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The Washington Post and New York Times both have reports on the Israeli Prime Minister’s fence-mending trip to Washington this week that make it clear that the Obama administration will be bending over backwards not to offend Israel any more than it did already with its Iran deal, including paying off Democratic supporters of the deal with more aid to Israel. The only good news is that the U.S. is not likely to accept Israel’s extortionate demand of $50 billion in the next ten years, up from $30 billion, “to maintain Israel’s comparative advantage,” as PM Netanyahu put it to his cabinet this morning.

The Israel lobby has solidified around the importance of trying to put any differences with Netanyahu in the past; and the Democratic establishment (Hillary Clinton and the Center for American Progress) is going along with this program. “Democrats are scrambling to get back in Netanyahu’s good graces after their shameful ‘anti-Zionist’ support of the Iran deal,” says Ilene Cohen. “They are in denial that Netanyahu has thrown them under the bus and that they’re dead meat to him. Even I was shocked that the Israeli embassy didn’t invite them to its New Year’s party.”

So the coalition that helped Obama win the Iran deal inside the Beltway is getting nothing. Netanyahu will not be punished for trying to destroy the deal. Americans for Peace Now wants the administration to hand off peace negotiations to Europe; but no, the Obama administration will maintain the charade that it is working for Palestinian freedom.

Read over this conference call that high Obama aides had with the press Friday in preparation for tomorrow’s meeting of the president and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu; and you will see that the administration cannot even talk about the occupation. It will only issue bromides about the two-state solution in the distant future and “settlement building” — as if this even touches on the apartheid conditions Palestinians experience.

As you read these excerpts, reflect that Israeli forces just killed a 72-year-old woman deep in the occupied West Bank– 27 years after Israeli forces killed her husband in the occupied West Bank. Husband and wife were killed by occupying forces on lands that were supposed to be a Palestinian state. The occupation is permanent and it is the Palestinian condition. And it is why such a broad coalition of Palestinian groups support Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, which the Obama administration pledges to oppose.

The U.S. is on the same page with Netanyahu himself, who today announced the goal was “stabilizing” the Palestinian situation. That’s a policy of conflict management, which deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes endorses, citing the U.S.’s “unprecedented level of security cooperation” in light of “Israel’s very dangerous neighborhood.”

Though US ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro says the US needs to try to reinstill hope in Palestinians so they stop revolting:

[We need to] generate some direction and progress and hope… to reinforce that pathway toward a two-state solution even if negotiations will have to wait for some later period.  So that’s a discussion I expect the President and the Prime Minister to engage in — what steps everybody can contribute to providing that atmosphere, obviously reducing the tensions and the violence that has been going on, and maintaining the viability of the two-state solution for the future.

Rob Malley, an NSC aide, said nothing will happen in the rest of the Obama term, not even negotiations– but Palestinians should accept this suspended reality, in which they can’t even dream about having rights:

there will not be a comprehensive final status agreement in the remainder of his term, and there likely may not even be meaningful negotiations between the two sides — given that reality, which is a new one, how does the Prime Minister himself see Israel going forward, given its own interests in stabilizing the situation in preventing the emergence of a one-state solution.  So what ideas is he going to be putting through to the President so they can discuss what can be done in the absence of negotiations between the parties to help stabilize the situation on the ground and to signal — both Palestinians and Israelis to signal that they are still committed to and moving towards a two-state solution even if they’re not in a position today to talk to one another about it.

Rhodes pledged to fight BDS:

I’d also add on the specific question of delegitimization that you referenced in Secretary Clinton’s comments — this administration has repeatedly stood up against the delegitimization of Israel… we’ve continued to stand up against efforts to delegitimize Israel, including through BDS.

Rhodes said that he was all for Netanyahu speaking at the Democratic party’s thinktank the Center for American Progress, even after he tried to submarine the Iran deal:

[O]ne point that we made over the course of the last year is that it’s incredibly important to recognize that part of the strength of the U.S.-Israel relationship over the years has been that it’s completely bipartisan here in the United States.  Republicans and Democrats have been united in their support for Israel and its security.  So we do think it’s certainly a positive and constructive step for the Prime Minister to be speaking to Republicans and Democrats, to be speaking at AEI but also at the Center for American Progress.

