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Palestinian-American congresswoman Rashida Tlaib from Michigan was sworn into Congress today wearing a traditional embroidered Palestinian dress known as a thobe, inspiring many to post images of themselves and relatives to social media wearing similar dresses.

Writing in Elle today, Tlaib explained why she opted against business attire to pay homage to her mother and her Palestinian heritage with the dress:

“Throughout my career in public service, the residents I have had the privilege of fighting for have embraced who I am, especially my Palestinian roots. This is what I want to bring to the United States Congress, an unapologetic display of the fabric of the people in this country. This is why I decided to wear a thobe when I am sworn into the 116th Congress.

My Yama (mother in Arabic) came to the United States at age of 20, and just like any immigrant parent, she wants all of her children to succeed, but without giving up on our roots and culture.

As a young girl, I watched my mother hand stitch thobes while sitting on the floor with a lamp at her side. She would make the small designs of flowers and different shapes. Just thinking about it brings up so many memories of my mother and how proud she was of being Palestinian.”

Days before Tlaib was sworn into Congress she announced she planned to wear her thobe, inspiring professor and writer Susan Darraj to start a campaign of women supporting Tlaib’s historic win to represent Michigan’s 13th Congressional district. Last November Tlaib became the first Muslim Palestinian-American woman elected to Congress.
Darraj posted an image of herself in her own thobe, writing, “Every thobe is a dress embroidered with the stories, the loves, the tragedies of Palestinian women. The world will never be broken, because we will always stitch it back together & make it beautiful.”

Thobes come in many colors and materials. Though diverse in appearance, the designs are uniformly thoughtful. The intricate patterns and tones represent different Palestinian cities and town. Some women posted pictures of themselves in dresses that were said to be more than 100 years old, passed down through generations.

After the swearing in, Tlaib met with supporters in her office in the Rayburn building in Washington DC, meeting of her supporters who came dressed in thobes.

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  1. Ismail
    Ismail on January 3, 2019, 5:13 pm

    Y’know, intellectually speaking, I’m not a fan of identity politics. I also don’t like identifying through flags, sports teams, et al. Guess I’m kind of an unreconstructed Marxist – class trumps all.

    But I’m telling you, seeing these pictures literally brought a tear to my eye and made my chest flutter.

    Sometimes the head rules, sometimes the heart….

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus on January 4, 2019, 7:09 am

      This has got nothing to do with identity politics –at least not yet, not as long as the Palestinians are being made disappear, physically and culturally. It is open resistance to the cultural annihilation politics by the racist, genocidal dictatorship of the Zionist entity and its US branch.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso on January 4, 2019, 9:04 am

      @Ismail

      “But I’m telling you, seeing these pictures literally brought a tear to my eye and made my chest flutter.”

      Me too!!

      As for the Zionists, “these pictures” scare them to death. In the back of their minds, they know they are going to lose. In short, 70 years of trying to pound a square peg into a round hole.

    • genesto
      genesto on January 4, 2019, 12:04 pm

      This is about honoring culture and heritage. It has nothing to do with identity politics!

  2. annie
    annie on January 3, 2019, 5:14 pm

    this is incredible, just tears. look how beautiful they are.

    great job allison.

  3. JWalters
    JWalters on January 3, 2019, 5:46 pm

    Listening to The World on NPR today, I was jolted to hear host Marco Werman actually talking about Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and the thobe. Usually Werman is a garden variety Israeli cover-up stooge. Let’s see if he will now go beyond the clothing and discuss the politics of these new members of Congress.

  4. Kay24
    Kay24 on January 3, 2019, 7:04 pm

    I love the work and the look. What a beautiful garment. Perhaps some designer (benefitting Palestinians of course) can start a business, and make this available for us too. :))

    This is a huge achievement for the Palestinian people. Finally they have a voice in the US Congress. Good luck to Rasida Tlaib. Make your people proud!

  5. Mooser
    Mooser on January 3, 2019, 7:24 pm

    I’ve been admiring the colors and patterns for years here. Glad to know more about the thobe.

  6. Ellen
    Ellen on January 3, 2019, 7:27 pm

    What do they do now? How can they threaten her? How can she be bullied into talking the talk to protect her career, her future and her family?

    I can hear the gnashed teeth and feel the flutter of hand wringing all along K Street, Connecticut and Wisconsin Avenues.

    Maybe the Emperor has no clothes? But she has the Thobe!

    I also do not like identity politics at all. (For many reasons that go beyond this subject now.) But in this case and all considered, great that she is proudly wearing a beautiful stitched thobe.

  7. RoHa
    RoHa on January 3, 2019, 8:24 pm

    Beautiful garments.

    But why are the mother and child in the top picture making insulting gestures?

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso on January 4, 2019, 9:15 am

      @ RoHa

      “But why are the mother and child in the top picture making insulting gestures?”

      They are NOT making “insulting gestures.” Rashida Tlaib and the young girl, Mayaar, are making the “V’ for victory sign as did Winston Churchill during WWII.

      • RoHa
        RoHa on January 4, 2019, 7:30 pm

        I suspected that the insult might be unintentional. The photographer should have told them to turn their hands around if they wanted a V for victory.

        Futue te impsum is not a good message for Palestinians to give to the world.

      • RoHa
        RoHa on January 4, 2019, 8:03 pm

        Ipsum.

      • annie
        annie on January 5, 2019, 6:29 am

        The photographer should have told them to turn their hands around if they wanted a V for victory.

        the photographer, Adam Shapiro, and American, probably doesn’t know about this british/european custom. as explained in wikipedia:

        Sometimes foreigners visiting the countries mentioned above use the “two-fingered salute” without knowing it is offensive to the natives, for example when ordering two beers in a noisy pub, or in the case of the United States president George H. W. Bush, who, while touring Australia in 1992, attempted to give a “peace sign” to a group of farmers in Canberra—who were protesting about U.S. farm subsidies—and instead gave the insulting V sign.[26]

        iow, this is not a custom americans are familiar with. i had never heard of this insult until i read your comment. here, the sign is either used as a peace sign or a V for victory.

