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Three young Jews were reportedly kicked off their free trip to Israel sponsored by the pro-Israel Birthright program today because they asked questions about the separation wall Israel has erected on occupied Palestinian territory.

A video of the young people as they leave the trip has been posted by one of them on her Facebook page. Shira Leah reports that she and two others were kicked off Birthright, “because when we drove past the border separation wall between Israel and the West Bank (which our tour guide had ignored all 4 times we drove past it), we tried to ask questions about it and didn’t accept his answer that the entire conflict is caused by crazy violent Palestinians.”

In the accompanying video, young people are heard to discuss signing a waiver to end their trip with a Birthright official in a tense conversation.

That official says to a young man: “I was more than willing to have a conversation with you… Then you came at me with the nineteen-year-old’s feeling this way and that way…. The program is designed and going to stay as is. With you being allowed to ask questions.”

Birthright guide explains to three participants that they are getting kicked off trip. From Facebook video, screenshot.

The young man says he only asked two questions and he is being kicked off for who he is.

The only reason i knew we drove past the ‘separation wall’ is because people pointed it out to me on Google maps… I asked two questions and that’s it… [Evidently] my views in my head are incompatible with the trip. Because I am progressive and because I don’t like Netanyahu and Trump and border walls. Because I have those thoughts in my head, I can’t be here?…. What rule did I break?… This has been really stressful and honestly slightly traumatic to be screamed at and kicked off… I asked two questions, and I said I was disappointed in the way–

The official then says: “The reason we can’t have you here is because of the agenda of an outside program that we believe you are affiliated with.”

That’s a reference to the young Jewish group IfNotNow’s efforts to disrupt Birthright trips. At that link, IfNotNow posts the latest Birthright agreement, which limits the free speech of participants.

Shira Leah says on her Facebook page: “I am devastated by Trump’s policies of family separation, detention of children, and building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border because it goes against all of the values I was taught growing up n my Jewish community, where my mom was the Rabbi. It is unfathomable that I would be asked to stay silent when we see the same thing happening in Israel. Clearly this is a bribe, not a gift. #NoSuchThingAsAFreeTrip #NotJustAFreeTrip”

Birthright has come under great pressure from IfNotNow since last summer when nearly a dozen young Jews walked off Birthright trips, and IfNotNow encouraged more to do so, and the organization, funded by Democrat Haim Saban and Republican Sheldon Adelson among others, pushed back.

Nonetheless, reports are that participation in the free trip for Jews under 26 has fallen off this winter.

Here is Ben Doernberg’s report from Twitter about getting kicked off:

Today has been absolutely surreal. I woke up at 7am on a @birthrightisrael trip… and by 3pm I was standing on a street corner next to the Tel Aviv stock exchange with my luggage, trying to process getting kicked off the trip.

Basically, throughout the entire trip it was pretty standard right-wing propaganda. *Literally* every single time an Arab or Palestinian was mentioned in a story, it was to talk about someone who was a crazy terrorist murderer who likes killing Jews for fun. Every. Single. Time.

Eventually, Emily (who’s an immigration rights organizer) got fed up when they drove us past the separation wall between Israel and the West Bank *for the 4th time* without acknowledging that it existed, and she asked if the wall we were passing was the West Bank separation wall.

He said yes, and launched into a monologue about Palestinian suicide bombers and put 100% of the blame on them. Emily and I asked him about the lack of nuance and whether we’d be getting any perspectives from any Palestinians, or people who advocate for Palestinian rights.

He said “I don’t know of any program or person who could do that”, which is obviously absurd. It was getting very tense, and then he noticed that the conversation was being recorded and he went from 0 to 100, got in her face, and things escalated dramatically.

This is in the context of a trip where people were openly filming all the time, including 15 seconds before this particular conversation started, with no issues at all. Anyway, at that point other people on the bus intervened and calmed things down.

At our next stop a bunch of Birthright trip staff members pulled Emily, Shira and I out of the group and told us that we had to leave the trip immediately, for unspecified reasons.