There was a lot more blather about the peace process. Rhodes said we’ve tried anything:

[C]learly, part of our assessment has been that we don’t see a clear pathway right now to the type of negotiations that could produce a two-state solution, as much as we would like that to be the case.

We’ve tried many different approaches over the course of the administration — direct negotiations, indirect negotiations, the U.S. putting out some principles.  And again, at each juncture, ultimately the parties themselves did not take the sufficient steps forward to reach a negotiated two-state solution.

But the Palestinians are supposed to buy “confidence-building measures,” Rhodes said.

Given the current context in which tensions have been very high, I think what we’ll be looking for in the immediate term is what type of confidence-building measures can be pursued to build some trust back to reduce the tensions and to leave open the promise of a two-state solution.  Because ultimately, Israelis and Palestinians need to believe that two states for two peoples is possible as part of a means of ensuring that you don’t have continued tension.

And frankly, there are practical things that can be done on the ground to build back some degree of trust and cooperation between the two sides.

Malley was at least honest about the abject policy failure:

This is really the first time since the first term of the Clinton administration where we have an administration that faces a reality where the prospect of a negotiated two-state solution is not in the cards for the remainder — in the time that’s remaining.  That was not the case until now.

And the administration continues to “reassess” things.

So don’t expect sort of a big announcement that the reassessment is over.  We are reassessing given the fact that the landscape is different, and that we’ve reached that conclusion.

Rhodes kept talking about “security and dignity.” Dignity being the euphemism for the right not to have your children shot for throwing rocks, the right to vote for the government that controls your life.

the fact that we have the realistic assessment that we’re not looking at a very near-term conclusion of negotiations toward the two-state solution in no way diminishes our very fervent belief that a two-state solution is the one way to achieve the lasting peace, security and dignity that the Israeli and Palestinian people deserve.

So: expect nothing from the press availability tomorrow by the US president but the repetition of these empty words. Obama may tense his jaw as Netanyahu talks about ISIS and demands more aid, but that’s about all we’re likely to see. The Jewish establishment will be celebrating a right wing fascistic prime minister’s return to political grace. And a few hundred demonstrators will stand in for the American people’s rage and impatience with the special relationship.

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  1. Blownaway
    November 8, 2015, 1:57 pm

    Increasingly the US has sacrificed its prestige and standing for the benefit of Israel. In all spheres the US is largely becoming irrelevant replaced by Russia and China. BDS is a grass roots effort and no amount of government legislation or interference can make me buy the occupation not here not inEurope. But it is no longer in support of two states but fairness in one. The global beacon of democracy will be naked in support of apartheid

  2. ivri
    November 8, 2015, 2:07 pm

    Indeed, Obama planned to put Israel high on his agenda in the last 2 years portion of his incumbency but 3 things changed that.
    The dramatic worsening of the situation in Syria where he kind of acknowledges that his inaction was a part cause for that – with that his political standing and capital were not enough for such a demanding venture.
    The Iran deal: that`s a big project on its own, which of course involves Israel, and you cannot add another big dish to an already full plate.
    The loss of majority in both Senate and House in the last election weakened his political hand.

    • ckg
      November 8, 2015, 5:14 pm

      I think Hillary may have just told him to back off. She needs the cash.

      • Boomer
        November 8, 2015, 5:21 pm

        re: “. . . Hillary may have just told him to back off. She needs the cash.”

        Yes, but let’s not forget that there is more at state, even than Mrs. Clinton’s desires and interests. Paul Pillar observes:

        “The public statements that actually will come out of the meetings probably will sound much more kumbaya-like than that. Netanyahu has a strong interest in making it appear that, despite all the attempted sabotage of U.S. policy and the pokes in U.S. eyes, his government is in good graces in Washington. We all are familiar with the realities of U.S. politics that lead players in the United States to go along with him in maintaining such an appearance. With this month’s visit even a paragon of the liberal establishment such as the Center for American Progress is welcoming Netanyahu into its spaces, despite all his blatant interference in U.S. politics in a direction opposed to what CAP stands for. That decision probably has mostly to do with how Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign sees its near-term interests. But that is distinctly different from the interests of the United States—and even, over the long term and looking beyond the current government, the interests of Israel.”

