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Yesterday a group of neoconservatives denounced Donald Trump as an ignoramus on foreign policy. The neocons were among more than 75 Republican foreign policy experts who published a letter yesterday saying they are “united in opposition” to a Donald Trump presidency. That letter never mentioned Israel though it did speak of Trump’s “isolationism” and bigotry.

His vision of American influence and power in the world is wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle. He swings from isolationism to military adventurism within the space of one sentence…

His embrace of the expansive use of torture is inexcusable.

His hateful, anti-Muslim rhetoric undercuts the seriousness of combatting Islamic radicalism by alienating partners in the Islamic world making significant contributions to the effort. Furthermore, it endangers the safety and Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of American Muslims…

His insistence that Mexico will fund a wall on the southern border inflames unhelpful passions

Mitt Romney’s speech blasting Donald Trump today echoed some of these points, on Islam, torture, and foreign policy. Romney says Trump could lead the U.S. into “the abyss.”

What [Trump] said on “60 Minutes” about Syria and ISIS has to go down as the most ridiculous and dangerous idea of the campaign season: Let ISIS take out Assad, he said, and then we can pick up the remnants. Think about that: Let the most dangerous terror organization the world has ever known take over a country? This is recklessness in the extreme.

Donald Trump tells us that he is very, very smart. I’m afraid that when it comes to foreign policy he is very, very not smart…

Mr. Trump is directing our anger for less than noble purposes. He creates scapegoats of Muslims and Mexican immigrants, he calls for the use of torture and for killing the innocent children and family members of terrorists. He cheers assaults on protesters. He applauds the prospect of twisting the Constitution to limit first amendment freedom of the press. This is the very brand of anger that has led other nations into the abyss.

Politico has a detailed piece on the neoconservative war on Trump by Michael Crowley. It cites his Israel views prominently.

In interviews with POLITICO, leading neocons — people who promoted the Iraq War, detest Putin and consider Israel’s security non-negotiable — said Trump would be a disaster…

[H]e has alarmed pro-Israel Republicans with his pledge to be a “neutral” arbiter in talks between Israel and the Palestinians.

Eliot A. Cohen, the neoconservative who organized the open letter on Trump above, tells Politico he would do as neoconservative Robert Kagan has said he would do: vote for Hillary Clinton over Trump.

“Hillary is the lesser evil, by a large margin,” says Cohen, signaling that neocons and Republicans may abandon the party.

Bill Kristol and Elliott Abrams have both advised Marco Rubio, and both of them tell Politico they would not vote for either Trump or Clinton. Kristol:

“If it’s Trump-Clinton, I’d work with others to recruit a strong conservative third party candidate, and do my best to help him win (which by the way would be more possible than people think, especially when people — finally — realize Trump shouldn’t be president and Hillary is indicted),” Kristol wrote in an email…

Some of these neocon warmongers are obviously concerned that Trump will force them into the margins of the discourse, at last:

Trump has shown little interest in the neoconservative cause of an interventionist foreign policy guided by principles like democracy and human rights. And he says the neocon project of invading Iraq may have been “the worst decision” in presidential history.

And Politico’s Crowley quotes Elliott Abrams baiting Robert Kagan over Hillary Clinton’s closeness to Sidney Blumenthal.

“I would ask Bob [Kagan] what job he thinks Sidney Blumenthal will have at the NSC before pulling the lever for Clinton,” he added — a reference to the longtime Clinton adviser and bete noir of the right.

This may be an implicit reference to Sidney’s son Max Blumenthal, whose anti-Zionism has already been an issue in the campaign, because his father sent along some of his articles to the former secretary of state.

Notice that signatories to that open letter do not include Bill Kristol, who probably has no problem with the torture issue. But Daniel Drezner, Max Boot, Niall Ferguson, Michael Chertoff, Michael Rubin and a host of other neoconservatives are on board:

Max Boot
Michael Chertoff
Seth Cropsey
Daniel Drezner
Eric Edelman
Niall Ferguson
Aaron Friedberg
Reuel Marc Gerecht
Robert Kagan
Michael Rubin
Kori Schake
Randy Scheunemann
Gary J. Schmitt
Michael Singh
Ray Takeyh
Frances F. Townsend
Dov S. Zakheim
Roger Zakheim
Philip Zelikow
Robert B. Zoellick

On a related front, Politico reports on the massive amount of Wall Street funds going into the battle against Trump. Money’s not an object. The neoconservative Paul Singer, who supports gay rights and women’s rights and is big on Israel, is in with all four feet.

[One unnamed source] said Singer, who is worth close to $2 billion, is fully dedicated to making sure the group has all the funds it needs to inundate the airwaves in Florida and other states viewed as not entirely friendly to Trump, a group that includes Illinois, Missouri, Arizona, Wisconsin and other states in the Northeast and West. Ohio could join the list if Trump moves ahead of the state’s governor, John Kasich, in the polls.

Wall Street bigs may also swing to Hillary Clinton instead of Trump:

Clinton has many supporters on Wall Street — something that has complicated her primary campaign against Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders — and plenty of Republicans who don’t like her would still prefer her to Trump. “I could never support Hillary,” the Wall Street executive who raised money for Bush said. “But plenty of my friends will just hold their nose and vote for her.”

Philip Weiss

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  1. yourstruly on March 3, 2016, 4:37 pm

    So the neocons won’t support Trump because he’s pro-torture and doesn’t support an interventionist policy guided by principles of democracy and human rights. Yeah, like they’re really upset by Israel’s crimes against humanity, its apartheid system of government in occupied Palestine, or the U.S.-backed Saudi war on the people of Yemen. Yet the neocons hardly mention Israel? What, are they getting cold feet about openly supporting the Zionist criminal enterprise? Sorry, neocons, no use pretending you’re only interested in what’s good for America. Much too late for that. After all you’re widely known as hard core Israel-firsters. As Israel goes down, so will you – glub, glub, glub, glub!