The woman in charge told us that they had rebooked our flights home for today, and we had 2 choices: either we could get in a car with them and drive straight to the airport to leave the country, or they would cancel our flights home. Either way, we couldn’t stay on the trip.

The wildest part was, they had no explanation for why we were being kicked off. They said we violated the trip rules and regulations, but refused to say which rule or regulation we had violated by asking questions on the bus about things we could see out the window.

What they did say, repeatedly and explicitly, was that our desire to hear multiple viewpoints and perspectives was incompatible with the trip, and as a result we were done with the trip because it wasn’t possible for it “to meet our needs.”

I can’t think of anything less Jewish than to kick someone off for asking questions, for wanting to hear a multiple perspectives, for caring about the freedom of everyone who lives in Israel/Palestine.

Demanding that young Jews keep their values quiet in exchange for plane tickets is not a gift, it’s a bribe. People like Sheldon Adelson, the largest donor to both @birthrightIsrael and Trump, want to buy off our generation with plane tickets. No thanks.

Batya Ungar-Sargon of the Forward writes:

A new clause in the contract participants sign includes a ban on “any attempt to.. hijack a discussion or create an unwarranted provocation violate Taglit-Birthright’s founding principles.” Who the hell would want to go on such a trip? smdh

Thanks to Scott Roth. 

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  1. scott9854958
    scott9854958
    December 23, 2018, 2:17 pm

    Well I disagree with them that all walls are bad, but at least they’re consistent. The most loathsome creatures are those who say Israel’s wall is moral but Trump’s isn’t.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      December 24, 2018, 10:46 am

      Breaking news:

      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/12/israel-hold-early-elections-april-181224122527714.html

      Al Jazeera, Dec. 24/18
      “Israel to hold early elections in April”

      “Israeli parliament to be dissolved, elections held seven months before schedule.”

      • JWalters
        JWalters
        December 24, 2018, 6:27 pm

        Interesting. The US should resume the military draft for just this reason. In my opinion, the US shifted from a draft to a “professional” military specifically to eliminate the sort of public protests that stymied the war profiteers in their Vietnam war.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 25, 2018, 1:07 am

        ” The US should resume the military draft for just this reason”

        I think that should be up to people of draft age.

  2. Mayhem
    Mayhem
    December 23, 2018, 7:05 pm

    If anyone doesn’t like what they are getting for nothing they can always extend their visit and make whatever arrangements they like. The Birthright program is meant to be for those who come with open eyes and minds, not for people who are stooges of IfNotNow.
    Can you imagine somebody who is an employee of an organisation demanding the right to free speech on the job?

    • eljay
      eljay
      December 23, 2018, 8:02 pm

      || Mayhem: … The Birthright program is meant to be for those who come with open eyes and minds … ||

      …as long as those eyes and minds are open only to the Zionist ideology of Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine. Gawd – and Birthright – forbid anyone should open his/her eyes and mind to justice, accountability and equality in I-P.

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        December 24, 2018, 10:16 am

        @eljay, et al

        Re: “Birthright”

        “Opinion The Twisted Logic of the Jewish ‘Historic Right’ to Israel” by Shlomo Sand, Haaretz, Nov. 14/18

        https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/the-twisted-logic-of-the-jewish-historic-right-to-israel-1.6654428

        “Our political culture insists on seeing the Jews as the direct descendants of the ancient Hebrews. But the Jews never existed as a ‘people’ – still less as a nation.”

        EXCERPTS:
        “The founding myth of Zionism – which proceeds in an unbroken line from Max Nordau and Arthur Ruppin, to worrisome geneticists in several Israeli universities and at Yeshiva University in New York – acts as the principal ideological glue for the nation’s everlasting unity, and today more than ever. The justification for Zionist settlement/colonization (choose your preferred term – they mean the same thing) is the meta-paradigm that is expressed in the declaration of the establishment of the state, namely: ‘We were here, we were uprooted, we came back.’

