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As we have frequently pointed out, Israel is trying to conflate ISIS with Iran. As Netanyahu said last month, Iran and ISIS are two branches of “militant Islamic terrorism.” After Paris, he said, “The time has come for countries to condemn terrorism against us to the same degree that they condemn terrorism everywhere else in the world.” The leading Israel lobby group AIPAC has had more to say about Iran than ISIS since Paris; and Hillary Clinton has echoed the theme by saying that “we cannot view ISIS and Iran as separate challenges.”

In September I laid out a comprehensive plan to counter Iranian influence across the region and its support for terrorist proxies such as Hezbollah and Hamas.

Meantime, the neoconservative presidential candidate Marco Rubio pushed legislation targeting Hezbollah.

Israel isn’t that worried about ISIS. It’s far from the Israeli border and it has limited military capability. Israel’s real concern is a regional power struggle, in which Iran has more influence than Israel due to Russia’s support for the Assad government in Syria and for Hezbollah on Israel’s northern border.

That analysis was published a month ago by the semi-official Israeli Institute for National Security Studies, and co-authored by Amos Yadlin, a longtime military leader in the Israeli government.

Yadlin and coauthor Carmit Valensi said ISIS is far away and not a direct military strategic threat:

Analysis of the threats against Israel reveals that the Islamic State – currently far from Israel’s borders and with limited military capabilities – does not represent a direct military strategic threat at this time. By contrast, Hizbollah – armed with advanced operational capabilities and long range missiles and rockets that reach the entirety of Israel – can be strengthened by the Russian move, should Russian arms trickle into its arsenals or be intentionally supplied to the organization.

Russia’s support for Syria’s embattled president Basher al-Assad has upped the ante. The real issue is the power of Tehran, its “radical axis”.

As for Iran and Assad, Russian involvement underscores (again) the need to examine the issue at the systemic level rather than at the level of individual actors. The system – the radical axis – includes Iran, Syria, and Hizbollah, with Russia, at least for now, seen as sponsor. Hizbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah has stressed the stability of the Assad regime as a condition for the survival of the radical axis. Indeed, Iran is making supreme efforts to preserve Assad’s regime on the understanding that Syria is critical in promoting its agenda vis-à-vis the Sunni Arab world and Israel, and out of concern that Assad’s ouster will dramatically damage the Shiite axis, particularly Hizbollah…

The members of the radical axis and Russia share intelligence and a systemic rationale, providing a foundation for coordination between the Russian aerial force and Iran-Syria-Hizbollah ground forces. If one of the three scenarios described above with Assad still in control plays out, Israel will find itself in an inferior strategic position because Russia’s involvement is liable to provide a seal of approval for Iranian activity in Syria in years to come, as well as for Hizbollah forces armed with the best of Russia’s weapons on Syrian soil. Tehran’s drive for regional hegemony is a threat to Israel….

Here’s how Israel can play the ISIS crisis to build its coalition of allies.

The new energy Russia is injecting into the crisis creates two opportunities for Israel. One lies in strengthening an alliance with the Sunni nations in the region, first and foremost Saudi Arabia and Turkey, under the leadership of the United States. The anger and frustration experienced by these states given Russia’s unilateral move could therefore tag Israel as a strategic asset that can serve as a partner in a system to dramatically weaken the threat of the radical axis from the north. Two, in case of failure in moving the “Western” coalition into concurrent action against Assad and ISIS, Israel should strive to realize the fourth option – an Assad-free Syria – as an arrangement reached in partnership with Russia.

And in any case the target is now Assad.

In any case, Israel must gear up for active efforts to topple Assad, based on the understanding that beyond the moral imperative, Assad’s ouster will lead to a strategic loss for Iran and Hizbollah in the bleeding Syrian state.

Scott McConnell at the American Conservative reminds us that Israel supporters pushed for the Iraq war after the last big terrorist attack in the west, and are still pushing for an Iran war this go around:

During the lengthy negotiation of the Iran nuclear deal, the neoconservatives and Israel spared no effort to depict Iran, run by Shi’ite Muslims, as the primary enemy of the West. Even after the ratification of the deal, Israeli analysts have stressed this point: this recent analysis [which I’ve quoted from above], promoted in the important neoconservative webzine Mosaic, makes clear that Israel sees the Iran allied Lebanese group Hezbollah and the Assad government as a far greater worry than ISIS….

