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At the end of nearly 1,000 yards of newly-grown spring grassy turf, a renewed barbed-wire border fence rises three meters up, in anticipation of a million person march next week between Gaza protesters and their well-known antagonist snipers.

A week before the first anniversary of the great March of Return, organizers have pledged larger than usual demonstrations. However, their preparations appeared powerless in yesterday’s renewed protests at Malaka, eastern Gaza City, when hails of Israeli live ammunition and gas canisters killed two Palestinian men and wounded 26 others taking part in weekly demonstrations along the fortified Israel-Gaza border.

Barbed wire has been added to the Gaza fence in anticipation of the one year anniversary of the Great March of Return

Barbed wire has been added to the Gaza fence in anticipation of the one year anniversary of the Great March of Return, March 22, 2019. (Photo: Mohammed Asad)

Jihad Harara, 24, was shot in the head east of Gaza City, while Nidal Shatat, 29, was hit in the chest near the Al-Bureij refugee camp in central Gaza. They are the latest of 257 people killed since Palestinians launched the weekly border protests on March 30 last year, demanding the right to return to land from which their ancestors were forced to flee during Israel’s founding in 1948.

Shaza Abu Serriah, 16, and Amany al-Qayed, 20, who just join the rally said they seek to affix a Palestine flag on the fence.

Shaza Abu Serriah (right) and Amany al-Qayed

Shaza Abu Serriah (right) and Amany al-Qayed (Photo: Ahmad Al-Kabariti)

The Israeli army did not comment on the deaths but said “approximately 9,500 rioters and demonstrators” gathered in various locations yesterday, “hurling explosive devices, hard objects and rocks” at troops.

“Scared of what?” Amany, a sophomore of social studies, wondered. “We come today to warm up our feelings ahead of the next week. Both women said they were encouraged by their parents to approach the fence. “Once a girl does so, more men will take heart to take down that–not supposed to be–fence,” Shaza told Mondoweiss.

As they spoke, paramedics were seen rushing to carry away those injured a few yards away from the fence, and an angry young amputee protester chanted loudly: “Come on to the Heavens! Come on to your grandfathers’ lands.”

Injured person getting carried away from Gaza fence

Injured person getting carried away from Gaza fence, March 22, 2019. (Photo: Mohammed Asad)

It has become a normal scene to see amputees walking with a crutch or traveling by wheelchair along Gaza streets, beaches or during the ongoing demonstrations.

For more than months, Israeli snipers have targeted one part of the body more than any other – the legs.

Of the 15,000 protesters treated at hospitals and field clinics in Gaza so far, at least 6,000 have been struck in the lower limbs, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry last December.

Injured youth is treated at a demonstration at the Gaza fence, March 22, 2019.

Injured youth is treated at a demonstration at the Gaza fence, March 22, 2019. (Photo: Mohammed Asad)

Also on Friday, the United Nations Human Rights Council condemned Israel’s “apparent intentional use of unlawful lethal and other excessive force” against civilian protesters in Gaza, and called for perpetrators of violations to face justice.

In a surprise visit, Ismail Haniya, chief of the Islamist group Hamas which runs the enclave, urged Palestinians to attend mass rallies on Saturday to mark one year since protests began.

“We will not retreat and whoever thinks that we may retreat a single step backward before achieving our goals is wrong,” Haniyeh said.

The Israeli press is echoing the sense of urgency in Gaza. Alex Fishman of the Israeli paper Yediot Ahronot pressed Israelis to acknowledge Palestinian conditions.

The West Bank is at a boiling point, the Palestinian economy is weak and the motivation for terror attacks high, and now Hamas is planning its biggest demonstration ever to mark the anniversary of the ‘March of Return’; Israel fears events may spin out of control with dozens of casualties and a possible military confrontation.

The only way to stave off this frightening scenario is to implement the partial understandings reached between Egypt, Israel and Hamas. Most of the subject matter was found to be acceptable by both sides. Israel agreed to allow Hamas to expand the Gaza fishing zone to 12 nautical miles from the Gaza coast and allow the UN to fund the employment of some 90,000 Gazans currently without work. Israel also agreed to provide Gaza with additional electricity capacity.

On the ground in Gaza, Musa Abu al-Hatal, a 31-year-old unemployed math graduate, was watching the Friday crowds and marvelling at the “stance of maze,” as he characterized the life of Gaza.

“Being in Gaza means that your mind brainstorms itself constantly over the political situation. They (Israelis) threaten, and we (Palestinians) respond with bluster. It seems a non-ending boxing round and no one from outside wants to be a referee.”

Shooting a sling shot at the Gaza fence, March 22, 2019. (Photo: Mohammed Asad)

Shooting a sling shot at the Gaza fence, March 22, 2019. (Photo: Mohammed Asad)

Musa said, “I guess next week, thousands of stretchers will be full of injuries and dead, and the same number of crutches will be used by new victims.”

