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Israeli police shut hundreds of Palestinian businesses in the Muslim quarter of Jerusalem’s Old City Tuesday night hours before a general order from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for “a closure on, or to surround, centers of friction and incitement” went into effect.

Yet after the Palestinian stores were shuttered, police escorted more than 200 Israeli settlers through the Muslim quarter as they marched along the Via Dolorosa, the ancient road that Christians believe Jesus walked on the way to the crucifixion.

The settlers sang prayers to music played on a PA system strapped to a dolly. 

An Israeli tour group also sauntered freely throughout the Muslim Quarter, stopping to take photographs and regale in the city’s history.

Israeli settlers march through the Muslim quarter in Jerusalem's Old City, Tuesday night. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Israeli settlers march through the Muslim quarter in Jerusalem’s Old City, Tuesday night. (Photo: Allison Deger)

“The situation is they forced us. We don’t want to close,” Anwar Basti, 40, said earlier in the day as he served his last two customers, tourists, white wine before closing the front gate of his cafe inside a courtyard of an Armenian Church in Jerusalem’s Old City.

“The settlers can do anything,” said Habib, 52, an antiquities store owner whose shop is across the stone road.

“You know, if you want to walk on the way, you have to walk like this,” Habib’s son Jihad, 27, said, throwing his arms up behind his head.

By nightfall the Old City was virtually sealed off to Palestinians except those who reside there.

“Let’s just say it’s closed to only some,” observed a German tourist who looked on as police checked identity cards of Palestinians, and turned away many seeking passage. Hundreds of officers including undercover police roamed the streets.

In addition to the closures across Palestinian neighborhoods in East Jerusalem, Netanyahu also approved a series of punitive measures Tuesday that were commonplace during the second Intifada with the aim of deterring violence that has plagued Israelis and Palestinians for two weeks.

Since the beginning of the month Palestinians killed eight Israelis in stabbing attacks. In the same period of time Israeli forces killed more than 30 Palestinians, at least 13 suspected of attacking Israelis.

Three of the knifings were in the Old City within half a mile from Basti’s cafe.

Under the regulations if a Palestinian attacker attempts to stab an Israeli, his or her identity card will be revoked, banning him or her from legal presence in the city of Jerusalem and Israel, and denying access to government services. In effect, such a revocation is a deportation order for East Jerusalem Palestinian would-be attackers to relocate to the West Bank.

Netanyahu also said the family homes of attackers will be demolished and no new construction allowed on those sites.

“I cannot tell you how long this will continue,” Netanyahu told Israeli police on Wednesday, indicating that his strategy to return calm is to wait the clock out, rather than address root causes. He also justified the killing of Palestinian attackers, saying that such a policy deters others. 

“We do not know how many will commit suicide, but the number is not infinite, far from it. Therefore, in the past, we could also deal with these phenomena, even more difficult ones. At the moment, because it is not organized, as you know, so there is no substitute for your presence, essentially as human shields,” Netanyahu told police.

In the meantime, Netanyahu is bolstering security forces in a military-like deployment of reservists across Jerusalem and Israel with more than 2,300 reservists called up.

Yet Palestinian leaders say Netanyahu’s latest policies coupled with his repeated claims of “incitement” on the part of the Palestinian government to allegedly inspire the attacks are not directed at protecting Israel citizens.

Making his first address since the near-daily attacks began on October 1st, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas embraced the waves of protests across the West Bank, in which Israeli police have killed demonstrators as young as 13 with live-fire. He described the protests as “non-violent popular resistance”  in a “legitimate national struggle” and said he was pursuing action at the United Nations.   

“We are asking for our rights, justice and peace, we do not commit aggression on anyone and we do not accept aggression against our people, our nation and our holy places,” Abbas said. 

Since October 3rd, Israeli forces injured 4,393 Palestinians in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza strip during protests, more than 300 of them with live-fire, according to the Palestinian Red Crescent.

“We will not give up to the logic of brute force, policies of occupation and aggression practiced by the Israeli government and the herd of settlers who are engaged in terrorism against our people, our holy places, our homes, our trees and the shooting of our children in cold blood,” Abbas continued.

“What we have now is an announcement of collective punishment of Palestinians in East Jerusalem. Israel is not aiming at achieving security with this step, they are aiming at strengthening the status quo of our occupied capital,” said Xavier Abu Eid, a spokesperson for the PLO and an advisor to Secretary-General Saeb Erekat.