      • kalithea
        November 8, 2015, 11:32 pm

        Two obvious reasons Netanyahu is warming up to Obama and Democrats again:

        1. $$$$billions
        2. He suspects Hillary’s gonna win and needs her all in on Zionism. No problem there, but since he’s in power for a while he’s playing it safe ensuring the love’s still strong. And of course he’ll make sure she’s well-funded by Zionist organizations along with the candidate on the Republican side who stands a chance at the nomination. Zionists cover both sides well.

        All proving–money talks.

    • WH
      November 8, 2015, 5:22 pm

      His inaction wasn’t the problem, giving arms to jihadists was the problem.

  3. ckg
    November 8, 2015, 2:10 pm

    Excellent post, Phil. You’re at your journalistic best when you put aside optimism and see the situation in cold, hard reality.

  4. Kay24
    November 8, 2015, 2:29 pm

    Obama has let the occupied people of Palestine down, refused to hold Israel accountable, and even takes the disrespect and insults.

    Will be increase the aid to the zionists before his term is over? An interesting explanation for all the aid we tax payers are forced to shovel out to a rogue nation:

    “U.S. Aid to Israel: Interpreting the ‘Strategic Relationship”‘

    by Stephen Zunes

    “The U.S. aid relationship with Israel is unlike any other in the world,” said Stephen Zunes during a January 26 CPAP presentation. “In sheer volume, the amount is the most generous foreign aid program ever between any two countries,” added Zunes, associate professor of Politics and chair of the Peace and Justice Studies Program at the University of San Francisco.

    He explored the strategic reasoning behind the aid, asserting that it parallels the “needs of American arms exporters” and the role “Israel could play in advancing U.S. strategic interests in the region.”

    Although Israel is an “advanced, industrialized, technologically sophisticated country,” it “receives more U.S. aid per capita annually than the total annual [Gross Domestic Product] per capita of several Arab states.” Approximately a third of the entire U.S. foreign aid budget goes to Israel, “even though Israel comprises just…one-thousandth of the world’s total population, and already has one of the world’s higher per capita incomes.”

    U.S. government officials argue that this money is necessary for “moral” reasons-some even say that Israel is a “democracy battling for its very survival.” If that were the real reason, however, aid should have been highest during Israel’s early years, and would have declined as Israel grew stronger. Yet “the pattern…has been just the opposite.” According to Zunes, “99 percent of all U.S. aid to Israel took place after the June 1967 war, when Israel found itself more powerful than any combination of Arab armies….”

    The U.S. supports Israel’s dominance so it can serve as “a surrogate for American interests in this vital strategic region.” “Israel has helped defeat radical nationalist movements” and has been a “testing ground for U.S. made weaponry.” Moreover, the intelligence agencies of both countries have “collaborated,” and “Israel has funneled U.S. arms to third countries that the U.S. [could] not send arms to directly,…Iike South Africa, like the Contras, Guatemala under the military junta, [and] Iran.” Zunes cited an Israeli analyst who said: “‘It’s like Israel has just become another federal agency when it’s convenient to use and you want something done quietly.”‘ Although the strategic relationship between the United States and the Gulf Arab states in the region has been strengthening in recent years, these states “do not have the political stability, the technological sophistication, [or] the number of higher-trained armed forces personnel” as does Israel.

    Matti Peled, former Israeli major general and Knesset member, told Zunes that he and most Israeli generals believe this aid is “little more than an American subsidy to U.S. arms manufacturers,” considering that the majority of military aid to Israel is used to buy weapons from the U.S. Moreover, arms to Israel create more demand for weaponry in Arab states. According to Zunes, “the Israelis announced back in 1991 that they supported the idea of a freeze in Middle East arms transfers, yet it was the United States that rejected it.”

