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Elie Wiesel might have been the  most moral man to have come out of the Jewish people in the last thousand years, but at the same time, he was also inarguably an enemy to the Palestinian people. That should not be controversial. The late Israeli politician Yossi Sarid called Wiesel an “ethnic cleanser in a prayer shawl” over his relationship with the settlement organization Elad in East Jerusalem.

Peter Beinart tried to open Wiesel’s eyes and heart.

“Again and again, Wiesel takes refuge in the Israel of his imagination, using it to block out the painful reckoning that might come from scrutinizing Israel as it actually is. “I can’t believe that Israeli soldiers murdered people or shot children. It just can’t be,” Wiesel said in 2010. But these are not questions of faith.

It therefore should be entirely understandable why people on the other side of the Israeli-Palestinian divide, notably Max Blumenthal, the son of longtime Hillary Clinton confidante Sidney Blumenthal, would not partake in the hagiography of Wiesel going on after his death.

But “understandable” it was not. Pick your poison.

 

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What is going on here? Why is it so difficult to understand that Elie Wiesel cannot be sacred to people whose sympathies lie with the Palestinians? That concept should not be so challenging to comprehend.  Why is it so impossible to see things from a pro-Palestinian perspective? It doesn’t mean you have to agree with the Palestinian position. Just “role play,” and try to empathize.  A pro Palestinian perspective does not ipso facto mean that it is motivated by an “anti Israel and anti Jewish perspective.” They are two separate things. Even though it undoubtedly hurts Avi Mayer’s feelings that these  people don’t show deference to his religious icons, this particular icon– Weisel– was an enemy to the Palestinian people. The critiques of Wiesel are made by “proud” Jews as well: Peter Beinart is not carrying around a grudge against Elie Wiesel. And yet he still viewed  Wiesel’s “faith” in Israeli “innocence” to be Wiesel taking “refuge in the Israel of his imagination.” Because Beinart wisely insists that these are not “questions of faith.”  All you need to do is turn on the television these days — this video of an Israeli medic killing an incapacitated Palestinian under occupation — or read the newspaper — this story of a Palestinian boy killed in a hail of bullets inside a car, by “mistake”, and again inside the occupation.

There are a lot of reasons for this blind Jewish ethnocentrism, and inability to role-play, which I will be focusing on in future pieces. But I’d like to use the Hillary Clinton statement on Wiesel yesterday to show the egregious role American politicians play in this phenomenon.

It doesn’t take politicians long to figure out where the money is: Just try to talk as crazy as the craziest Jew and watch the money pour in. You can see this dynamic play out at every AIPAC conference. This year the “progressive” candidate Hillary Clinton’s speech at AIPAC sounded more like Rabbi Meir Kahane than Eleanor Roosevelt. What is the message these ethnocentrics at AIPAC get over and over and over from the objective non-Jews: oh they “understand,” Israel is surrounded by the Palestinians who are trying to drive them into the sea and finish the job Hitler started. Every ridiculous tribal fantasy is catered to.

And therein lies the rub. If Hillary doesn’t condemn Max Blumenthal by name for his Wiesel comments, Trump might very well  pounce and prove that “crooked Hillary’s real loyalty is to the Jewish kapo rather than to the Jewish concentration camp inmate.”

The result of all this is that Hillary Clinton felt it necessary to put out a statement condemning Max Blumenthal by name. With all due respect to Max Blumenthal, I don’t think  his name gets such  high poll numbers  when Democrat voters are polled, as to what they wish Hillary spent more time on.

But again what is the message? It’s that your Jewish flawed tribal saint Elie Wiesel is an “objective” saint: a saint to all mankind and not just to Jews. In fact a personal “hero” as well to Hillary Clinton! And anyone that questions Elie Wiesel’s  sainthood is going to have to deal with Hillary herself. The inevitable result is the witchhunt against Blumenthal, with Hillary of course taking the side of the most crazy. And of course you don’t have to be a mindreader to know what Clinton’s big donor Haim Saban (whose “one issue” is Israel) thinks about our friend Max Blumenthal.

There is another issue at play here too: why Clinton felt she needed her spokesman to mention Max Blumenthal’s name. Jeffrey Goldberg had been sending some shots across Hillary’s bow about Sidney Blumenthal in Jeffrey Goldberg’s inimitable way. He was demanding some action on Sidney! And Jeffrey doesn’t take no for an answer. The last thing Hillary Clinton needs right now is Jeffrey Goldberg causing trouble. Plus he is doing such a fantastic  job with his Trump coverage. Condemning Max Blumenthal by name should calm him down. He should behave. We both know how desperately he wants to get into the Clinton White House. 

 

How big an enemy was Hillary Clinton’s hero Elie Wiesel to the Palestinian people?  How about we let Wiesel’s supporters shed some light on Wiesel’s thinking.