      • RoHa
        RoHa on January 5, 2019, 9:29 pm

        The forks (as it is often called in Australia) is so widely used in English-speaking countries and Her Majesty’s Territories and Realms beyond the sea that I find it astonishing* that Americans (many of whom speak a language not wholly dissimilar to English) do not know of it. Especially since the victory sign is well known in America.

        (* Though not in the case of GHWBush. He was one of the brighter presidents, but that is not much of a commendation. But he managed to outdo the V sign by vomiting on the Japanese Prime Minister. )

    • gamal
      gamal on January 5, 2019, 9:41 am

      “probably doesn’t know about this british/european custom”

      it would appear Churchill was unaware of this British custom, he was half American, or perhaps Roha is discriminating, its all ok till an Arab does it.

      https://goo.gl/images/XW3eMp

      • RoHa
        RoHa on January 5, 2019, 9:13 pm

        Churchill was too upper class to understand plebian vulgarities.

        ” On 19 July, Prime Minister Winston Churchill referred approvingly to the V for Victory campaign in a speech,[37] from which point he started using the V hand sign. Early on he sometimes gestured palm in (sometimes with a cigar between the fingers).[38] Later in the war, he used palm out.[39] After aides explained to the aristocratic Churchill what the palm in gesture meant to other classes, he made sure to use the appropriate sign.[25][40] Yet the double-entendre of the gesture might have contributed to its popularity, “for a simple twist of hand would have presented the dorsal side in a mocking snub to the common enemy”.[41]”

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus on January 6, 2019, 5:35 am

        This American here always thought that the sign was a regular back-of-the-hand to the Nazis, with a letter V pretext invented later for the prudish kind –the same kind who won’t allow calling the Zionists what they are. If Ms Tlaib can call “mother…” a president she wants to impeach because he is not of her party, one hopes she can give two fingers to her Zionist fellow Democrats.

  8. gamal
    gamal on January 3, 2019, 8:36 pm

    “wearing a traditional embroidered Palestinian dress known as a thobe”

    Terrorist Couture: Salman Rushdie interviews Edward Said in 1986:

    SR: You also talk about a photo-article in a fashion magazine, under the headline ‘Terrorist Couture’, which claims that the Palestinians are not really Palestinians because they have simply hijacked Arab dress and renamed it Palestinian.

    ES: We do it all the time!

    SR: The article also claims that this supposedly distinctive dress is not that of the people but of the upper middle class. Referring to the American author of the article, Sharon Churcher, you write: ‘In the larger scheme of things . . . she is somebody doing a hack job on a hack fashion magazine.’ And yet, you say you feel the need to go right back to the beginning, to explain the whole history of Palestine in order to unmake Sharon Churcher’s lie and show that this is in fact genuinely popular Palestinian dress. Doesn’t this need to go back again and again over the same story become tiring?

    ES: It does, but you do it anyway. It is like trying to find the magical moment when everything starts, as in Midnight’s Children. You know midnight, and so you go back. But it is very hard to do that because you have to work out everything and get past a lot of questions in the daily press about why Palestinians don’t just stay where they are and stop causing trouble. That immediately launches you into a tremendous harangue, as you explain to people: ‘My mother was born in Nazareth, my father was born in Jerusalem . . . ’ The interesting thing is that there seems to be nothing in the world which sustains the story: unless you go on telling it, it will just drop and disappear.

    SR: The need to be perpetually told.

    ES: Exactly. The other narratives have a kind of permanence or institutional existence and you just have to try to work away at them.”

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Qt9jOmqoxsUJ:https://newleftreview.org/I/160/edward-said-on-palestinian-identity-a-conversation-with-salman-rushdie+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

  9. edwardm
    edwardm on January 3, 2019, 9:47 pm

    I love this garb. What a beautiful witness to bear. As if to say: “We exist! Don’t deny it!”
    …Melted my heart I swear, melted my heart I swear, the day I said farewell to you, my heart melted I swear….

    https://youtu.be/pl–Y7HIxMw

  10. tamarque
    tamarque on January 4, 2019, 9:27 am

    Generally I am an anti-dress person but seeing these pictures and the incredible craftswork of these thobes so moved me. I feel such joy for Tlaib’s ascendency to Congress, not just for her, her Palestinian community, but for all of us. We need to take pride in supporting all of our citizens and their rich history. We need to take stands in support of people who particularly are fighting for survival in our racist, genocidal world.

  11. genesto
    genesto on January 4, 2019, 12:08 pm

    I’m sitting here with a smile on my face, since it’s rare that my Arabic culture is even recognized, let alone honored the way this brave and wonderful woman is doing so – and in Congress of all places!

  12. Misterioso
    Misterioso on January 4, 2019, 3:17 pm

    Here’s a New York Times article regarding Rashida Tlaib, et al, and the beautiful dresses:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/us/politics/rashida-tlaib-palestinian-thobe.html

    “As Rashida Tlaib Is Sworn In, Palestinian-Americans Respond With #TweetYourThobe” New York Times, Jan. 3/19, By Karen Zraick

    “The new congresswoman from Michigan wore a thobe, a traditional Palestinian dress with elaborate embroidery, to her swearing-in, and her supporters posted photos of themselves in their own.

    “As Rashida Tlaib arrived on Capitol Hill to be sworn into the House of Representatives on Thursday, she was wearing a distinctive outfit: a traditional Palestinian thobe, or dress, adorned with the elaborate, hand-stitched embroidery known as tatreez.

    “Ms. Tlaib, a Democrat from Michigan who is the first Palestinian-American woman to serve in Congress, had posted a photo of the dress on Instagram on Dec. 14, garnering 11,000 likes — but also criticisms, including racist comments.