    • inbound39 on March 3, 2016, 6:40 pm

      My feeling exactly at this juncture. No-one in the Pro Israel Republican Party thought Trump had a serious chance of winning. The Zionists full of self confidence and sense of being untouchable and supreme,therefore,did nothing and badly misjudged the American people. Trump caught the Republicans with their pants down. Wheeling the likes of Romney in shows they are in a state of panic. Nothing they do now can stop Trump as he doesn’t need Zionist money. No matter what sums the Zionists throw at the problem now will change the American mood. It is lost money. Personally I think it is a just outcome for Zionism to lose such huge sums. It will transfer to their intellect and maybe get them to pull their heads in. They can blame Netanyahu and his Israeli regime with deadbeat terrorists like Yaalon,Bennett and Elkin and Lieberman and Glick. Rubio has not been the magic trick they hoped for. He has foundered and beem swept aside by Trump and I have a strong suspicion that Clinton,the final Zionist card will not have the capacity to stop Trump either once he levels his attack on her….she has plenty to hide and Trump will have no problem revealing as much as he can. Can’t say I am overly fond of Trump but if he smashes the Republican and Democrat Pro Israeli’s to pieces then the end justifies the means in my book. The American Government is due for a thorough delousing.

      • Krauss on March 4, 2016, 12:44 am

        The recent controversy has been great. It has exposed all these neocons for what they are: an alien interest group within the GOP which only cares about Israel.

        As soon as the GOP nominee isn’t a slave to Israeli interests, they are crossing the aisle for either Hillary or exploring a 3rd party bid.

        Max Boot, another Zionist neocon, said he would vote for Stalin over Trump. Think about that. This is a man who’s murdered more people in Hitler. That he got away with that quote speaks volumes about how whitewashed the crimes of communism totalitarianism still is.

        And it also speaks volumes about how, again, little these people actually care about the GOP aside from endless support of Israel. It’s a great time to expose these vermin, because their alien interest group lobbying has cost countless lives and trillions of dollars, the rise of ISIS and more.

        Their “pro-democracy” front was always a sham. It was and remains the case of Israel support. That’s it.

  2. amigo on March 3, 2016, 5:37 pm

    Correct me if I am wrong but didn,t Trump endorse Romney when he ran (unsuccessfully ) against Obama last time.I seem to recall those two standing together in one of trump,s hotels.You just cannot trust a bought and paid for donkey fellating chicken hawk like Romney.

    I answered my own question.Politics is such a dirty business.No honour, no loyalty .

    “It’s my honor, real honor, to endorse Mitt Romney,” Trump said, with Romney and his wife standing nearby. Calling Romney “tough” and “smart,” Trump said, “he’s not going to continue to allow bad things to happen to this country.”

    Romney responded by praising Trump for “an extraordinary ability to understand how our economy works and to create jobs” and for being “one of the few who has stood up to say China is cheating” in international trade.” Trump

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/02/politics/campaign-wrap/

    • MHughes976 on March 3, 2016, 5:57 pm

      According to the BBC News website you are quite correct.

      • amigo on March 3, 2016, 6:11 pm

        “According to the BBC News website you are quite correct.”.MHughes 976

        Thanks for the confirmation.

  3. wondering jew on March 3, 2016, 6:20 pm

    I understand, but I don’t understand. I understand that Trump is superior to Hillary regarding the Middle East and the tendency of neoconservatives to choose regime change when the results have been disastrous. I don’t understand: Do you think Trump is responsible vis a vis: 1. American Muslims. 2. US policy towards visiting Muslims 3. Mexico and illegal immigrants from south of the border. 4. Europe’s estimation of the US 5. The Islamic world’s estimation of the US?

    Trump is a loudmouth, a blowhard, a liar and a bullshit artist, who hesitated disowning the endorsement of David Duke. He is better than Hillary on the issues of I-P and regime change. Does that make up for all his faults?

    • Mooser on March 4, 2016, 12:03 am

      “Trump is a loudmouth, a blowhard, a liar and a bullshit artist, who hesitated disowning the endorsement of David Duke.”

      But he’s promised to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem!,(a well-recorded promise he can’t go back on, too!) and rebuild the Trump Temple!
      Trump can make Jerusalem the capital of Israel.

      • RoHa on March 4, 2016, 5:28 am

        “But he’s promised to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem!,(a well-recorded promise he can’t go back on, too! ”

        It a truth universally acknowledged that, when a politician is elected to office he never welshes on any promises, recorded or otherwise, that he made when campaigning for that office.

      • Mooser on March 6, 2016, 5:41 pm

        “It a truth universally acknowledged that, when a politician is elected to office he never welshes on any promises, recorded or otherwise, that he made when campaigning for that office.”

        “Welshes”? Was that necessary? At any rate, baiting-and-switching the ratepayers is one thing, but that was a promise to God. You don’t renege on those.

    • Krauss on March 4, 2016, 12:39 am

      Nice trolling, yonah. We’re not interested in a Trump candidacy. Most of us are Bernie supporters who view Hillary as a reactionary. We’re discussing Trump’s effects on “neoconservatism”(read: Zionism through military intervention), which transcends both parties.

      I see these Zionist trolls trying to make the case that we’re somehow pro-Trump because we’re anti-neocon(by extension anti-Zionist, because that is what neocons are all about). Rugal got banned for trolling. I wouldn’t bet big sums on you staying around much longer if you continue to purposefully troll and spread low-quality horse manure like you do. Crawl back to your little hasbara sewer.