Injured youth is treated at a demonstration at the Gaza fence

Injured youth is treated at a demonstration at the Gaza fence, March 22, 2019. (Photo: Mohammed Asad)

Demonstration at the Gaza fence, March 22, 2019. (Photo: Mohammed Asad)

Demonstration at the Gaza fence, March 22, 2019. (Photo: Mohammed Asad)

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  1. Mayhem
    Mayhem
    March 23, 2019, 5:42 pm

    “Joe Truzman, an expert on “Palestinian” terrorist groups active on the Gaza border with Israel, has disproved major points in the recently released U.N. Human Rights Council report—namely, that many of the report’s “victims” shot by soldiers of the Israeli Defense Force were actually members of terrorist groups, including Hamas.
    The British Foreign Secretary’s has affirmed that the United Kingdom would vote against all Item 7 resolutions at the U.N. Human Rights Council, saying, “The U.N. Human Rights Council has proven time and again their implacable opposition to Israel, and this shapes so much of their work, including institutionalizing their day against Israel in the standing agenda Item 7—a form of victimization they impose on no other country.”
    Refer Experts Reveal Lies: UN Knew of Terrorist Activity on Gaza Border, but Did Not Report It

    • annie
      annie
      March 23, 2019, 5:51 pm

      this joe, with a degree in Computer Information Systems, whose been a “journalist” for 4 months? and by his own admission started looking into gaza after 2014 summer slaughter. a self declared terrorism expert?

      https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-truzman-1b3ab3102

      I am recent college graduate with a degree in Computer Information Systems. My speciality is network administration but I have experience with computer repair and installation among many other skills.

      has he ever even been there, to gaza? does he speak arabic?

      Truzman has expanded his sources (about which he remains tightlipped) and has successfully infiltrated online groups in which terrorists discuss their terrorist activity.

      might that source be the israel’s military spokesperson? and who deems who as a “terrorist”? this so called publication he works for as a “journalist” is his own newsletter. so who pays him? what information has he dug up that the israel gov has not already advertised? by these standards anyone could claim they were an expert.

      • Mayhem
        Mayhem
        March 23, 2019, 8:06 pm

        @annie, have you been to Gaza. Do you speak Arabic?
        You seem to have some concern about expertise with this issue. Perhaps then you should read Gaslighting Gaza: Initial analysis of UN Commission of Inquiry (COI) on Gaza violence in which it reports that none of the COI members has any expertise in international humanitarian law or military operations.

      • annie
        annie
        March 23, 2019, 9:39 pm

        yes i have been to gaza no i don’t speak arabic, but i’m not passing myself off as a expert either.

        https://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/CoIOPT/Pages/Members.aspx#canton

        Santiago Canton (Argentina)
        Mr. Canton is currently the Secretary of Human Rights for the province of Buenos Aires, Argentina. He was formerly Director of RFK Partners for Human Rights at the Robert F. Kennedy Center for Justice and Human Rights. Before joining the RFK Center, Mr. Canton was the Executive Secretary of the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights for eleven years after serving as the first Special Rapporteur for Freedom of Expression in the Inter American System. From 1994 to 1998 Mr. Canton was Director for Latin America and the Caribbean for the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs (NDI). He has also served as a political assistant to former United States President Jimmy Carter in democratic development programs in countries in Latin America. Mr. Canton holds a law degree from the University of Buenos Aires and a Master degree in International Law from the Washington College of Law of American University.

        Sara Hossain (Bangladesh)
        Ms. Hossain is a lawyer who practices at the Supreme Court of Bangladesh. In 2016, she was appointed by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights as one of the two experts on accountability to support the work of the Special Rapporteur on the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. She was a recipient of the 2016 International Women of Courage Award awarded by the US Secretary of State. She also served as a Member of the Board of Trustees of the UN Voluntary Fund for Victims of Torture in 2017-18. She had earlier served as a Commissioner of the ICJ and is on the Advisory Committee of the Women’s Initiative for Gender Justice.

        Kaari Betty Murungi (Kenya)
        Ms. Murungi is a lawyer who has practiced law at national, regional and international levels, and has experience in the management of non-governmental and non-profit organisations. She served on the board of the Kenya Human Rights Commission and the Women’s Initiatives for Gender Justice, among others. She has background in international human rights in the context of violent conflict with experience in international criminal justice and accountability mechanisms. She has worked in Sierra Leone, Rwanda, Northern Uganda and South Sudan and served for a short period as Vice Chairperson and Commissioner to the Kenya Truth, Justice and Reconciliation Commission, and as the Africa representative on the Board of Directors of the Trust Fund for Victims at the International Criminal Court (2010- 2013).

        cumulatively, that’s years of experience. vs wrting a newsletter for a few months.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 24, 2019, 6:31 am

        @an

        Don’t take this Joe guys word. Take the Hamas council who after initial death figures are in and reported to the UN continue after to relist the vast majority of the deaths as ‘soldiers who died as martyrs fighting for the Hamas. Then, they go on to list these soldiers formerly called civilians. Then posters are printed and posted up and funerals are publicly attended for the great hams warrior now martyr for the cause.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        March 24, 2019, 5:35 pm

        DaBakr: “Don’t take this Joe guys word. Take the Hamas council who after initial death figures are in and reported to the UN continue after to relist the vast majority of the deaths as ‘soldiers who died as martyrs fighting for the Hamas. Then, they go on to list these soldiers formerly called civilians. Then posters are printed and posted up and funerals are publicly attended for the great hams warrior now martyr for the cause.”

