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The Gaza Strip is famous for its strawberries, which used to be exported all around Israel, Palestine, and the world. But as a result of Israel’s blockade on Gaza, which is entering its 12th year this year, strawberry farming is dying out. The siege has made the practice increasingly expensive for farmers, forcing them to abandon their farms. Long waits at Israeli checkpoints and restrictions on exports mean that Gaza’s remaining strawberry farmers can never be sure if they will make enough profits to survive through the season.

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  1. Nathan
    Nathan
    January 17, 2019, 6:01 pm

    Strawberry fields? I hear from MW all the time that Gaza is a prison. However, whenever any picture is presented, I discover to my surprise that the prison has wonderful beaches, pleasant neighborhoods, fishing and extensive farming. Nice journalism.

    • Keith
      Keith
      January 18, 2019, 12:22 am

      NATHAN- “However, whenever any picture is presented, I discover to my surprise that the prison has wonderful beaches, pleasant neighborhoods, fishing and extensive farming.”

      Have you considered purchasing a condo?

    • eljay
      eljay
      January 18, 2019, 8:53 am

      || Nathan: Strawberry fields? I hear from MW all the time that Gaza is a prison. However, whenever any picture is presented, I discover to my surprise that the prison has wonderful beaches, pleasant neighborhoods, fishing and extensive farming. Nice journalism. ||

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/10606906/Ruhleben-the-WW1-camp-where-gardening-blossomed.html

      Debating societies, orchestra and theatre, workshops, organized sports and gardening: How dare anyone refer to it as an internment camp.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      January 19, 2019, 7:02 am

      Nathan: “I hear from MW all the time that Gaza is a prison.”

      Indeed. The occupier ultimately controls who and what enters or exits Gaza. /It control the Palestinian population registry and defines who is a legal resident or not.)

      Only 17% of what was exported before the occupier’s illegal blockade exits Gaza.

      Nathan: “However, whenever any picture is presented, I discover to my surprise that the prison has wonderful beaches, pleasant neighborhoods, fishing and extensive farming.”

      Yes, yes. Living half a century under a brutal occupation is beatiful, isn’t it? At least if Jews are not the occupied, but the occupiers.

      Fishing and farming is restricted in this prison, too. Under the Oslo Accords the occupier allowed the occupied to fishing within 20 nautical miles. It has reduced it to 3 nautical miles. The occupier’s also restricts materials to enter Gaza to repair and mantain water supply and imposed a no-go zone within Gaza, in which farmers are shot with live ammunition.

      • catalan
        catalan
        January 19, 2019, 9:23 am

        “The occupier’s also restricts materials to enter Gaza” talkback
        And yet, the occupier is losing the battle; As you frequently point out, it’s only a matter of time till the full Hamas victory. Zionism is doomed and the Palestinians will get their partition border state and the return of refugees due to the boycotts. So what is there to worry about?

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 19, 2019, 11:26 am

        Catalan, your lies become more and more pathetic. And more and more stupid at the same time.

        But I will tell you something. Not about the Jewish Apartheid state, but about the Jewish people. A soon as Jews realize what their real psychological need is and understand how they fail to attend to this need by creating a racist Apartheid state that commits atrocities against people of other faith/heritage they will also realize that they have to change and start to act like moral and humane beings. The only conclusion is, that they will abandon Apartheid. Otherwise it doesn’t matter, if Zionism aka the Apartheid regime is a success story or not, because it won’t be a succes story of the Jewish people. The state may not be doomed, but the Jews will be.

      • catalan
        catalan
        January 19, 2019, 12:56 pm

        “The state may not be doomed, but the Jews will be.” Talkback
        I kind of agree with you. With 80 percent intermarriage rate I think it’s only a matter of time until there are no Jews outside of Israel (and since Israel is itself doomed there won’t be any Jews at all). I am OK with that. I don’t imagine that my son would care to marry a Jewish person (the Jewish population of New Mexico is tiny) and all my Jewish relatives are married to Christians. My niece, my cousins, they are all mixed marriages and the next generation will abandon Judaism. I really don’t care about these long term things because who knows how many years I have left. I figure, once you are dead, you are liberated from such worries (at least one hopes so unless they continue the battle up (or down) there. But it’s interesting because you keep saying that Israel is doomed, Zionism is doomed, now there is a new one – the Jews are doomed…So logically it would be awesome to be a Gazan Hamasnik and terrible to be Israeli (or Jewish for that matter). Yet you constantly complain too how bad they have it. So there is the contradiction that I just don’t understand – are Jews an all powerful force that runs the world or are they just doomed. Since every post here says they are both (super rich, super powerful, run congress but also doomed, finished, right before collapse) and that makes no sense to me.