Israel’s lurid exaggeration of the Iranian threat is well understood in the United States, and Hezbollah would actually not exist absent Israel’s repeated invasions of Lebanon. Basically, Netanyahu would prefer that the United States and its allies fight Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, and Assad rather than the terrorists trying to lay waste to the capitals of the West.

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  1. Boomer on November 22, 2015, 12:35 pm

    I wonder how much of Obama’s policy re Syria is dictated by the Zionists in his administration?

    • oldgeezer on November 22, 2015, 1:16 pm


      Quite possibly zero. The game of politics involves meetings, public appearances, fund raising, glad handing, etc, etc. It’s a pr game largely. A local premier once said the first priority of a politician is to get reelected.

      Obama may hold personal beliefs based upon his own research. He may find his priorities dictated to him by third parties or donors. He may take his priorities from the feelings of the electorate at large. For the most part he wouldn’t have time to inform himself about all the issues he faces as a politician and he relies on advisors for any given issue. He’s not surfing the web looking for a huge variety of viewpoints. His beliefs are probably based on a combination of donors needs and information he is given by his advisors.

      • Citizen on November 22, 2015, 5:16 pm

        @ oldgeezer
        Safe bet.

    • truthurts on November 24, 2015, 3:26 am

      why should the israelis worry about the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service aka ISIS, they help create it.

  2. Marco on November 22, 2015, 1:16 pm

    “Israel isn’t that worried about ISIS. It’s far from the Israeli border and it has limited military capability.”

    Wait a second. ISIS is much further from French and U.S. borders yet we’re supposedly vulnerable to attack. By comparison, ISIS is on Israel’s doorstep.

    Why isn’t Israel concerned? Do they know something we don’t? Well, we know Israel has treated Syrian jihadis in their hospitals. It’s been reported that Israel has a quid pro quo with al-Nusra. What’s Israel’s relationship with ISIS?

    • Laurent Weppe on November 22, 2015, 5:06 pm

      Why isn’t Israel concerned? Do they know something we don’t?

      Daesh attacked Paris because it hopes Westerners will react by electing far-rightists who will oppress the Muslim Westerners in order to create a false dichotomy (“it’s either us, or the White Man who treats you like shit anyway“).

      Israel is already ruled by far-rightists who mistreat their country’s Muslim denizens as a matter of course: as a result, it’s probably much lower on Daesh’s hit list, since it’s already doing its bidding.

    • Citizen on November 22, 2015, 5:23 pm

      I’ve been wondering the same thing. ISIS doesn’t mention Israel in its constant announcements, barely in its English language web site articles. Also, ISIS has not touched Israel’s oil pipeline route from Kirkuk, Turkey to Israel.

      • JWalters on November 22, 2015, 7:46 pm

        Stock prices in the war profits sector jumped up immediately after the Paris attacks, according to Glenn Greenwald. And war profits are a major sector for Israel. … (Follow the money.)

      • Kay24 on November 23, 2015, 6:11 am

        Yes, I agree that it is very interesting that ISIS does not have Israel in it’s crosshairs, like it does other nations, and that it has never threatened it in any way, like it does other nations. I have seen many articles accusing Israel of being behind these terrorists, and it does seem ISIS is a convenience for the zionists. Who trained these terrorists, and who financed them initially.
        The recent alliance between Saudi Arabia and Israel is also questionable.

    • John O on November 22, 2015, 5:24 pm


      As I posted on another thread here:

      Strange little story in the Australia section of the online Guardian today:

      Australian journalist Sharri Markson had a run-in with Israeli security following a visit by her to a hospital in Israel treating Syrian anti-Assad fighters. My bet is that their real concern is not that she might reveal personal details about them that would put them at risk, but that she might reveal that they are ISIS/ISIL/Daesh fighters – which, after Paris, would drop Israel deep in the brown solids.