    In the fall of 1993-when many had high hopes for peace-78 senators wrote to former President Bill Clinton insisting that aid to Israel remain “at current levels.” Their “only reason” was the “massive procurement of sophisticated arms by Arab states.” The letter neglected to mention that 80 percent of those arms to Arab countries came from the U.S. “I’m not denying for a moment the power of AIPAC [the American Israel Public Affairs Committee], the pro-Israel lobby,” and other similar groups, Zunes said. Yet the “Aerospace Industry Association which promotes these massive arms shipments…is even more influential.” This association has given two times more money to campaigns than all of the pro-Israel groups combined. Its “force on Capitol Hill, in terms of lobbying, surpasses that of even AIPAC.” Zunes asserted that the “general thrust of U.S. policy would be pretty much the same even if AIPAC didn’t exist. We didn’t need a pro-Indonesia lobby to support Indonesia in its savage repression of East Timor all these years.” This is a complex issue, and Zunes said that he did not want to be “conspiratorial,” but he asked the audience to imagine what “Palestinian industriousness, Israeli technology, and Arabian oil money…would do to transform the Middle East…. [W]hat would that mean to American arms manufacturers? Oil companies? Pentagon planners?”

    “An increasing number of Israelis are pointing out” that these funds are not in Israel’s best interest. Quoting Peled, Zunes said, “this aid pushes Israel ‘toward a posture of callous intransigence’ in terms of the peace process.” Moreover, for every dollar the U.S. sends in arms aid, Israel must spend two to three dollars to train people to use the weaponry, to buy parts, and in other ways make use of the aid. Even “main-stream Israeli economists are saying [it] is very harmful to the country’s future.
    The Israeli paper Yediot Aharonot described Israel as “‘the godfather’s messenger’ since [Israel] undertake[s] the ‘dirty work’ of a godfather who ‘always tries to appear to be the owner of some large, respectable business.”‘ Israeli satirist B. Michael refers to U.S. aid this way: “‘My master gives me food to eat and I bite those whom he tells me to bite. It’s called strategic cooperation.” ‘To challenge this strategic relationship, one cannot focus solely on the Israeli lobby but must also examine these “broader forces as well.” “Until we tackle this issue head-on,” it will be “very difficult to win” in other areas relating to Palestine.

    “The results” of the short-term thinking behind U.S. policy “are tragic,” not just for the “immediate victims” but “eventually [for] Israel itself” and “American interests in the region.” The U.S. is sending enormous amounts of aid to the Middle East, and yet “we are less secure than ever”-both in terms of U.S. interests abroad and for individual Americans. Zunes referred to a “growing and increasing hostility [of] the average Arab toward the United States.” In the long term, said Zunes, “peace and stability and cooperation with the vast Arab world is far more important for U.S. interests than this alliance with Israel.”

    This is not only an issue for those who are working for Palestinian rights, but it also “jeopardizes the entire agenda of those of us concerned about human rights, concerned about arms control, concerned about international law.” Zunes sees significant potential in “building a broad-based movement around it.”

    The above text is based on remarks, delivered on. 26 January, 2001 by Stephen Zunes – Associate Professor of Politics and Chair of the Peace and Justice Studies Program at San Francisco University. ❑

    • David Nelson
      David Nelson
      November 8, 2015, 2:56 pm

      Thank you Kay24. BDS and the rest of us are focused on the shadow on the ground, unaware or indifferent to the ball flying high above our heads. Sooner or later more people will have to begin contemplating the existence of the sun.

      A note to Israel and the KSA, imperial US never actually depends on any of its “allies” for nourishment, it may smilingly chew on the cuisine, but will always spit it out in the end.

    • inbound39
      November 8, 2015, 4:37 pm

      If American Politicians think what they are doing is going to placate the Palestinians they need to look at it from the Palestinian point of view for a change and ask themselves if they would do nothing to oppose Israel. Their answer would be a resounding no. They would oppose the occupation by any means just as the Palestinians are. Israel and America have made themselves enemies of the Palestinian People and the wider Arab world. Mess with Al Aqsa and you immediately call to arms a Billion strong Arab Opposition Force. If Israel and America think current Palestinian actions are bad they need to consider the following. Their actions have created the current Palestinian violent opposition. This currently is just a ripple on the surface of what is to come. No amount of money or weaponry from America will save Israel. Israel has guaranteed that at some point it will be inundated with a flood of Arab People incensed by its arrogance and violent aggression. What Israel has been putting out it is bound to recieve it back four fold. Nature says it is unavoidable. Historically, any city or area named Israel has never lasted. Their arrogance has always been their downfall and it is happening before our eyes once more.