    “That spurred a supporter, the novelist Susan Muaddi Darraj, to create a plan to celebrate Ms. Tlaib’s achievement and educate people about Palestinian embroidery, which is loaded with symbolism and traditionally done by women. She came up with the hashtag #TweetYourThobe, intended as a call to action, and started a private Facebook group.

    “In two weeks, it grew to 8,000 members. And on Thursday, they went public, sharing photos of themselves and loved ones wearing thobes on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram.

    “’I’ve just been tearing up all day looking at some of these pictures,’ Ms. Darraj said on Thursday afternoon, speaking by phone from Baltimore.

    “’It’s especially moving when you see women wearing thobes that their great-grandmothers made by hand,’ she added. ‘It’s just extraordinary, and it’s a visual testament to the relationships between mothers and daughters that we have in our culture, and I think other people can relate to that.’

    “In an article for Elle published on Thursday, Ms. Tlaib explained why she decided to wear the thobe.

    “’Throughout my career in public service, the residents I have had the privilege of fighting for have embraced who I am, especially my Palestinian roots,’ she wrote. ‘This is what I want to bring to the United States Congress, an unapologetic display of the fabric of the people in this country.’

    “She described her experience as a girl watching her mother, who came to the United States at age 20, hand-stitch the traditional dresses.

    “’Just like any immigrant parent, she wants all of her children to succeed, but without giving up on our roots and culture,’ Ms. Tlaib wrote. She added a special hashtag for her mother in her Instagram post: #ForMyYama, an Arabic word for mother.

    “Ms. Tlaib was also sworn in using a centuries-old English-language Quran that belonged to Thomas Jefferson.

    “The knowledge of how to do tatreez is often passed down from mother to daughter, said Wafa Ghnaim, a Brooklyn-based tatreez artist and educator. Looking closely at pictures of Ms. Tlaib’s dress, Ms. Ghnaim saw symbols and stories, not just designs: the cypress trees around the waist, for example, which signify resilience and are often used in celebratory garments. The intricate designs extend to nearly every inch of the dress, another sign that it was meant for a joyous occasion.

    “In her book, ‘Tatreez & Tea,’ Ms. Ghnaim explains the symbolism of what she calls an endangered folk art. The commercialization of embroidery and the continuing displacement of Palestinian people have led to a decline in the practice of tatreez, she said.

    “But it remains a potent signifier. Some women even participated in the photo-sharing from abroad, like Samar Al-Barghouthi, a Palestinian who lives in Bahrain. She shared a picture of herself wearing a thobe for a party at the women’s university where she teaches political science.

    “’To see Rashida wearing her dress, I felt really moved,’ Dr. Barghouti said. ‘She is representing Michigan and still keeping her identity.’

    “Lena Khalaf Tuffaha, a Palestinian-American poet from Redmond, Wash., noted that the designs often signify a particular village or area. And she said the virtual celebration on Thursday — with Palestinian-American women she knew, and with others she had never met in person — was a ‘beautiful festival atmosphere.’

    “’Women are often invisible in history,’ she said. ‘This is a really powerful way of making women’s lives visible, especially Palestinian women who are often charged with keeping the culture alive, and they do it in the face of immense suffering.’”

  13. Jon66
    Jon66 on January 4, 2019, 5:32 pm

    I think this is great. I hope it catches on. For the next swearing in at the time of the 2020 election we could see kimonos, kilts, saris, shuka, sombrero, lederhosen, and maybe even a bamileke elephant mask.
    And the Jews could bring hummus and felafel in case anyone gets hungry.

    • Talkback
      Talkback on January 4, 2019, 6:25 pm

      Jon66: “And the Jews could bring hummus and felafel in case anyone gets hungry.”

      Nope. That would be Egypt.

      • gamal
        gamal on January 4, 2019, 7:14 pm

        “Nope. That would be Egypt”

        thank you of course and the correct way to eat Ta’amiya (falafel) is with ful medames if your being authentic.

      • annie
        annie on January 5, 2019, 6:10 am

        while dancing the dabke, how apropos for representatives of the other colonialist state.

    • eljay
      eljay on January 4, 2019, 6:37 pm

      || Jon66: … And the Jews could bring hummus and felafel in case anyone gets hungry. ||

      Which “the Jews” are going to bring “hummus and felafel”?

      It’s strange – and not just a little disturbing – how you Zionists so easily and anti-Semitically lump all Jews into one undifferentiated mass.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 4, 2019, 9:33 pm

        Eljay,
        Why of course it would be the ones who invented it. Silly boy.

      • eljay
        eljay on January 4, 2019, 10:50 pm

        || Jon66: Eljay,
        Why of course it would be the ones who invented it. Silly boy. ||

        And which “the Jews” would those be? Silly supremacist.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer on January 5, 2019, 12:36 am

        @jon66

        Whoever invented it is long dead and we can be assured they wont be bringing it. Any other stupid comments?

        Maybe you should enter discourse with Catalan who also thinks the achievements of others gives him some sort of street cred. Loser.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 5, 2019, 4:46 am

        jon66: “Why of course it would be the ones who invented it. Silly boy”.

        Jews neither invented Hummus, nor Falafel, silly boy. Not even cherry tomatoes. Anything else you need to claim as “Jewish”, which isn’t and has never been? Seems to be a Zionist trait.

      • zaid
        zaid on January 5, 2019, 4:47 am

        If they invented it then why dont they have a hebrew/ yiddish name for it.

        Why do they use the arabic words ( hummus/ falafel ) for it.

      • Jackdaw
        Jackdaw on January 5, 2019, 6:20 am
      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 5, 2019, 7:41 am

        Jackdaw: “The list goes on.”

        Not Israeli either. Oh wait, I forgot that under the Apartheid Junta only Jews have a legal right to national self determination.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 5, 2019, 7:54 am

        Zaid: “If they invented it then why dont they have a hebrew/ yiddish name for it.

        Why do they use the arabic words ( hummus/ falafel ) for it.”