    • JWalters on November 22, 2015, 7:56 pm

      And yet all Israel’s candidates in the American presidential election are flogging an alleged “gigantic danger” of ISIS to Americans.

      And they’re all flogging an alleged “gigantic danger” of Syrian refugees, telling bare-faced lies to do so, and helping ISIS recruit more members.

      Who makes money from these lies?

    • inbound39 on November 22, 2015, 10:16 pm

      What is Israel’s relationship with ISIS? If it is supplying support and weapons to Al Nusra, an Al Qaida affiliate, then it would be unsurprising if Israeli weapons suppliers are selling to ISIS. They sell to African rebel groups, and seem to have no scruples as long as payment is forthcoming, and as long as it divides potential enemies of Israel.

    • Stephen Shenfield on November 25, 2015, 2:18 pm

      Like Al-Qaeda, from which it is a splinter group, IS probably gets its main outside support from wealthy and influential Saudis. I have yet to see convincing evidence of a link with Israel, though I wouldn’t exclude the possibility.

      It seems to me, however, that Israel and IS are “objectively” allied because they have a shared perceived interest in fomenting chaos in the region. The IS strategy is based on the idea that chaos will eventually enable them to establish a powerful Islamic state. Israel does not want that to happen, but it too values chaos for a different reason. Israel thinks that chaos will eliminate any regional power capable of challenging Israel. Indeed, Syria has already lost its capacity to mount any such challenge. But they want Iran out of the game as well. That is why they are pulling out the stops to avert the “threat” of cooperation between Iran and the West against IS, which practical considerations make an appealing option. So Israeli strategy objectively benefits IS, while IS strategy objectively benefits Israel, at least in the short run. There is no need for the postulate that they are conscious allies.

  3. HarryLaw on November 22, 2015, 1:28 pm

    Yadlin and Valensi want cooperation with Saudi Arabia and Turkey to confront the so called ‘arc of resistance’, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and Iraq now backed by Russia, unfortunately for Israel, the ‘arc of resistance’ is winning hands down in Syria, it is just a matter of time before the head choppers are crushed. Their other option, an Assad-free Syria brought about with the connivance of Russia is wishful thinking, the Russians have said on many occasions, it is up to the people of Syria to determine Assad’s fate. Just what the people of Syria think of Assad was demonstrated last year when Assad received almost 80% of the vote in what 30 countries who observed the election described as free and fair. This finding was confirmation of a poll taken in the DoHa debates a couple of years ago [a Qatari poll, no friends of Assad] they found 55% support for Assad. When the fighting is over Israel will be in a far weaker strategic position. With the ending of sanctions, Iran will be in a financially better position to supply Syria and Hezbollah with all the latest weaponry they produce mostly manufactured in Iran. The US position in the middle east is also diminished.
    I wonder if the sword Netanyahu wants Israel to rely on, is going to be big enough?

    • Citizen on November 22, 2015, 5:27 pm

      I’ve noticed when our leaders talk about regime change in Syria–booting out Assad, they don’t say very little about Syrian elections as the end game there, and when they touch on that subject, they never say Assad would be a candidate in any Syrian elections.

    • Citizen on November 23, 2015, 8:00 am

      Netanyahu admits ISIS are Israel’s allies by punishing a group of Druze who attacked them via @MichaelLee2009

    • Citizen on November 23, 2015, 8:04 am

      Who Are the Allies Against ISIS? | The American Conservative via @amconmag
      (Hint: One of them is NOT ISRAEL)

      • RoHa on November 23, 2015, 6:00 pm

        Interesting article. Interesting comments, too. I particularly liked this one:

        “friends and foes says:
        November 16, 2015 at 5:48 pm
        “Forgive me for not being entirely clear which side Israel is on.”

        You’re forgiven, but it’s always been clear to me that Israel is always and only on Israel’s side.

        What isn’t entirely clear is what side we’re on. We describe ISIS as an “existential threat”, yet we create the ideal conditions for its rise, effectively arm it, and hobble some of its bitterest enemies. Cognitive dissonance, at the least.”