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Let’s try to unpack this tweet. First notice it sounds like an old Jeffrey Goldberg slogan when he was running with the Jewish Defense League. Also the wink wink quality to the tweet. Like it’s only for the smart Jews to understand, not for the stupid goyim. But before publicizing a tweet like that, maybe you  should have listened to your “Rabbi,”  Jeffrey Goldberg who has warned you that there are “smart Jews” like me around who  are “part of a tiny minority of Jews who believe that the destruction of Israel will bring them the approval of non-Jews, which they crave.” (In my own defense, there is this one particular shiksa “I crave” and am trying to get the “approval of” that might very well be worth the destruction of more than a few countries, though admittedly, far less worthy than Israel.)

Back to that tweet.  

Some criticize Wiesel as a fraud for failing to apply the lessons of the Holocaust to the Palestinians.

So people like Max Blumenthal think Wiesel is a “fraud” because when it came to Palestine he was an “ethnic cleanser,” as charged by Yossi Sarid, and at best a “bystander,” according to Beinart. It is worth quoting Beinart in full again.

“Again and again, Wiesel takes refuge in the Israel of his imagination, using it to block out the painful reckoning that might come from scrutinizing Israel as it actually is. “I can’t believe that Israeli soldiers murdered people or shot children. It just can’t be,” Wiesel said in 2010. But these are not questions of faith.

Those who are concerned with Palestinian rights believe that it is too not much to expect more from a Nobel peace prize winner, some of whose most famous quotes are:

We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.

and

There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.

and

Wherever men and women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must – at that moment – become the center of the universe.

These critics were only asking Wiesel to “practice what he preached.”

And the response to this very reasonable sounding request is what? Again, that tweet:

“Maybe that’s exactly what he did.”

Pagano is saying that Elie Wiesel’s “lesson from the Holocaust”  is that the Palestinians are somehow connected to the Nazis or implicated in the Holocaust, and so standard  Nobel Laureate no-no’s like ethnic cleansing, do not apply in this instance. Do you guys ever wonder how all very convenient this all looks? If the world will let you get away with it, why not even implicate the Palestinian in the original idea of the Holocaust. That would really be a neat trick. But think of the dividends if it succeeded.  It’s even worth exculpating Hitler. Serbia would have paid a fortune for your PR people  a few years back. (For a more in depth look look at the “lesson of the Holocaust” see my piece on Netanyahu and General Golan )

So if I have this right, Hillary wants Palestinians and those fighting for their cause like Max Blumenthal to admit to being Nazis. Because that  is how Israel and its supporters are every day justifying its actions against them. And when these people reject  the outrageous “blood libel”  as Blumenthal did, well guess what – you’re a Nazi, too!

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It’s really not as easy being a self hating Jew as it used to be. 

Back to the the Pagano tweet and the Jamie Kirchick retweet. What exactly are these two saying? Do they even know? What would they say if asked to explain, in what way Wiesel believes Palestinians resemble Nazis? They would no  doubt talk a lot  and maybe use a few big words and say nothing.

But there is at least one pampered benighted ethnocentric who is less reserved. Who feels strongly Jews should be a lot more aggressive and forcefully spell out the Palestinian= Nazi/ISIS analogy. Because we Jews have nothing to be afraid of anymore, says Bret Stephens of the Wall Street Journal.

Rare is it in history that we’ve been blessed to live in a country where we can say anything we want and actually get away with it. And it is a scandal, it seems to me, if we fail to live up to the promise of our American citizenship to do all we can to assure the survival of the Jewish state and the Jewish people.

And if in Bret Stephens’s tribal ethical code, “survival” demands this–

Palestinians have been seized by their present blood lust—by a communal psychosis in which plunging knives into the necks of Jewish women, children, soldiers and civilians is seen as a religious and patriotic duty, a moral fulfillment….Above all, it’s time to give hatred its due….  Palestinians are in the midst of a campaign to knife Jews to death, one at a time. This is psychotic. It is evil. To call it anything less is to serve as an apologist, and an accomplice.

You sure better hope that this video doesn’t turn up.

Bret Stephens gives  the most moral army in the world an EXCUSE to shoot this young woman, with her whole life ahead of her, without asking themselves if they NEED to shoot this young woman with her whole life ahead of her. It is very important that Hillary Clinton realize that what starts off ” innocently” as demanding  Max Blumenthal  show more respect to Elie Wiesel ends up with having to see the young woman in this video as a Nazi/ISIS member.

Mrs. Clinton, I urge you to keep them at arm’s length. I understand if you won’t  take my word for how toxic they are. Why don’t you ask the much more reliable, and monklike Robert Wright about your new friends. This is what he wrote about them when they defamed former defense Secretary Chuck Hagel:

Still, these smears have been hugely counterproductive from a truly pro-Zionist standpoint. What you’re seeing now is one of the final desperate spasms of a group that has already helped destroy the thing it loves, and will probably destroy a few other things before finally, like Joseph McCarthy, destroying itself and receding mercifully into the pages of history.