        “Full disclosure: Even when I believed, mistakenly, that the ‘Jewish people’ was exiled by the Romans in 70 C.E. or 132 C.E., I didn’t think that this conferred on the Jews some sort of imagined ‘historic right’ to the Holy Land. If we seek to organize the world as it was 2,000 years ago, we will turn it into one big madhouse. Why not bring Native Americans back to Manhattan, for example, or restore the Arabs to Spain and the Serbs to Kosovo? Of course, such twisted logic of ‘historic right’ will also commit us to supporting the continued settlement/colonization of Hebron, Jericho and Bethlehem.

        “As I pursued my research, my realization that the Exodus from Egypt never happened and that the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Judah were not exiled by the Romans, left me nonplussed. There is not one study by a historian who specializes in antiquity that recounts that ‘exile’ or any serious historiographic study that reconstructs a mass migration from the place. The ‘exile’ is a formative event that never took place, otherwise it would be the subject of dozens of research studies. Judahite farmers, who constituted an absolute majority of the population at the first century C.E., were not seafarers like the Greeks or the Phoenicians, and did not spread across the world. It was Jahwist monotheism, which since the Hasmonean era had become a dynamic religion engaged in conversion, which laid the foundations for the Jews’ age-old existence around the globe.”

        “Until World War II, the vast majority of Eastern and Western Jews – traditionalist, Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Communists and Bundists – were avowed anti-Zionists. They did not wish for sovereignty over themselves within a nation-state framework in the Middle East. The Bundists did in fact see themselves, and quite rightly, as a Yiddish people in need of cultural-linguistic autonomy, but they rejected outright the proposal to immigrate to Palestine as part of a project of a trans-world Jewish nation.

        “And here we come to the last desperate attempt to justify the Zionist enterprise retroactively: Zionism as a response to an emergency situation. History, unfortunately, was more tragic. Zionism failed utterly to rescue Europe’s Jews, nor could it have done so. From 1882 until 1924, the Jews streamed in their masses – about 2.5 million – to the North American continent of promise. And yes, had it not been for the racist Johnson-Reed Immigration Act that prevented continued immigration, another million or perhaps two million of these souls might have been saved.”

        “What remains for me, then, is to go on being a-Zionist or post-Zionist while doing what I can to help rescue the place I live in from an ever-intensifying racism, due, among other reasons, to the teaching of a false historical past, fear of assimilation with the Other, revulsion of the indigenous culture and so on. For, as the Turkish poet Nazim Hikmet wrote, ‘If I don’t burn / if you don’t burn / … if we don’t burn / how will the light / … vanquish the darkness?’”

        Shlomo Sand is a historian and professor emeritus of Tel Aviv University.

      • JWalters
        JWalters
        December 24, 2018, 6:42 pm

        Adding to Misterioso’s post, here’s a devastating historical takedown of the bogus Birthright claims, by a researching Evangelical Christian no less! The times they are a’changing.
        “Jerusalem Hoax – Jake Morphonios”

    • johneill
      johneill
      December 23, 2018, 8:25 pm

      taking a tour makes them employees?

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 24, 2018, 7:56 am

        || johneill: taking a tour makes them employees? ||

        His point seems to be something like this:
        – Birthright is a business that serves the cause of Jewish / “Jewish State” supremacism (Zionism).
        – When you take a tour, it’s as though you’ve been hired as an “employee” of that company.
        – Unquestioning loyalty to the firm (“open eyes and minds” that see only what the company wants you to see) is expected.

    • John O
      John O
      December 24, 2018, 3:57 am

      @Mayhem “Can you imagine somebody who is an employee of an organisation demanding the right to free speech on the job?”

      I’m guessing you never went to a university.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      December 24, 2018, 8:33 am

      @Mayhem

      Utterly pathetic and desperate response. Unworthy of further comment.