    • Boomer on November 23, 2015, 11:01 am

      “Assad received almost 80% of the vote in what 30 countries who observed the election described as free and fair. This finding was confirmation of a poll taken in the DoHa debates a couple of years ago [a Qatari poll, no friends of Assad] they found 55% support for Assad.”

      The U.S. has a long, sad history of ignoring elections it does not like, feeling free to destabilize and meddle where it wants, even to foment coups.

      • on November 23, 2015, 11:44 pm

        Though your statement about the US is undoubtedly true, with regards to Syria it is not just a matter of external destabilization, but also due to internal unrest over decades of undemocratic repressive rule of the Assad government. These two are not mutually exclusive scenarios, but an unfortunate confluence of imperialism and dictatorship.

  4. ritzl on November 22, 2015, 3:32 pm

    Does anyone get the feeling that this very tenuous “evil axis” scenario is so fantasia that it signals that Israel itself knows it has dug its hole too deep and this concoction is its last, best hope to climb out of it.

    But unfortunately for Israel the hole is made up of immutable self-interest, as seen here. They do not want to solve a global problem and climb out on a ladder of good will. The are still operating in 2-year old, “me me me” mode – bibi-ing themselves into some kind of advantaged (and separate/aloof) position by goading the rest of the world into yet another war/orgy of misery and death – while the world is already dealing with tragedy and the prospect of much more to come.

    This is probably the end-game for Israel as it’s currently construed. They can’t create such a huge problem and then pretend it doesn’t concern them while citizens of its supporters are being murdered by Israel’ s creation.

    Last straw? Who knows. But this seems more tree trunk than straw. IMHO.

    • JWalters on November 22, 2015, 8:01 pm

      I also have a sense that this could be the ending of the Zionist myth. But the vicious mass murderers making tons of money off it will fight ferociously to fend off justice. Their necks could be on the block.

  5. pabelmont on November 22, 2015, 3:38 pm

    I get lost in these woods, but I wonder if the USA can be deemed to be (secretly) plotting against Israel in all this? You know, “make peace (2SS or democratic 1SS or else * * * “.

    • ritzl on November 22, 2015, 3:45 pm

      It sure seems to me that THIS time it’s a coin toss, pab. More so than any time in my memory.

      Global fatigue/antagonism toward Israeli manipulations vs. enforced, status quo political influence via money.

    • JWalters on November 22, 2015, 8:06 pm

      It seems to me there must be SOME people in government and the media who are thinking about this. It can’t only be independents and bloggers who know what’s going on. Like the German generals who plotted to take out Hitler, they would probably have to step carefully.

  6. HarryLaw on November 22, 2015, 3:42 pm

    in a leaked diplomatic cable sent in 2006 by acting Deputy Chief of Mission in Syria William Roebuck which contained the following “advice” on how to go about destabilizing the Assad government:
    PLAY ON SUNNI FEARS OF IRANIAN INFLUENCE: There are fears in Syria that the Iranians are active in both Shia proselytizing and conversion of, mostly poor, Sunnis. Though often exaggerated, such fears reflect an element of the Sunni community in Syria that is increasingly upset by and focused on the spread of Iranian influence in their country through activities ranging from mosque construction to business. Both the local Egyptian and Saudi missions here, (as well as prominent Syrian Sunni religious leaders), are giving increasing attention to the matter and we should coordinate more closely with their governments on ways to better publicize and focus regional attention on the issue.
    Also in a just released document from the US Department of Defence this..

    “If the situation unravels there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).”

    • Boomer on November 23, 2015, 10:58 am

      “in a leaked diplomatic cable sent in 2006 by acting Deputy Chief of Mission in Syria William Roebuck which contained the following “advice” on how to go about destabilizing the Assad government: – See more at: link to”

      Ditto to scott’s “wow”

    • traintosiberia on November 25, 2015, 12:19 am

      May be that is why bonker Bolton has written a piece in NYT (11/24/15) asking for creation of a Sunni state in Syria plus Iraq ( NYT tells its readers that he is a scholar )

  7. Scott on November 22, 2015, 5:03 pm

    in a leaked diplomatic cable sent in 2006 by acting Deputy Chief of Mission in Syria William Roebuck which contained the following “advice” on how to go about destabilizing the Assad government: – See more at:

    Wow! Interesting find.