        Netanyahu (minister of health) is not as fast as Katz (minister of transport) to wipe of arabic names of the map.
        https://www.counterpunch.org/2009/07/17/israeli-road-signs/

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 5, 2019, 8:55 am

        Guys
        Sorry
        I was just joking. You all get so crazed about “cultural appropriation” and who invented what. Unless there is a patent I don’t know how you can know with any certainty and most of what we have is an evolution and synthesis. Was the Earl of Sandwhich really the first guy to put meat between two pieces of bread? I doubt it.
        As I have said before, I think that borrowing and adapting clothing, food, etc is a human trait that should be encouraged, not criticized. Borrowing a clothing pattern is not a cause of alarm.
        If she wants to wear her moms dress why should anyone object?

      • annie
        annie on January 5, 2019, 10:16 am

        Sorry
        I was just joking. You all get so crazed about “cultural appropriation”

        thanks for admitting israelis have culturally appropriated hummus and felafel.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 5, 2019, 11:01 am

        Annie,
        No prob. Happy to help.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on January 5, 2019, 1:46 pm

        And the most wonderful thing of all about Jewish accomplishments is that they are given to the world with no expectation of returns. It’s just simple humanitarian generosity.
        To do otherwise would be ignoble.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 5, 2019, 6:33 pm

        jon66: “Guys
        Sorry
        I was just joking.”

        Don’t bother. We know that almost every comment you make is just a joke. We are just playing along. Btw. the best jokes are when you pretent to defend Israel. Comedy gold!

      • Marnie
        Marnie on January 7, 2019, 3:40 am

        @Jackdaw –
        I wonder if gefilte fish isn’t originally scandanavian or icelandic, but it is certainly is claimed as a jewish ‘delicacy’. Go ahead, claim that one away.

        Fish and chips and bagels, thank you jewish inventors, love the stuff.

        As far as hummus and pita – forget about it. Indigenous palestinian fare.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus on January 7, 2019, 5:03 pm

        John66:

        “As I have said before, I think that borrowing and adapting clothing, food, etc is a human trait that should be encouraged, not criticized”

        Of course you will “encourage” the cultural annihilation of the Palestinians, invaded and genocided by your so-called people, and applaud the appropriation of your victim’s accomplishments. Duh.

        It’s a “human trait” when done by normal people; when done by colonial invaders and genocidaires, it’s definitely inhuman.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus on January 7, 2019, 5:05 pm

        Jackdaw,

        The stuff you listed is Ashkenazi. Not “Jewish”. Mediterraneans won’t touch gefilte stuff even is they are starving.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 7, 2019, 7:37 pm

        Echi,
        Can you give me a principle for when adopting food or elements of another culture is wrong other than your usual,- If it’s done by Israelis it’s wrong?

      • Marnie
        Marnie on January 8, 2019, 1:08 am

        @Jon66 –
        “Can you give me a principle for when adopting food or elements of another culture is wrong other than your usual,- If it’s done by Israelis it’s wrong?”

        What a drama queen! Adopting food and elements of another culture without acknowledging that culture is wrong all the time, whoever does it; especially if the intent is to make the other culture disappear…

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus on January 8, 2019, 2:24 am

        John 66, it’s past time for remedial reading lessons.

        This Zionist’s so-called question
        “Echi, Can you give me a principle for when adopting food or elements of another culture is wrong other than your usual,- If it’s done by Israelis it’s wrong?”

        comes in response to
        “… Of course you will “encourage” the cultural annihilation of the Palestinians, invaded and genocided by your so-called people, and applaud the appropriation of your victim’s accomplishments. Duh.
        It’s a “human trait” when done by normal people; when done by colonial invaders and genocidaires, it’s definitely inhuman.”

        Submitted to the attention of those who expect any kind of benefit from discussing with these people. Time is way better spent discussing among us about how to help Palestinian resistance.

      • eljay
        eljay on January 8, 2019, 5:43 am

        || Jon66: Echi,
        Can you give me a principle for when adopting food or elements of another culture is wrong other than your usual,- If it’s done by Israelis it’s wrong? ||

        Israelis? You said “the Jews” invented and were going to bring “hummus and felafel”.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 8, 2019, 8:41 am

        jon66: “Echi,
        Can you give me a principle for when adopting food or elements of another culture is wrong other than your usual,- If it’s done by Israelis it’s wrong?”

        They don’t adopt. They take it through violence and than pretend it has always been theirs. That’s the Zionist path.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 8, 2019, 10:06 am

        “They don’t adopt. They take it through violence and than pretend it has always been theirs. That’s the Zionist path.”

        Guess I missed the story of the Battle of Felafel or the War of Hummus Succession

      • catalan
        catalan on January 8, 2019, 10:31 am

        “Guess I missed the story of the Battle of Felafel or the War of Hummus Succession”
        Since I am 23 percent Italian (DNA!) I am allowed to make and even sell pizza then.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 8, 2019, 2:33 pm

        jon66: “Guess I missed the story of the Battle of Felafel or the War of Hummus Succession.”

        It all happens in the ongoing battle against the natives of Palestine. Steal their land, steal their culture, etc. and pretend that it has always been Jewish.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 8, 2019, 2:33 pm

        catalan: “Since I am 23 percent Italian (DNA!) I am allowed to make and even sell pizza then.”

        Pizza’s origin is Greek.

      • eljay
        eljay on January 8, 2019, 2:51 pm

        || Talkback: catalan: “Since I am 23 percent Italian (DNA!) I am allowed to make and even sell pizza then.”

        Pizza’s origin is Greek. ||

        Don’t argue with catalan. He’s so Italian that a while back he repeatedly insisted that authentic Italian pizza must have tomato sauce on it. (It doesn’t.)

      • catalan
        catalan on January 8, 2019, 2:57 pm

        “Pizza’s origin is Greek.” Talkback
        I have cousins from Thessaloniki. That was the center of the Balkan Jews. Does that allow me to make pizza?