        So according to your reasoning Jews affiliated with the IDF or Israel’s goverment or soldiers off duty are legitimate targets even when they are not even armed and can be killed at any time, even if they pose not leathal threat, but especially when they attempt to cross Israel’s borders into occupied Palestine. And they are even more legitimate targets when their deaths are mourned and someone claims that they were a hero/patriot.

        Good to know, DaBakr.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        March 24, 2019, 8:48 pm

        @TalkBack

        I am sure Mayhem knows that in interviews with Hamas officials while acknowledging membership of some of the victims they stressed that they were there unarmed and in their own personal capacity.

        Is there anyone who doesn’t believe that if there was video evidence of the violent nature of those killed that it would be shown? Where is it? Is there anyone who doubts such evidence exists? Israel like most first world states is highly automated. They make extensive use of video for security purposes.

        And final and sole question….. Has anyone seen any/many video(s) or stills which justify any/many one shootings. Out of the thousands of people shot. One video justifying one shooting.

        I did see one video out of the many thousands shot which seems to show that the person may have been armed while shot. I saw zero evidence it was a video from the Great March of Return protests though.

      • Jtruzmah
        Jtruzmah
        April 3, 2019, 5:53 pm

        I haven’t updated LinkedIn for a while, thanks for bringing this up. It didn’t look good if people were calling me an expert and LinkedIn didn’t reflect my background properly.

        My niche is militants in Gaza. A simple search on Twitter will reveal my work. I’m pretty good at what I do. I’ve uncovered militants by the dozens at the Gaza border and beyond.

        Regarding the UNHRC COI Report, I went after names they mentioned as victims of IDF gunfire which some turns out to be militants. Anyway, criticism is always good. It keeps me in line and gives me an idea what I need to work on.

        Joe

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        April 3, 2019, 8:28 pm

        @jtruzman

        I’m impressed without reading anything about you.

        The fact remains that being a member of Hamas is not a legitimate justification for their murder if they were not directly involved as a combantant.

        Israel objects, and to some degree rightly so, when the members of their terrorist gangs get killed while off duty.

      • annie
        annie
        April 4, 2019, 1:40 am

        My niche is militants in Gaza

        really. because the article we were directed to references “Terrorist Activity on Gaza Border” and the only terrorism mentioned comes from one side. the weaker side. there’s simply no mention of state sponsored terrorism.

        Video evidence shows that DFLP terrorists surrounded his funeral.
        Jihad Abu Jamous: The Commission of Inquiry stated in its report that Jamous was shot in the head approximately 300 meters from the security fence, but did not mention that he was a terrorist in the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades. Jamous was also a field commander of the al-Amoudi Brigade, a branch of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.

        whereas those snipers shooting into crowds and killing and maiming innocents, i just don’t see any attention to them. were there any militants you “discovered” not already revealed by either hamas or the iof spokesperson? lots of observation and repetition of army spokespersons does not an expert make. lots of us have a fascination with activity on the boundary (it’s not a border btw) between gaza and israel. what kind of research, if any, have you done on israeli slaughter of civilians, or children. any? or do you chalk it all up to collateral damage?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        April 5, 2019, 12:33 pm

        “I’m impressed without reading anything about you.”

        Yes, even without Googling, the impression is pretty clear.

      • eljay
        eljay
        April 5, 2019, 3:15 pm

        || Jtruzmah: … I’m pretty good at what I do. I’ve uncovered militants by the dozens at the Gaza border and beyond. … ||

        If you’re any good at all you’ll easily uncover Jewish supremacists (Zionists) by the hundreds of thousands – and maybe even by the millions:
        – within Israel’s (Partition) borders;
        – in and around Israel’s colonies outside of its (Partition) borders; and
        – throughout the entire world.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      March 24, 2019, 4:38 am

      Mayhem: “Joe Truzman, an expert on “Palestinian” terrorist groups active on the Gaza border with Israel …”

      Who says he is an “expert” besides jewishpress.com? And what makes him an “expert”?

      Mayhem: “has disproved major points in the recently released U.N. Human Rights Council report”

      Which major points and how did he disprove them?

      Mayhem: “… that many of the report’s “victims …”

      How many?

      Mayhem: “shot by soldiers of the Israeli Defense Force …”

      Were these Palestinian armed? And why where they killed?

      Mayhem: “… were actually members of terrorist groups, including Hamas.”

      Why is this a “major point” of the report? And why is there not other “major point” if he disproved “major points” (plural).

      Mayhem: “@annie, have you been to Gaza.”

      Has Joe Truzman, Portland, Oregon?

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      March 25, 2019, 2:09 am

      @og

      it wasn’t just “some of the victims”. it was hundreds. all active Hamas militants and Hamas was eager to claim them as the brave fighters of Hamas, but after it could inflict maximum PR damage to Israel. and if you were honest about the Hamas leadership you would know they are proud of any tactic they can use to inflict harm on the zionist entity and I can’t say I blame them as they understand they are at a severe military disadvantage and fight with what they can. Hamas not nearly as self-righteous as American anti-zionist blogs.

      however, they truly do appreciate the many anti-israel activists that provide them with cover by believing, or pretending to believe that these protests are not managed by Hamas and only Hamas with a partly sympathetic civilian population but by no means a majority. most Gaza’s want peace and quiet and an end to the blockade before they desire the destruction of zionism. others, not so much.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        March 25, 2019, 4:15 pm

        DaBakr: “it wasn’t just “some of the victims”. it was hundreds.”