  8. Bandolero on November 22, 2015, 5:41 pm

    Less than a week after the 20th Oct, 2015, ie the day the Israeli Institute for National Security Studies released it’s above quoted report describing the axis of resistance as a bigger threat compared to ISIS, Israel got a bit of trouble on it’s demarcation line with the Syrian Golan. Since the Yarmouk martyr brigades allegdly pleadge allegiance to ISIS both, Nusra and ISIS terrorists, seem to operate in that area, and both seemed to be supported by the IDF. But suddenly, on the night of Oct 26th, 2015, there were reports of serious shooting and a hell of Israeli aircrafts operating in the area near that demarcation line:

    And, suddenly and surprisingly, on the evening of that very same Sunday at the end of October, the Netanyahu cabinet officially declared ISIS, Nusra and Abdullah Azzam Brigades to be “illegal terror organizations.”

    To me it looks pretty much like the IDF somehow burned it’s own fingers on that day at the end of October 2015 with it’s support for ISIS and Nusra in Syria, but Israel doesn’t want to say what really happened that day.

    • inbound39 on November 22, 2015, 10:25 pm

      I tend to view it a little like ritzl does. Israel has painted itself into a corner and it finding it next to impossible to maintain support or garner support for what its doing behind the scenes. What we do know is Israel has no qualms interfering politically across borders and engaging in subterfuge to destabilise those countries it views as a threat to its expansionist policies.

      • inbound39 on November 22, 2015, 10:27 pm

        Russia was and is a major fly in the ointment for Israel. It cannot do anything about that because Russia will squash Israel like a gnat. And Netanyahu knows that. He has no influence over Putin. None.

      • Sibiriak on November 22, 2015, 11:52 pm

        Nevertheless, there are shared strategic interests and strong military/intelligence ties between Russia and Israel, and deep cultural ties as well. Russia is going to pursue its “national interests” in Syria, no doubt, but the policy is not fundamentally anti-Israel.

        Cf. “ANALYSIS: Drone deals heighten military ties between Israel and Russia

      • Keith on November 23, 2015, 3:56 pm

        INBOUND39- “It cannot do anything about that because Russia will squash Israel like a gnat.”

        You are wildly exaggerating Russia’s capability for force projection in the Middle East, which is rather limited. The Russian airpower in Syria has done amazingly well considering its limited capabilities. I would be astonished if there was a Syrian military victory in view of the forces supporting ISIS. The empire is on the attack globally to secure hegemony and is spurning any negotiated settlement.

      • inbound39 on November 24, 2015, 1:04 am

        I do not think I am wildly exagerrating Russia’s capabilities at all. Seems to me you are under estimating Russia. It’s warships are far superior to anything Israel has and have even alarmed America with the use of ICBM’s. It outnumbers Israel on any weaponry level. Israel has no answer to Russian Air Defence weapons which is why it constantly opposes Russia selling them to Syria and Iran. Even America is rightly cautious about Russian Air Defence missiles . Even its latest F35 jets can’t outfox them. Drone sales or not….Russia is not Pro Israel. Russian techs will pull the Israeli drones apart and clone them. Then improve on them.

      • ritzl on November 24, 2015, 10:45 am

        Hi Keith. I think part of the significant “force projection” advantage Russia has is the ability to launch cruise missiles at ISIS from its own territory – the Caspian sea.

        Cost would be the only impediment to bombing them into oblivion, or chaos whichever came first. Russia has the ability to stand off and rain fire on all those ISIS parades that we see so many photos of but which the US seems incapable of finding and disrupting. Russia could destabilize the destabilizers pretty easily.

        The question is, “Will they?” for all the reasons you generally point out.

      • Keith on November 24, 2015, 11:41 am

        INBOUND39- “I do not think I am wildly exagerrating Russia’s capabilities at all.”