      • annie
        annie
        January 19, 2019, 1:49 pm

        So there is the contradiction that I just don’t understand

        catalan, you open saying you kind of agree with talkback that jews may be doomed but then you give the reasoning of demographics and intermarriage. i think we all grasp how very confusing all of this is for you. but i don’t know if it would really help you to spell it out. i think you might have to figure this out on your own. as a guiding principle i’d advise not focusing on your own personal story. new mexico, your son, your nieces (yes we all know how you love talking about your life) — try listening.

        their real psychological need is and understand how they fail to attend to this need by creating a racist Apartheid state that commits atrocities against people of other faith/heritage they will also realize that they have to change and start to act like moral and humane beings.

        if what you see is “every post here” saying Jews are “super rich, super powerful, run congress but also doomed” focus on understanding what leads to that doom. listen to the reasons why, the moral aspect of “racist Apartheid state that commits atrocities”. i have confidence you can figure this one out on your own.

      • eljay
        eljay
        January 19, 2019, 2:22 pm

        || catalan: … With 80 percent intermarriage rate I think it’s only a matter of time until there are no Jews outside of Israel (and since Israel is itself doomed there won’t be any Jews at all). … ||

        All it takes to keep the Jewish identity alive is religious conversion to Judaism or descent from someone who underwent religious conversion to Judaism. I think the identity will survive. Have faith in the future of your people*.
        _______________________
        (*I’m assuming that today you’re Jewish catalan and not Bulgarian, New Mexican, Spanish, Italian and/or Arab catalan.)

      • annie
        annie
        January 19, 2019, 2:26 pm

        All it takes to keep the Jewish identity alive is religious conversion

        or recognizing all the offspring of jewish males as jewish.

      • eljay
        eljay
        January 19, 2019, 2:39 pm

        || annie: … or recognizing all the offspring of jewish males as jewish. ||

        Sure. Personally I think any person living in or up to n-generations removed from “Jewish State” should also be considered Jewish. But Zionists – who, despite their assertions that Jewish is so much more than just religion (it’s tribe, collective, ethnicity, culture, people, nation and civilization), know full well that Jewish is fundamentally a religion-based identity – don’t want to dilute the brand.

      • annie
        annie
        January 19, 2019, 3:30 pm

        Zionists – … know full well that Jewish is fundamentally a religion-based identity

        i don’t know if it’s fundamentally religious based. other people being or not being jewish it’s not something i take a position on. all it takes is one jewish person to not base their (jewish) identity on religion (aka a secular jew) and it sort of blows the concept of “religion-based” out of the water. anyway, like i said it’s not something i take a position on nor do i think it’s a settled matter within jewish communities, so why should i? same goes for the notion of jews being a “nation”. let them fight over this stuff, they’ll never all agree with each other over it anyway.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        January 19, 2019, 5:16 pm

        To
        /carriage return/
        “All it takes to keep the Jewish identity alive is religious conversion”
        /carriage return/
        Annie responds: “or recognizing all the offspring of jewish males as jewish”.
        /carriage return/
        Congratulations on joining the Catholic Kings, the Ottoman Empire and the Zionist entity in defining religion as hereditary.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 19, 2019, 6:10 pm

        catalan: “I kind of agree with you. With 80 percent intermarriage rate I think it’s only a matter of time until there are no Jews outside of Israel (and since Israel is itself doomed there won’t be any Jews at all) … But it’s interesting because you keep saying that Israel is doomed, Zionism is doomed, now there is a new one – the Jews are doomed…”

        Yes, Catalan, we allready established that you are either dishonest, stupid or both.

        I didn’t write that Israel was doomed, but that Jews would be doomed, if they don’t start to act like moral and human beings and face their psychological and moral weaknesses which led not only to the violent creation of their Apartheid state, but also to commiting atrocities to Nonjews.

        Regarding the “Jewish” state I agree with Benny Mooris:
        “I don’t see how we get out of it,” he says in reference to Israel’s continued existence as a Jewish state. “Already today there are more Arabs than Jews between the [Mediterranean] sea and the Jordan. The whole territory is unavoidably becoming one state with an Arab majority. Israel still calls itself a Jewish state, but a situation in which we rule an occupied people that has no rights cannot persist in the 21st century, in the modern world. And as soon as they do have rights, the state will no longer be Jewish.”
        https://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium.MAGAZINE-israel-will-decline-and-jews-will-be-persecuted-those-who-can-will-flee-1.6848498

        See the difference between something being just and something being Jewish? That’s what Zionism does to Jews. It morally corrupts them. You may call it an “80%” success story.