        “hundreds”? Says who?

        DaBakr: “all active Hamas militants and Hamas was eager to claim them as the brave fighters of Hamas, …”

        “brave fighters”? Says who?

        But what’s actually relevant:
        Please prove that they were armed and that the IDF terorrists could only avert life threatening situations by killing them.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        April 5, 2019, 12:35 pm

        “all active Hamas militants and Hamas was eager to claim them as the brave fighters of Hamas”

        And only a very few of those victims even bothered to come back from the dead and deny it, or clarify their relationship with Hamas. What does that tell you?

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      March 25, 2019, 9:56 am

      @Mayhem, et al

      Meanwhile:
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/14/israel-gaza-violence-and-the-struggle-for-middle-east-peace

      The Guardian, March 14/19
      Israel-Gaza violence and the struggle for Middle East peace

      Letter to the editor:
      “We, Israelis committed to peace, strongly welcome the report of the UN inquiry into the horrifying killing of Palestinian demonstrators in Gaza (UN says Israel may be guilty of war crimes over Gaza, 1 March). The UN report confirms that almost none of the 189 Palestinians killed and over 9,000 injured by our forces in the weekly demonstrations since last March posed any direct threat to Israel or to its citizens. Many were shot while peacefully protesting hundreds of metres away from the Gaza fence.

      “The 2 million inhabitants of Gaza are caged in an open-air prison, forcibly isolated from the rest of Palestinian society. These people have every right and reason to protest, yet are shot at with live ammunition when they do so.

      “The UN Human Rights Council, which mandated the inquiry, is an imperfect body, but the UN commission of inquiry was independent. Its report is a truthful and objective indictment of Israel’s brutal crackdown, while also addressing Palestinian violations.

      “As the first anniversary of the start of the protests on 30 March draws closer, the world must put a stop to this ongoing killing. Next week, countries of the world will have to take a position on the UN report at the Human Rights Council in Geneva. We urge all countries, including the UK, to support it unambiguously.”

      Prof Michael Ben-Yair Former attorney general of Israel and former acting supreme court judge
      Avraham Burg Former Speaker of Knesset and head of the Jewish Agency
      Dr Ilana Hammerman Israeli writer and translator
      Prof David Harel Vice-president of the Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities, Israel Prize recipient (2004), EMET Prize recipient (2010)
      Alex Levac Israel Prize recipient (2005)
      Prof Yehuda Judd Ne’eman Israel Prize recipient (2009)
      Prof David Shulman Israel Prize recipient (2016) and EMET Prize recipient (2010)
      Prof Zeev Sternhell Israel Prize recipient (2008)

  2. bcg
    bcg
    March 23, 2019, 6:27 pm

    @Mayhem: What does being a “member” of Hamas mean? Hamas not only fires rockets into Israel, it organizes welfare activities for the residents of Gaza. As far as I’m aware, you can be a medic or a teacher or an accountant and be a member of Hamas – being a member doesn’t mean you are automatically carrying a Kalashnikov.

    Furthermore, merely being a member of Hamas doesn’t automatically qualify you for being shot by Israeli snipers. And for that matter, exactly how are the Israeli snipers determining – presumably through their rifle scopes – just exactly who is a member?

    Further furthermore, there were clearly many people at the demonstrations who are NOT members of Hamas. The whole Hamas thing is getting absurd.

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      March 23, 2019, 9:46 pm

      Good point. How exactly can the “brilliant” IDF look through their sniper scopes and pick out the “Khamas” members, among that crowd of so many moving people? That excuse is totally weak and does not fly. Who keeps buying this shit? That would be our presidents, and congress, who keeps the aid and weapons flowing into one of the most disliked, and ruthless nations in the world.

      I fear for the lives of these protesters, they are desperate, and the killers only take the opportunity to shoot fish in that barrel, they want to kill as many as possible, even children. Pure evil.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        March 23, 2019, 10:41 pm

        “How exactly can the “brilliant” IDF look through their sniper scopes and pick out the “Khamas” members, among that crowd of so many moving people? ”

        Khamas members are easy to spot. They are always swarthy, unshaven, wild-eyed fanatics who are constantly shouting anti-Jewish slogans. They wear pointy hats, too.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      March 24, 2019, 4:47 am

      The only relevant legal question is if any Palestinian posed a lethal threat to IDF soldiers which could only by averted by killing them. Nothing else matters. They are only pseudo justifcations for murder.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      March 25, 2019, 2:17 am

      lol. “welfare activities” ? you mean since they were ‘democratically’ elected and have held an iron grip on power since they actually have to run the strip and provide something for the people after they steal billions for the ‘leadership’ and the tunnels and rockets? welfare activities my ass. google how much money meshaal is worth.