        Sure you are. I am not talking about the quality of Russia’s weapons, I am talking about force projection, the amount of military force which can be brought to bear. If you take into account all of the military capabilities of US allies in the area, including NATO member Turkey and potentially Israel, the number of troops, aircraft, etc. is absolutely enormous, and that is not even counting US forces which are located in Middle East bases too numerous to mention. Russia, on the other hand, has a relatively small contingent of surprisingly effective airpower designed to achieve limited objectives. Russia is incapable of sustaining a major military effort, Putin would commit political suicide to attempt it. I am not the only one who feels this way. A couple of quotes from The Saker, a big Putin fan.

        “Why do I say partially? Because while the current air-defense capabilities of the Russian forces in Syria are adequate to defend the Syrian airspace against a limited attack, they are far from being sufficient to prevent the US from a determined large scale attack. All the Russian did is raise the costs of intervention for the USA, but they did not make it impossible.”


        “But I also think that it is crucial for all of us, who are sympathetic to Russia and the anti-imperial Resistance worldwide, to stop presenting this intervention like some kind of “game changing” “done deal” in which the Russian Bear will crush all the terrorists and restore peace to Syria. Alas, we are still very very far from that.” (The Saker)

      • on November 24, 2015, 11:49 am

        Russia, even after inheriting the vast bulk of Soviet military arms which at that time was the largest collection of nuclear and conventional weaponry and equipment, couldn’t force a military defeat of the ragtag Chechen insurgents who had minimal foreign backers. Russia while a genuine threat, is not much different from any oppressive powers that rely on brute strength to achieve victory. The moment they stop pumping vast amount of money and weaponry to the psychopathic idiot ruling Chechya, they won’t be needing to worry about Syria anymore.

  9. crypticvalentin on November 23, 2015, 1:45 am

    why does Israel bomb those who fight ISIS, but never bomb ISIS?..

  10. wondering jew on November 23, 2015, 6:16 am

    What are the various actors hoping for?
    Russia and Iran are hoping for a return to the 2011 status quo, Assad in power. Israel is rooting against that. The US seems to be split: against Assad and against ISIS as well. Is this a feasible position? Does it require too much finesse? Does it require boots on the ground where the other (leaving Assad in power) does not involve any boots on the ground?

    • inbound39 on November 24, 2015, 2:58 am

      Israel wants to weaken Syria by breaking it up into smaller countries along sectarian lines thus making Syria no longer a valid threat to Israeli Middle East Power Ambitions. Israel and America have a Problem because Russia and Iran are not going to play ball with their plan. All or any outcomes rely on Israel ending the Occupation of Palestine and cease blocking a Palestinian State. Russia and Iran want Israel put back behind its declared borders and thereby back in its box and cease meddling in neighbours affairs to destabilise them.

  11. Egbert on November 23, 2015, 7:19 am

    ISIS/whatever is a creation of western (including Israel and other ME) intelligence services. Each will have its own set of motives, possibly overlapping with others and some possibly mutually exclusive. Some aims include the destruction of Syria and the removal Russia’s warm water naval facility at Tartus. The ISIS/whatever people in the Golan Heights are effectively (wittingly or unwittingly) guarding the territory on behalf of Israel.

  12. Kris on November 23, 2015, 9:17 am

    The Zionist entity, aka JSIL (Jewish State in the Levant) is a lot like ISIL in sheer ruthlessness and cruelty.

    How is running over a 16-year-old girl with your car and then shooting her in the head any worse than decapitating and then crucifying someone?

    BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) — A prominent Israeli settler ran over a 16-year-old Palestinian girl and then shot her dead, saying that he believed she intended to carry out a stabbing attack at Huwarra checkpoint in the northern occupied West Bank district of Nablus, Israeli media reported.

    The Palestinian military liaison office identified the teenager as Ashraqat Taha Ahmad Qatanani from Nablus, and said they had notified her family of their daughter’s death.

    Israeli news site Ynet identified the man who ran over and shot Qatanani as Gershon Mesika, the former head of the “Samaria regional council,” which represents Israel’s illegal settlements in the northern West Bank.

    After running the girl over with his car and landing in a ditch, Mesika reportedly got out of his car and opened fire on the girl, alongside Israeli forces who also opened fire, Israeli media reported.