        I won’t comment the rest of your mental disturbances.

      • eljay
        eljay
        January 19, 2019, 6:31 pm

        || annie: … i don’t know if it’s fundamentally religious based. … all it takes is one jewish person to not base their (jewish) identity on religion (aka a secular jew) and it sort of blows the concept of “religion-based” out of the water. … ||

        Not at all. The fact that one is a “secular Jew” doesn’t change the fact that to become Jewish in the first place one had to either undergo a religious conversion to Judaism or be descended from someone who underwent a religious conversion to Judaism.

        || … anyway, like i said it’s not something i take a position on nor do i think it’s a settled matter within jewish communities … ||

        Doesn’t matter. The fact remains that Jewish is a religion-based identity and, consequently, “Jewish State” is a religion-supremacist construct.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        January 19, 2019, 6:38 pm

        “With 80 percent intermarriage rate…”

        And every intermarriage is the best chance there is to add more people to Judaism’s embrace. Wouldn’t you think?

        I would, but I’m not fully conversant with ‘zero-sum Judaism’ and its theology of deprosyletism.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        January 20, 2019, 2:12 am

        “all it takes is one jewish person to not base their (jewish) identity on religion (aka a secular jew) and it sort of blows the concept of “religion-based” out of the water”, says Annie.
        /carriage return/
        It does that, sure. Enough to show that it is not a “religion-based” identification at all, no matter the Zionist pretense.
        Which means that anyone not religiously Jewish is basing hisher “identification” on heredity.
        Which in turn means that it is a purely racial identification.
        But it is not just racial. It is also racist by being based on nothing but total fabricated myth. So we can correct the statement into “racist identity”.
        /carriage return/
        “anyway, like i said it’s not something i take a position on”
        /carriage return/
        You don’t? Seems to me you are taking a position on it, and how, by deliberately choosing to be bullshitted by scam artists and ignoring the hair-rising consequences. And writing to discredit any unmasking of this bullshit.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        January 20, 2019, 1:33 pm

        “or recognizing all the offspring of jewish males as jewish”.

        Man, I tell ya’ it’s hard to keep up. Judaism now descends through the male line? Not the matriarchal?

      • annie
        annie
        January 20, 2019, 1:56 pm

        everybody descends from 2 people, that’s all i’m saying.

  2. catalan
    catalan
    January 19, 2019, 3:39 pm

    “let them fight over this stuff, they’ll never all agree with each other over it anyway.” Annie
    Actually the endless sophistry about who is Jewish is some kind of Mondoweiss phenonomenon. In the vast majority of cases, Jews just know – like if your name is Goldberg, or Cohen, or Levy you are Jewish and it is not something you spend your life analyzing. After all, most Jews study quite a bit and become professsionals. No time for endless analysis. The whole religion vs nation debate is so old and cliched that it is a miracle it still continues. I also don’t see the benefit of it because the eljay logic – they are a religion therefore no state- it’s kind of old as Israelis are clearly a people now. Either way, it seems everyone is satisfied with the the current situation. You think you are “winning” and that I am a confused bafoon. Israeli is in the top five happiest countries. And American Jews seem to be doing better than ever. So in a sense it’s a perfect situation – everyone is “winning”.

    • annie
      annie
      January 19, 2019, 5:06 pm

      You think you are “winning”…everyone is “winning”

      placing quotemarks around your own words in your argument as if you were quoting someone? try harder — like nixing the strawman crutch. and i don’t think you’re confused just because you claim to be. i was clearly being sarcastic when i wrote i think we all grasp how very confusing all of this is for you.

      —-

      the endless sophistry about who is Jewish is some kind of Mondoweiss phenonomenon.

      “The whole religion vs nation debate” being “old and cliched” is more akin to what is jewish, not who is jewish and it’s very alive and definitely not limited to mondoweiss.

      • catalan
        catalan
        January 19, 2019, 5:12 pm

        “not who is jewish and it’s very alive and definitely not limited to mondoweiss.” Annie
        A white Anglo Saxon American born Protestant whose job is to insult on Twitter explains to an immigrant Jew from the poorest country in Europe who works for a living about what it is to be Jewish. Socialism at its best.