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        December 24, 2018, 8:46 am

        Bottom line:
        Ever increasing numbers of American Jewish youth are seeing “Israel” for the monster it is.
        The writing is on the wall.

        https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-sharp-declinein-number-of-american-jews-coming-on-birthright-trips-this-winter-1.6739756

        “Sharp Decline in Number of American Jews on Birthright Trips ”
        Haaretz, Dec. 11/18 By Judy Maltz.

        “Numbers are down as much as 50 percent in some cases, with providers speculating that disengagement with Israel among young U.S. Jews is part of the problem.”

        “Birthright is experiencing a sharp drop in participation rates this current winter season, according to five providers who spoke to Haaretz. The downturn is mainly being felt in the United States,…”

    • genesto
      genesto
      December 24, 2018, 12:33 pm

      || Mayhem: … The Birthright program is meant to be for those who come with open eyes and minds … ||

      You are LOL with this statement, right? Otherwise, it’s my choice for most ironic statement of the year!! This was what one of the exiled members of the group related in this piece: “What they did say, repeatedly and explicitly, was that our desire to hear multiple viewpoints and perspectives was incompatible with the trip—“. I thought a ‘desire to hear multiple viewpoints and perspectives’ is what comes with ‘open eyes and minds’. But, then, I don’t live in Zionist Bizarro world as you do, Mayhem, so what do I know?

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      December 24, 2018, 4:34 pm

      Any organization that doesn’t have a reasonable response to simple questions by a 19 year old kid…has built their organization on sand.

    • hophmi
      hophmi
      December 25, 2018, 11:51 pm

      Oh, but Mayhem, in the nearly 20 years that Birthright has been around, none of the hundreds of the thousands of kids who have gone on a trip have asked difficult questions about the wall or about the Palestinians. You see, it’s just not done, and it’s never happened, which is why in 2018, when it did happen, spontaneously, of course, the kids were removed immediately, they being the first to raise these questions.

      These BDS people must think the rest of the world is really stupid, eh, Mayhem?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 26, 2018, 12:33 pm

        ,” in the nearly 20 years that Birthright has been around, none of the hundreds of the thousands of kids who have gone on a trip have asked difficult questions about the wall or about the Palestinians. You see, it’s just not done, and it’s never happened, which is why in 2018, when it did happen, spontaneously, of course, the kids were removed immediately, they being the first to raise these questions.”

        You ought to know, “Hophmi”.

    • Xpat
      Xpat
      December 28, 2018, 12:23 pm

      @Mayhem

      Birthright’s vision statement is: “To ensure the vibrant future of the Jewish people by strengthening Jewish identity, Jewish communities, and connection with Israel”. Nothing about not asking questions about the places they were driving by. Palestinian issues are central to Jewish identity, on the right or the left.

      Under “Educational Goals”: “The Birthright Israel journey is committed to a culture of open discussion and dialogue about all issues: identity, geopolitics, religion, and Jewish life.”

      Per Birthright, these three young Jews acted as perfect Birthrighters.

      Anyway, Birthright’s ugliness is breaking out of all the sleek packaging and that’s a good thing.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 28, 2018, 2:31 pm

        “Anyway, Birthright’s ugliness is breaking out of all the sleek packaging and that’s a good thing.” Xpat”

        Well, now is the time that that Judaism and the Jewish community must be made 100% Zionist! There’s no time for niceties, and kibbitzing
        By simply alienating from organized Judaism every person is isn’t 100% Zionist, soon Judaism will be 100% (or near enough, we’ll need the NK for look-good) Zionist, and what superpower could refuse the requests of a dwindling Jewish people?

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 28, 2018, 3:04 pm

        || Xpat: … Birthright’s vision statement is: “To ensure the vibrant future of the Jewish people by strengthening Jewish identity, Jewish communities … ||

        All of those things involve a religion-based identity. None of those things requires the existence of a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”.

        || … and connection with Israel”. … ||

        And there’s the supremacist money shot. Connections with Israel belong:
        – to Jewish and non-Jewish Israelis (i.e., citizens of, immigrants to and ex-pats and refugees from Partition-borders Israel); and
        – not to citizens of homelands all over the world who are more than n-generation removed from Partition-borders Israel.