  3. Argonne18
    Argonne18
    March 24, 2019, 11:36 am

    The world needs to identify the shooters and the chain of command, and hunt these war criminals down into their 90s as Israel did with book keepers at Auschwitz. I want to see a Palestinian Simon Wiesenthal emerge to hound these murderous war criminals to the end of the earth. Kidnap them from Israel to face tribunals in The Hague! Let’s see hundreds of movies highlighting this genocide. Let’s see these murderers homes bulldozed and confiscated.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      March 25, 2019, 2:23 am

      @a

      woah. strong words. too bad its just a fantasy that won’t help. you seem ignorant to the concept that were european jews collectively able to stop the their industrial scale murder they would have surrendered to any terms other then massive death by gas, starvation and disease, etc. in fact they did surrender-in most every european nation where they weren’t considered citizens. this is not a comparable situation in any but a mind deranged with anger. too bad for that.

    • eljay
      eljay
      March 25, 2019, 8:12 am

      || Argonne18: The world needs to identify the shooters and the chain of command, and hunt these war criminals down into their 90s as Israel did with book keepers at Auschwitz. I want to see a Palestinian Simon Wiesenthal emerge to hound these murderous war criminals to the end of the earth. Kidnap them from Israel to face tribunals in The Hague! Let’s see hundreds of movies highlighting this genocide. Let’s see these murderers homes bulldozed and confiscated. ||

      I’d like to see all Zionist (and non-Zionist) (war) criminals arrested, given a fair trial and, if found guilty, held accountable for their (war) crimes.

      Kidnapping suspects and bulldozing homes is hateful and immoral retribution and there’s no need for civilized people to act like Zionists.

  4. brent
    brent
    March 24, 2019, 12:45 pm

    “Being in Gaza means that your mind brainstorms itself constantly over the political situation. They (Israelis) threaten, and we (Palestinians) respond with bluster. It seems a non-ending boxing round and no one from outside wants to be a referee.”

    Perhaps brainstorming with others could lead to tactics that may have a chance of putting Netanyahu on the defensive. Clearly, he incites confrontation as a way of control, keeping the American political establishment behind him.

    6000 shot in the legs and with little prospect of getting more electricity and Haniyeh says bluster on at full speed. It’s becoming apparent that throwing things undermines the chance of achieving political goals. I fear bluster and thinking with the heart will be ineffective at contending with thinking with the mind.

    When someone comes up with a plan to direct all the energy and gusto in a political savvy direction we could see an evolution.

  5. Mooser
    Mooser
    March 24, 2019, 3:43 pm

    ” a plan to direct all the energy and gusto in a political savvy direction”

    We can’t say what that “political savvy direction” might be, but it must be there, and the Palestinians must have overlooked this opportunity for an opportunity.

  6. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    March 24, 2019, 5:37 pm

    @Talkback
    “Who says he is an “expert” besides jewishpress.com? And what makes him an “expert”?”

    Easy peasy. Hitler was a self described and self appointed expert on Jews and Judaism. He did extensive ” research ” and published his findings in Mein Kampf.

    Joe has established his “expertise” without much of a struggle.

    It`s just like declaring yourself being an “expert” on golf but at the same time being a totally useless crap player.

  7. RoHa
    RoHa
    March 24, 2019, 10:43 pm

    Hooray! The caption writer got it right in the third picture from the bottom. That is a slingshot. (Also known as a “catapult” and “dinger”.)

    No slingshots in the bottom picture. Those are slings.

  8. Jejasalo
    Jejasalo
    March 25, 2019, 2:09 pm

    It strikes me as ludicrous that the Israeli Army should have to be called upon to prepare for another assault on Gaza. What is it they’re preparing for? Killing and maiming non-violent protesters? Destroying public and private businesses? Wrecking what’s left of the infrastructure within Gaza? Bombing homes with “precision weapons” that end up killing families of 12 because of a “suspected” Hamas operative? Getting rid of all Hamas “command and control” bases? –a euphemism for destroying anything they don’t like.

    It seems to me Israel has all the practice it will ever need for “controlling” the first anniversary of the Great March of Return.

  9. Jackdaw
    Jackdaw
    March 26, 2019, 3:08 pm

    Israel is supposed to stop settlements on Arab land beyond the ‘Green Line’, yet Palestinians are encouraged not to respect Israel’s Gaza border and to try to invade Israel.

    Curious dichotomy.

    • eljay
      eljay
      March 26, 2019, 6:03 pm

      || Jackdaw: Israel is supposed to stop settlements on Arab land beyond the ‘Green Line’, yet Palestinians are encouraged not to respect Israel’s Gaza border and to try to invade Israel.

      Curious dichotomy. ||

      You’re right again, Jackdaw!

      All Israelis – including refugees from Israel – must return to within “Green Line” Israel.

      All not-Israelis – including refugees from not-Israel – must return to within “Green Line” not-Israel.

      Both sides must respect “Green Line” borders.

      I support your initiative. Well done.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      March 26, 2019, 9:24 pm

      It isn’t. One side are settlers illegaly colonizing a foreign country and the other side are natives who are trying to return to their own.

  10. Nathan
    Nathan
    March 26, 2019, 11:17 pm

    In late 1947, the Arab League convened in Cairo in order to decide on its response to the UN Partition Plan. Among the delegates was the former chief-of-staff of the Iraqi army whose task was to give a military estimate vis-a-vis a possible war with the Jews. The Iraqi general didn’t beat around the bush: “The Jews will smash us”. And with this very negative forecast regarding their chances in war, the Arab League delegates decided that they will invade Palestine as soon as the British Mandate comes to its end in order to prevent the Jews from establishing their state.