      • eljay
        eljay
        January 19, 2019, 8:37 pm

        || catalan: … A white Anglo Saxon American … explains to an immigrant Jew from the poorest country in Europe who works for a living about what it is to be Jewish. … ||

        That’s a strange accusation coming from a self-proclaimed New Mexican with Arab and Italian ancestry.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        January 20, 2019, 3:08 am

        Annie,
        /carriage return/
        “placing quotemarks around your own words in your argument as if you were quoting someone?”
        /carriage return/
        Again? Be fair. See:
        https://www.grammarly.com/blog/quotation-marks/
        /carriage return/
        Scroll down to section “Other Uses of Quotation Marks: Titles of Short Works, Words as Words, Scare Quotes”. Not an authority, but it’s online and the summary there fully agrees with the established usage books and general US consensus.

      • annie
        annie
        January 20, 2019, 7:16 pm

        looks like i’m late to the party. echi, never heard of /carriage return/ but i will check out your link. it will be interesting if it says it’s ok to make up ideas out of whole cloth and attribute them to someone else (placing “you think” in front of them), who did not express those thoughts, using quotemarks no less. anyway, i remain intrigued.

        it still appears to me as a strawman, arguing against an idea or position someone didn’t express. but i would have to review the exchange. it’s been a few days.

        catalan, i wasn’t born protestant, my parents for the most part were anti religion (and it was suggested, subtlety, to not reveal that, because religious people would be offended). primarily, anti-christian (my mother had an aversion to the southern baptist religious culture of the south -long story and i think this sentiment was a key point in my father marrying her to ensure his children would not be roped into a childhood of the church, like he had to endure) .

        so to suggest i was “born Protestant” is completely inaccurate. my siblings and i were not baptized either.

        an immigrant Jew from the poorest country in Europe who works for a living about what it is to be Jewish

        here’s what i said (italics added):

        ““The whole religion vs nation debate” being “old and cliched” is more akin to what is jewish, not who is jewish.”

        is this your idea of me explaining to you “what it is to be Jewish”? interesting. i’m sure someone else can fill us in on what the obligations of being part of this nation is. i have no further comment on that topic.

        btw, just because i don’t brag about it non stop like you, i also work for a living, albeit self employed (non mondoweiss related) and quite successful. put myself through college (back when it was cheap, rent too) and wasn’t born w/a silver spoon. had just one bicycle my entire childhood (it was too big when it was gifted to me, used, the best bike ever) and like my siblings, got 2 pairs of new shoes every fall before school opened. i always felt lucky but know very well what it means to work hard. iow, your violin routine doesn’t impress me.

      • annie
        annie
        January 20, 2019, 8:03 pm

        echi, checking out your link now.

        it seems everyone is satisfied with the the current situation. You think you are “winning”

        so you think these are scare quotes? whatever, i find it to be an excruciatingly sadistic mocking form of argument while a genocide is being carried out.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        January 21, 2019, 12:42 pm

        Annie,

        A point concerning punctuation is just that. No need to connect it to anything else.

        You’ll also observe that Catalan subscribes to the Ottoman & Zionist theory of religion as an inherited trait –just like tribal “non-religious Jews”.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        January 21, 2019, 1:09 pm

        “catalan”, as an American Citizen, you are entitled to all the Zionism you can afford.
        How much have you bought?

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      January 19, 2019, 6:19 pm

      Catalan: “I also don’t see the benefit of it because the eljay logic – they are a religion therefore no state- it’s kind of old as Israelis are clearly a people now.”

      Oh boy. Jews and Israelis are not the same. Israel claims that an Israeli nation doesn’t even exist. And Jews are not a constitutive people (“nation”) like the French, German, Palestinians or any other real nation of a country.

      And it was the Zionists who started this discussion to justify their conquest, expulsion and violation of the right to self determination for the people of Palestine.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      January 19, 2019, 6:38 pm

      catalan: “You think you are “winning” and that I am a confused bafoon. Israeli is in the top five happiest countries. And American Jews seem to be doing better than ever.”

      Yes, like the Sovjets and Afrikaaners. Wonderful!

    • eljay
      eljay
      January 19, 2019, 6:43 pm

      || catalan: … I also don’t see the benefit of it because the eljay logic – they are a religion therefore no state- it’s kind of old as Israelis are clearly a people now. … ||

      There’s nothing “eljay logic” about the fact that:
      – Israelis (Jewish and non-Jewish) are a nationality;
      – Jews are citizens of homelands all over the world who choose to embrace the religion-based identity of Jewish;
      – the former have a state (albeit one that is currently religion-supremacist);
      – the latter are not entitled to that (or to any other) religion-supremacist state.