  3. gamal
    gamal
    December 23, 2018, 7:43 pm

    “Three young Jews were reportedly kicked off their free trip to Israel sponsored by the pro-Israel Birthright”

    So not a birthright then, is there a spit test for that?

    If anyone told me that there were some ideological impositions required for membership in any group of any kind whatsoever, I would miss them but you got to standup otherwise life is depressing, but when you genuine suffering is light as a feather, beings are, everyone not one but five holy families therefore fear is ridiculous or rage, dear brothers and sisters.

    “I asked two questions and that’s it” he think them people are his trained monkey. (merry christmas all, i am doing my duty with black ipa and blackbush, it’s going to be a marathon, subhan allah)

  4. ritzl
    ritzl
    December 23, 2018, 8:22 pm

    Code Pink recently called on Pro-Palestinian new members of Congress to boycott the requisite “orientation” trip to Israel. I suggested to them, on Twitter, that these freshmen Congressfolk should go but DEMAND that they get the full Apartheid/Hafrada tour. Hebron, Bethlehem, Billin, etc.

    No response. So I’ll ask here, why isn’t the full racist tour of Israel insisted upon. Why would Code Pink call for these representatives to AVOID confronting the racist Israel reality?

    I know it isn’t because they object to racism being fronted. Yet the protest callout seems to do just that.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      December 23, 2018, 11:00 pm

      Haim Saban Sheldon Adelson control the agenda, and mostly pay for it. They are both on record saying their sole agenda is Israel First.That’s what Code Pink is dealing with. You may as well demand that AIPAC become a real American First organization.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        December 24, 2018, 4:37 pm

        What do you want to bet that “we” pay for it?
        I’m sure he gets a tax/business benefit.

  5. Marnie
    Marnie
    December 24, 2018, 8:54 am

    ‘I asked two questions and that’s it… [Evidently] my views in my head are incompatible with the trip. Because I am progressive and because I don’t like Netanyahu and Trump and border walls. Because I have those thoughts in my head, I can’t be here?…. What rule did I break?… This has been really stressful and honestly slightly traumatic to be screamed at and kicked off… I asked two questions, and I said I was disappointed in the way–’

    That sounds really scary. Imagine what it’s like for a palestinian child to try to get to school in Hebron, walking past settlers chanting ‘death to arabs’ and walking past trigger-happy settler golem who want nothing more than coffee, a smoke and to see you dead.

  6. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    December 24, 2018, 9:03 am

    RE: “Three young Jews are kicked off ‘Birthright’ trip for asking questions about separation wall in Palestine”

    ■ C. VANN WOODWARD (1938):

    . . . The submissive loyalty that the leaders of the New Departure commanded in Georgia conformed to a pattern found in all Southern states after home rule was restored. “The ‘Solid South,’ ” wrote Henry Watterson in 1879, “is a reaction against proscription, attended by misgovernment, and a protest against the ever-recurring menace of Federal interference.” 25 Thus the new discipline was feudal rather than democratic. It was based upon fear—fear of the Negro menace, the scalawag menace, the Federal menace, menaces real and imaginary. As the price of protection, it demanded unquestioning allegiance. White men could not divide on lines of class interest, nor could differences over measures and candidates be expressed at the ballot box. Such matters were settled by the small clique that ran the machine. Democratic forms were observed, but their observance was entirely perfunctory. Party platforms contained nothing but such platitudes as all white men could agree upon. Incompetency and weakness in candidates had to be overlooked for the sake of white solidarity. Suspected graft in public office could not be exposed for fear of Negro domination. Ballot-box stuffing had to be tolerated when white supremacy was threatened. Such was the moral intimidation of this feudal discipline that it was widely felt that to scratch a ticket [i.e., to not vote a straight (Democrat) ticket – J.L.D.] was “treason to the white race,” and to make open declaration of independence was “an effort to africanize the state.” . . . ~ from page 57 of “Tom Watson: Agrarian Rebel”, by C. Vann Woodward – https://archive.org/details/AgrarianRebel1938BiographyOfTomWatson

  7. Vera Gottlieb
    Vera Gottlieb
    December 24, 2018, 11:12 am

    Strong scent of Nazi-ism in the air.