Strong words. Mrs Clinton, why don’t you send over one of your minions  to Mr. Wright and ask him to explain what he means here. Because more and more, thanks to you, it sure looks like they have a few “desperate spasms” left.

 

 

Yakov Hirsch
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  1. silamcuz
    silamcuz
    July 8, 2016, 11:29 am

    This article made me more angry than anything Hillary has ever said, and she has said some pretty dumb offensive things. Who the hell is Yaakov Hirsh and what qualification does he have to advise the most experienced, war-hardened female politician in the Western world on anything?

    How much of a coward do you have to be to target a progressive female politician with no loyalties to Israel or Zionism as a safe outlet for your frustrations, instead of being a man and confronting Zionists and Zionist agents directly?

    • Donald
      Donald
      July 8, 2016, 12:39 pm

      So much for silamcuz the alleged hater of Western imperialism, here the defender of Clinton, the friend of Kissinger, defender of Israeli war crimes, supporter of the invasion of Iraq.

      Some of your posts make sense and others, like this one, are incoherent nonsense. I’d wonder if this was intentional except I don’t really care that much.

      Yakov’s post was great. If anything he’s a bit too generous to Clinton, who in my opinion supports Israel because she genuinely thinks the way many Israel defenders think–we should be bombing the Other because we are the good guys, they are the bad guys and if innocents die it’s all their fault.

      • annie
        annie
        July 8, 2016, 1:07 pm

        trolls getting top comment. let’s move on.

      • Donald
        Donald
        July 8, 2016, 1:13 pm

        Good idea.

      • Rusty Pipes
        Rusty Pipes
        July 8, 2016, 7:06 pm

        She genuinely thinks that it’s good to be the queen, no matter how many donkeys she has to satisfy to get to the throne.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 8, 2016, 7:36 pm

        “let’s move on.”

        Good idea.
        His ‘fishing’ is lowest thing I’ve ever seen here.

      • silamcuz
        silamcuz
        July 11, 2016, 10:53 pm

        Yakov’s post was great. If anything he’s a bit too generous to Clinton, who in my opinion supports Israel because she genuinely thinks the way many Israel defenders think–

        What’s your proof? What has Hillary done through her own executive power only, to help Israel?

        Again, I’m not saying Hillary have not co-opted the pro-Israel political mentality existing in the political arena of the country, but I just don’t see why target her specifically? As progressive and kind as Obama is, even he appears to put on a pro-Israel facade when he is dealing with any conflict or foreign policy issue of the Middle East.

        There are but a few politicians who are openly pro-Palestine and anti-Occupation. But none to my knowledge are anywhere close to the power and influence needed to actually do anything about it, at least not until the shift in public opinion occurs.

  2. JWalters
    JWalters
    July 8, 2016, 6:55 pm

    I see only two possible explanations for Jeffrey Goldberg’s complete ignoring of half the story in the Palestine-Israel conflict.

    a) He is a Jewish supremacist bigot. This could be due to extensive propaganda as a child.

    b) He is an agent of Zionism profiteers, and likes the money.

    c) Both of the above.

    As for Hillary, it seems to me her Zionist funders would naturally require her to disavow any possible influence of Max explicitly and emphatically, given her relationship with Max’s father.

    I doubt Hillary is a Jewish supremacist, but merely an agent of the Zionism profiteers.

    • Yakov Hirsch
      Yakov Hirsch
      July 9, 2016, 3:34 am

      Stay with me Jwalters. You’re going to know everything about Jeffrey Goldberg very shortly.
      Think of me as Jeffrey Goldberg’s long time “Shrink”who got really really pissed off at Jeffrey. And Mondoweiss offered him a “soap box”

      Jeffrey Goldberg, if you beg Andrew Sullivan’s forgiveness in public for the way you spoke about him in this article, http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/02/leon-wieseltier-andrew-sullivan-and-anti-semitism/35682/ I might go a little easier on you. But thats as good as its going to get.

      • JWalters
        JWalters
        July 9, 2016, 4:34 pm

        The Goldberg article to which you link is not remotely in the same league as the articles in Mondoweiss. I would expect something of article length to have evidence and reasoning. But Goldberg’s is nothing but assumption and name calling. For example, he asserts the Israelis have an “excellent” case without even a hint of evidence. It’s sad to see the level to which The Atlantic has sunk. (Who owns it?)

        The Wieseltier piece to which Goldberg links was one of the most vacuous, sloppy attempts to make a case I’ve ever seen. In the world of science or law it would be an F minus. (First it would have to be stripped of the irrelevant froth, which would be almost everything.)

        For writers who are allegedly American intellectuals, these pieces are absolute trash. If this is the best they’ve got, it’s no wonder the Israelis resort so often to bullying, angry rants.