      • JWalters
        November 8, 2015, 7:55 pm

        Believing you’re God’s special people is not a recipe for getting along well with others.

    • Citizen
      November 8, 2015, 5:21 pm

      RE: “…“peace and stability and cooperation with the vast Arab world is far more important for U.S. interests than this alliance with Israel.”

      That’s what the entire State Department & Diplomatic Corps told Truman, then running a totally hopeless campaign to extend his POTUS career. The Zionists paid for his Whistle Stop Campaign & goosed the NY Jewish press to extol his virtues, and no Zionist money went to the sure-fire winner, Dewey. Truman left State & Diplomats in the lurch, signed the letter supporting the new state of Israel almost as soon as it was announced by the Zionists. (He did delete the adjective “Jewish” as descriptor of “the State Of Israel.” And, in his diary he fumed against the Jews for behaving just like any other unterhunds who became uberhunds throughout history.)

      • JWalters
        November 8, 2015, 8:01 pm

        That’s not part of Israel’s official fairy tale. Like a great many facts. A huge number, in fact.

      • Sibiriak
        November 8, 2015, 8:48 pm

        Citizen: RE: “…“peace and stability and cooperation with the vast Arab world is far more important for U.S. interests than this alliance with Israel.”

        That’s what the entire State Department & Diplomatic Corps told Truman


        The same corporate-power-beholden, elitist, Cold-War-obsessed imperial State Department that would soon go about fomenting anti-democratic coups in Iran, Guatemala, the Congo etc. , supporting horrific right-wing dictatorships and crushing popular nationalist, anti-colonialist movements around the world, backing the French in Vietnam and taking over that war that would kill millions–all in the name of “U.S. interests”. Allen Dulles, John Foster Dulles, Kermit Roosevelt– names ring a bell?

        And which, btw, got it basically wrong about the Arab states continuing Western oil concessions etc., and which would soon become big backers of Israel, in the “U.S. interest”.

      • ivri
        November 9, 2015, 1:47 am

        But that`s a common error: it is not about Jews versus Arabs – that has been a misrepresentation all along. Already now, barely 2-3 generations after the big drama of it`s entering a fairly homogeneous region Israel has developed meaningful links with Arabs around. Egypt, Saudi-Arabia, the Gulf emirates are getting close within a new political-security configuration in the region.
        Jordan in particular is tied to Israel in meaningful ways, which has the extra importance of setting a base for a REALISTIC long-term solution to the conflict: 2 states (Israel and Jordan) for 3 nations (Bedouins, Jews, Palestinians).

    • kalithea
      November 8, 2015, 11:18 pm

      Its force on Capitol Hill, in terms of lobbying, surpasses that of even AIPAC.

      Perhaps in terms of arms treaties and trade deals and treaties since the U.S. is the biggest weapons exporter in the world, but as far as the Palestinians, Iran and a lot of foreign policy issues relating to the Middle East, AIPAC is the one that steers this policy and no doubt Zionism has significant influence with the weapons industry since Israel is a highly-weaponized state and big client. So really you have to consider who’s influencing whom to Lobby Congress on Middle East foreign policy, no doubt Zionists have the upper hand and the weapons industry in their pocket as well.

  5. HarryLaw
    November 8, 2015, 3:01 pm

    Winning the US election is the great prize, that is why the lobby cultivate a bi partisan approach to both Parties, and why there is 100% Congressional support for Israel. If individual Congress members take a critical approach to Israel, they know their opponent at the next election will be heavily sponsored by the lobby. That’s the way the system works “money money money, its a rich mans world”.

    • ivri
      November 8, 2015, 5:14 pm

      @ H Law: “Money, money…
      Don`t believe in that for a moment. Money can buy so much and for so long – we are talking now decades and very many politicians some of which are independently very rich. And they all have pride – forcing on them something they don`t believe in backfires fast. Remember Bush? Did pro-Israel lobby money played ANY role in his approach? And he visited Israel in the end of his second incumbency. So it`s all plain nonsense.
      The real reason is deep: Israel is a model, a shining place upon a hill, that upholds American basics: the pioneer/frontier spirit, effectiveness, economic successes, small overcoming big, a vibrant democracy, the Jewish- Christian heritage and so on; even a common sense of exceptionalism. Without that the attachment would have gone long time ago. Evidently, the recent bad experiences of the US in Arabia contributed to that – strengthening the Israeli argument.