    • Steve Grover
      Steve Grover
      December 24, 2018, 1:11 pm

      Yeah Vera Gottlieb, Mondoweiss gives off the stench.

      • amigo
        amigo
        December 24, 2018, 2:04 pm

        “Mondoweiss gives off the stench.” grover

        Whenever the stench is absent , so are you.
        I know , it,s just a coincidence, right stevie boy.

      • gamal
        gamal
        December 24, 2018, 2:33 pm

        “it,s just a coincidence, right stevie boy”

        Hey Amigo, merry Christmas, you remember when even the mention of Ireland was frowned upon and some guy in 17th century reworked an old love lyric ( i know liable to make a fool of myself in messing with things Irish, but why not) Roisin Dubh, everyone knows who Roisin is

        the great Roisin El Safty ( who seems to have married an Egyptian which is pretty adventurous of her) sings in a church, boy it doesn’t sound like Joe Heaneys version. No threats are ever going to drown out this voice because it’s the sound of Sumud

        https://youtu.be/f8gnKT5MlnM

      • John O
        John O
        December 24, 2018, 2:55 pm

        @ Steve Grover

        Here’s how to do it properly:

        On Christmas Eve, churches all over the country will welcome into their midnight mass services people who rarely take part in acts of Christian worship but find candlelit carols irresistible.

        In the pews of St Alban’s in North Harrow there will be a special group of visitors: about three dozen Muslims from a nearby mosque.

        For the past 10 years, worshippers at the Shia Ithna’ashari Community of Middlesex have been attending midnight mass at St Alban’s as a way of meeting their neighbours and taking part in Christmas festivities.

        “For us, attending midnight mass is a great chance to participate in an important part of Christmas celebrations and meet people from our local church, many of whom have become our friends,” said Miqdaad Versi, an executive committee member of SICM.

        “Ten years ago, this was one of the first times we met, and now it has flourished into a much stronger and long-lasting relationship as we meet regularly, work together and organise joint events.”

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/24/church-welcomes-its-special-muslim-visitors-on-christmas-eve

      • amigo
        amigo
        December 24, 2018, 3:40 pm

        “Hey Amigo, merry Christmas, you remember when even the mention of Ireland was frowned upon “gamal

        Btw , Americans use the term Merry Xmas.We prefer to replace the word Merry with Happy.Merry is what most people are after a few libations and everyone knows we Irish swore off the drink after the supply dried up (pun intended) after the Brits deserted us 100 years ago.

        The term Roisin Dubh –Dark Rose actually refers to “The Pint of Guinness “.

        Feel free to mess with things Irish , just don,t mess with the Irish.Ask the All Blacks .

        You might try Sinead O Connors version of Roisin Dubh.

        Nollaig Shona Duit .

        and remember when you are partaking of the hard stuff over the Xmas !.

      • gamal
        gamal
        December 24, 2018, 3:50 pm

        “and remember when you are partaking of the hard stuff over the Xmas !.

        “Dark Rose actually refers to “The Pint of Guinness “……what an extraordinary coincidence and point taken Happy Christmas…you learn everyday..

      • amigo
        amigo
        December 24, 2018, 4:04 pm

        “In the pews of St Alban’s in North Harrow there will be a special group of visitors: about three dozen Muslims from a nearby mosque.”John O.

        Good for them.

        Earlier today I watched a report by CNN on the Christian celebrations in Bethlehem.

        According to the report hundreds of Muslims joined in with the celebrations as they have done for years.