      • Mooser
        Mooser on January 8, 2019, 4:00 pm

        ” That was the center of the Balkan Jews. Does that allow me to make pizza?”

        No, it just makes it impossible to cut the pie up. Nobody knows how the pieces will fit in the box.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 8, 2019, 4:23 pm

        Pizza-Greek
        I thought wheat originated from the Fertile Crescent.

        Next thing you’ll be telling me that pasta is Chinese.

        The whole thing is silly. Human cultures borrow, adopt, and transform elements from each other. That’s why it’s stupid to worry about this nonsense.

        “The Navy Invented Sex

        A Marine and a sailor were sitting in a bar one day arguing over which was the superior service.

        After a swig of beer the Marine says, ‘Well, we had Iwo Jima.’

        Arching his eyebrows, the sailor replies, ‘We had the Battle of Midway.

        ‘Not entirely true’, responded the Marine. ‘Some of those pilots were Marines, in fact, Henderson Field on Guadalcanal was named after a Marine pilot killed at the Battle of Midway.’

        The sailor responds, ‘Point taken.’

        The Marine then says, ‘We Marines were born at Tunn Tavern!’

        The sailor, nodding agreement, says, ‘But we had John Paul Jones.’

        The argument continued until the sailor comes up with what he thinks will end the discussion. With a flourish of finality he says…… ‘The Navy invented sex!’

        The Marine replies, ‘That is true, but it was the Marines who introduced it to women.’ “

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 8, 2019, 6:37 pm

        Jon66: “Next thing you’ll be telling me that pasta is Chinese.”

        Noodles were documented in China 700 years earlier than in Europe.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 8, 2019, 6:39 pm

        Catalan: “I have cousins from Thessaloniki. That was the center of the Balkan Jews. Does that allow me to make pizza?”

        It allows you to be a racist shmock and establish a national home in Greece through war and expulsion and claim that Greece had been Jewish for the last thousands years and Thessaloniki its eternal capital.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 8, 2019, 7:22 pm

        Talk,
        “Noodles were documented in China 700 years earlier than in Europe.”

        Of course.

        Please see:

        humorless adjective
        hu·​mor·​less | \ˈhyü-mər-ləs \
        Definition of humorless
        lacking a sense of humor

      • catalan
        catalan on January 8, 2019, 7:33 pm

        “It allows you to be a racist shmock and establish a national home in Greece”
        Dude I live in New Mexico – and work for a government. I am surrounded by 5 Indian reservations. My town is more than 90 percent Hispanic. We celebrate Christmas with a tree and all and my son says he is Jewish and Christian (not knowing what either means). How I am a racist? I have always defended open borders and open societies. I know no Hebrew and don’t practice Jewish rituals. I will never understand how insulting some New Mexican with zero ties to either Israel or Judaism helps the Palestinian cause. But be my guest, if calling me a racist helps bring peace to the Middle East, please continue. Small price to pay.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 9, 2019, 10:08 am

        @ Jon66

        Again:
        “We know that almost every comment you make is just a joke. We are just playing along. Btw. the best jokes are when you pretent to defend Israel. Comedy gold!”

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 9, 2019, 10:09 am

        Catalan: “How I am a racist?”

        I only said that you are allowed to be one.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on January 9, 2019, 11:49 am

        “The Navy Invented Sex”

        ROTFLMSJAO! And what did the IDF invent, may I ask?

        Of course, “Jon66” is both a US Navy and US Marine vet, so he’s got the right to tell stories from his military experience.

    • zaid
      zaid on January 4, 2019, 6:38 pm

      zionist tears

    • catalan
      catalan on January 5, 2019, 10:25 am

      “admitting israelis have culturally appropriated hummus and felafel.” Annie
      I culturally appropriated an entire country. Came from the corner of Europe and appropriated the language the food the literature and to top it off got a fancy job telling people what to do (in their government!) That beats the hummus that the Zionists apperopriared by a mile.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on January 5, 2019, 1:37 pm

        “I culturally appropriated an entire country. “ “catalan”

        ‘Patsh zich in tuchis und schrei “hooray”!’

      • amigo
        amigo on January 8, 2019, 8:04 pm

        “and to top it off got a fancy job telling people what to do (in their government!)” catalan

        Where I spend most of my time posting BS on MW .

        “apperopriared” catalan

        Is that a New Mexico native American Tribe.

    • Marnie
      Marnie on January 6, 2019, 7:40 am

      Sounds like sour grapes. Must be so hard to see what you stand for slip into obsolescense, while something fresh and invigorating hits the house.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 6, 2019, 11:23 am

        I’m hoping that the use of this fresh language, like calling the President a MF is not the death of respectful and civil dialogue. But perhaps you see this new generation of politicians more clearly than I. C-Span May become R rated.

      • Marnie
        Marnie on January 7, 2019, 12:07 am

        ‘perhaps you see this new generation of politicians’, blah, blah, blah. Wow, what a revelation. Well, I like what I see and hear. It’s been a real treat to watch republicans twist and shout about ‘motherfucker’ though were perfectly fine with tRUMP’s use of expletives in a meeting where he was losing his shit with the newly gavel-inized Nancy Pelosi, bragging about pussy, calling certain football players SOBs and his various ‘lockerroom talk’ on campaign rallies and in everyday language. Haven’t watched Joy Reid for quite a while, but she and her panel had a great discussion about the hypocrisy WRT Rashida Tlaib. I could not feel more proud of this freshman group of policy makers and in particular the eloquent Ilhan Omar from my alma mater, Minnesota. Youre so predictable Jon66 and your comments on this topic show more about your fear and prejudice than anything else. If you had a shred of honesty you’d admit that the election of the wannabe mafioso in chief. criminal at large, business failure, crooked contractor, draft-dodging MF put the nail in the coffin of ‘respectful and civil dialogue’ – going all the way back to his discovery of Twitter. ‘respectful and civil dialogue’ is a figment of your’s and others imagination. strom thurmond, trent lott, steve king, joseph mccarthy, george mcgovern, preston brooks, etc., all american politicians who never displayed civility in their dialogue, which has been tolerated for centuries because they were all white men.