      • catalan
        catalan
        January 19, 2019, 10:40 pm

        “That’s a strange accusation coming from a self-proclaimed New Mexican with Arab and Italian ancestry.” Eljay
        Well ancestry says I have these genetic ancestors. But obvioiusly I am Jewish. I mean I have a Jewish name. I am not religious and to be honest simply don’t understand anything you say about “identity”. However, you probably agree with talkback that Jews are “doomed” unless they become “moral”. So in plain English, unless Jewish women stop drinking Pepsi and buying lingerie from Victoria Secret (aka BDS) they are “doomed”. What are we speaking about in terms of doom – are we talking death camps, labor camps, expulsions? Are your saying that if Jews don’t do BDS the government will be rounding them up?

      • eljay
        eljay
        January 20, 2019, 6:07 pm

        || catalan: “That’s a strange accusation coming from a self-proclaimed New Mexican with Arab and Italian ancestry.” Eljay
        Well ancestry says I have these genetic ancestors. But obvioiusly I am Jewish. I mean I have a Jewish name. … ||

        How is it obvious? catalan isn’t a Jewish name and “ancestry says” that you’re Arab and Italian.

        Anyway, having a Jewish name doesn’t mean that you’re Jewish any more than having a Croatian name means that I’m Croatian.

        || … However, you probably agree with talkback that Jews are “doomed” unless they become “moral”. … ||

        Depends on what “doomed” means. If it means that all Jews will eventually suffer blowback for the actions of hateful and immoral Zionists like you, sure, Jews are “doomed”.

        If, instead, it means what you recently wrote…

        ” … it’s only a matter of time until there are no Jews outside of Israel (and since Israel is itself doomed there won’t be any Jews at all) … “

        …I disagree that Jews are “doomed”.

      • annie
        annie
        January 20, 2019, 8:15 pm

        I am not religious and to be honest simply don’t understand anything you say about “identity”.

        lol! did you forget about an immigrant Jew from the poorest country in Europe who works for a living

        how is that not pulling the identity card? you’re using your supposed dna (again) for sympathy. you never lived in that poor country right? you’re Arab/Italian/Jewish?

        and speaking of new mexico, my mom was raised there, grandfather has a historic district in albuguerque named after him near old town, which he helped build. he built some gorgeous sections of town. my son was born at the holy cross in toas and his father raised there. i probably have more new mexico bonafides than you’ll ever have. just thought i’d mention.

      • catalan
        catalan
        January 20, 2019, 8:22 pm

        “you never lived in that poor country right? “
        I grew up in the poor country. 24 years. As to your New Mexico bona fides I have lived here for 12 years including quite a few working for a government.

      • annie
        annie
        January 20, 2019, 8:31 pm

        catalan, i can’t think of a person who comments here who has written more autobiographical comments than yourself. i could i have missed you grew up in a poor european country for 24 years. was it worse off than gaza? just curious.

      • catalan
        catalan
        January 21, 2019, 1:01 pm

        “You’ll also observe that Catalan subscribes to the Ottoman & Zionist theory of religion as an inherited trait “ echinococcus
        Nothing of the sort. There are non religious Jews – I am an example. This is not as complicated as you make it out to be. Now I agree that down the road, the non religious Jews living outside of Israel are bound to disappear – by simply merging with the general population. Like all my cousins that are from mixed marriages do not see themselves as very Jewish and their kids not at all. That’s just reality. In general people who are not religious is very recent thing. Almost everyone was religious in the 19 century. I don’t subscribe to any theory and try to adapt to what may come. But I do believe that the crowd is smarter than the individual. The interest rate on Israeli bonds and the value of Israeli stocks show me that there is much less risk to Israel to than you or Annie or Misterioso suggest. Again, investors can be wrong; and yet they are much less likely to be wrong than anonymous bloggers on Mondo. To each their own either way I am just fine. I rarely visit Jewish institutions and the ones I do have decent security so I am not extremely worried about getting shot by some madman.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 21, 2019, 1:51 pm

        Catalan: “However, you probably agree with talkback that Jews are “doomed” unless they become “moral”. So in plain English, unless Jewish women stop drinking Pepsi and buying lingerie from Victoria Secret (aka BDS) they are “doomed”.”