      • echinococcus on March 4, 2016, 5:16 am

        We’re not interested in a Trump candidacy. Most of us are Bernie supporters who view Hillary as a reactionary. We’re discussing Trump’s effects on “neoconservatism”(read: Zionism through military intervention), which transcends both parties.

        So by what logic do you justify being a supporter of “Bernie” who consistently supported “Zionism through military intervention” through all his votes and statements, including hysterics in public invoking a non-existing right of the invader to defend itself to specifically defend the last genocidal massacre of Gaza?

        Is it that you only have a “cultural-political” objection to the Neocons and “reactionary” Hillary, giving a pass to “Labor” and “liberal” Zionists because they call themselves –gag– progressive?

        Or would you state that imperialism and its wars are too bad, but you are OK for them to continue as long as you have a decent retirement plan, a low mortgage and socialized medicine? Perhaps comment on how “Bernie”s plan to continue war and international banditry, mainly as requested by Zionist policy, contributes to make these goodies affordable?

      • wondering jew on March 4, 2016, 3:30 pm

        Krauss- an analysis of trump’s effect on the neocons is a valid answer to my point. it is not troll-ish to read a column like this and see it as approval of trump.

        haven’t communicated with me in years and now right off call me a troll and bet on my disbarment. lots of class, krauss.

      • Mooser on March 4, 2016, 5:44 pm

        “haven’t communicated with me in years and now right off call me a troll and bet on my disbarment. lots of class, krauss.”

        “Yonah” if I were you, I would send all his letters, cards, keepsakes and gifts back. And don’t let him see you cry!

        “and bet on my disbarment.”

        Take it easy “Yonah”. It’s an excommunication, not a “disbarment”. Why, did you think registering at Mondo admitted you to the New York State Bar? “Yonah” you’ve been old enough to go into any bar, for years. Mention “Mondo” at any Jewish bar, and you might get free drinks, tho.

      • Emory Riddle on March 7, 2016, 9:37 am

        Trump ought to start dropping some hints as to who the so called “Republican establishment” who is pulling out all the stops really represents. That might stop them in their tracks

    • Bandolero on March 4, 2016, 9:20 pm

      yonah fredman

      “He is better than Hillary on the issues of I-P and regime change. Does that make up for all his faults?”

      What could be more important than the question of war and peace?

      I think the question of war and peace – “regime change” as you call it – is by far the most important question of all regarding a future US Commander in Chief. Clinton’s record here is abysmal – and what Trump says in that regard sounds a lot better than what Clinton says. She all but promised war on Russia – calling it a “no fly zone” against Russian aircraft operating on sound legal grounds in Syria. Trump instead wants to get along with Putin.

      • echinococcus on March 4, 2016, 11:55 pm

        Heck, he also promises much better and much more adult than does the record and behavior of Mr Sanders, too.

      • Bandolero on March 6, 2016, 6:49 pm

        echinococcus

        I disagree. The record of war and peace of Bernie Sanders is actually very good. He always disagreed with war when it mattered.

        Regarding talk on war and peace both Trump and Sanders have some stains – which is easy to explain and possibly to excuse by lot’s of pressure of the neocon war party and their liberal interventionist sidekicks. Both are talking no matter what a lot better than the war party.

        The main difference I see between Trump and Sanders is that Trump leads with some 80 delegates while Sanders trails with a couple of hundred delegates. If – big if – that would change and Sanders would lead, I’ld happily support Bernie for President versus The Donald.

      • echinococcus on March 9, 2016, 5:21 pm

        Bandolero,

        What planet do you live on?
        The official voting record by itself is enough to show that Sanders endorsed most wars of aggression and international interventions by US imperialism. The few exceptions are in the nature of ass-covers. All war budgets accepted. His “issue” list is no different than the Empress’.

        I agree that Trump says sounds superficially better than what the Empress or Sanders do. What they say, though, is not worth paying any attention to.

  4. Steve Grover on March 3, 2016, 6:45 pm

    “This may be an implicit reference to Sidney’s son Max Blumenthal, whose anti-Zionism has already been an issue in the campaign, because his father sent along some of his articles to the former secretary of state. ”
    I will vote for Hilary only if she vows to put Max Blumenthal in Gitmo on her first day in office.

    • Another Dave on March 3, 2016, 9:58 pm

      Sending journalists to a torture camp?

      That’s certainly an ultra-conservative thing to do.

    • Mooser on March 3, 2016, 11:37 pm

      “I will vote for Hilary only if she vows to put Max Blumenthal in Gitmo on her first day in office.”

      Zing! That “Stevie Grober” is just a one-man charm offensive for Zionism, isn’t he?

    • kalithea on March 4, 2016, 1:00 am

      Considering what a nice guy Max is; I find your comment offensive to say the least.

    • Peter in SF on March 4, 2016, 3:54 am

      I will vote for Hilary only if she vows to put Max Blumenthal in Gitmo on her first day in office.

      Are you making fun of yourself? If not, could you elaborate on this?

    • echinococcus on March 4, 2016, 5:37 am

      Oh? You vote in the US? How strange, I though you were a Zionist, with an illegal homeland in Palestine.
      Anyway, who else than Hillary (or Bernie?) are you gonna to vote for if Trump is alive by election time, now that he told you guys he’s not for sale?

  5. John Douglas on March 3, 2016, 7:26 pm

    Just when I had concluded that “Trump would make a horrible president” rivaled “Cogito ergo sum” in its absolute certainty comes this letter recommending against Trump and signed by a unique group of utter losers in the area of foreign policy. Have they been right about anything? Even on what’s best for Israel, which they serve always before the US, they are consistently wrong. Should I re-evaluate Trump? Well, no.

