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Advice to Kushner and Greenblatt: Saudis won’t make deal with Israel till it withdraws from Palestinian territories

The former Saudi diplomat Prince Turki bin Faisal Al Saud gave an interview last month to Israeli Channel 13 and warned the Trump administration not to come up with a peace plan that doesn’t include withdrawal by Israel from occupied Palestinian territories. And Netanyahu is deceiving Israelis to think that they can make peace with the Gulf states and Saudi Arabia without doing so.

Asked if he had advice for Jared Kushner and Jason Greenblatt on rolling out Trump’s peace plan for the Middle East, Prince Turki said:

The Arab Peace initiative– take it on, make it yours.

He described the initiative of 2002 from the late King Abdullah as a great opportunity for Israel, never seized upon.

Basically it’s a quid pro quo. Israel withdraws from occupied Arab territories in return for Arab recognition of Israel, end of hostilities and normal relations. From day one, there has not been an Israeli response. With Israeli money and Saudi brains we can go far. Yes– if there is peace. But unfortunately Israel chooses to ignore all the efforts of Saudi Arabia to make peace. And expects Saudi Arabia to put its hand in its hand and go forward on technology, on water desalination on issues like that. It’s not going to happen.

The prince said he spoke for himself, but told Channel 13’s Barak Ravid that he had checked in with the government before traveling to London and added: “We have to get our point across directly to the Israeli people. Your channel I understand is one of the foremost media outlets that are watched and respected by Israeli public opinion.”

Ravid asked the prince if he thought Benjamin Netanyahu was deceiving the Israeli people when he says that Israel has warming relations with Gulf States and Saudi Arabia.

“Absolutely,” he responded.

Israeli public opinion should not be deceived into believing that the Palestinian issue is a dead issue. From the Israeli point of view, Mr Netanyahu would like us to have a relationship and then we can fix the Palestinian issue. From the Saudi point of view it’s the other way around.

He went on that Saudis “have a very negative view of Mr. Netanyahu because of what is happening on the ground and the hubristic attitude that he has…”

We don’t need Mr. Netanyahu to tell us the dangers that Iran poses. We see it on the ground. We see their activities in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Bahrain, even Saudi Arabia. Why should we wait for Netanyahu to highlight these things.

Saudi Arabia has conducted what many call a genocide in Yemen over the last four years, with the help of the United States.

Asked if we will witness a meeting between Saudi and Israeli leaders, again Prince Turki highlighted the Palestinian issue.

In my lifetime, and there is very little of it left to come, I don’t think I’m going to see that, not before the Palestinian issue is resolved. I am looking for an Israeli peace initiative. I haven’t seen one. What is it that Israel thinks will make peace?

I [would like to] visit what I consider to be not only a holy place, but a place of my history as an Arab and as a Muslim… Jerusalem is something I want to see before I die, and unfortunately I’m not too optimistic that i’m going to see that.

Turki, the former intelligence chief of the country, has lately stonewalled on the killing of Jamal Khashoggi.

The interview above was published February 14, but has gotten recent pickup on twitter.

 

 

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“Israel withdraws from occupied Arab territories in return for Arab recognition of Israel, end of hostilities and normal relations. From day one, there has not been an Israeli response. “

The problem with that proposal from the Israeli point of view is twofold.

First, Israel would have to give up its real goal of taking all the land of Palestine. Related, it would be giving up the goal of taking the “Greater Israel” land eastward to the Euphrates river, which includes Baghdad and half of Iraq. So having the US invade Iraq will have been a wasted effort.

Second, and more important, the war profiteers who financed the Zionist invasion of Palestine, with its ensuing religious war, would have to cut short their profitable venture. e.g. “War Profiteer Story”.

When Israel engages in “discussion” it is merely theater, completely in bad faith, and warfare by treacherous means.

Kushner, the naive inexperienced “peacemaker” is never going to succeed in his efforts to end this conflict. He is under the illusion that the Palestinians, who have had their aid taken away by the evil dictator Don, and are suffering without human rights and basic needs, with Jerusalem taken off the table, will gratefully accept the crumbs thrown at them, by Israel and Kushner.
Aren’t starving people supposed to give in to the one sided peace offering?
The question is will Bin Salman, who has got valuable advice by Kushner on how to deal with the backlash after brutally murdering a journalist, finally throw the Palestinians under the bus, and go along with Kushner’s so called peace offer.

An excellent report, thanks! A very interesting perspective, particularly at this moment.

Whatever else Saudi leadership is up to, it appears at least some “hear” the people on this issue, or share their common-sense views. Overall the views expressed here support Richard Falk’s observations: genuine power shouldn’t be confused with the publicity and machinations of a few Netanyahu-type politicians, and in the long run will be more decisive.

Faisal bin Turki is first and foremost a politician and knows neither he nor anyone else in the Saudi regime can openly claim to have made “peace” with the Israeli regime, even when ‘security’ cooperation and regional power struggles have already made Israel, the US, and Saudi Arabia close allies. Keeping up appearances as the region’s dominant Arab state, is what matters.

Turki’s concern, like that of other leaders in the region, is not to *appear* to have acquiesced to Israeli demands. If there is a country anywhere that makes its policies with little concern for public opinion it is Saudi Arabia.

Very interesting, and I think rather important.