“They are trying to turn this political conflict into a religious conflict and that’s not good for us, but also for the whole region,” Abu Eid said.

In the days leading up to the closures in East Jerusalem, Palestinian in Jerusalem and the West Bank organized a two-day strike. Most schools either closed or went on limited hours. Universities organized buses to cart students to protests.

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  1. annie on October 15, 2015, 3:01 pm

    natenyahu closes east jerusalem to palestinians to make way for settlers. same as they do for al aqsa. and this isn’t inctement???

    • a blah chick on October 15, 2015, 3:42 pm

      It seems that one afternoon, before the start of some dinner he was hosting, he told the staff to pull back the awning on the patio. A while later Mrs Sara comes out and starts throwing a fit about the awning being pulled back. While in full rant the two beleaguered staff members look over at Netanyahu to see if he will come to their aid and tell drunk Sara that it was he who had the awning pulled back. No such luck, our lordship stays in his chair, sipping his drink and ignoring the whole brouhaha.

      That’s Netanyahu in a nut shell. He likes to portray himself as this big tough champion of the Jewish people, staring down the anti Semitic hordes at the UN, when in reality he is nothing but a moral and physical coward. All he wants is a nice, easy occupation, with “quiet,” settlement building and lawn mowing in Gaza every year or two. And anytime things get messy we see how weak and indecisive he is. I believe him when he says he wants to maintain the “status quo,” for that does not require him to do anything. But when things get troublesome then he starts hearing it from the right wing and in order to keep his position he feels he must give into their policies, even though it just causes more trouble. He has no core beliefs, other than staying in power.

      • weiss on October 16, 2015, 9:22 am

        Spot on!

        What drives Satanyahoo ?

        Eternal revenge for his brother Yonaten who was killed by Palestinian terrorists during the heroic raid on Entebbe in 1976.

        And no doubt he promised his revisionist Zionist father on his deathbed that NO Palestinian state would be created on his watch.

        Now it all begins to make sense…

      • tokyobk on October 16, 2015, 7:41 pm


        Netanyahu sees himself as a historic figure a warrior-philosopher-king, saviour of the Jews. All options are on the table for him, no matter how barbaric they are from a human rights perspective. He has no second thoughts or reservations. Its how much he can get away with. I fear the worst from him.

  2. Abierno on October 15, 2015, 3:24 pm

    Is this where East Jerusalem becomes Hebron? Where Al Aksa moves to a situation similar to the Cave of the Patriarchs?

  3. eljay on October 15, 2015, 3:31 pm

    It’s not enough for Zio-supremacists to engage in acts of injustice and immoralit – to exercise their brand of supremacism – within the Partition borders of their “Jewish State”.

    Like so much gasoline with which to destroy a body, they have to shove it down the throats of the people living under Israeli military occupation in Palestine and in the Free City of Jerusalem.

    Zio-supremacists are truly hateful and immoral people.

    • cs80 on October 16, 2015, 3:32 pm

      What acts of ‘immorality’ are you referring to?

      • eljay on October 16, 2015, 6:17 pm

        || cs80: What acts of ‘immorality’ are you referring to? ||

        All of them.

    • cs80 on October 19, 2015, 1:23 pm

      “All of them.”
      My point is why are you using the term immoral? Use that term within your own culture, it becomes meaningless when you apply it to another. Your answer of ‘all of them’ says nothing to me, are you including alcohol use, financing with interest and blaspheming the prophet?

      • Mooser on October 19, 2015, 1:31 pm

        “Use that term within your own culture, it becomes meaningless when you apply it to another.”

        If only the Nazis could have explained it that succinctly! All we did was condemn them, instead of simply saying, “well, that’s their morality, who are we to criticize”!

      • eljay on October 19, 2015, 1:48 pm

        || cs80: My point … ||

        You didn’t make a point – you asked a question.

        || … is why are you using the term immoral? … ||

        Because Zio-supremacists do immoral (and unjust) things.

        || … Use that term within your own culture, it becomes meaningless when you apply it to another. … ||

        Are you saying that terrorism, ethnic cleansing, theft, occupation, colonization, destruction, torture and murder are moral in your culture?

        If ‘yes’, are you saying that you would accept others doing all or any of these things to you?

  4. ckg on October 15, 2015, 4:11 pm

    [Netanyahu] also justified the killing of Palestinian attackers, saying that such a policy deters others.

