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‘Things could move very quickly’ — Dems are now the anti-annexation party, taking on Netanyahu and Pompeo

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One result of the Israeli election is that it cements the Democratic Party’s role as the anti-Netanyahu party, the party opposed to the rightwing goal the prime minister embraced in the last days of the campaign, to annex the illegal Jewish settlement blocs on the West Bank.

In recent days, many leading Democrats have come out against the Netanyahu plan, with Pete Buttigieg echoing Bernie Sanders’s words of four years ago (you don’t have to agree with Netanyahu). Since Netanyahu’s reelection the warnings from Dems have become more dire.

Dianne Feinstein, surely the most principled of the old-guard Democrats, said yesterday that Israel cannot “maintain its military occupation of the West Bank in perpetuity”:

Now that Prime Minister Netanyahu will likely form the next government, I urge his coalition to exercise restraint and reject campaign promises to annex any portion of the West Bank – doing so would be a serious blow to lasting peace…

For its own long-term survival, Israel must choose a different path forward. As Israel forms a new government, I urge its leaders to take no action – particularly annexing the West Bank – that would kill a two-state solution.

Before the election, pro-Israel Rep. Jan Schakowsky issued an alarm:

For years, bipartisan majorities have signed onto congressional resolutions supporting a two-state solution. Netanyahu has issued a direct threat against that vision. To my colleagues who’ve expressed their support for two states: Your voices are needed now.

Former Obama official Julian Castro is making the issue a centerpiece of his campaign to be president:

In abandoning our position as a good faith partner in the Middle East peace process, the Trump admin has enabled reckless actions like this from Netanyahu. US support for a two-state solution is on the line in November 2020.

J Street is urging all Democratic presidentials to draw the line on annexation.

Castro joins @PeteButtigieg and @BetoORourke in calling out Netanyahu’s dangerous pledge to annex the West Bank.
This is the type of principled leadership we need from 2020 hopefuls.

Senator Chris Van Hollen two days ago pressed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on the Trump administration’s view of “unilateral annexation.” Notice Van Hollen’s near desperation as he sees facts changing on the ground:

It sounds like you have already abandoned what has been a bipartisan foreign policy of opposing the annexation of any or part of the West Bank by Israel… The polls are closing right now in Israel. Things could move very quickly. And as you know the prime minister as a candidate said he would annex all or part of the West Bank. He said settlements and then he said outposts. And today you cannot tell us what US policy is on the issue…. Do you agree that Palestinians should be extended basic human rights?

Pompeo said yes, but didn’t answer the overall policy issue. Van Hollen then imagined one state with equal rights!

If you had a one state solution since you hadn’t affirmed a two-state solution would you agree that in a one state solution Palestinians should have full and equal political and legal rights with other citizens of that state?… I asked you about unilateral annexation… You can’t tell me if that’s something you support… Do you think that you can preserve a state that is Jewish and democratic and preserves the rights of all its citizens without a two-state solution?

Van Hollen on twitter:

After asking multiple times, @SecPompeo refused to tell me if the United States would oppose @Netanyahu’s plan to unilaterally annex all or large parts of the West Bank even though it would clearly sabotage any prospect for a two-state solution.

Virginia Senator Tim Kaine did the same two-step with Pompeo (Jewish Insider’s clip from C-Span).

Kaine: Would we support an annexation of the West Bank, do we oppose it, or are we indifferent to whether that happens?

Pompeo: We are now working with many parties to share what our vision is for how to solve this problem. Senator, you would concede that for decades now there have been all of these wonderful experts that have tried resolve this crisis in the Middle East, the conflict between Israel and the Palestinian people, and they have each failed. So the old set of ideas aren’t worth retreading, they have simply not succeeded. We are hopeful that our vision, our ideas of what this might look like, how we might proceed to do that– will create the conditions where the Israelis and the Palestinians can resolve this.

Kaine: Do you think the two-state solution is an old idea whose time has gone?