    This decision was unusual for two reasons. It was the only time that states decided to foil a UN decision through war. More interesting, it was a very rare moment in history in which thinking adults decided to go to war despite the evaluation that the war was a hopeless cause.

    The reason that this sad story comes to mind is the quote that appears here at the end of the article: “Musa said, ‘I guess next week, thousands of stretchers will be full of injuries and dead, and the same number of crutches will be used by new victims’.”

    What does one do in the face of a lost battle? Well, surely one avoids the battle. It’s better to negotiate, to reach some kind of compromise. Sadly, this simple logic doesn’t work in the Middle East. It’s hard to understand sending an army to certain defeat, and it’s certainly a mystery why after a year of pointless demonstrations at the border fence it is now planned to expand the pointlessness. But the biggest mystery of all is the attitude of the “friends” of the Palestinian people who don’t live in the Middle East. Not a single one of you has the sense to cry out to the Palestinians, begging them to call it off.

    • Jackdaw
      Jackdaw
      March 27, 2019, 1:05 am

      @Nathan

      No mystery at all.
      The Arab leaders, and their subjects, were following a religious edict that required armed struggle against the Jews. See historian, Benny Morris, ‘1948 as Jihad’.

      “In light of the available records, it would appear that many of the Arab partiocipants in the 1948 War saw that onslaught against the Yishuv\Israel as a holy war, jihad, against a foreign and infidel invader.” “… the political and military leaders of the Arab states and the “Street” in Cairo and Baghdad and Sana and Marakesh, and the soldiers who actually fought in the war, saw it as a holy war and not only, or perhaps even not mainly, as a nationalist war between two national movements”.

      “On the 2nd of December 1947, three days after the UN vote, the ulama – the chief scholars of theology – of the University of Al-Azhar, in Cairo, perhaps the most important arbiters and authorities in the Sunni Muslim world, declared a “worldwide jihad in defense of Arab Palestine ”.
      In the course of the war, the Ulama of Al-Azhar periodically renewed the fatwa and call to jihad. “The liberation of Palestine [is] a religious duty for all Muslims without exception, great and small. The Islamic and Arab governments should without delay take effectiove and radical measures, military or otherwise,” pronounced the Ulama at the end of April 1948. On the day of the Egyptian Army invasion of Palestine, 15 May, Muhammed Mamun Shinawi, the rector of Al- Azhar, declared: “ The hour of “ jihad ” has struck … A hundred of you will defeat a thousand of the infidels … This is the hour in which … . Allah promised paradise … “ And in December 1948, on the eve of the final bout of hostilities between the IDF and the Egyptians in the Negev and Sinai, the ulama of Al-Azhar renewed their call for jihad and cautioned the Arab kings – this was directed at Abdullah, King of Jordan, who was suspected of colluding with the Jews – against deviating from “ the way of the believers.” Otherwise, they faced “damnation.”

      These fatwas, are still in effect.

      • YoniFalic
        YoniFalic
        March 27, 2019, 8:53 am

        And so what if some middle ranking jurisprudents declared a jihad against the white racist European colonial-settlers that invaded the Levant, were trying to steal Palestine, and were (and still are) committing genocide against the natives?

        The non-Muslim international community should have joined the Arab league in resisting the white racist European genocidaires.

        In any case, the Chief Rabbis of the invaders have routinely declared every war against the natives and native allies to represent a milhemet mitzvah, which is jihad in Hebrew.

      • Jackdaw
        Jackdaw
        March 27, 2019, 6:08 pm

        @LonelyPhallic

        Your breathtaking ignorance is only exceeded by your hate-filled heart.

        “white racist European colonial-settlers”

        The early Zionist were not racists. There is not even a trace of racism in their speeches or memoirs.
        In fact, Ben Gurion, Yitzhak Ben Avi and other early Zionist believed that the Arabs were crypto Jews, or descended from Jews.

        “The Arabs of Palestine are none but those ancient Jews who were forced to convert to the religion of Arab Bedouin, who had conquered the land in the seventh century.

        Nor were the Zionists ‘colonial-settlers’.

        Colonial-settlers, like the Spanish, French, Portugeuse and British, brought their culture and language to a land they had no historic tie to, and imposed that culture and language, etc, on the native majority. Most important of all, the Zionists did not have a native country to return to and trade with.
        The Spanish imposed Christianity on native Americans and sent their plunder back home to Spain. The early Zionists did no such thing.

        Zionism is a totally unique movement, in no way related to colonial-settlements in spite of what some vile, dogmatic leftist ideologues may say.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        March 27, 2019, 10:31 pm

        “Zionism is a totally unique movement, ”

        Maybe so. Both unique and evil.

      • Jackdaw
        Jackdaw
        March 28, 2019, 6:51 am

        @Rohahaha

        Unique and evil, like your anti-Semitism.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        March 28, 2019, 10:57 am

        Jackdaw: “In fact, Ben Gurion, …”

        You claim is that the had chief of the expulsion of Nonjews was not racist? ROFL.

        Jackdaw: “Colonial-settlers, like the Spanish, French, Portugeuse and British, brought their culture and language to a land they had no historic tie to, and imposed that culture and language, etc, on the native majority.”

        So the only difference is a “historic tie”? That doesn’t make colonial-settlers less colonial-settlers.