        You’re disrespecful, mocking tone WRT Rashida Tlaib and others is seen exactly for what it is, misogyny and prejudice.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 7, 2019, 12:36 pm

        Marnie,
        The “everyone else does it why can’t I” logic works for some. My father and mother always told me that we should try to be the best we can and not sink to the level of others. I’m not happy with that language from any politician. I think we should expect more from everyone. But I admit I may just be Old.

      • Marnie
        Marnie on January 8, 2019, 12:49 am

        That says a lot about you and so many like you. So offended by language, but not at all by death and destruction, as long as it isn’t harming you. These women but especially Ms. Tlaib, will continue to be scrutinized like no man ever would, for language, clothing, dancing and whatever else lodges a bur up some racist misogynist’s nether regions. It will be very interesting to see how long Nancy can keep from distancing herself from these women because of schumer’s sense of duty towards adelson, aipac and zionism. They are old, old school. chuckie’s probably going through the contortions of a lifetime trying to appear progressive.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 8, 2019, 1:59 pm

        Marnie
        Can you point out the misogyny in my statements?

      • annie
        annie on January 8, 2019, 2:19 pm

        I’m not happy with that language from any politician.

        uh huh. claiming this after the fact doesn’t help your argument. can you point out when pundits, the msm, (or you) grabbed the smelling salts or went into fits of lecturing over a male politician’s perceived lack of civility? because generally they get a pass unless the content of what they are saying (and not the expression) are objectionable.

        people hold women to a higher standard, that’s where misogyny comes into play.

      • Marnie
        Marnie on January 8, 2019, 11:57 pm

        Jon66

        ‘Can you point out the misogyny in my statements?’

        The whole thread by the zionist crowd started with the clutch the pearls “I think I’m going to faint” moment by JackDoh regarding Rashida’s language. It’s been pointed out several times already that Rashida is being vilified for using language regularly used by the mushroom man and his cabinet. Why the longing for the days of so-called civility when a woman drops a bomb? Why are women set up to higher standards (for less money too)?

        “Foul-mouthed” and “vulgar” are the safe words being used in place of calling out this elected official a filthy arab, which should be happening on the white house’s television network in 5, 4, 3, 2………………

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 9, 2019, 6:13 pm

        Marnie,
        She was foul mouthed. So is the President. I don’t think that relevant. You make it a comparison. I think the standard should be no such language in public dialogue by anyone.
        I still don’t see the misogyny but perhaps it’s just a name you call people when you have no facts on your side.

      • Marnie
        Marnie on January 9, 2019, 11:20 pm

        @jon66
        ‘I still don’t see the misogyny but perhaps it’s just a name you call people when you have no facts on your side.’

        I’ve been as clear (and others more so) as I can be. You’re not getting it but more likely refusal to admit it is not of any interest to me. Your blindness to it doesn’t serve as proof and has been the reason it continues, blindness to it, not being adversely affected by it and mostly not giving a shit about it.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 10, 2019, 5:44 am

        “I’ve been as clear (and others more so) as I can be.“
        That’s what I thought.

  14. wondering jew
    wondering jew on January 4, 2019, 9:33 pm

    The 13th Congressional district from Michigan has elected a representative and she should be proud of her heritage and sit proudly in the Congress. But her Democratic colleagues are aware that she is not ready for prime time with her “we’ll impeach the mother fu..er” and with her wild talk she has shown that she is not useful to the Democratic party. And this will cast the same shadow on her support for the Palestinians: Loose cannons talk like this. They might talk like this in certain parts of Michigan, but Democrats interested in helping the National Democratic Party at this moment consider her poison.

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer on January 4, 2019, 11:37 pm

      @wondering jew

      lol give it a rest you die hard zionist supporter thereby complicit in the murder of innocent women and children.

      There is not one word she said that is worse than what trump has said. There is not one word she has said that even remotely comes close to the vile racist genocidal rhetoric of the GoI. She doesn’t even come close to the ugly spewings of hilary,

      You are only attacking her because of her support for Palestinians.

      • edwardm
        edwardm on January 5, 2019, 12:35 pm

        because of WHO she is. Which is why all the Zio-pukes have their knickers in a twist. How dare she, untervolken , wear the traditional garb of her mother and grandmother? The only images he wants to see of Palestinians are rock throwers, death and destruction and the occasional boy with donkey.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 5, 2019, 6:38 pm

        edwardm: “The only images he wants to see of Palestinians are rock throwers …”

        Israeli police: 23 officers hurt by stone-throwing settlers
        https://www.foxnews.com/world/israeli-police-23-officers-hurt-by-stone-throwing-settlers

        I’m sure that these settlers are going to put under prolonged adminstrative detention. Oh wait, they are not Gentiles. Gotta stay true to Apartheid.

      • edwardm
        edwardm on January 6, 2019, 8:06 pm

        “prolonged detention” I doubt it. I mean, with this kind of “justice” system –
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/22/israel

      • Marnie
        Marnie on January 7, 2019, 3:32 am

        So the jewish settler terrorists will not see their homes destroyed or be shot in the legs. They will kill officers one day for they have nothing to fear. They won’t be shot in the head and their family members, neighbors and friends will not lose their homes. Democracy inaction.

    • Mooser
      Mooser on January 5, 2019, 12:17 pm

      Shorter “WJ”: ‘Shut your mouth!’

      But we’re talkin’ about Rashida Tlaib!

      Trump owns Israel. You better defend him, “Yonah”.

    • edwardm
      edwardm on January 5, 2019, 12:40 pm

      Wrong. Rump got elected and every time he opens his mouth something brown and soft falls out of it. She’s more popular than ever. Everyone in Flint cheered – I guarantee it.