Pompeo: It’s certainly been an idea that’s been around a long time, Senator…I would argue that millions of man hours have been spent to try and build out a two state solution. It hasn’t worked to date. It may work this afternoon, but it hasn’t worked yet.

Pompeo did say the Palestinians have to buy in to the solution.

For there to be a peaceful resolution here, the Palestinian people are– we’ve seen intifadas, we’ve seen protests, we’ve seen what’s happening in Gaza. I think the Israelis accept the fact that what the ultimate resolution of this will be something that the Palestinian people are going to have to acknowledge makes sense.

Kaine said he was shocked.

I won’t follow up on the hypothetical of whether this administration still accepts the notion of a two-state solution. I’m kind of shocked that that can’t be stated clearly.

Martin Indyk is shaping the Democratic response to annexation, it will not bring peace.

There was no chance of Israeli-Palestinian peace before Trump recognized Israel’s Golan annexation; there’s even less than none if Bibi forms an annexationist government which now seems likely. The only peace Trump will make is between him and Bibi…

It’s been three days since Netanyahu declared his intention to annex all West Bank settlements. Radio silence from the Trump Administration. Has @jdgreenblatt45 lost his twitter thumbs? Or should we assume that silence means acquiescence?

Aaron David Miller has the same view:

Trump is the most preternaturally pro-Netanyahu US President in history. If he enables Israeli Government’s annexation of West Bank and facilitates Netanyahu’s efforts to end run his indictments he may well be remembered as one of the most anti-Israeli presidents in history.

Jeremy Ben-Ami of J Street warns that annexation will alienate American Jews.

“We will see a fundamental change in the US-Israel relationship… The move to annexation, cementing Palestinian disenfranchisement, is not acceptable for a majority of the Democratic Party and most American liberal Jews”

Jane Eisner issued a similar warning about divorce between American Jews and Israel over annexation on WNYC this a.m.

Michael Koplow issued the warning at Israel Policy Forum:

If American Jewry feels marginalized now, just wait for what is coming…

Any hope of amending, let alone repealing, the nation-state law is going to be a cruel joke. The dominant theme of this government is going to be hardline religious policies that erase the already barely visible line between state and religion, and it will make American Jews feel more marginalized in the Jewish state than they already do

Abe Silberstein at Israel Policy Forum hopes that Netanyahu forms a centrist government with Benny Gantz’s Blue and White that won’t attempt annexation, but that’s not the smart money. “[T]he chances of some sort of annexation on the West Bank are considerable.”

Most Israeli experts I follow are predicting a completely right-wing coalition, ranging from Likud to the extremist Union of Right-Wing Parties. This would be the worst outcome for Israelis primarily concerned about the rule of law and the country’s democratic future: not only do the number of Knesset members who support annexation vastly outnumber those favoring separation (even fewer speak explicitly of the two-state solution), but there is a predictable deal on the table to trade a limited annexation for passage of a retroactive “French Law,” which would give Netanyahu full legal immunity for offenses committed while in office.

But perhaps worst of all, the strongest deterrent against annexation is effectively on the sidelines: Yesterday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo refused to say if the United States would oppose unilateral annexation.

Silberstein says that will alienate American Jews.

This puts diaspora Jews concerned about the Jewish state’s liberal democratic character in a gut-wrenching bind. There is no clear path forward to stopping annexation in the short and medium term through Israeli and American political institutions. Perhaps the European Union could provide Netanyahu the room to maneuver her needs to fend off annexationists (that is, if he still opposes annexation).

(Well, liberal Zionists could come out for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS). That would be a countermove.)

Lastly, here for the record is Beto O’Rourke’s full quote on Netanyahu being a racist, from CNN correspondent DJ Judd. Annexation figures prominently.

Beto O’Rourke statement on Netanyahu’s racism. April 7, 2019.