        Jackdaw: “Most important of all, the Zionists did not have a native country to return to and trade with.”

        Doesn’t make them less colonial-settlers either.

        Jackdaw: “The Spanish imposed Christianity on native Americans and sent their plunder back home to Spain. The early Zionists did no such thing.”

        Doesn’t make them less colonial-settlers either.

        The Zionist imposed their Jewishness on Palestine and kept their plunder.

        Jackdaw: “Zionism is a totally unique movement, …”

        It surely is in the post colonial/post-Nazi era.

        Jackdaw “… in no way related to colonial-settlements in spite of what some vile, dogmatic leftist ideologues may say.”

        LOL. Your fake counter-arguments just imploded into a big insult. What a surprise.

        Jackdaw: “Unique and evil, like your anti-Semitism.”

        There’s more evil and antisemitism in your accusation of antisemitism than you are able to realize.

      • Keith
        Keith
        March 28, 2019, 11:04 am

        JACKDAW- “There is not even a trace of racism in their speeches or memoirs.”

        Of course not! You always commit acts of terrorism and ethnically cleanse the ones you love! Credit where credit is due, your comment raises chutzpah to new heights! The Zionist founding fathers were racists to the core and considered themselves European. Some quotes for you.

        “It reminds one of the words written some 108 years ago by Theodor Herzl, the father of modern Zionism, in his book “Der Judenstaat”, the founding document of Zionism: “For Europe we would constitute (in Palestine) a part of the wall against Asia, we would serve as an outpost of Culture against Barbarism.” (Uri Avnery) http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/archives_barak/

        “Neither Zangwill nor Weizmann intended these demographic assessments in a literal fashion. They did not mean that there were no people in Palestine, but that there were no people worth considering within the framework of the notions of European supremacy that then held sway. In this connection, a comment by Weizmann to Arthur Ruppin, the head of the colonization department of the Jewish Agency, is particularly revealing. When asked by Ruppin about the Palestinian Arabs, Weizmann replied: “The British told us that there are there some hundred thousands negroes [Kushim] and for those there is no value.” (Nur Masalha) https://www.palestine-studies.org/resources/special-focus/zionist-settler-colonialism

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        March 29, 2019, 1:14 am

        I don’t think my anti-Semitism is unique.

        It seems to be pretty much the standard anti-Semitism of those who are disgusted by the evil acts of the Zionists, and the way so many Jews around the world support those evil acts.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        March 29, 2019, 5:08 am

        RoHa: “I don’t think my anti-Semitism is unique.

        It seems to be pretty much the standard anti-Semitism of those who are disgusted by the evil acts of the Zionists, and the way so many Jews around the world support those evil acts.”

        Make that “unique and evil” acts of the Zionists.

        But what does Jackdaw and his fellows imply, if he accuses you of antisemitism? That the unique and evil acts of Zionists are genuinly Jewish. That this is something Jews as such cannot stop. That this is somehow in their genes or what makes them Jewish. That someone who critisizes this is anti-Jewish or hating Jews and of course Israel which they imply is the nationalized embodiment of Jewishness/Judaism. That Israel is “the Jew”.

        This is Jackdaw’s own unique and evil antisemitism which he projects unto others.

        So if you really want to be a unique and evil antisemite, RoHa, just create an account and acuse everyone who criticizes Israel or Jewish Zionists of antisemitism. Just act like Jackdaws and his fellows on MW who try so hard to make anyone believe on a daily base that violence and against Non-Jews and the violation of their rights is the essence of being Jewish and thereby Israel. And that even Jews who do not agree with this just hate Jews and themselves. This is the purely unique and evil antisemitism which is happening not only here on MW.

        “The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies.” Theodoer Hertzl.

        Which Zionist wouldn’t be delighted about antisemitism or its rise? It is the very pseudo justifaction and legitimation of Israel’s existence.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 29, 2019, 12:05 pm

        “Zionism is a totally unique movement!” “Dabakr”

        And “Dabakr” wins a dozen of these handsome “Jews sui generis” lapel buttons.

    • Peter in SF
      Peter in SF
      March 27, 2019, 5:19 am

      Nathan, where do you get your material from?

      • gamal
        gamal
        March 27, 2019, 8:50 am

        “from?”

        it’s a mystery, not worth engaging with, however a well known, Qadi, Alim, taught by women oddly enough and who wrote quite a bit on Jihad (which is not “Holy War” obviously) has some words which are a kind of balm, when you find yourself going all ‘the injuns are coming’

        its from the untranslatable …’interpreter of yearning’ the Tarjuman…

        O Marvel,
        a garden among the flames!

        My heart can take on
        any form:
        a meadow for gazelles,
        a cloister for monks,

        For the idols, sacred ground,
        Ka’ba for the circling pilgrim,
        the tables of the Torah,
        the scrolls of the Qur’án.