    An Israeli army spokesperson did not immediately respond when asked for comment.
    No Israelis were reported injured in the alleged attack.

    Notice how the soldiers of the “most moral army” joined in and opened fire on the run-over teenager, too.

    Also notice, at , the knife carefully placed in the foreground of the photo of the dead girl’s body.

  13. Kay24 on November 23, 2015, 9:23 am

    Israelis continue to have racist thoughts, and apartheid policies are still the norm.

    Israeli protesters demand separate roads for Palestinians, Israelis:

    Chances are high some of those roads run through Palestinian property.

  14. Qualtrough on November 23, 2015, 10:31 am

    Here we have ISIS, one of the most evil and despicable groups ever, bar none, and the primary concern of the US is still about removing Assad from power. We held our noses and enlisted Stalin in the fight against the Nazis, but apparently overthrowing Assad is far more important than eradicating ISIS. Disgusting.

  15. Michael Rabb on November 23, 2015, 11:09 am

    ISIS attacks Paris ?
    Did you hear about Gaza last summer ?!
    Jews killed thousands.

  16. Atlantaiconoclast on November 23, 2015, 10:57 pm

    I have tried without much success to convince progressives that Israel is intentionally supporting the destabilization of Syria, but they tell me to turn off Alex Jones, or call me a conspiracy theorist. I am not a fan of Mr. Jones, but I am not afraid to consider the possibility of conspiracy. I am not naive.

    Till more leading progressive voices point to Israel’s policy of destabilization, as laid out in the Oded Yinon plan, most progressive followers will simply think it absurd to think that Israel would be supporting such strife and chaos on its doorstep. As if Israel would ever be required to take in refugees!!!!!!

    • on November 24, 2015, 12:40 am

      Who are these ‘progressives’? Most white progrrssives are very pro-Assad,Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Russia in order to make a stand against Western imperalism, atleast their definition of it. Progressives in Syria definitely are NOT pro-Assad, because unlike the armchair analysts in safe, sheltered America, they have a far deeper understanding on the elements that directly affect their and their loved ones lives.

      • Atlantaiconoclast on November 24, 2015, 11:21 am

        People in Political Science in PhD programs, prominent leftists , etc.

      • on November 25, 2015, 12:38 am

        Wouldn’t it be easier if you just list down the names of the more prominent ones? I’m curious who are these so called progressives who would be support a government that routinely torture and kill civilians, invade neighbouring countries (Lebanon), restrict any meaningful political activity and the free media and possess many other progressive ideals.

        Strange that they, whilst steadfastly unwilling to leave America to be under the wonderful rule of Assad, most Syrians would offer their lives for the opportunity to leave Syria. Somethings not adding up here.

      • annie on November 25, 2015, 12:43 am

        most Syrians would offer their lives for the opportunity to leave Syria.


      • on November 25, 2015, 12:50 am

        I suppose news after news showing the desperation of Syrian refugees to get out and move to a safer place, like Turkey, Greece, Germany etc is not enough for the progressive-except-coloured people Annie.They are all probably terrorists fleeing the mighty Syrian Arab Army and Russia for you. If you like Assad so much you know it doesnt take much for you to go there and volunteer your services to help keep the regime in power.

    • echinococcus on November 24, 2015, 2:13 am

      “Progressive” is what anyone calls himself nowadays –even warmongering presidential candidates. It entails neither brains nor being informed (or curiosity that allows the latter.)
      Also, call it PNAC –just to underline the fact that it’s official US policy implemented since 2000.

    • Chu on November 24, 2015, 1:09 pm

      Oded Yinon plan

      I don’t think the Israeli borders will end even if all of Palestine is consumed by Israel. The Yinon plan seemed to transmute into the ‘clean break strategy’ which then morphed into PNAC. And since the Neocons rose to prominence post 9-11 and are desperate to control middle east policy, the implementation of Clean Break seems like it’s going well – Israel is the kingdom where the surrounding states are becoming the surfdom. And Iraq has been razed, and now it’s Syria. Even Egypt has another yes man dictator back after Mbarak.

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