    That’s quite an admission. It’s a public admission of a policy of extrajudicial killing. Is there an exact quote for this? I bet the ICC prosecutor would be interested to know.

  5. MaxNarr on October 15, 2015, 6:10 pm

    How are they settlers in their own capital?

    • annie on October 15, 2015, 6:21 pm

      jerusalem was illegally annexed. only israel recognizes jerusalem as israel’s capitol. that’s why there are no foreign embassies there.

      and the region of palestine was already inhabited when zionists arrived. the term “settler” is a fabrication for the purpose of propaganda. they are straight up colonialists and jerusalem is not “their own”. it belongs to another people.

      • cs80 on October 16, 2015, 3:14 pm

        By what standard does it belong to another people? Trace for me the history of Jerusalem.

      • eljay on October 16, 2015, 6:20 pm

        || cs80: By what standard does it belong to another people? Trace for me the history of Jerusalem. ||

        History: Before Zio-supremacists occupied and colonized it, Jerusalem belonged to its inhabitants. It is the city of those inhabitants and their descendants, not the city of Zio-supremacist colonialists.

      • cs80 on October 19, 2015, 1:29 pm

        “History: Before Zio-supremacists occupied and colonized it, Jerusalem belonged to its inhabitants. It is the city of those inhabitants and their descendants, not the city of Zio-supremacist colonialists.”

        How far back in this history have you considered? Which conquest was the last ‘legitimate’ one in your eyes?

      • talknic on October 20, 2015, 1:58 am

        @ s80 October 16, 2015, 3:14 pm

        “By what standard does it belong to another people?”

        International Law, the UN Charter, relevant conventions. Try reading UNSC res 476 It’s very simple, short and based on the laws Israel obliged itself to adhere to.

        It reaffirms :

        “the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem

        “Trace for me the history of Jerusalem”

        Israel didn’t exist as a modern state until 1948. Jerusalem wasn’t within Israel’s self proclaimed borders and has never been recognized as Israeli

        “How far back in this history have you considered?”

        Since Israel proclaimed its borders effective at 00:01 May 15th 1948 (ME time)

        “Which conquest was the last ‘legitimate’ one in your eyes?”

        Under current law, none! The acquisition of territory by any coercive measure was outlawed in 1933.

    • diasp0ra on October 15, 2015, 6:45 pm

      They are settlers, or colonists to be more accurate, because they reside in a city that has been illegally annexed by Israel and nobody accepts East Jerusalem as part of Israel. It is always referred to as occupied territory, and as much as Israelis try and separate it, it is still part of the West Bank.

    • eljay on October 15, 2015, 8:38 pm

      || MaxNarr: How are they settlers in their own capital? ||

      It’s not their capital – it’s a Free City under Israeli military occupation. But you knew that.

      • cs80 on October 16, 2015, 3:34 pm

        No, he knew that you call it that.

      • eljay on October 16, 2015, 6:18 pm

        || cs80: No, he knew that you call it that. ||

        I’m glad you agree.

    • Bubba on October 15, 2015, 9:33 pm

      Simple — it is captured/occupied land. This is an attempt at an illegal annexation or a land grab by a conquering army (1967 War). Hitler and his Japanese Allies were the last to attempt that criminal act. At least Putin claimed Nikita gave the Crimea away without permission and he took it back.

      • oldgeezer on October 15, 2015, 10:40 pm


        Hussein was actually the last to attempt an illegal land grab. Maybe putin but some facts are still murky.

        Isrape should have been given the same demand hussein was with all options on the table if they failed to comply. We all know why they were allowed to hold to a DoubleStandard.

      • RoHa on October 16, 2015, 1:45 am

        Putin also claimed that the Crimeans wanted to to get out of Ukraine and into Russia. A bunch of other Ukrainians are fighting hard to not be part of Ukraine, but Putin has, so far, not accepted their bit into Russia.

      • Leahj on October 16, 2015, 3:14 am

        ” At least Putin claimed Nikita gave the Crimea away without permission and he took it back ”

        A couple of thoughts come to mind. First, Crimea held a referendum, in which 97% of the citizens voted to leave Ukraine & join Russia. They then declared their independence, in the spirit of self-determination, & requested to join the Russian Federation. This should not have surprised anyone. Year after year, in poll after poll, the vast majority of Crimeans said they wanted to secede from Ukraine. And in the last census, 84% of Crimeans listed Russian as their native language. Only 3% listed Ukrainian. Most of the people living there are ethnic Russians, not Ukrainians.