    • Yakov Hirsch
      Yakov Hirsch
      July 9, 2016, 4:20 am

      Get your popcorn.

      Truly, whoever came up with “Revenge is a dish best served cold” could have had whats about to happen to Goldberg ,in mind. Someone needs to get Andrew Sullivan’s attention. Boy is he going to enjoy my Goldberg series. But Andrew should not expect any Christian charity on Goldberg’s behalf from me . Old testament rules for Jeffrey. שתי עיניים תחת עין like back in our JDL days.

      • JWalters
        JWalters
        July 9, 2016, 4:39 pm

        I look forward to your story. Food for thought – objective justice is more convincing than emotion-laced revenge.

    • Yakov Hirsch
      Yakov Hirsch
      July 9, 2016, 4:32 am

      Jeffrey Goldberg is the head of the snake and I’m going to cut it off, and let the chips fall where they may.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 9, 2016, 2:14 pm

        “Jeffrey Goldberg…”

        This is no bluff, right?
        You’ve got the straight inside flush and an ace up your sleeve?

      • Stephen Shenfield
        Stephen Shenfield
        July 9, 2016, 5:33 pm

        I didn’t immediately grasp why cutting off the head of a snake should make chips fall, but then I realized that the snake must be clinging to a tree. Are you talking about the snake and tree in the Garden of Eden? If so I should warn you that it has been declared off limits for humans.

      • Yakov Hirsch
        Yakov Hirsch
        July 9, 2016, 7:02 pm

        Mooser, I got “the nuts.”

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 9, 2016, 7:43 pm

        “Mooser, I got “the nuts.”

        Well, get crackin’! When you’re ready, unlimber up the old vouchsafer and let fly!

      • Yakov Hirsch
        Yakov Hirsch
        July 9, 2016, 10:04 pm

        Stephen Shenfield, sorry for the confusion. “Chips fall where they may” is a poker expression. I have a large bet with a poker playing friend who is following my new writing career with great interest. We bet that Jeffrey Goldberg is going to be fired by the Atlantic magazine before the end of the year. I win a lot of money if that happens. My friend believes i have no shot. But I think he knows deep down im going to win. I never lose to him. I think hes even secretly rooting for me even though its really going to hurt his pocket when he loses. Let the “chips” “fall where they may” like in my pocket, after i cut off the snake= Goldberg fired from Atlantic and applies to dental school.
        To give you a sense of what my friend is like

        “Police shooting people all over the united states for absolutely no reason all day long on television, you go to israel find someone was shot for stabbing a solider? I sniff the anisemitisim.

        My friend is teasing. I taught him well.

      • Yakov Hirsch
        Yakov Hirsch
        July 10, 2016, 9:33 pm

        Mooser, This
        ” Watch out Uri, she’s taller than both of us!”
        Made up for a lot.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 11, 2016, 10:42 am

        “Made up for a lot.”

        I’m sorry, “made up for a lot” of what? What is it I have to make up for?

  3. jd65
    jd65
    July 8, 2016, 7:57 pm

    Full disclosure before I ask my question (of Yakov): I haven’t read this whole article. As everyone here knows, we have to pick and choose what we read as there are a zillion articles on this subject everyday.

    My question is: What is the decision referred to in the article’s title?

    • Yakov Hirsch
      Yakov Hirsch
      July 8, 2016, 10:31 pm

      jd65, Is it ok if i get back to you on that? I too am in dialogue with a couple of writers, in order they convince me to read their articles. If they don’t succeed, I will have the extra time necessary to make my case to you as to why you should read mine. Yakov

    • Yakov Hirsch
      Yakov Hirsch
      July 8, 2016, 11:21 pm

      Ok Jd65. All these hotshot writers refused to answer me so I have time to answer now . The decision in short, is how involved Hillary Clinton is going decide to be with the neocons. Hope that helps you make your decision. Yakov

      • jd65
        jd65
        July 9, 2016, 12:30 pm

        Ok Jd65. All these hotshot writers refused to answer me so I have time to answer now . The decision in short, is how involved Hillary Clinton is going decide to be with the neocons. Hope that helps you make your decision. Yakov

        Yo Yakov! Your reply is much appreciated. I assumed that was the decision in question. But, as you likely know, sometimes writers don’t write their own headlines. And sometimes headlines are written w/ an eye toward enticing readers more than anything else. I scanned the article for the words “decision & decide” to see what was being decided, and didn’t find them, so…

        Anyway… I personally feel that Hillary has made that decision, in no uncertain terms, many years ago. Possibly decades. There’s no decision forthcoming. No sliding scale of “how involved” she may or may not be. She’s fully cooked. Completely in the tank. She’s an honorary PNAC signatory as far as I’m concerned. As far as I can see, regarding Israel/Palestine, there is no real space between her and the likes of Kristol, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rumsfeld, Podhoretz, etc.