      • Mooser
        November 8, 2015, 11:18 pm

        “Irvi”! “IRVI!!” IIRRRVVVIII!!!” Wake up, you are talking in your sleep again.

        He must be getting scared tho, now he’s talking about “Jewish-Christian heritage”.
        That’s right, “Irvi” maybe Christians will find their heritage in the illegal settlements.
        Brings ’em back to the glorious days of the Crusades!

        “the pioneer/frontier spirit” Hooray for John Waynestein, and Wyatt Erpowitz! And Daniel Boonesberg!

      • Marnie
        November 9, 2015, 12:13 am

        “The real reason is deep: Israel is a model, a shining place upon a hill, that upholds American basics: the pioneer/frontier spirit, effectiveness, economic successes, small overcoming big, a vibrant democracy, the Jewish- Christian heritage and so on; even a common sense of exceptionalism.”

        Are you for real? The zionist enterprise is home to about every “infiltrator” piece of human filth, yippee chai o chai yay chanting, flag waving, gun-totin’, shoot ’em up wannabee cowboy from America and Europe. Everything you just described isn’t “exceptionalism”, it’s imperialism and colonialism and the last thing you or any other yahoo should be attempting to do is trying to shine it up and make it look like its something its not. It’s a filthy open sewer, thanks to Ben Gurion and his mafia.

      • eljay
        November 9, 2015, 7:24 am

        || ivri: … The real reason is deep: Israel is a model, a shining place upon a hill … ||

        Yes, yes, and it’s also not quite as bad as Saudi Arabia, Mali and African “hell-holes”.

        || … that upholds American basics: the pioneer/frontier spirit, effectiveness, economic successes, small overcoming big, a vibrant democracy … ||

        Colonialism, genocide, militarism, intransigence, belligerence, racism, torture and murder. Yup, Israel does a damned fine job of upholding “American basics”.

        || … the Jewish- Christian heritage … ||

        AFAIK, the U.S. does not have a “Jewish heritage”, but it does have a Christian heritage. Please explain how Israel – a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” – upholds America’s Christian heritage.

      • Mooser
        November 9, 2015, 10:54 am

        ” Please explain how Israel – a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” – upholds America’s Christian heritage.”

        “Talknic” don’t question “Irvi”‘s religion! “Irvi” is very fervent about his religious beliefs, End Times, Second Coming of Christ, The Rapture, the New Millennium. All that stuff means a lot to “Irvi”, and Israel.

  6. HarryLaw
    November 8, 2015, 3:38 pm

    In that photo Netanyahu is telling Clinton the size of the lies he has been telling Obama. Clinton’s smile is acknowledging that when after his first meeting with Bibi he remarked privately “Who the fuck does he think he is? Who’s the fucking superpower here?” Obviously Netanyahu is.

    • Kay24
      November 8, 2015, 4:26 pm

      Unfortunately, they may say things in private that tells us the truth, but in the end, they give in to, and dance to the zionist tune. Obama and Sarkozy were both overheard showing disdain for Nutty and called him a liar, but today Obama gives him the red carpet treatment, and pretends everything is great with our relationship with Israel. Israel controls, and the US leaders are on their knees.

    • JWalters
      November 8, 2015, 8:04 pm

      “Monica said it was this big when we debriefed her.”

    • italian ex-pat
      italian ex-pat
      November 8, 2015, 9:31 pm

      Oh. From the leering smile on both men’s faces I thought Bibi was boasting about the size of his . . . hmm . . .ego? That’s it, his ego. (What did you think I was gonna say, you dirty-minded people?)

      • Kay24
        November 9, 2015, 6:29 am

        Nutty’s ego might be large, but his brain seems to be minuscule and insignificant, the reason why he cannot think straight. Leaders with small brains try to make up for it with arrogance, and exaggerate or lie very easily. Their brains are too small to accommodate good or compassionate thoughts. Nutty is typical of a small brained creature.