    • wondering jew
      wondering jew on January 5, 2019, 1:54 pm

      Those who were tepid in their critique of Donald Trump before November of 2016 cannot preach to me and wrap themselves in the anti Trump cloak.

      There is no priority higher to me than getting Donald Trump out of office. Second to that is electing a Democrat president in 2020. I think the two are the same realizable goal. I think impeachment is just raw meat for the crowds. There may be impeachment by the House but there will never ever 99.9%, a 1000 to 1, be conviction by the Senate and thus this is just a waste of time to satisfy some teenage excess energy.

      The Democratic party is undergoing changes. But currently Nancy Pelosi is in charge and Tlaib is just throwing raw meat to the crowds. There will be other elected Democrats attracted to the raw meat idea. But they will be in safe nonTrump friendly territory. and responsible Americans and humans are interested in defeating trump in 2020 and raw meat may not be the path to success in that endeavor. i would think that non raw meat, au contraire is the best way to win michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania, where the election will be decided and this raw meat approach gives solace to trump.

      • annie
        annie on January 5, 2019, 2:02 pm

        There is no priority higher to me than getting Donald Trump out of office.

        seriously? because i would rather resolve palestine/israel a million times over.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew on January 5, 2019, 3:22 pm

        Curing cancer would also rate up there. My priorities are listed by feasibility among other factors including immediacy. I have been following Israel Palestine for over 45 years. Have you reached your 20th anniversary of following it yet?

      • Mooser
        Mooser on January 5, 2019, 5:54 pm

        “seriously? because i would rather resolve palestine/israel…” “Annie”

        See any possibility of progress, let alone resolution while Trump is in office?

      • RoHa
        RoHa on January 5, 2019, 9:35 pm

        “There is no priority higher to me than getting Donald Trump out of office. Second to that is electing a Democrat president in 2020.”

        You really think Trump’s successor will be noticeably preferable in policy, not just in presentation?

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer on January 6, 2019, 12:11 am

        @RoHa

        I am pretty sure yonah/wj is investing in the premise that the next president will be equally favourable to Israel if not more so.

        No I’m not accusing you of dual loyalties yf. Perish the thought. I am indeed suggesting the well being of a foreign nation is part of your considerations though.

        I dont even care beyond the curiousity value.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus on January 6, 2019, 6:10 am

        Mooser again

        “See any possibility of progress, let alone resolution while Trump is in office?”
        Well, Trump hasn’t much left to do –it was all progressed and solved by O’Bama and Clinton and Bush.

  15. Susan A
    Susan A on January 5, 2019, 12:27 am

    Susan A @wonderingjew The Congresswoman is nowhere near as ‘poisonous’ as the m••••••••••r of which she speaks. Here’s someone who totally disagrees with you.
    https://twitter.com/michelleinbklyn/status/1081242803726888960

    • Jon66
      Jon66 on January 5, 2019, 9:08 am

      In that particular case, the use of “pussy” was ina private conversation. I don’t think the word was problematic. the problem was the idea that you can simply assault women if you like.
      But is the defense that Trump has no class and so if she has no class then that’s fine?

      • annie
        annie on January 5, 2019, 10:29 am

        the problem was the idea that you can simply assault women if you like.
        But is the defense that Trump has no class and so if she has no class then that’s fine?

        thanks for asking. the answer would be no. there’s no defense for ‘simply assaulting women’ and ‘he has no class’ is not a defense of it.

      • Jon66
        Jon66 on January 5, 2019, 11:06 am

        I wish we could have a president and Congress that spoke to each other and the public with respect. We should be able to disagree without the disparaging language. The president has set the tone, but the Dems are taking the bait. Some of the job of president is being presidential and on that score the potus is a failure. But mom, everyone is doing it- is not wise policy.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on January 5, 2019, 1:39 pm

        “But is the defense that Trump has no class and so if she has no class then that’s fine?”

        “Jon66” , before we sold Israel and Judaism to Trump, shouldn’t we have waited to see if the check clears?

      • Marnie
        Marnie on January 8, 2019, 5:35 am

        @jon66
        ‘But mom, everyone is doing it- is not wise policy.’

        I’m pretty sure that the only policy hasbara routinely regurgitates wrt occupation and all the horror that goes with it is that everyone has done it. Sounds like the same thing. But I forget, you’re concerned about words and and class.

  16. Jackdaw
    Jackdaw on January 5, 2019, 1:42 am

    Foul-mouthed Rashida, falls on her face at the starting gate.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/welcome-jungle-dems-early-political-lesson-205822894–politics.html

    Tells you a lot.

    • annie
      annie on January 5, 2019, 5:51 am

      jack, with 5.7k “likes” i thought you’d appreciate this:

      • Jackdaw
        Jackdaw on January 5, 2019, 6:26 am

        Leftist radicals and lunatic fringe aside, most Americans want their elected representatives to uphold higher standards of discourse.

        Leftist radicals and lunatic fringe aside, most Americans, myself included, only want an impeachment that ‘follows the facts’ of the Mueller Investigation.

        Leftist radicals and lunatic fringe aside, most Americans do not want a political impeachment.

        We know where you stand.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on January 5, 2019, 1:21 pm

        “most Americans, myself included” “Jackdaw”

        Well, well, look who caught a flight to the good ol’ USA (“where hamburgers sizzle on an open grill night and day” per C. Berry) to defend his owner, Trump!

    • Marnie
      Marnie on January 8, 2019, 5:40 am

      @ Jackdoh

      I guess it told you something that 6 million other people disagree with. Oh well, I’m sure your POV will catch on, keep yammering.

  17. Jackdaw
    Jackdaw on January 5, 2019, 2:45 am

    She’s a political embarrassment, save for the tone deaf Mondoweiss cult of adoration.

    • annie
      annie on January 5, 2019, 6:43 am

    • Talkback
      Talkback on January 5, 2019, 7:36 am

      Jackdaw: “She’s a political embarrassment.”

      Yes, yes. She will never get as many standing ovations in the congress like the political embarrassment who became prime mofo of your beloved Apartheid Junta and said that 911 was good for Israel.