        And I will get around to reading your article. Writers who actually respond to readers’ comments are relatively rare. Even if this ain’t the New York Times… :)

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 9, 2016, 2:36 pm

        “And I will get around to reading your article.”

        I have that problem, too, not getting around to reading stuff. I’ve found that lots of sweet coffee, ashes, and flakes of various things spilled on my keyboard helped a lot.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 9, 2016, 2:59 pm

        “there is no real space between her and the likes of Kristol, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rumsfeld, Podhoretz, etc.”

        All men.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 9, 2016, 3:31 pm

        Mooser,

        All men, like Victoria Kaplan-Nuland who actively screwed the EU on her phone, Midge Decter, Samantha whatchamacallher, the other Rice…

      • jd65
        jd65
        July 9, 2016, 4:11 pm

        @ Mooser: All men. Uhh… Yeah. I listed those guys because I’d used PNAC as an example. But I could just as well have said I don’t think there’s any real difference Jeane Kirkpatrick, Golda Meir, Tzipi Livni, Kirsten Gillibrand, Jan Schakowsky, etc. & Clinton. Just wanna be clear that I wasn’t making some kind of male/female point. For the love of God let’s not go there…

        Or maybe you just mis-wrote “Amen?”

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 9, 2016, 11:40 pm

        Hilary defers to powerful men, even Repubs (Bush Cheney) and tells other women what to do.
        I’m not a big fan of hers.

  4. eljay
    eljay
    July 8, 2016, 9:53 pm

    Wiesel, Clinton, Mayer, Pagano, Abrams: All are Zio-supremacists; all are hateful and immoral hypocrites who believe that Jews are entitled to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

    Thank gawd for Trump. At least he’s “neutral”. ;-)

  5. echinococcus
    echinococcus
    July 9, 2016, 2:08 pm

    A thousand apologies for saying it, but spare us the usual “liberal” irrelevance:

    she should consider what violent ethnocentric friends she is embracing, and what their extremism is doing to Israel and Palestine

    Do you really believe she hasn’t considered?

    • jd65
      jd65
      July 9, 2016, 4:37 pm

      @ echinococcus: I just read the article and I believe I’m w/ you on the gist of your post (see my earlier post above). But where is your quote from? I don’t see it here. Or is it a kind of abstract of the article?

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 10, 2016, 12:19 am

        jd65,

        Surely it didn’t appear as if it were a response to you. Or did it? I wrote in the virgin “post” box, not in reply.
        The quote is from the blurb on the front page… which somehow hasn’t made it to the article page itself. Strange, passing strange…

      • jd65
        jd65
        July 10, 2016, 12:23 pm

        @ echinococcus: Nope. I didn’t think your post was a response to me :) I was just stating agreement w/ what I thought you were getting at. But even more I was curious about that quote you put into your post since it wasn’t from the article itself. As you say, Strange, passing strange… :) I guess those little write-ups on the main page are by the site’s editors. That’s fine.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 10, 2016, 2:26 pm

        JD65,

        Wouldn’t that mean that at least one of the editors is Pollyanna?

      • jd65
        jd65
        July 10, 2016, 6:08 pm

        echinococcus: I wouldn’t disagree with your “Pollyanna” assertion (ahem… pardon the double negative…). Meaning: I feel that if someone still is of the impression that Hillary Clinton is going to push a U.S. policy that actually, in substance, is in aid of full human rights for Palestinians (including right of return, reconciliation committees, reparations, actual autonomy, accountability for Israeli war criminals, etc…), which said policy would then, of necessity of course, have to go against the segregationist, anti-human rights/anti-international law wishes and policies of the general American Jewish establishment (ie: AIPAC, J Street, ADL, mainstream temple ideology, etc…), Israeli/Netanyahu policy, and all previous U.S. administrations’ policies going back at least 35 years or so, that person either has their head in the sand or simply doesn’t understand what’s been happening.

        So this applies to the pull quote you took from the “main page” intro to this article. And it could also apply to the article itself, as it nearly finishes up with this: “Mrs. Clinton, I urge you to keep them at arm’s length. I understand if you won’t take my word for how toxic they are.” Yakov is writing “them/they” as if the neo-cons and Clinton are strategizing from different playbooks. They’re not. She is they.

        Not really a fan of the article’s opening either: “Elie Wiesel might have been the most moral man to have come out of the Jewish people in the last thousand years…” Uhh… No. Maybe by “might have been” Yakov meant to write “was not?” That’s be a pretty serious typo, though. And yeah, I know. There’s stuff critical of Weisel after that. But that statement as an opening… Blech.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 11, 2016, 12:38 am

        JD65,

        In fact, I thought the blurb was representative of the tone of the article.