  6. JLewisDickerson on March 3, 2016, 8:01 pm

    RE: “What [Trump] said on ’60 Minutes’ about Syria and ISIS has to go down as the most ridiculous and dangerous idea of the campaign season: Let ISIS take out Assad, he said, and then we can pick up the remnants. Think about that: Let the most dangerous terror organization the world has ever known take over a country? This is recklessness in the extreme.” ~ Mitt Romney

    MY SNARKCASM: Now Mitt tells us! ! !

    ■ IMAGE: Reagan meeting with Afghan Mujahideen leaders in the Oval Office in 1983.

    FROM WIKIPEDIA (Afghanistan):

    [EXCERPTS] . . . In April 1978, the communist People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) seized power in Afghanistan in the Saur Revolution. Within months, opponents of the communist government launched an uprising in eastern Afghanistan that quickly expanded into a civil war waged by guerrilla mujahideen against government forces countrywide. The Pakistani government provided these rebels with covert training centers, while the Soviet Union sent thousands of military advisers to support the PDPA government.[40] Meanwhile, increasing friction between the competing factions of the PDPA — the dominant Khalq and the more moderate Parcham — resulted in the dismissal of Parchami cabinet members and the arrest of Parchami military officers under the pretext of a Parchami coup.

    In September 1979, Nur Muhammad Taraki was assassinated in a coup within the PDPA orchestrated by fellow Khalq member Hafizullah Amin, who assumed the presidency. Distrusted by the Soviets, Amin was assassinated by Soviet special forces in December 1979. A Soviet-organized government, led by Parcham’s Babrak Karmal but inclusive of both factions, filled the vacuum. Soviet troops were deployed to stabilize Afghanistan under Karmal in more substantial numbers, although the Soviet government did not expect to do most of the fighting in Afghanistan. As a result, however, the Soviets were now directly involved in what had been a domestic war in Afghanistan.[41] The PDPA prohibited usury, declared equality of the sexes,[42] and introducing women to political life.[42]

    The United States has been supporting anti-Soviet Afghan mujahideen and foreign “Afghan Arab” fighters through Pakistan’s ISI as early as mid-1979 (see CIA activities in Afghanistan).[43] Billions in cash and weapons, which included over two thousand FIM-92 Stinger surface-to-air missiles, were provided by the United States and Saudi Arabia to Pakistan.[44][45] . . .

    ARTICLE:
    ● Meek, James. Worse than a Defeat. London Review of Books, Vol. 36, No. 24, December 2014, pages 3–10 ~~~ http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n24/james-meek/worse-than-a-defeat

    NOTES:
    ● 43. Meher, Jagmohan (2004). America’s Afghanistan War: The Success that Failed. Gyan Books. pp. 68–69, 94. ISBN 978-81-7835-262-6. -~~~ http://www.abebooks.com/9788178352626/Americas-Afghanistan-Success-Failed-Meher-8178352621/plp

    ● 44. “Story of US, CIA and Taliban”. The Brunei Times. 2009. Archived from the original on 2013-12-05. Retrieved 16 December 2013. ~~~ https://web.archive.org/web/20131205090713/http://www.bt.com.bn/analysis/2008/12/17/story_of_us_cia_and_taliban

    ● 45. “The Cost of an Afghan ‘Victory'”. The Nation. 1999. Archived from the original on 2014-03-02. Retrieved 16 December 2013. ~~~ https://web.archive.org/web/20140302090727/http://www.thenation.com/article/cost-afghan-victory?page=0,1

    • JLewisDickerson on March 3, 2016, 8:06 pm

      ALSO SEE: “How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas”, By Andrew Higgins, The Wall Street Journal, 01/24/09

      [EXCERPT] Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor’s bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile’s trajectory back to an “enormous, stupid mistake” made 30 years ago.
      “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel’s destruction.
      Instead of trying to curb Gaza’s Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat’s Fatah. . .
      . . . When Israel first encountered Islamists in Gaza in the 1970s and ’80s, they seemed focused on studying the Quran, not on confrontation with Israel. The Israeli government officially recognized a precursor to Hamas called Mujama Al-Islamiya, registering the group as a charity. It allowed Mujama members to set up an Islamic university and build mosques, clubs and schools. Crucially, Israel often stood aside when the Islamists and their secular left-wing Palestinian rivals battled, sometimes violently, for influence in both Gaza and the West Bank.
      “When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake,” says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza in the late 1980s and early ’90s as an Arab-affairs expert in the Israeli military. “But at the time nobody thought about the possible results.” . . .

      ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html

    • JLewisDickerson on March 3, 2016, 8:09 pm

      P.P.S.
      “Devil’s Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam” (American Empire Project)
      Hardcover – October 13, 2005
      by Robert Dreyfuss (Author)

      The first complete account of America’s most dangerous foreign policy miscalculation: sixty years of support for Islamic fundamentalism.

      Devil’s Game is the gripping story of America’s misguided efforts, stretching across decades, to dominate the strategically vital Middle East by courting and cultivating Islamic fundamentalism. Among all the books about Islam, this is the first comprehensive inquiry into the touchiest issue: How and why did the United States encourage and finance the spread of radical political Islam?

      Backed by extensive archival research and interviews with dozens of policy makers and CIA, Pentagon, and foreign service officials, Robert Dreyfuss argues that this largely hidden relationship is greatly to blame for the global explosion of terrorism. He follows the trail of American collusion from support for the Muslim Brotherhood in 1950s Egypt to links with Khomeini and Afghani jihadists to cooperation with Hamas and Saudi Wahhabism. Dreyfuss also uncovers long-standing ties between radical Islamists and the leading banks of the West. The result is as tragic as it is paradoxical: originally deployed as pawns to foil nationalism and communism, extremist mullahs and ayatollahs now dominate the region, thundering against freedom of thought, science, women’s rights, secularism–and their former patron.

      Wide-ranging and deeply informed, Devil’s Game reveals a history of double-dealing, cynical exploitation, and humiliating embarrassment. What emerges is a pattern that, far from furthering democracy or security, ensures a future of blunders and blowback.