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  1. eljay on April 11, 2019, 1:48 pm

    So much wailing and gnashing of teeth because Jewish supremacists and their overtly supremacist “Jewish State” construct continue to commit (war) crimes and other injustices and they do so anti-Semitically in the name of all Jews because Jewish / “Jewish State” supremacism’s tattered veneer of civility may be further compromised.

    • Misterioso on April 12, 2019, 9:25 am

      @eljay, et al

      MUST WATCH:

      https://forward.com/fast-forward/422430/watch-omar-colbert-anti-semitism-stephen-miller/

      VIDEO:
      “Omar Defends Herself On Colbert About Anti-Semitism [and] Stephen Miller” Forward, April 11/19, by Aiden Pink.

      “Rep. Ilhan Omar appeared on ‘The Late Show with Stephen Colbert’ on Wednesday, and right away was pressed to talk about the accusations of anti-Semitism that have bedeviled her in the last year.

      “After Colbert gave a rundown of one of her controversies – specifically, her tweet claiming that congressional support for Israel was ‘All about the Benjamins,’ for which she later apologized – Omar explained that her experience ‘really has been one of growth for me.’

      “’Often times when you’re speaking, you might not understand the historical context of some of the words you might use and the kind of pain it might incite for people,” she continued. ‘So in this process, I’m learning that everything is not as simple as we might think we might want to state it. And as I’ve said to my constituents, to my colleagues, when you tell me that you are pained by something that I say, I will always listen and I will acknowledge your pain – the same that I expect. So when you have people on Fox News that question whether I am actually American or put America first, I expect my colleagues to say that’s not okay and call that out.’

      “Omar recently called White House advisor Stephen Miller, who is Jewish, a white nationalist – for this, Republicans again called her anti-Semitic. But Colbert defended her from this charge. ‘Haven’t I said that?’ the host asked rhetorically.

      “’You get attacked, A, because of some of the history you already have in terms of being a cudgel in the area of anti-Semitism, the accusations, regardless of your apology, but also, because you’re a Muslim, because you’re a woman, because you’re a person of color, you’re given less latitude than someone like me,’ he said.

      “Colbert’s final question was about the pressure Omar and other freshmen representatives like Rashida Tlaib and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have had to stay out of the spotlight and not push controversial legislation. ‘We are not there to be quiet, we are not there to be invisible,’ Omar said, citing the history of women and people of color asked to wait for progress to come to them.”

  2. amigo on April 11, 2019, 2:01 pm

    “In abandoning our position as a good faith partner in the Middle East peace process, the Trump admin has enabled reckless actions like this from Netanyahu. US support for a two-state solution is on the line in November 2020.”.

    You can make the so called 2SS impossible by stealing land on a daily but don,t you dare try to Annex it.

    What,s wrong with this picture.

  3. pgtl10 on April 11, 2019, 2:45 pm

    Most Israeli experts I follow are predicting a completely right-wing coalition, ranging from Likud to the extremist Union of Right-Wing Parties. This would be the worst outcome for Israelis primarily concerned about the rule of law and the country’s democratic future:
    _____________________

    There’s democracy,

    Signed a Palestinian with no voting rights.

    • echinococcus on April 12, 2019, 12:21 am

      pgtl,

      “a completely right-wing coalition, ranging from Likud to the extremist Union of Right-Wing Parties.”

      It’s a carrion-eating vulture and it couldn’t ever fly without both wings. So who gives a rat’s behind what wing wins what?

      “This would be the worst outcome for Israelis primarily concerned about the rule of law and the country’s democratic future:”

      There isn’t, nor can there be, any “rule of law” in a military invasion and occupation by foreign colonial and genocidal riffraff, and don’t even try to mention “democratic future” there.

      As for the “worst outcome”, that is precisely what is to be most fervently wished for Zionist invaders of Palestine. If what you wrote were true, then (which I am not sure of) more of that is good.