        Another difference is that the US, & its allies, have punished Russia (& Crimea) with harmful economic sanctions. To my knowledge, no sanctions have been levied on Israel.

      • pjdude on October 16, 2015, 11:08 am


        you mean the referendum held while russian troops were occupying the area?

      • Sibiriak on October 16, 2015, 12:09 pm

        pjdude: you mean the referendum held while russian troops were occupying the area


        Right, the Russian troops that were welcomed with joy by the vast majority of Crimeans. I was just in Crimea in September– the place was thriving, filled to the brim with tourists, confident and hopeful–in stark contrast to the horror show going on in Ukraine.

        The Crimeans realize damn well how lucky they were to get out while they could. You’d be hard pressed to find another place on earth where the elected national leader is so popular. Sure, not everyone loves Putin. Some Tatars are instinctively nervous about Russian rule. But Putin’s support is overwhelming.

        Along the main highways you see billboards with Putin’s picture and the slogan “Crimea–Russia–Forever”. I’m quite certain that no less that 80%of the population–probably more– agree with that perfectly reasonable sentiment.

        My personal impressions, of course, have no evidentiary value. More compelling is this report from the decidedly pro-Western Forbes magazine:

        One Year After Russia Annexed Crimea, Locals Prefer Moscow To Kiev

        The U.S and European Union may want to save Crimeans from themselves. But the Crimeans are happy right where they are.

        One year after the annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula in the Black Sea, poll after poll shows that the locals there — be they Ukrainians, ethnic Russians or Tatars are mostly all in agreement: life with Russia is better than life with Ukraine.

        Little has changed over the last 12 months. Despite huge efforts on the part of Kiev, Brussels, Washington and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the bulk of humanity living on the Black Sea peninsula believe the referendum to secede from Ukraine was legit. At some point, the West will have to recognize Crimea’s right to self rule. Unless we are all to believe that the locals polled by Gallup and GfK were done so with FSB bogey men standing by with guns in their hands.

        In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.

        In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn’t know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.

        With two studies out of the way, both Western-based, it seems without question that the vast majority of Crimeans do not feel they were duped into voting for annexation, and that life with Russia will be better for them and their families than life with Ukraine. […] (emphasis added).

  6. Palikari on October 15, 2015, 6:42 pm

    The so called “settlers” don’t stab innocent civilians.

    • annie on October 15, 2015, 7:32 pm

      oh please. that’s the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard.

    • Mooser on October 15, 2015, 7:45 pm

      Palikari, I have a plan! Why don’t we take up a collection, and buy fedoras, and black overcoats, and a whole lot of false hair, and turn the entire IDF and Israeli security forces and settlers into civilian Rabbis? You know, punching and stabbing Rabbis is a very distressing sight!

      • Leahj on October 16, 2015, 6:49 am

        Mooser, What an interesting mind you have! :-)

      • Mooser on October 16, 2015, 12:42 pm

        “Mooser, What an interesting mind you have! :-)”

        Why, thank you! My mind,(even if I say it, who shouldn’t) is such a fine mind, which keeps me searching for a heart of gold. And I’m growing old, and more and more original.

        (Actually my mind is pretty common-place. I still wince when I see those photos, like anybody else would.)

    • Kris on October 15, 2015, 8:14 pm

      @Palikari: “The so called “settlers” don’t stab innocent civilians.”

      Why should these Zionist Jews stab innocent Palestinians when it’s easier to burn them up alive? And when they don’t feel like burning up Palestinian families who are asleep, the Zionist Jews direct the IDF to fire bullets or rockets or tear gas cannisters at unarmed Palestinians.

      The Zionist Jews also utilize hit-and-run car attacks on Palestinian children. They also attack Palestinian women and children with their fists. With so many other ways to hurt Palestinians, why would they use knives?

      You can easily google for news accounts of all of these methods of attack that are so popular with the Jewish “settler” community.

      Strange that there are so many “knife” attacks, though. It reminds me of how many black people in this country are gunned down by police who claim they had guns. Only they didn’t. Almost as if our police were getting trained by Israel. Oh, wait, they are.

      • oldgeezer on October 15, 2015, 8:27 pm


        You left out the fact that they do shoot innocent Palestinians. Using a knife is just silly when you have more efficient weqpon.