        I profess the religion of love;
        wherever its caravan turns along the way,
        that is the belief,
        the faith I keep.

        or

        There was a time when I used to reject those who were not of my faith.
        My heart has grown capable of taking on all forms.
        A pasture for gazelles, a convent for Christians.
        A temple for idols, a Kaaba for pilgrims.
        A table for the Torah, the book of the Quran.
        My religion is love. Whatever path the caravan of love shall take, that path shall be the path of my faith.

        what does anything mean?

        honestly don’t you feel better, some peoples’ shit is so depressing I do. He died 1240 AD and was Iberian but had some revelations in Mecca.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        March 27, 2019, 10:04 pm

        Thanks, Gamal. Slightly less depressed.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      March 27, 2019, 10:57 am

      Nathan: “It was the only time that states decided to foil a UN decision through war …,”

      Nathan you are a liar. I’m, not saying that you are just uninformed. You just repeat the same debunked lies over and over again.

      At least once on July 29, 2017, 3:48 am I wrote in response to one of your comments the following and quoted from Security Council resolution 46, 17 April 1948:

      “1. Calls upon all persons and organizations in Palestine, and especially upon the Arab Higher Committee and the Jewish Agency, to take immediately, without prejudice to their rights, claims, or positions, and as a contribution to the well-being and permanent interests of Palestine, the following measures: …

      (d) Refrain, pending further consideration of the future Government of Palestine by the General Assembly, from any political activity which might prejudice the rights, claims, or position of either community;”

      Partition had been put on ice in April 1948. The leading proponent US went from supporting partition to supporting an UN trusteeship and others followed. The US tried to broker a truce. The Arabs accepted. The Jews didn’t. The US diplomat Robert Mccklintock noted:

      “The Jewish Agency refusal [of the truce] exposes its aim to set up its separate state by force of arms – the military action after May 15 will be conducted by the Haganah with the help of the terrorist organizations, the Irgun and LEHI, [and] the UN will face a distorted situation. The Jews will be the real aggressors against the Arabs, but will claim they are only defending the borders of the state, decided upon … by the General Assembly.”

      At least once on August 29, 2018, 5:29 am I used the following quote in responce to one of your comments:

      …, U.S. officials there faced the Jewish Agency’s rejection of a truce as well as a trusteeship arrangement to replace what the State Department and the White House conceded to be the failure of the partition plan. In evaluating the situation, Robert McClintock, a special assistant to Dean Rusk, then director of the Office of UN Affairs, deliberated over the implications of these developments. It may well be, he speculated, that Washington would soon be confronted with a situation created by Jewish military forces, including the Haganah, the Stern Gang and Irgun, in which it would have to determine whether a “Jewish armed attack on Arab communities

      in Palestine is legitimate or whether it constitutes such a threat to international peace and security as to call for coercive measures by the Security Council.”15 Washington would face what McClintock called an “anomalous situation,” in which “the Jews will be the actual aggressors against the Arabs. However, the Jews will claim that they are merely defending the boundaries of a state which were traced by the UN and approved, at least in principle, by two-thirds of the UN membership.””
      http://mepc.org/journal/middle-east-policy-archives/us-policy-israel/palestine-1948?print

      So it was the Zionist Jews who “decided to foil a UN decision through war”. It was them who violated a Security Council Resolution. It was them who rejected a truce which would have prevented the intervention of the Arab armies. It was them who rejected an UN trusteeship, becaus they decided to set up a “separate state by force of arms”.

      The timing of the declaration of statehood even violated resolution 181 if it had been still active as well as its utterly racist Nationality law which denationalized every Nonjew in 1952 Israel managed to keep expelled.

      But you just have to repeat your lies over and over again, don’t you, Nathan? And you are obviously not the only Zionist liar on MW who has ignored similar responses to their Zionist kindergarden myths.

    • eljay
      eljay
      March 27, 2019, 2:49 pm

      || Nathan: … What does one do in the face of a lost battle? Well, surely one avoids the battle. … the biggest mystery of all is the attitude of the “friends” of the Palestinian people who don’t live in the Middle East. Not a single one of you has the sense to cry out to the Palestinians, begging them to call it off. ||

      If the Palestinians were to “call it off”, would Israel:
      – end its on-going occupation and colonization of territory outside of its / Partition borders?
      – reform into a secular and democratic state of and for all of its citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees, equally?
      – respect and uphold justice, equality and human rights?
      – honour its obligations under international law and, among other things, allow its non-Jewish refugees to return to their homes and lands?
      – accept responsibility and accountability for its past and on-going (war) crimes?

      Didn’t think so.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      March 27, 2019, 9:52 pm

      ” It’s better to negotiate, to reach some kind of compromise. ”

      That’s really impressive. It is quite normal for a Zionist apologist to ignore the points made in response to comments, and just keep repeating the same old lines, but you have succeeded in ignoring your own comments as well.

      As I have told you before, the Palestinians have tried negotiations and compromise over and over again.

      In 1947 they put forward the idea of a single, unified, democratic state in Palestine, with equal rights for all citizens, Hebrew as an official language, and freedom of education for Jews. The Zionists rejected it.

      And you yourself treat the Arab Peace deal as a compromise on the Right of Return.

      https://mondoweiss.net/2019/03/approaches-discusses-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-945481

      (You draw the wrong conclusion in thinking that this means that the ROR no longer holds, but you are correct in thinking that it means that the Palestinians are prepared to negotiate and compromise on the implementation.)

      This compromise, too, was rejected by the Israeli Zionists. The GOI ignores it.

      The plain fact is that the Zionists will not negotiate in good faith, and will neither make nor accept any compromises.

      There is no point in the Palestinians trying to negotiate with them.

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