    • Nathan on April 12, 2019, 4:41 pm

      pgtl10 – If the Palestinians were griping that they do not have the right to vote in the Israeli elections, there surely it would make sense that you would raise the issue. However, there is no Palestinian demand to be granted Israeli citizenship and to vote in the Knesset elections. The position of the Palestinians who are citizens of Israel is that “Israeli citizenship was forced upon us…” Asking for Israeli citizenship and asking to participate in the Israeli elections is exactly the same as accepting the legitimacy of the State of Israel, and that is (quite frankly) the very essence of conflict. The Palestinians reject the legitimacy of Israel, and so they do not request to be part of it.

      On the other hand, the Palestinians claim that they have established their own state. Its name is the State of Palestine, and they even went to the UN in 2012 and asked to be given the status of non-member observer STATE. Not too surprisingly, the UN granted them that which they requested: Recognition of Palestinian statehood. Apparently, this was a move that the anti-Israel crowd didn’t like, because everyone pretends that the grievance is that the Palestinians cannot vote in Israel. It’s rather clear that the Palestinians would like for Israel to disappear – not to participate in her election process.

      There is Palestinian citizenship, there is a Palestinian parliament and there is a Palestinian government. Many years ago, there were even Palestinian elections. Unfortunately, Mr Abbas fears that renewed elections will bring about the election of a Hamas president, and that is an untolerable thought. The position of the PLO is that only the PLO represents the Palestinian people, so there are no elections in the State of Palestine in order that a PLO leader will remain in power. If, indeed, the non-participation of Palestinians in elections troubles you, you might consider writing in the comments’ section of a Palestinian publication, calling upon them to get their act together and finally hold elections. If you have troubles writing your thoughts in Arabic, I’d be willing to help you. Remind the Palestinians that Mr Abbas was elected for just four years (not fifteen). I hope that you are capable of raising some mild criticism of the Palestinians. They are adults, so they should be able to handle it.

      By the way, there are two Palestinian states. There is an undeclared state (but a real state) in Gaza that is capable of waging real war, has diplomatic relations with other states and has a government, etc. In the West Bank, the Palestinians claim that there is a state (they have declared statehood) and they have asked everyone to recognize it. It would be an act of basic politeness if you would push an agenda that the Palestinians are pushing. They want to be citizens of the State of Palestine, not to participate in the statehood and the elections of their enemy.

      • eljay on April 12, 2019, 5:58 pm

        || Nathan: … Asking for Israeli citizenship and asking to participate in the Israeli elections is exactly the same as accepting the legitimacy of the State of Israel … ||

        And the woman chained in the basement is aware that asking for the rapist’s hand in marriage and asking to participate in his life is exactly the same as accepting the legitimacy of his abusive domination over her.

        || … By the way, there are two Palestinian states. … ||

        Proof that Zionists effectively divided-and-conquered. You should be proud.

  4. ckg on April 11, 2019, 3:08 pm

    “(Well, liberal Zionists could come out for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS). That would be a countermove.)”

    Yesterday AFTER Benjamin “Annex the Settlements” Netanyahu emerged victorious in the election, eight more Democrats and six more Republicans in the House added their names to the cosponsors of H.Res.246. This resolution is titled “Opposing efforts to delegitimize the State of Israel and the Global Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions Movement targeting Israel”. This brings the total of cosponsors to 116 Democrats (including the sponsor) and 83 Republicans.

    Zionists, liberals and conservatives alike, are moving the chains.

  5. ckg on April 11, 2019, 4:15 pm

    Beto said Netanyahu is “racist” and “doesn’t represent the true will of the Israeli people”. Beto got the first part right.

    • Kay24 on April 12, 2019, 6:59 am

      I beg to differ. Netanyahu is a racist, and DOES present the true will of the Israeli people. The recent elections proved it.

      • ckg on April 12, 2019, 10:17 am

        Exactly. The elections proved it.

  6. wondering jew on April 11, 2019, 5:23 pm

    Those who advocate one state, if it is more than just an idea, you should be pleased by Bibi’s annexation. You should call it a move in the right direction. You should assert that he hasn’t gone far enough. He must annex the entire west bank and give all residents the right to vote. Democratic candidates clinging to the two state solution should be mere distraction. If indeed you favor one state, Israeli annexation is the path that leads to your stated destination.