      • Kris on October 15, 2015, 10:30 pm

        You’re right, oldgeezer.

        The Jewish IDF shoots Palestinians:

        Abdel Rahman Abdullah, 13, was hit in the chest by gunfire during a clash between protesters and Israeli security forces in the Aida refugee camp, Palestinian medical sources said. He died in the hospital shortly afterward, and was laid to rest on Tuesday.

        The army said Tuesday that the soldier had intended to shoot a protester who was leading the riot and was standing next to Rahman Abdullah, Channel 2 reported.

        The Jewish thieves shoot Palestinians:

        In the scenes that follow, several of the Jewish settlers armed with M4 rifles – one wearing what appears to be a police cap – point their guns at the group of Palestinian men and open fire. The Israeli soldiers present appear to do nothing to stop them from shooting.

        And the Jewish IDF assists while the Jewish thieves shoot Palestinians:

        The essential mission of Israeli soldiers stationed in the West Bank is to protect settlers against Palestinians. The job of protecting Palestinians against settlers falls to a separate Israeli police force that, as it happens, is massively understaffed. This imbalance–ample troops who are de facto allies of the settlers, dinky police force that could in theory help Palestinians but never seems to be around–is a recipe for the harassment of Palestinians and worse.

        This helps explain why settlers have repeatedly, with their impunity all but guaranteed, burned or cut down the olive trees of Palestinian farmers. And it helps explain why some settlers apparently feel comfortable shooting at Palestinians while Israeli soldiers are a few feet away. All of this notwithstanding the fact that the settlers live in the West Bank in violation of international law, whereas the Palestinians are there lawfully.

        And here’s a video of 13-year-old Ahmad Saleh Manasra, who was shot by the IDF, and tormented by Israeli Jews as he lay bleeding on the ground.

        The good news is that the boy may not be dead. Yet. .

      • cs80 on October 16, 2015, 3:27 pm

        So you don’t believe that there are many knife attacks? How could such a peaceful people try and kill civilians so barbarically? It is perplexing, I agree with you on that much.

      • annie on October 16, 2015, 7:56 pm

        So you don’t believe that there are many knife attacks? How could such a peaceful people try and kill civilians so barbarically?

        about 5 times more palestinians have been murdered this month than israelis, and hundreds more wounded. did you see the video of extremists hunting down palestinians on the streets of jerusalem. try the jdl paris twitter feed for photos. what does it say about israelis they’ve killed so many more than vice versa? wrt “barbaric”, a knife is not more barbaric than shooting someone thru the heart or the head. it’s not more barbaric than killing a pregnant woman in her bed while she sleeps. plus, it’s probably not a weapon of choice.

      • cs80 on October 19, 2015, 1:36 pm

        Kris, it is clear to me which party is the aggressor in this violence. Israel as the powerful and advanced government has the responsibility of enforcing security and by that designation has to deal with all of the violence. Where is the violence coming from? The outrage over filthy feet polluting Muslim holy sites? Is it worth it? And would you rather that the Palestinians have the responsibility of enforcing security? They are not doing so well with that in Gaza where they were handed the Keys to self govern are they? You can try and spin it how you will but the whole world knows what is what.

    • eljay on October 15, 2015, 8:40 pm

      || Palikari: The so called “settlers” don’t stab innocent civilians. ||

      Right, and the husbands of battered wives have never laid a finger on them. They got those bruises and broken bones through clumsiness.

    • Bubba on October 15, 2015, 9:38 pm

      You are right Palikari — They (“settlers”) just burn them alive. Mother, father and infant while sleeping in the middle of the night.

      • cs80 on October 16, 2015, 3:28 pm

        How many settlers?

      • Mooser on October 16, 2015, 4:21 pm

        “How many settlers?”

        “cs80” you don’t want to go wrong at this point. This is where you start saying that those arsonists are just a few bad apples, and the rest are “normal” settlers. Or better still, say they are not there to hurt Palestinians, but take advantage of cheap housing and other breaks offered by the GOI. That’ll show ’em! Settlers are regular people! Oh, except for a few bad apples. Maybe we can blame them on the Orthodox.

      • eljay on October 16, 2015, 6:27 pm

        || Mooser: “cs80” you don’t want to go wrong at this point. … ||

        He seems to be very new at this. Give him time and, one day soon, he’ll be as convincing as ivri…or maybe even JeffB!