    • Marnie
      November 9, 2015, 12:13 am

      By the time we were finished arranging a crime scene, we planted the knife this close to her! Never doubt the iron will of the zionist state!

  7. Kathleen
    November 8, 2015, 3:39 pm

    “reinstill hope” Hope has been crushed by the continued expansion of illegal settlements and enforcement of systemic apartheid methods embedded in the Israeli government and almost everything thing the IDF does. No rebranding efforts can fix this.

  8. Donald
    November 8, 2015, 4:16 pm

    On this one the NYT got it right–one of their reporters (Rudoren maybe) more or less said this was going to happen back in the days when I think some folks thought the Iran deal would mark a permanent split between the Democrats and Israel. Yeah, right, that was going to happen. The Lobby was just going to roll over and die and people in DC were suddenly going to start telling the truth.

    This was utterly predictable (by this I mean I personally expected it) Getting the Iran deal mattered to a lot of people in DC, both for national security reasons as they saw it and also because Netanyahu and the Republicans made it a partisan issue. This sparked enough Democratic anger to override the Lobby. Now someone point to a group with a lot of money to contribute to political candidates which cares about the rights of Palestinians.

  9. MHughes976
    November 8, 2015, 4:28 pm

    Obama’s memoirs will be interesting- though maybe quite unbearable to read. There will be reviews denouncing their ant-Semitism. All those hopes!

    • JWalters
      November 8, 2015, 8:06 pm

      “Interesting things happen in the fourth quarter.” – Obama

    • kalithea
      November 8, 2015, 10:28 pm

      What hopes? I never had hope with this guy. You mean you actually fell for that hope-changey spiel?

      Obama’s like a smooth-talking cad that’s licking his chops and thinking: I’m gonna nail this one. He’s a charmer; the worst kind!

      That’s all he is, get over it – he never was the man of anyone’s dreams. Everyone’s been had – the air has left the balloon and it’s a wrinkly blob on the floor of the convention hall.

      This is the American system. Revolution is change; not more political hacks and clowns with empty promises.

      • MHughes976
        November 10, 2015, 1:15 pm

        I can’t deny that I cherished hopes. I think it was hope for a new beginning with Obama, working with liberal Jewish (not liberal Zionist) America, that really got Mondoweiss off the ground.

  10. Boomer
    November 8, 2015, 4:56 pm

    So sad, but not unexpected. In some ways, it feels like the death of a loved one who has lingered in pain, but in that case one can at least feel a sense of relief as well as loss: relief that he or she is no longer suffering. In this case, there is no relief. The U.S. has damned itself by its actions and inaction. We do not even try to atone, or to redeem. There can be no salvation for the sinner who does not seek it. Utter degradation, self-degradation, from a moral perspective.

    It’s a minor point, but I’ll observe the irony that even in seeking the deal with Iran, Obama was carrying out the neocon agenda. We have little to fear from Iran, even one with nukes, unless we fear being unable to attack at will without consequences. Only our imagined “hegemony” (the neocons wet dream) was ever at risk.

    • Marnie
      November 9, 2015, 2:37 am

      “The U.S. has damned itself by its actions and inaction. We do not even try to atone, or to redeem. There can be no salvation for the sinner who does not seek it. Utter degradation, self-degradation, from a moral perspective.”


  11. WH
    November 8, 2015, 5:25 pm

    Why can’t he show some spine? He doesn’t need to get elected anymore, why can’t he just say fuck the lobby and do the right thing? It’s clear from numerous speeches of his that he knows what that would be, but I guess in order to make it that far as a politician you have to be good at dissociating your actions from your ethical awareness.

    • RoHa
      November 8, 2015, 7:17 pm

      He needs to think about his post-presidential career. He has to set up a presidential library (shudder) and get onto the lecture circuit.

      And he remembers the guy behind the fence on the grassy knoll.

      • Kay24
        November 9, 2015, 7:02 am

        Bottom line, no US President can, and will, ever stand up to Israel or it’s PM.

        Why do I feel we have been scammed, and that we are forever being hoodwinked by a master manipulator and that we have to keep rewarding it for sabotaging, and interfering in our policies?