        Can,t find a link , apologies.

        Happy Twismas.

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976
        December 24, 2018, 7:02 pm

        The aroma of Mondoweiss to me is concern for human rights, distress over human suffering and rejection of bad reasons for doing bad things.

  8. Steve Grover
    Steve Grover
    December 24, 2018, 12:31 pm

    The 3 are like the Green Bay Packers fan who demanded to get on the sidelines wearing Packer garb at Soldier Field. He couldn’t get on the sidelines and the 3 got booted and rightfully so.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-green-bay-packers-fan-loses-against-bears-20181213-story.html

    • James North
      James North
      December 24, 2018, 12:48 pm

      Mooser: Once again, I’m speechless at your genius. Directing your sock-puppet to compare principled young Jews who refuse to be brainwashed in Israel with a Green Bay Packer fan! Speechless.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 25, 2018, 12:47 am

        “Once again, I’m speechless at your genius.”

        Thank you. I don’t even know what I meant by it.

  9. amigo
    amigo
    December 24, 2018, 1:41 pm

    Israel thinks history will be kind to it because they intend to write it.

    Apologies to Winston Churchill.On second thoughts , he was part of the reason the ME is so screwed up.

  10. Citizen
    Citizen
    December 25, 2018, 4:13 am

    Foreign Policy Message To All Americans: Zionism and AntiSemitism: Argument / Counter-Argument https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/12/24/zionism-and-anti-semitism-argument-counter-argument/ by @NatCounterPunch

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      December 26, 2018, 1:43 pm

      It might turn out allright. I’m told “Hatikvah” is easier to sing than “The Star-Spangled Banner”

    • catalan
      catalan
      December 26, 2018, 2:07 pm

      “Looks like BDS will be all over next month.” Mooser
      Impossible. History gets changed when a small group of people decides to boycott Pepsi, Nestle, and Victoria Secret. So as to bring about the Partition borders. Of these, I admit I will miss VS the most.

    • eljay
      eljay
      December 26, 2018, 3:03 pm

      || Mooser: Looks like BDS will be all over next month. ||

      Another day, another Zionist hypocrite denounces justice, accountability and equality because they interfere with Jewish / “Jewish State” supremacism.

    • annie
      annie
      December 26, 2018, 5:10 pm

      this is an initiative of rabbi shmuley, the go to guy on cleaning up your image w/the jewish community. when i first read about it in hollywood reporter this morning i couldn’t stop laughing. check out the comments on this tweet: https://twitter.com/THRGlobal/status/1077747947197030400

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 26, 2018, 6:19 pm

        “Annie” you gotta admit, it’s a new idea and it just might be crazy enough to work! You ’86’ from the organized community, right now, any Jew who is not totally down with Zionism. When all the remaining Jews are 100% Zionist, the world can refuse us nothing. Who would be cold-hearted enough to refuse the wishes of a rapidly dwindling people?

        What other religion grows the more it shrinks?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 26, 2018, 6:45 pm

        “Check out the comments…”

        Like this one:

        “That’s an amazing honor for her. I hope its broadcasted.
        @therealroseanne is a power voice for us Jews world wide”

      • amigo
        amigo
        December 28, 2018, 11:53 am

        “What other religion grows the more it shrinks?”Mooser.

        zionists have bought off the theory that states , “Less is More “.

        Shhh , let.s not spoil their plan.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 28, 2018, 2:22 pm

        Remember, “amigo”, for a de-proselytising religion, percentage matters more than people.

  11. Marnie
    Marnie
    December 27, 2018, 2:17 am

    Uggghhhhhh.

    Shmuley sending his golem to save the jews!

  12. mijj
    mijj
    December 28, 2018, 10:39 am

    > “The reason we can’t have you here is because of the agenda of an outside program that we believe you are affiliated with.”

    what can be counted on by those who feel they belong to a class of ubermensch is their telepathic insight into the actions of their inferiors.

    /(s/he said without a sense of irony)

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