        Yet another example of Catalan being dishonest, stupid or both. Is there any position (mine, BDS) you don’t distort and twist until you sound like a shmock?

        It ist obvious that I was talking about the Jews behaviour towards Palestinians. But it is quite revealing that you don’t even consider that morality has something to do with someones behaviour towards others.

        Catalan: “What are we speaking about in terms of doom – are we talking death camps, labor camps, expulsions?”

        You are too imature and shallow to understand what I mean.

        annie: “catalan, i can’t think of a person who comments here who has written more autobiographical comments than yourself.”

        Prototype narcissist.

      • catalan
        catalan
        January 21, 2019, 2:45 pm

        “It ist obvious that I was talking about the Jews behaviour towards Palestinians. “ talkback
        Ok well I have no behavior towards the Palestinians except occasionally visiting some Palestinian restaurants in Albuquerque. I can assure you that I am always corteous and leave tips etc. I was assuming that you are blaming me for something. You were saying “Jews” so I thought you are referring to me. Perhaps you should specify Israelis or Israeli Jews. Since most of us in America don’t have any behavior towards the Palestinians except business dealings.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        January 21, 2019, 3:41 pm

        ” You were saying “Jews” so I thought you are referring to me. “

        At 42%? Does that even satisfy the Nation-State Law for admission to Israel? I don’t think you have to worry.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 22, 2019, 8:24 am

        Catalan: “Ok well I … I can assure you that I … I was assuming that you are blaming me ..”

        Yes Catalan. You are indeed the main issue of every discussion on MW.

        Catalan: “You were saying “Jews” so I thought you are referring to me.”

        I must have been, since you made perfectly clear that “moral” means to you ‘what’s good for the Jews’ instead of how people behave towards others. The irony is that this very same psychopathic view prevents you from understanding why Jews could be doomed unless they become moral.

      • catalan
        catalan
        January 22, 2019, 11:19 am

        “The irony is that this very same psychopathic view “
        I believe in a two state solution in the Middle East along the 1967 lines. Why is that view psychopathic? Because I don’t do BDS and drink at Starbucks and shop at the Gap? Or because it’s not based on the Partition lines? But virtually all countries, even Iran view the 1967 lines as the basis for negotiations. Is the whole world psychopathic then? Are you saying that Abbas is a psychopath because he declared the Palestinian state on the 1967 lines? And what does mental health have to do with borders anyway?

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 23, 2019, 8:26 am

        Talkback: “I must have been, since you made perfectly clear that “moral” means to you ‘what’s good for the Jews’ instead of how people behave towards others. The irony is that this very same psychopathic view prevents you from understanding why Jews could be doomed unless they become moral.”

        Catalan: “I believe in a two state solution in the Middle East along the 1967 lines. Why is that view psychopathic?”

        A typical discussion with Catalan.

        It’s like I’m saying: “Sugar is bad for your teeth”. And you response: “I brush my teeth. How can brushing my teeth be bad?

        It seems that it makes no sense to talk about anything else than you, Catalan.

  3. catalan
    catalan
    January 20, 2019, 7:04 pm

    “it means that all Jews will eventually suffer blowback for the actions of hateful and immoral Zionists like you, sure, Jews are “doomed”” eljay
    This is good, we are making progress. So my actions – I am assuming my comments here – will result in “blowback” for the rest of the Jews. What are we talking about, in plain English? Shootings at synagogues and JCCs by lone wolf types? Or are you saying that the American government will intern me over my comments here? Or are you talking about some kind of organized militia violence against Jews? I am having a hard time imagining American society with its myriad problems and 350 million people (probably 500 million within my lifetime) worrying so much about either Jews or Palestinians but I am open to surprises.

    • eljay
      eljay
      January 20, 2019, 8:05 pm

      || catalan: This is good, we are making progress. So my actions – I am assuming my comments here – will result in “blowback” for the rest of the Jews. What are we talking about, in plain English? … ||

      I have no idea what form blowback might take. And I find disturbing your pleasure in anticipating it.

    • annie
      annie
      January 20, 2019, 8:20 pm

      This is good, we are making progress.

      happy now catalan. your sadistic inflammatory rhetoric is paying off.

      What are we talking about, in plain English?

      oh now you want plain english? done with mockingly claiming everyone is quite satisfied with the genocide taking place?

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      January 21, 2019, 1:04 pm

      “What are we talking about, in plain English?”

      The long step down from elite to equal.

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