  6. Tchoupitoulas
    Tchoupitoulas
    July 9, 2016, 2:14 pm

    Really excellent post Yakov. Being a stupid Goy I am glad you are here to parse Pagano’s tweet, because its meaning is indeed ambiguous, but after turning it over and over in my mind a few times I think your analysis is correct. Pagano could only be saying that one of the lessons of the Holocaust is that Jews must kill people hostile to Jews before Jews themselves get killed. I did not see the explicitness of the link between Palestinians and Nazis in Pagano’s tweet, but of course it is implied.

    This is my second favorite of your posts. Can’t wait to see what else is coming down the pike. The psychoanalysis element of your posts is always fascinating, and the Zio-crazies you write about consistently provide you with fertile subject matter. Keep up the good work!

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 9, 2016, 3:44 pm

      “Pagano could only be saying that one of the lessons of the Holocaust is that Jews must kill people hostile to Jews before Jews themselves get killed.”

      It doesn’t seem very fair, considering there are so many Jews, and so few of everybody else, but it’s the harsh reality of Jewish survival.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 9, 2016, 11:50 pm

        “Theyve already “internalized” that the whole world is one big ethno centric Jew already.”

        200 million (by some estimates, as many as two billion) Jews is not the whole world, but it’s a significant fraction of it!

      • Yakov Hirsch
        Yakov Hirsch
        July 10, 2016, 12:42 am

        Mooser, I will analyse your sense of humor once the world is safe from Jeffrey. Until then when i think your funny will reward you with a bone to chew on thi

        “Suppose the Irish deeming themselves the ‘lost tribe of israel’ had in a fit of irredentism, returned in force and occupied Palestine in 1948 thus inheriting all of the arab world’s hatred that Jews have in fact inherited. Suppose further that the Irish prime minister made the pronouncement that Israeli prime ministers often make after a terrorist attacks “These women and children were killed only because they were Irish” would it not be clear to almost everyone that they had not been killed for their “irishness’ but rather for their behavior for what the arabs believed they had done for their actions for their occupation? How is it that Israel has convinced the world that Israelis were being killed as Jews not as occupiers?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 10, 2016, 12:56 am

        “Until then when i think your funny will reward you with a bone to chew on “

        I’m supposed to be herbiverous, but you’ve got me drooling for red meat. Save the bones for Henry Jones. A piece of Goldberg’s hide would be nice.

    • Yakov Hirsch
      Yakov Hirsch
      July 9, 2016, 9:41 pm

      Yonah, please pay attention. You refereed once inaccurately to something i’ve written as a “rant.” Yonah, now this is a rant.

      The “stupidist Goy” is more aware of the world as it actually is than the “smartest” ethnocentric. From cradle to grave they tell themselves one fairy tale after another about themselves and their people . They then take their fairy tales and try to impose it on the world. That’s what the craziness is about with the Labor party. These nut jobs demand that before every utterance of every labor member, the “moral” thing to do is for them to ask themselves how the most execrable people on earth will find their statements. Say for instance someone like Rabbi Shmuelly Boteech. http://observer.com/2014/08/the-moral-disintegration-of-jimmy-carter/

      These Jews are incapable of living as Jews in the modern world. So why not instead make the modern world live as Jews instead. Let The whole world celebrate Jewish ethnocentrism as a “value” while rejecting it as a “value” for every other people. That’s why you can have the MM video and the Israeli cabinet out doing one another in the defense of a murder without being self conscious AT ALL. Theyve already “internalized” that the whole world is one big ethno centric Jew already. The world has accepted, as Netanyahu constantly puts it, that there is a “larger context.” The “larger context” of having Gods chosen people vs the people of the devil.

      All who care about their country, who care about the world, who care about justice, need to study the twitter feed of @YairRosenberg. He is the progeny of an ideology that is a terrible threat to the world. All the poison is there. Think about how much hatred is created by these tweets. think about his “social construction of reality?” How far removed from actual reality is it? And we are not even allowed to tell them their fucking nuts.. How can a human being like this exist in 2016? How can this man have a job as a journalist telling people whats going on in the world.
      check this one out.
      http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/202290/equating-israel-with-the-nazis
      One morning, as I woke up from unsettling dreams, I found myself transformed in my bed into a monstrous vermin: I found myself agreeing with Gideon Levy.