    The next step chronologically should be the Trump big deal. It will take Bibi a month about to form the government and Trump should be pressured to release his plan already, what is he waiting for.

    I realize that by backing Zionism, a family in Gaza deems me their imprisoner.

    It is not enough to convince me of the future equanimity of one state, you have to convince me enough to argue the cause as if it’s my own and for that I must truly believe it. I have no faith in the future kumbaya state that is proffered here, and certainly insufficient faith to argue it to others and unlike most of you denizens of the internet who never talk in person to anyone who gives 2 farts about this issue, let alone someone who disagrees with you face to face, your entire palestine world takes place between your ears and in your fingertips, but never 99.9% of the time face to face even with those that agree with you and zero point zero zero zero with people who disagree with you, your need to be able to communicate in face to face is never even tested. never. whereas my need to communicate face to face is tested all the time, regularly. So you have to convince me, it ain’t enough to taunt me. and for that the first step would be some sort of a conversation. which is about as likely as throwing 4 sixes in a row on one die. (1/1296)

    • Mooser on April 11, 2019, 6:19 pm

      “I realize that by backing Zionism, a family in Gaza deems me their imprisoner.”

      Only fair isn’t it, “Yonah”? You ought to get some nachas from Zionism, too, even if you don’t live in Israel.

      “whereas my need to communicate face to face is tested all the time, regularly.” “WJ”

      ROTFLMSJAO! Oh yeah, we’ve seen that. If you can’t win the argument, you at least win a friend.

      ” (1/1296)”

      Uh-oh, “Yonah’s” keeping score!

      • amigo on April 11, 2019, 7:14 pm

        ROTFLMSJAO! Oh yeah, we’ve seen that. If you can’t win the argument, you at least win a friend.

        “Uh-oh, “Yonah’s” keeping score!” Mooser

        1/1296 means 1 friend gained from 1297 face to face communications.

      • Mooser on April 12, 2019, 12:02 pm

        “1/1296 means 1 friend gained from 1297 face to face communications.”

        Ah, I see. He must mean you, or (if I don’t hurt your feelings by saying so) me, or maybe “eljay”.

      • eljay on April 12, 2019, 3:45 pm

        || Mooser: “1/1296 means 1 friend gained from 1297 face to face communications.”

        Ah, I see. He must mean you, or (if I don’t hurt your feelings by saying so) me, or maybe “eljay”. ||

        I doubt we’ll ever even meet but my offer to buy him coffee and have a chat still stands.

        No Zionist need ever fear violence from me. I wish I could feel the same way about all Zionists.

        (Although I’m pretty sure that – unlike catalan – y.f. wouldn’t try to do evil unto me.)

    • Donald on April 11, 2019, 6:26 pm

      We aren’t relevant, Yonah ( except for any commenters here who are Palestinian) and if you are talking to Israeli Jews and Palestinians those are exactly the people you should be talking to. I said recently I never understood why a workable 2ss would be that much easier than the Kumbaya 1ss as you put it. In a workable 2ss, the two peoples are still going to be on top of each other. Palestinians and Israelis would presumably be crossing the border constantly. If that wasn’t the case, if it was tense and angry, it would probably fall apart.

      Either way, the two sides are going to have to end up liking each other or tolerating each other far more than they do now. So you need that Kumbaya factor in either case.

      It doesn’t matter at all if people in a comment section don’t get along. Most political blogs that I have seen have one prevailing view and the dissidents get yelled at.

      In my case you are mostly right. I occasionally talk about this subject with people in real life, but it is rare. It’s not a central issue for most Americans. I think as an American we should stop supporting Israeli apartheid, but I don’t spend time thinking about how Israelis and Palestinians should work towards a 1ss.