      LINK – http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Game-Unleash-Fundamentalist-American/dp/0805076522

    • JLewisDickerson on March 3, 2016, 8:13 pm

      P.P.P.S. ALSO SEE: “Secret Affairs: Britain’s Collusion with Radical Islam”, By Mark Curtis, Reviewed by Kim Sengupta, The Independent, 7/30/10

      [EXCERPTS] For years, violent Islamist groups were allowed to settle in Britain, using the country as a base to carry out attacks abroad. This was tolerated in the belief that they would not bomb the country where they lived and that, as long as they are here, the security service would be able to infiltrate them. At the same time mosque after mosque was taken over through intimidation by the fundamentalists. Police and others in authority refused pleas from moderate Muslims with the excuse that they did not want to interfere.
      There was even a name for this amoral accommodation: the “covenant of security”. We now know that jihadists will indeed blow up their home country and that the security agencies signally failed to infiltrate the terrorist cells while they had the chance.
      The part played by officials in the growth of terrorism in Britain is a relatively small-scale affair compared to what went on abroad. Successive UK governments had nurtured and promoted extremists for reasons of realpolitik often at a terrible cost to the population of those countries. Mark Curtis, in his book on “Britain’s collusion with radical Islam”, charts this liaison. He points out how reactionary and violent Muslim groups were used against secular nationalists at the time of empire and continued afterwards to back UK and Western interests.
      The price for this is now being paid at home and abroad. I am writing this review in Helmand, where a few days ago I went on an operation with British and Afghan troops against insurgents whose paymasters, across the border in Pakistan, have been the beneficiaries of US and British largesse.
      Curtis points out that two of the most active Islamist commanders carrying out attacks in Afghanistan, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and Jalalludin Haqqani, had particularly close contacts with the UK in the past. Hekmatyar met Margaret Thatcher in Downing Street when he was a favourite of MI6 and the CIA in the war against the Russians. Haqqani, while not the “Taliban’s overall military commander fighting the British” as Curtis says (he runs his own network parallel to the Taliban), was viewed as a highly useful tool in that conflict.
      The Western use of the Mujaheddin as proxy fighters is well documented. It resulted in the spawning of al-Qa’ida, the spread of international terrorism, and the empowering of ISI, the Pakistani secret police, who became their sponsors. Curtis examines the lesser known by-products of this jihad: the dispatch of Afghan Islamist veterans, with the connivance of Britain and the US, to the wars in the Balkans and the former Soviet republics in central Asia, and ethnic Muslim areas of China. Vast sums of money from the West’s great ally, Saudi Arabia, helped fund the Reagan administration’s clandestine war in support of repressive military juntas in Latin America while, at the same time, buttressing the aggressive Wahabi faith embraced by many terrorist groups.
      The use of hardline Islam by the West was particularly prevalent at the time of the Cold War. In many instances, however, the targets for destabilisation were not Communist regimes but leaders who had adopted left-wing policies deemed to pose a threat to Western influence and interests.
      The UK attempted to combat “virus of Arab nationalism”, after Gamal Abdel Nasser came to power in Egypt and nationalised the Suez Canal, by forging links with the Muslim Brotherhood, an organisation involved in terrorism. The nationalisation of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company by the democratically elected Iranian government of Mohammed Mossadeq led to a British-American organised coup which was facilitated by Ayatollah Seyyed Kashani, one of whose followers was the young Ruhollah Khomeini. In Indonesia, the removal of Ahmed Sukarno in another military coup by the UK-US was carried out with the help of Darul Islam. Its followers went on to massacre socialists and trade unionists.
      In each of these cases the clandestine backing of Britain and the US strengthened Islamist groups at the expense of secular bodies and moderate Muslims. These groups then went to form terrorist groups whom the West would later have to confront in the “War on Terror”. . .

      ENTIRE BOOK REVIEW – http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/secret-affairs-by-mark-curtis-2038691.html

    • JLewisDickerson on March 3, 2016, 8:17 pm

      P.P.P.P.S. FINALLY, SEE: “The CIA and The Muslim Brotherhood: How the CIA Set The Stage for September 11” (Martin A. Lee – Razor Magazine 2004)

      [EXCERPTS] The CIA often works in mysterious ways – and so it was with this little-known cloak-and-dagger caper that set the stage for extensive collaboration between US intelligence and Islamic extremists. The genesis of this ill-starred alliance dates back to Egypt in the mid-1950s, when the CIA made discrete overtures to the Muslim Brotherhood, the influential Sunni fundamentalist movement that fostered Islamic militancy throughout the Middle East. What started as a quiet American flirtation with political Islam became a Cold War love affair on the sly – an affair that would turn out disastrously for the United States. Nearly all of today’s radical Islamic groups, including al-Qaeda, trace their lineage to the Brotherhood. . .
      . . . For many years, the American espionage establishment had operated on the assumption that Islam was inherently anti-communist and therefore could be harnessed to facilitate US objectives. American officials viewed the Muslim Brotherhood as “a secret weapon” in the shadow war against the Soviet Union and it’s Arab allies, according to Robert Baer, a retired CIA case officer who was right in the thick of things in the Middle East and Central Asia during his 21 year career as a spy. In “Sleeping with the Devil”, a book he wrote after quitting the CIA Baer explains how the United States “made common cause with the Brothers” and used them “to do our dirty work in Yemen, Afghanistan and plenty of other places”.
      This covert relationship; unraveled when the Cold War ended, whereupon an Islamic Frankenstein named Osama bin Laden lurched into existence. . .