    • kalithea
      November 8, 2015, 10:15 pm

      Obama’s a political stooge in a suit with a suave veneer, a toothy charismatic smile, the better to fool, and zero guts – there’s no integrity there and there never was. You’ve been duped from June 2008 when he pledged allegiance to the Lobby to be served in the WH instead of serving the people, everything after that was posturing for the cameras.

      Oh, and Hillary will be even worse; she doesn’t even have to pretend: she’s a hawk in love with Zionism.

  12. JWalters
    November 8, 2015, 7:49 pm

    “Democrats are scrambling to get back in Netanyahu’s good graces after their shameful ‘anti-Zionist’ support of the Iran deal”

    Correction – Democrats are shamefully scrambling to get back in Netanyahu’s good graces after their courageous support of the Iran deal.

  13. kalithea
    November 8, 2015, 9:53 pm

    So Obama is kicking the can down the road as every other administration kicked the can down the road, but they still want to be in charge of negotiations – and the definition of dishonest is? So I guess it’s up to us to define what Zionism has always been and what it has constructed that Obama and his Zionism fawning Democrats pretend our lying eyes actually see today; APARTHEID. Because what we’re witnessing is only in our mind and we’re not being played here like violins.

    Because ultimately, Israelis and Palestinians need to believe that two states for two peoples is possible as part of a means of ensuring that you don’t have continued tension.

    Israelis don’t give a shet about a future Palestinian state!! They’re enjoying their own state with its privileges and entitlement that’s swiping land every day from that future Palestinian state. Israelis are counting on the sham process and its perpetual postponement and could care less about Palestinian suffering! Israelis love being suspended indefinitely in their la-la land and will thank Obama for at least that when they’re glad to see his backside and thinking don’t let the door hit ya’.

    And a few hundred demonstrators will stand in for the American people’s rage and impatience with the special relationship.

    Sadly, true. What is really APARTHEID IN ISRAEL, will be dishonestly portrayed as yet another infinite delay in justice i.e. rights and freedom for Palestinians and Americans will go back to football and dipping chips.

    So Democrats will oppose the de-legitimization of Zionism; well then, that means we must work hard to ensure their opposition to justice is met with a tsunami of protest.

    Isn’t it interesting that with such a dysfunctional Congress that can’t agree on getting anything done; one thing they come together on is their bloated, undignified love for Israel. What does this tell you about the corrupt power of Zionism? For starters that a foreign protectorate has more influence over America’s government than the American people themselves. It’s confirmed; Americans are a lazy lot gulping the Zionist Kool-Aid voting the same ol’ two-party system in Zionism’s debt while their own rights and the viability of their own government go down the tubes.

    Two parties working in the interest of Zionism at the expense of Americans. Kiss away those 50 billion that Netanyahu wants and needs to also enslave another people in perpetuity.

  14. Kay24
    November 9, 2015, 6:36 am

    So after all this:

    “Washington (CNN)The Obama administration’s frustration with Benjamin Netanyahu is turning into outright hostility after the Israeli prime minister’s commanding victory this week.

    Administration officials greeted his win with harsh words Wednesday and suggestions that the U.S. might scale back its support for Israel at the United Nations, a significant reversal in policy after years of vetoing resolutions damaging to Jerusalem.

    A senior administration official said that Netanyahu’s sharp tacks to the right before Tuesday’s vote — in which he ruled out the creation of a Palestinian state, a pillar of U.S. policy in the Middle East — “raise very significant substantive concerns” for the White House, and that “we have to reassess our options going forward.”

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu greets supporters at the Likud party's election headquarters in Tel Aviv, Israel, on Wednesday, March 18. Netanyahu appears poised to keep his job after Likud grabbed at least 29 of the 120 seats in Israel's partinian statehood “could change things” for the U.S.-Israel relationship.”, and that “we have to reassess our options going forward.”

    Another senior U.S. official told CNN that Netanyahu’s nixing of Palestinian statehood “could change things” for the U.S.-Israel relationship.”

    It seems the Obama administration does not keep it’s word. If Obama gives this war monger a great reception, and he leaves with our check in his pocket, it shows just how controlled or weak the US President is.

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