      • Mooser on April 12, 2019, 11:45 am

        “but I don’t spend time thinking about how Israelis and Palestinians should work towards a 1ss.”

        Well, we could suggest that the Israelis get along with the Palestinians the way Jewish people in the US get along with everybody else here.

    • amigo on April 11, 2019, 6:37 pm

      “your need to be able to communicate in face to face is never even tested. never. whereas my need to communicate face to face is tested all the time, regularly” WJ aka Yonah Fredman

      Judging by the voluminous and garrulousness nature of your archives , one has to wonder when you have the time for ‘Face to Face” communication.

      “Garrulousness ” , excessive talkativeness; it is most often used for tedious, rambling talkers.

      Why have a face to face with you Yonah–one would not get a word in edgeways and be truly tested.

      • amigo on April 11, 2019, 8:30 pm

        Should read “Garrulous ” and not Garrulousness.

    • bcg on April 11, 2019, 7:34 pm

      @Wonderingjew: So what’s the endgame in your opinion? How is this going to end? What do you see for Israel 20 years from now?

      • wondering jew on April 11, 2019, 9:43 pm

        bcg- I don’t know.

        30 years ago when Jesse Jackson was giving Dukakis a serious run for his money for the democratic nomination i thought that the Democratic party was going to follow Jesse’s lead and be opposed to Israel. Two things happened afterwards- in the US, Bill Clinton took over the Democratic party and pushed it into a pro Israel, pro peace two state position that was enabled by Rabin (the 2nd thing). But the Rabin phase lasted for a short period and the reaction to the Rabin phase (and to the second intifada and the reaction to the Gaza situation) has led us to 10 years and counting of Bibi. I think Obama was ready to break with Israel, but he was way ahead of the Democratic party on that score.

        I think that the Democratic party will move into a confrontational mode towards Israel and the Republicans will still be siding with Israel in 20 years. Once the Democrats become dominant in the Congress as well as the White House, then there will be sustained pressure on Israel. Assuming there is no real change in the region, all I can say is that it will be interesting to watch. If I were prime minister of Israel or capable of hypnotizing the Knesset in their sleep for 12 months or so i would sign up on the 2003 beilin abd rabbo geneva peace initiative, but you can tell by my “hypnotizing the Knesset” that I don’t see it as likely. i think annexing the west bank is not the biggest problem that israel could face, and gaza presents the more complicated problem, a large population that sees its homeland precisely in the same place that Israel sees its homeland and gaza is the bigger problem. there are enough jews in israel to offset the Palestinian population of the west bank, but Gaza is “indigestible” and will remain quarantined even if Israel moves towards annexing the west bank, and once you annex, giving citizenship will follow within 20 years of annexation, from internal pressure and external pressure.
        bcg- I’m not sure. i see a clash between israel and the democratic party and how that clash can resolve itself i don’t know.

      • Mooser on April 12, 2019, 11:55 am

        ” i don’t know…/…I don’t know “ “WJ”

        And if you cut out all the tinef in the middle, you could say it all while standing on one foot!

    • eljay on April 11, 2019, 9:26 pm

      || wondering jew @ April 11, 2019, 5:23 pm ||

      In summary: Israel must remain a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”.

      Imagine that.

    • RoHa on April 12, 2019, 12:29 am

      I, for one, welcome Israel’s annexation of the West Bank. The (not new) Israeli overlords will have to find some way of dealing with the Palestinian population. They have a variety of choices. (Not mutually exclusive.)
      1. Kill them all.
      2. Expel them.
      3. Lock them up in native reservations.
      4. Leave them as residents without rights, in pretty much the way they are now.
      5. Make them second-class citizens, like the current Palestinian Israelis.
      6. Make them, and the current Palestinian Israelis, full citizens.

      1 &2 would remind the world of the essential nature of Zionism, and lead to at least twenty minutes of condemnation from the world.

      3 & 4 would be just as unstable a situation as the current one.

      5 & 6 would lead, eventually, to the end of Israel as a Jewish state.