      SOURCE – http://ce399fascism.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/the-cia-and-the-muslim-brotherhood-how-the-cia-set-the-stage-for-september-11-martin-a-lee-razor-magazine-2004/

  7. Kay24 on March 3, 2016, 8:57 pm

    These pro Israel neocons must be running around shi* scared. In Hillary they have a staunch supporter of Israel, the usual American politician who acts like Israel must always be supported right or wrong, mostly wrong. With Trump nothing is certain, and although he has some zionist attributes like being anti Muslim and arrogant, no one knows exactly what he may do when it comes to Israel, because he is not interested in those shekels. An interesting situation, and it seems someone slept at the wheel, because this has gone beyond the control of the zionist minions in the US, who usually by now has inserted themselves into our politics, and apart from desperate Hillary who is willing to sleep with the Devil to win, they are dealing with an unknown, dangerous entity called Drumpf. Things are not funny anymore.

  8. Rusty Pipes on March 3, 2016, 9:57 pm

    Not to mention that the Republican candidate running closest behind Trump, Ted Cruz, is universally despised by his Republican colleagues in the Senate. Business Republicans have often been willing to pull behind a Right-wing Christian for the good of the party; but they’ll have a hard time rallying behind Cruz.

  9. Bandolero on March 4, 2016, 12:29 am

    The Trump campaign just put a well-written foreign policy statement on it’s website, saying Senator Jeff Sessions will become Chairman of Mr. Trump’s National Security Advisory Committee, and outlining Trump’s foreign policy:

    … We need to understand the limits of our ability to intervene successfully in other nations. It is time for a healthy dose of foreign policy realism. In the Middle East, this means forming partnerships based on shared interests, not merely overthrowing regimes in the dangerous attempt to plant democracies. … A national-interest foreign policy, combined with a military second to none, stands in contrast to interventionist ideas that could enmesh us further in the region’s chaos. After over a decade of war and conflict, this country has a host of smart, experienced, and proven leaders. That wisdom must be sought. These meetings will be the beginning of a process that Mr. Trump has called for and which he believes must result in a clear and realistic bipartisan global strategy that will guide our nation for years to come.

    Source: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-announces-senator-sessions-to-serve-as-chairman-of-national

    Clever move, good statement. I think that’s what all the fuzz is about. The Israel lobby must be mad as hell with this.

    Trump has with one person he enlisted and one statement given a lot of substance to his foreign policy position and he is clearly going to run to the left of Hillary Clinton on foreign policy, though he can easily bill that non-interventionism as “truely conservative.”

    • Sibiriak on March 4, 2016, 1:28 am

      [Trump:]… overthrowing regimes in the dangerous attempt to plant democracies.
      —————-

      That’s the Big Lie, of course. The real aim was never to spread democracy.

      It is time for a healthy dose of foreign policy realism.

      This cuts both ways when it come to Israel/Palestine. It means U.S. policy should not be guided by any moral imperative to seek justice for the Palestinians. If it’s in the U.S. “national interest” to help them, fine, if not, screw ’em.

      • echinococcus on March 4, 2016, 4:53 am

        “It is time for a healthy dose of foreign policy realism.”
        This cuts both ways when it come to Israel/Palestine. It means U.S. policy should not be guided by any moral imperative to seek justice for the Palestinians. If it’s in the U.S. “national interest” to help them, fine, if not, screw ’em.

        Well said, Sibiriak.

        This is precisely what makes Trump a “lesser evil” than either Clinton II or Bernie Sanders.

        A lot of people are, inexplicably, into lesser evil voting.

      • Atlantaiconoclast on March 5, 2016, 10:40 am

        But here is the important thing: Once the case for American interest is made, Israel is done, for it will lose support from the US once the public in the US realizes the damage Israel has inflicted on our nation. So it seems selfish, but it is the way to change policy. Americans rarely care about other people, especially ones that look and worship in a different way.

  10. Theo on March 4, 2016, 8:01 am

    What we need in the USA is a strong third party to stop this the winner takes all system. Should a party do not receive a bit over 50% of the votes, then it must look for a partner to form a government, as one can see any given time in Europe. This may not make governing easier, but it will stop parties usurping the full power.

    As in any business, a third party must start small in local politics to establish a reputation and political basis, corner positions like a mayer of a city, congressman, governor, etc. It takes years to have a strong base and finances for a presidential campagne.
    According to my estimate, all american third parties, including the present Green Party, fail, because they go for the top position without having a real political support in the nation. Dr. Steiner is a nice person, however who knows her? She should run for local positions, like a mayer of Watertown, city councellor, etc. to collect valuable experience in this dirty world of politics.

  11. traintosiberia on March 4, 2016, 9:28 am

    Neocons are slowly inserting themselves in the affairs of the muslim and of Islam. They are trying to replicate the past success. Having done so wonderfully well by successfully claiming the central position of both the political parties (Democrat and Republican ) ,of both countries (Soviet and USA ) in recent past ,they see no reason that they couldn’t do it again with Arab,Muslim,and Islam. Trump has given them the opening just as the successful Hizbullah fighters gave them an opportunity of becoming the spokesperson of Saudi Gulf monarchies .

    Like Socialist of the eastern Europe and Russia ,like Democrat and GOP , muslims are being molded by the neo cons hoping to turn the conflicts between the Neocon and the civilization into a fight between Islam and Western nationalism.

  12. amigo on March 4, 2016, 9:57 am

    Interesting article by Chemi Shalev on Haaretz on how Trump is demolishing the USA /Israel love fest and alienating the evangelicals from Israel.

    The article begins with.

    “In their Super Tuesday speeches, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio tried to use an Israel hammer to bash Donald Trump. Cruz sneeringly lambasted him for saying he would remain “neutral” while Rubio trounced Trump for trying to stay “impartial”, as his audience booed accordingly. And Trump? Trump was racking up victories, amassing delegates and laughing all the way to the top of the Republican presidential field.