      Levy, to those who seek sweet refuge in ignorance, is the Haaretz columnist who, being the Savonarola of self-hating Jews, has made a mint peddling an increasingly sordid—and fantastical—account of Israel’s alleged crimes to the regressive left around the world. Formerly a good journalist, Levy proved to be an even better businessman: Complex analyses of the conflict, he realized, sold for pennies on the dollar in Paris and Cambridge and Rome, but thundering accounts of Jewish perfidy paid a premium. What followed were fawning profiles in Le Monde and Der Spiegel, human rights awards in Leipzig and Stockholm, even a stint on an Israeli reality show. As the sensationalists embraced Levy, serious readers shuffled off in search of more nutritional stuff.
      You have the “top tier” of the most Jewish of all Jewish writers who have created for themselves ” a social construction of reality” where there is no longer even a pretense of trying to be honest. It is one big contest who can come up with the best “smear.” Think about that paragraph about Levy. Does this cretin Liel Leibovitz believe these things are true about Levy? How about every reader of his? Do they wonder if its true? Its complicated is my answer. All i know is the more egregious the defamation the more back slapping and tweets of “great take down” What a bunch of contemptible Antediluvians.
      Jewish culture cant sink much lower. I will be telling the story how the most reprehensible and contemptible human beings in the world became the most celebrated Jews in the world. Jeffrey Goldberg tries to have people believe the difference between him and say JJ Goldberg of the Forward that Jeffrey is a little more hawkish. I aint letting Jeffrey pull that one off. There is one significant difference between the two. JJ goldberg is an angel Jeffrey Goldberg is a devil. שתי עיניים תחת עין

      Back to the halfwit. I’ts very important for our purposes that Yair is halfwit and has zero deception. So you can take everything at face value. Its all there. The important thing to know is he believes everything completely. “Cult like” that type of belief. I really would love to know what big Jewish intellectuals like Leon wieseltier think of that twitter feed.
      Pleas try to imagine what Yair Rosenberg see out of his eyes when he looks at the world. He holds all the secrets.

      @jeffreyGoldberg on the other hand thinks he is so very very clever. No has ever held him to account. Yet!
      http://i.imgur.com/KtKG8vL.png
      http://i.imgur.com/W7LBP5f.png

      We know “understanding” bad behavior is not what people like Goldberg are generally known for. Here you see Jeffrey Goldberg hand caught in the cookie jar. Because there is never ever any excuse for any people in the world to “applaud” someone like trump. No exception. However if that same person addresses a Jewish crowd, Goldberg will lecture us, to not even dare ask yourself why Jews are “allowed” to have a full throated tribal war dance.
      https://twitter.com/yakzh/status/712068937412792320

      Jeffrey Goldberg will get into the Clinton White House over my dead body.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 9, 2016, 11:47 pm

        You sure are doubling down on this. I guess you got the word on Goldberg’s form straight from the stables.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 10, 2016, 2:19 am

        Yakov, should I expect to be mentioned every time you decide to rant?

      • silamcuz
        silamcuz
        July 10, 2016, 3:20 am

        Yakov, upon reading many of your comments for this article, you appear to be a fiercely enlightenment man that’s on a mission to do the right thing. As such, I would like to publicly apologize for my previous comment that in hindsight was so rude and reckless of me to post. Now if I may ask you a few questions;

        “”These Jews are incapable of living as Jews in the modern world. So why not instead make the modern world live as Jews instead.”

        This sounds so cryptic, and I don’t understand what’s actually being said here. Could you clarify?

        Secondly, do you know Clinton is being backed financially by many Middle Eastern heads of government, that strongly oppose Israel and does not recognize its legitimacy as a state? Don’t you think these people know better than to spend their hard earned money donating to a politician that’s according to you and the rest of MW, is a loyal ally of their biggest enemy in the region?

        Even Qatar, the most progressive anti-Israel nation in the region supports Hillary, and they were one of the first nations to officially endorse BDS as the principal strategy to help Palestinians.

        So I just don’t get why people are conveniently trying to bag Hillary in the process of criticizing Israel, as if there’s a shortage of other things to criticize when it comes to Israel.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 10, 2016, 12:33 pm

        “Secondly, do you know Clinton is being backed financially by many Middle Eastern heads of government,”

        “Silamcuz” you should report that fact to the Federal Government and the FEC. “Being backed financially” by foreign governments is very, very illegal .

        I bet Manchuria is in on it.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 10, 2016, 1:55 pm

        “Yakov, should I expect to be mentioned every time you decide to rant?”

        “Yonah”, it’s your name. It’s mellifluous and soothing. Everybody likes it. The most beautiful sound I’ve ever heard, “Yonah”.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 10, 2016, 2:53 pm

        “As such, I would like to publicly apologize for my previous comment that in hindsight was so rude and reckless of me to post.”

        Oh, don’t worry, we know you can’t help being “rude andreckless”, “You behave the way you do because your mom gave birth to you in a country that prerequisites a certain set of values and behavioral attitudes, along with the genes that are responsible for the way your brain reacts external stimuli such as interaction with family, friends and colleagues as well as random strangers in your life. You also had no choice in neither the fact that you were born and raised where you were, or the specific DNA set that formed the basis of your personality and behavioral traits you inherited from your parents when you were conceived in your mother’s uterus.