      I agree with you that the process of creating a single state will be tough, and that the Israeli Jews will probably not enjoy it. (Quite a few will, I am sure, discover that they have an extra passport or two.)
      But I am not convinced that this will be worse than the current injustice to the Palestinians.

  7. umm al-hamam on April 12, 2019, 2:48 am

    Democrats are upset because an Israeli annexation of the West Bank makes it less likely the US will have leverage over the “moderate Arab states” it cooperates with in e.g. the massacre in Yemen, the economic warfare against Iran, etc. Republicans are figuring it doesn’t matter because they can just strong-arm the “moderate Arab states” into doing their bidding anyway. Neither side actually cares about the Palestinians, it’s all just a disagreement in the foreign policy establishment over how best to utilise their Israeli puppet state in the never-ending war to control the world’s supply of fossil fuels. I realise this isn’t news to anyone here but figured it had to be said.

    • umm al-hamam on April 12, 2019, 2:55 am

      For that matter, even the “moderate Arab states” don’t care about the Palestinians, they’re all absolute monarchies or brutal dictatorships; they just don’t want a domestic insurrection on their hands from their populations who are rightfully angry that european settlers have dispossessed an indigenous population and have military dominance over the region.

      • Citizen on April 13, 2019, 5:48 am

        Agreed.

  8. Kay24 on April 12, 2019, 7:08 am

    I am skeptical. Soon we will see all members of Congress, embracing Netanyahu and his terrorist partners, welcome him to Congress, keep sending aid, and weapons, that are used to kill unarmed civilians, will attend AIPAC events, and stand at the podium to praise Netanyahu, and show unwavering support for Israel, even throwing their own under the bus, like they did to Rep. Omar, and support Netanyahu and his terror band, when he demands it.

    Let us be realistic.
    Why can’t Congress pass a resolution to cease support for Israel/Netanyahu until the occupation ends, just like they easily passed the resolution to cease supporting Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen? They can even threaten to stop the aid and weapons. We all know it will never happen.

  9. Ossinev on April 12, 2019, 7:09 am

    On the positive side the Israeli lunar probe has apparently crashed and burned. It was perchance sent up there for “defensive” purposes so no “legal” Zionist annexation of the moon for the time being.

    • Misterioso on April 12, 2019, 9:20 am

      @Ossinev, et al

      The crashing and burning of its lunar probe is a metaphor for “Israel’s” inevitable fate.

    • Mooser on April 12, 2019, 11:57 am

      Israel’s lunar outpost crashed?

      • Kay24 on April 12, 2019, 12:57 pm

        Are they trying to occupy the moon too? The aliens better be warned, very soon you will find illegal outposts springing up around the craters, and they might be occupied.

      • Citizen on April 13, 2019, 5:53 am

        It burned up due to faulty brakes before it landed. Official spiel: It was a success because it got as far as it did as a very cheap private endeavor.

      • Mooser on April 13, 2019, 1:51 pm

        “Official spiel: It was a success because it got as far as it did as a very cheap private endeavor.”

        Can’t wait for Israel’s manned space endeavors.

  10. James Canning on April 12, 2019, 10:53 am

    Trump fosters yet more illegal “annexations” by Israel, and thereby erodes further the moral standing of the US in the Middle East and around the planet.

  11. genesto on April 12, 2019, 12:56 pm

    The hypocrisy in all of these pronouncements is overwhelming!

    So, you can shoot to kill and maim tens of thousands of innocent demonstrators, massacre civilians in ‘war’, deny basic rights and access to critical resources, maintain 500-600 check points, and otherwise commit genocide against a people that simply want to live on their land. But, for heavens sake, DON’T destroy the ‘Peace Process’ by formally annexing the land you already completely control and eliminating the cover these gutless politicians having been using for decades to avoid taking a principled, but far too politically risky, position on the issue!

    Makes me sick to my stomach!!