    In this way, the New York billionaire is decimating the conventional wisdom, one of many, that in 2016, total and unconditional support for Israel is a prerequisite for any aspiring GOP candidate wishing to run for president; that such a pledge of allegiance to Israel, in general, and to Benjamin Netanyahu, in particular, is a threshold requirement for gaining the support of Evangelicals, who set the tone during primary season; and that the flow of sympathy for Israel from liberal Democrats to conservative Republicans is inevitable, perhaps even desirable, and in any case unstoppable. ” haaretz

    http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.706970

    It,s worth a read.About 20 average paras.

    • Kay24 on March 4, 2016, 10:49 am

      An interesting article indeed. I was hoping we would have a candidate who was not an Israel firster, did not bow down to the big nut from Tel Aviv, and does not need rich American Jews to win, but unfortunately did not bargain to find one in Don Drumpf.

      • Theo on March 4, 2016, 11:20 am

        In politics sometimes we must take what we get. If you want what you wrote above, then Trump is the only candidate that will come near to your wishes. Maybe! There is a german proverb that says: “one will not eat as hot as man cooks.” Once and if Trump get to the WH, I am sure he will change his tune, gets more statesman like.

      • MRW on March 4, 2016, 1:54 pm

        @Theo,

        What’s the German version of that proverb? I mean, in the German language.

      • YoniFalic on March 4, 2016, 2:35 pm

        There are many versions of this proverb.

        Nichts wird so heiß gegessen, wie es gekocht wird.

      • Kay24 on March 4, 2016, 10:18 pm

        Theo, unfortunately your theory sounds naive, to say the least. You see a totally crude, ignorant, lying, loudmouth, arrogant, racist candidate, so full of himself, and absolutely unqualified to lead this country, and no way will I vote expecting and hoping that he will “change”.

        I do not think any American should even think of taking that risk. Don Drumpf will be worse than GWB, and that is saying a lot.

      • inbound39 on March 5, 2016, 2:18 am

        Kinda got me the same way Kay….lol. I would never have guessed Trump would cause this situation nor this crisis for Zionists. Lol…..asleep at the wheel indeed. They cannot even be sure of continued AID or New Jets if Trump gets in…..which now ,in some ways I hope he does. Trump needs to be given enough time to destroy the Zionists grip on the American Government. He has made an excellent start. He may not be what we wanted but somehow he is turning into something that is needed. Netanyahu and co have no guarantees now and that must have them losing sleep.

  13. Tom Callaghan on March 4, 2016, 1:34 pm

    Trump incurred the enmity of the Adelson wing of the Israel Lobby when he said he wanted to
    be an “honest broker” between Israel and the Palestinians.

    The Adelson wing much prefers to hear that “the Palestinians are an invented people”
    (Gingrich) or that “the Palestinians have an inferior culture” (Romney) or “we are you and you
    are us” (Netanyahu).

    Anybody who is so far off the reservation as to suggest “fairness” in dealings between Israel
    and the Palestinians is, in the opinion of the Adelson wing, not qualified for public office.

    http://www.wednesdayswars.com

  14. Atlantaiconoclast on March 4, 2016, 2:19 pm

    First, if you look at the entire quote from which Romney took one statement of Trump’s out of context, it is clear that Trump was not advocating letting ISIS take down Assad.

    But regardless, much of what Trump says DOES cause me to cringe and gives me pause. His rants on the Iran deal and his ban on Muslims are pretty outrageous. HOWEVER, given the dominant meme in the media about terrorism being such a profound danger for America, Trump’s arguments in relation to torture and Islam have some logic. Neocon media loves to amp up fear about terror, then pretends it cares about preventing torture and Islamophobia.

    Trump gets my vote, despite his many obnoxious statements, because he does support US sovereignty, and because he has repudiated W and highlighted the false case behind the Iraq War. For that, he is my hero. This will have profound effects for years to come in the GOP. I just read Donald Trump’s statement on his hire of Senator Jeff Sessions as his national security adviser, and it pointedly rejects the sort of interventionism that has been in vogue over the last 25 years. Hallelujah!

  15. Atlantaiconoclast on March 4, 2016, 2:31 pm

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-announces-senator-sessions-to-serve-as-chairman-of-national

    It all but disavows neo-conservatism!

    DONALD J. TRUMP ANNOUNCES SENATOR SESSIONS AS CHAIRMAN OF NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE

    Senator Sessions to Provide Strategic Counsel to Mr. Trump on Foreign Policy and Homeland Security

    (New York, NY) March 3rd, 2016 – Today Donald J. Trump announced Senator Jeff Sessions, who has advised the GOP frontrunner on issues such as trade and immigration and endorsed Mr. Trump on Sunday in Alabama, will serve as Chairman of Mr. Trump’s National Security Advisory Committee. Senator Sessions has been on the Armed Services Committee for almost 20 years and is Chairman of the Strategic Forces Subcommittee.

    Mr. Trump stated, “It is an honor to have Jeff as a member of the team. I have such great respect for him and I look forward to working with him on the issues most important to Americans.”

    Senator Sessions added, “I am grateful for the opportunity to recommend and facilitate discussions among exceptional and experienced American military and diplomatic leaders to share insight and advice with Donald Trump, regardless of their political views. Mr. Trump and the American people know our country needs a clear-eyed foreign policy rooted in the national interest. We need to understand the limits of our ability to intervene successfully in other nations. It is time for a healthy dose of foreign policy realism. In the Middle East, this means forming partnerships based on shared interests, not merely overthrowing regimes in the dangerous attempt to plant democracies. We must also combat the refugee crisis by creating regional safe zones, rather than depopulating the region by migration. The only path to long-term stability and resolution of this humanitarian crisis for the United States and our European allies is to work towards the safe return of migrants to their home countries, as Mr. Trump has noted. This strategy will also protect our own national security.”