        You will have no choice on the circumstances that may affect you in the future, nor would you be able to choose your response to the circumstances considering you have been hard-wired to react to every event major or minor in a certain way due to your specific genetic makeup. In a nutshell, you had no choice in existing and will have no choice while you exist.” “Simalcuz”
        – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/silamcuz/?keyword=genetic#sthash.LjW8fS1H.dpuf

        So you know, “rude and reckless” is the way you are going to be, and even “a good old-fashioned slap” won’t change it.

      • silamcuz
        silamcuz
        July 11, 2016, 11:27 pm

        “Silamcuz” you should report that fact to the Federal Government and the FEC. “Being backed financially” by foreign governments is very, very illegal .

        I bet Manchuria is in on it.

        Well, according to these articles, Hillary receives quite a large sum of donations from various foreign governments, including those who officially do not recognize Israel’s legitimacy as a state. The donation mostly goes into her Clinton Foundation though, which is not subject to legal scrutiny of FEC.

        Foreign Government Gifts to Clinton Foundation on the Rise
        http://www.wsj.com/articles/foreign-government-gifts-to-clinton-foundation-on-the-rise-1424223031

        Foreign governments gave millions to foundation while Clinton was at State Dept.
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/foreign-governments-gave-millions-to-foundation-while-clinton-was-at-state-dept/2015/02/25/31937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html

        Clinton Foundation donors included FIFA, Qatar host committee
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/05/27/clinton-foundation-donors-included-fifa-qatar-host-committee/

        We are talking about donations of millions of dollars, coming from countries that are ruthlessly economical when it comes to paying their foreign workers building their roads, towers and stadiums. No way these folks would even think of spending this much money if it would mean supporting, even indirectly, a candidate that will only serve to empower their solitary foe in the Middle East.

    • Yakov Hirsch
      Yakov Hirsch
      July 10, 2016, 6:22 am

      Tchoupitoulas, Since of all the people here you seem to be the one most likely to tell me how great I am.
      Id like to share a few thoughts with you.
      Truth is very elusive thing . A lot of seemingly smart and honest people believe lots of weird and contradictory shit. And everyone is so damn sure of themselves. How can one be really ever be sure, that what feels so evidently true in your head, reflects whats going on out there in the “real world?”
      Well my “trick” Is to try to pick up “unbiased” evidence . I was pretty sure the Jewish Jihadis were very bad people and should not be in the public Square. And then two horrible things happened to the Palestinian people. First Tony Judt died and then Andrew Sullivan retired. (must reading http://www.haaretz.com/the-country-that-wouldn-t-grow-up-1.186721?v=9328D951C29F2365084636962340486B
      They have yet to be replaced. So what choice do I have?
      “In a place where there are no men, endeavor to be a man:”
      http://torah.org/learning/pirkei-avos-chapter2-6/

      But how can i be sure I’m right about them? I’m the wicked son from the haggadah, and Jeffrey Goldberg has been ADL man of the year like 14 years running.
      That’s where Robert Wright comes in. Not that i agree with him about everything but you have to always trust your own eyes. And Robert Wright is not “on the make.” Go check out http://bloggingheads.tv/ He’s trying to be a bodhisattva. So when he says this below i feel emboldened.

      “Still, these smears have been hugely counterproductive from a truly pro-Zionist standpoint. What you’re seeing now is one of the final desperate spasms of a group that has already helped destroy the thing it loves, and will probably destroy a few other things before finally, like Joseph McCarthy, destroying itself and receding mercifully into the pages of history.
      http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/12/chuck-hagel-and-the-neocon-smear-machine/266499/
      Well Mr Wright I have good news and bad news for you. The bad is they have “not receded mercifully into the pages of history.” The good however is the receding is about to commence.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 10, 2016, 12:45 pm

        “What choice do I have…”

        Well, about now, very little. Your mouth wrote a check, and now your ass has to cover it.
        Are you counting your money while you’re sitting at the table? There will time enough for counting when the writing’s done.

      • Tchoupitoulas
        Tchoupitoulas
        July 10, 2016, 4:10 pm

        @Yakov – thnx for your response. Will mull over. I saw the twitter back and forth between you, Kirchick and Pagano. You are definitely hitting a nerve. The are kind of trying to figure out what is going on…

        No need to respond, and good luck with your shiksa :)

  7. inbound39
    inbound39
    July 9, 2016, 8:22 pm

    I am wondering what the Dems are going to trot out to sanction Clinton as President given she is now known not to be trusted with State Secrets and she plans on having Netanyahu at the Whitehouse in her first month. Like attracts like I guess. Everytime Netanyahu’s lips move he lies. How can Clinton be Commander in Chief when they can’t even trust her.

  8. WH
    WH
    July 10, 2016, 5:57 am

    “It’s really not as easy being a self hating Jew as it used to be. ”

    I get the impression that people are increasingly not even bothering with this phrase, and have no compunction about calling Jews anti-Semites as well.

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