        But no-one will ever be as good as the Potato-man. I miss him… :-(

      • cs80 on October 19, 2015, 1:39 pm

        So you don’t want to talk numbers, point taken.

    • bryan on October 16, 2015, 2:51 am

      Palikara – even long-term settlers within the borders of Israel stab civilians. You need to read more impartial news sources. The Guardian today covers the Israeli Jew who was stabbed in a supermarket by another Jew who exclaimed “You deserve it, you deserve it. You are bastard Arabs.” A week ago a Jew in Dimona stabbed four Palestinian Arabs. Last Thursday “an Israeli citizen of Kalansua, was beaten and chased by about 30 Jewish men in the coastal city of Netanya….. A Jewish Israeli, Mimon Himy, threw himself on Jamal to protect him from the mob and said he believes the man would have died had he not intervened.” (see

      You need to withdraw your comment and apologize for its absurdity. Are you just some mindless troll deliberately lieing to the readership of this site – or are you just utterly misinformed: in which case I suggest you delay commenting until you have something useful and honest to offer.

      There is of course a difference – according to Israelis – between the violence committed by two communities. The Palestinian stabbers are easily incited and consumed by hatred (not victims of a brutal occupation); the Jewish stabbers are on a much higher moral plane (and are not accomplices in a brutal oppression). A police spokesman claimed one Jewish attacker was simply attempting to “avenge a recent wave of attacks on Jews”. This is the old story that every evil committed by Jewish colonists since they first attempted to conquer the Palestinian homeland and drive out its indigenous population is simply reactive to provocations by the other side. If that fails then madness will account for Israeli Jewish violence (see Reuben’s claim that Israel is a sick society): courts in two of the Jewish vigilante attacks have accepted pleas that the perpetrators have psychological problems and should receive psychological examinations to see if they are fit to stand trial. This may well perpetuate the situation where there is no judicial accountability for Jewish Israeli crimes. Note that the Jewish attackers, far from being executed by police, and having their family homes demolished as a reprisal for their terrorism, are treated with kid gloves by the authorities.

      And possibly the mob violence (in one case quoted, and more generally in the rampages occurring every night in Jerusalem) is a more serious social problem than the more generally “lone wolf” attacks perpetrated by some Palestinians and often in revenge for Israeli atrocities. Closure to Palestinians of areas of East Jerusalem is not going to help – and will clearly exacerbate – this massive problem.

    • pjdude on October 16, 2015, 11:08 am

      they just shoot them or run them over or have their jack booted thug army do it

      • cs80 on October 16, 2015, 3:36 pm

        They condemn every act of violence committed against Palestinian civilians. Terrorism is not their tactic.

      • diasp0ra on October 16, 2015, 5:11 pm


        Terrorism is their bread and butter. It’s literally how Israel was born, why the ring leaders of Zionist terrorist groups became ministers and prime ministers, why a terrorist like Avraham Stern has a whole town named after him etc etc.

        What do you call the burning of a child? What do you call the countless olive trees burnt to chase away the natives? How can people who claim connection to the land burn thousands of olive trees hundreds -and some more- of years old?

        Give me a break.

        Israel would not exist without terrorism. You can try and act civilized and condemn all you want, but Israelis live in their houses because millions live in refugee camps. Because millions live under occupation. This scarring of an entire people and the attempt to wipe them out from history is more terrorism than you could possibly comprehend. So spare us your charade, nobody is buying it here.

      • Kay24 on October 16, 2015, 5:34 pm

        Diaspora, perhaps cs80 mistakenly thinks that occupiers calling themselves a “democracy” is exempt from the “terrorist” label. The violence they resort to, is simply labeled “defending themselves”. It is a nice way to justify what they are doing.

      • eljay on October 16, 2015, 6:25 pm

        || cs80: They condemn every act of violence committed against Palestinian civilians. … ||

        Okay, so as long as the Palestinians condemn every act of violence committed against Israelis, you’re good with them killing as many as they like. Got it.

        || … Terrorism is not their tactic. ||

        Sure it is. Zio-supremacists have been terrorizing (and oppressing, torturing and killing) Palestinians for decades and they show no sign of wanting to stop.

    • talknic on October 20, 2015, 2:03 am

      @ Palikari October 15, 2015, 6:42 pm

      “The so called “settlers” don’t stab innocent civilians”

      They shoot and burn ’em

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