    Sessions continued, “A national-interest foreign policy, combined with a military second to none, stands in contrast to interventionist ideas that could enmesh us further in the region’s chaos. After over a decade of war and conflict, this country has a host of smart, experienced, and proven leaders. That wisdom must be sought. These meetings will be the beginning of a process that Mr. Trump has called for and which he believes must result in a clear and realistic bipartisan global strategy that will guide our nation for years to come.”

    Mr. Trump will continue to announce members of his National Security Advisory Committee and other advisors on key issues over the next few weeks.

    • inbound39 on March 5, 2016, 2:37 am

      With the refugee problem what is needed is attention being focused on those forces causing and creating refugees. Israel has caused and created millions of the refugees we currently see by destabilizing their neighbours and supplying arms to insurgents that they have assisted to create. Israel’s Occupation of Palestine has created millions of refugees. Its attacks on Lebanon and Syria have created more. The World needs to treat the causes instead of slapping bandaids on the symptoms.

      • Atlantaiconoclast on March 7, 2016, 1:39 am

        Agreed. I wish the Free Palestine movement would make the intentional PNAC/Israeli destabilization of the ME a very prominent discussion.

  16. David Doppler on March 4, 2016, 2:55 pm

    The WSJ post-debate poll of “who won?” shows Trump 61, Kasich 18, Cruz 12, Rubio 9. So the sum total effect of all the attacks – by Romney, McCain, Kristol, the whole elite establishment and those who would gather their support – is that those who attack Trump become less popular, at least among those following the race and willing to vote on online polls.

  17. Atlantaiconoclast on March 4, 2016, 3:05 pm

    By the way, Trump just reversed his position on torture! http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/politics/donald-trump-reverses-on-torture/index.html

    More good news about the Trumpster!

  18. lysias on March 4, 2016, 4:33 pm

    Jim Webb just said he won’t vote for Hillary. Webb: ‘I would not vote for Hillary Clinton’:

    Webb said he wasn’t sure whom he’d support for president and said his issue with Clinton was “nothing personal.” He also said he hasn’t ruled out Trump.

    “A certain group of people are seeing him as the only one who has the courage to step forward and say, ‘We’ve got to clear out the stables of the American governmental system right now,'” Webb said.

    He suggested a Trump presidency could be either highly positive or highly negative, while Clinton represented a continuation of the political norm.

    “If you’re voting for Donald Trump, you may get something very good or very bad. If you’re voting for Hillary Clinton, you’re going to be getting the same thing,” Webb said.

  19. Atlantaiconoclast on March 5, 2016, 10:42 am

    I find these British know it alls so annoying.

  20. stopaipac on March 6, 2016, 9:17 pm

    This implies that somehow there might be some redeeming social value to Trump’s candidacy. I think there is none, except for perhaps a small exception i will explain below. I think Trump is reinforcing neocon lies and racism, which is, after all, what makes war possible. Trump, with the same passion and insanity as rubio and cruz, wants to “build-up” America’s military, that he says is “depleted”. He wants to torture. He wants non-Muslims to hate Muslims. and immigrants. and those that support rights for Black people. and disabled. He hates Palestinians with the same passion as Rubio/Cruz… and blames them for their oppression.
    ““I was with a very prominent Israeli the other day. (He) says (a peace agreement is) impossible because the other side has been trained from the time they are children to hate Jewish people.”– Trump
    Every four years Weiss daydreams that some racist republican portends end of neocons, first with Ron Paul and now with Trump. They really have no redeeming social or political value.
    The real reason that Romney et.al. oppose Trump is that Trump is breaking the rules… what are supposed to be subtle dog-whistles are becoming screams and shouts of overt racism. that hurts the republican brand-name…. and that may be the only exception to what is really a nightmare of american politics.

    • on March 7, 2016, 1:57 am

      “The real reason that Romney et.al. oppose Trump is that Trump is breaking the rules… what are supposed to be subtle dog-whistles are becoming screams and shouts of overt racism. that hurts the republican brand-name…. and that may be the only exception to what is really a nightmare of american politics.”

      Yup I agree with this…Phil is starting to lose it thinking Trump is his long awaited savior against the evil Zionist overlords. If he wins the presidency, AIPAC would just move over the left and lay low while Trump stirs up all kinda domestic mayhem and when he does this, Israel its lobby or the Palestinians would be the last thing the average people would be able to care about. No one on the left would be able to continue their ongoing grassroots campaign for raising awareness of the Palestinian struggle, and the crimes of the Israeli state because they would be busy defending themselves and their domestic allies from the onslaught of white supremacists.

      Trump is feeling really good about himself, thinking how smart he is, being able to manipulate these bunch of degenerates to gift him the presidency. I can already see his head on a pike if he does win, because his supporters would not be so happy to find out they’ve been played by this narcissistic idiot.

  21. Atlantaiconoclast on March 7, 2016, 1:43 am

    Racist Republican? These cries of racism are like the boy who cried wolf. The real dog whistles are coming from the Left and their endless war against improper “signaling.” The Left cares more about proper signaling than anything else.

  22. Kathleen on March 8, 2016, 12:06 pm

    Many on the list are partially responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands in the middle east and they accuse Trump of “bigotry” Which of course he is…however their crimes against humanity are far more serious at this point. Surely hope Trump never gets the chance to demonstrate if he is more deadly than the foreign policy that most of the signatories of that letter have supported and pushed hard.

    They are headed Hillary’s way. They know their deadly interest are safe with her…she has very much been a part of pushing that destructive policy in Libya, Syria.

    Do we know of another Dem candidate who has had such a bloody war record? Her horrific decisions have basically been off the table during the debates. Shameful

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