      • Citizen
        Citizen on January 6, 2019, 1:38 pm

        I agree with you, Talkback. My caveat is shouting vulgar language in public does not help her cause; it gives easy raw meat to her opponents. She could have shouted the same message without the vulgarity. Fox News talking heads are using it against her to their regular audience.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus on January 6, 2019, 3:35 pm

        Citizen,

        “Vulgar language” does not change the fact that this person is supporting one Zionist faction against another.

        Had she first attacked, indicted or anyway opposed her own party for its faultless collaboration and complicity with Zionism before she attacked a rival figurehead, she might have been somewhat credible.

        By attacking Trump before Zionism she has lost any credibility she might have had.

      • Marnie
        Marnie on January 8, 2019, 5:46 am

        “Fox News talking heads are using it against her to their regular audience.”

        Oh that’s just the warm-up before they go full on regarding her ethnicity.

        Hypocrites! They choke, spit, sputter and faint over a word, but the atrocities and war crimes of the IOF – not a peep.

  18. Talkback
    Talkback on January 5, 2019, 7:28 am

    “It’s About Time Democrats Said Something Without Worrying About What the Maniac President* Might Say. Rashida Tlaib and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez say what they mean. Nancy Pelosi can handle that.”
    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25750472/rashida-tlaib-impeach-motherfucker-trump-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-70-tax/

    “Lots Of Us Think Trump Is A Motherf**ker Who Should Be Impeached. Rashida Tlaib Just Said It Out Loud”
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-rashida-tlaib-trump-impeachment_us_5c2fc566e4b0d75a9830a875

    “‘We Might as Well Impeach the Motherf**ker’: Unidentified GOP Congressman Unloads to Right Wing Pundit”
    https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2018/04/we-might-as-well-impeach-the-motherfker-unidentified-gop-congressman-unloads-to-right-wing-pundit/

    https://www.impeachthemotherfuckeralready.com/

  19. Boris
    Boris on January 5, 2019, 8:43 am

    Abba Eban’s statement “Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity” applies to Tlaib to a t. She couldn’t do better by writing “Palestinian” on her forehead while shouting about a certain motherf*cker.

    Thanks, Rep. Tlaib, keep up good work!

    • Talkback
      Talkback on January 5, 2019, 5:54 pm

      It’s understandable that you react with a racist quote from a famous liar and your own racist addition. Let’s hope that nobody is as racist as you and thinks that you couldn’t do better by writing “Jewish” on your forehead.

    • Marnie
      Marnie on January 8, 2019, 8:14 am

      She will begin the good work because she’s not afraid of the lobby or douchebags like rubio and company (yours included) and her commitment to the people of Flint is a bit higher on her to-do list.

  20. Citizen
    Citizen on January 5, 2019, 10:05 am

    Those thobes are beautiful. They lift my heart.

  21. Ossinev
    Ossinev on January 5, 2019, 2:39 pm

    @Gamal
    “it would appear Churchill was unaware of this British custom, he was half American”

    To be fair to him it was also the way he held his perpetual smoking cigar ? Pretty awkward to hold and smoke the other way round ?

    • gamal
      gamal on January 5, 2019, 3:08 pm

      ” Pretty awkward to hold and smoke the other way round ?”

      Unless he was giving Stalin a blowback.

    • John O
      John O on January 5, 2019, 3:57 pm

      I read years ago that Churchill was unaware that the two-fingered salute was indeed an obscene gesture (presumably not used in the aristocratic circles in which he moved) and had to be told to hold his hand the other way round.

      • gamal
        gamal on January 5, 2019, 4:41 pm

        ” had to be told to hold his hand the other way round”

        In the south London I landed in the white people I got to know hated, and I mean visceral hatred, Churchill, they also loathed Atlee but loved Tony Benn (young, vigorous but was demonized as hysterical Eton boy..etc), but they were uncouth…he has since become an Avatar of Whiteness, the old lush.

        “the other way round” A Gentleman is never rude…unintentionally.

      • Talkback
        Talkback on January 5, 2019, 7:05 pm

        “Some argue that his aristocratic background meant that he was unaware of the primary meaning of the palm-inward version in Britain and was innocently performing it like many other Europeans.

        The more likely explanation is that Churchill was all too aware of the meaning of this gesture. John Colville, Churchill’s private secretary, noted in his diaries that “The PM *will* give the V-sign with two fingers in spite of representations repeatedly made to him that this gesture has quite another significance”.
        https://stronglang.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/up-yours-the-gesture-that-divides-america-and-the-uk/

      • John O
        John O on January 6, 2019, 2:21 pm

        @Talkback

        Thanks. Churchill would not have turned down an opportunity to be mischievous.

  22. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan on January 6, 2019, 9:28 am

    The US government is shut down. Over 800,000 Federal workers have been unpaid for 2 weeks. Most live paycheck to paycheck like 80% of Americans.

    What does the Senate do? Push through a bipartisan bill defending Israel from BDS

    Priorities pitiful

    U.S. Senate’s first bill, in midst of shutdown, is a bipartisan defense of the Israeli government from boycotts
    https://theintercept.com/2019/01/05/u-s-senates-first-bill-in-midst-of-shutdown-is-a-bipartisan-defense-of-the-israeli-government-from-boycotts/

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan on January 6, 2019, 3:40 pm

      Great to see Americans asking questions

      Full_on_Cynic

      @Full_On_Cynic
      ·
      15h
      Why does our govt pass anti-American laws to protect the apartheid Zionist govt of Israel and criminalize free speech by Americans? Is it the money they are given or something else? Serious question

  23. Talkback
    Talkback on January 6, 2019, 11:48 am

    “Campbell, Canada’s first female prime minister, tweeted just before 10 a.m. on Saturday: “He really IS a mother——!””
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/former-pm-kim-campbell-calls-trump-expletive-on-twitter-1.4241998

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