    • Mooser on April 12, 2019, 1:38 pm

      “Dems are now the anti-annexation party, taking on…”

      “The anti-annexation party”? I very much doubt “anti-annexation” will be the harshest characterization of the Democratic stance on Israel we will hear in the coming months.

  12. [email protected] on April 12, 2019, 4:43 pm

    Well if the US position now is suddenly a country can invade another territory and annex it, well we will officially be rogue nation. Oops that happened two weeks ago with the Golan.

    • oldgeezer on April 12, 2019, 9:55 pm

      Well Saddam Hussein is glad. The US is working hard to legitimate everything he ever did. Even more actually as Israel’s crimes are much greater in sverity judged by population affected, duration of the criminal activity.

      • Kay24 on April 15, 2019, 4:58 am

        I agree. Had Iran occupied indigenous people for decades, stolen their lands for illegal settlements against International laws, collectively punished them, and killed their children at the slightest excuse, the zionist media in the US would be showing outrage everyday, and we would have shocked and awed them, in ways only we know how. Saudi Arabia and Israel’s crimes seem to somehow be overlooked and ignored by the media, Congress, and every US President.
        Whenever Israel goes on a killing spree, and entire families are wiped out, we hear justification from our leaders saying that Israel “has the right to defend itself” (we are not supposed to realize that they are “defending’ themselves from unarmed civilians, who basically protest their suffering). Israel’s shitty behavior somehow is now part of America’s shame.

    • DaBakr on April 13, 2019, 12:44 am

      @pd

      yeah, well the US did that to Hawaii not that long ago. To Mexico too.

      • Mooser on April 15, 2019, 12:20 pm

        “yeah, well the US did that”

        And anything the US can do (you know, like moon landings) Israel can do, too. Just as well, if not better!

    • Citizen on April 13, 2019, 5:58 am

      Yep.

      • amigo on April 15, 2019, 5:10 pm

        “And anything the US can do (you know, like moon landings) Israel can do, too. Just as well, if not better!”Mooser

        Mooser ,the Israeli plan is to make the lunar desert bloom and create a second historic home for the Jewish people in a sea of tranquility.

        Sort of a Land without People for a People who can,t get enough land.

      • gamal on April 16, 2019, 1:26 pm

        “the Israeli plan is to make the lunar desert bloom”

        If you click The Contemporary Condition, the link on the Bruce Robbins article for Bonnie Honigs piece there is pictured a JNF booklet entitled “From Sand To Land”, not only were there no people there the Zionists made the very land itself, and lonely rico posted a link to Dick Callahans site which I repost here it is enlightening, sand to land catchy, judging by the idiocy of what todays Zionist posters are selling it is to some anyway.

        https://www.dickcallahan.net/?s=baseline

      • amigo on April 17, 2019, 5:25 pm

        Gamal , thanks for the link.

        Very interesting stuff.

        OT , I wonder if Pelosi had a word in Leo,s ear about Ireland,s plans to outlaw “Israeli ” goods from Occupied Palestine , what with her life long commitment to the zionist entity.

        Could be he agreed to fight any such attempts in return for her promise to deny the UK any possibility of a trade agreement if Brexit endangers the Good Friday Agreement.

        What naive leo may not be aware of , is that Executive Branch makes the Trade Deals in the US , so Pelosi,s promises are worthless.

        https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/no-chance-of-us-uk-trade-deal-if-brexit-risks-belfast-agreement-pelosi-1.3863434

  13. NickJOCW on April 15, 2019, 11:28 am

    This situation is not really about Palestinians and Israelis, they are the focus of the broader issue of international law, international norms, humanitarian imperatives. It is scarcely possible today for people to understand quite what it felt like when after years of grinding destruction and over 60 million deaths WWII was one day over, or feel the rush of humanitarian impulse that propelled almost everyone into unquestioning enthusiasm for the UN and the notions of international law. It is that Israeli behaviour is destroying, and that obdurate destruction will bring them to heel. In pace with their activities there is an awakening. I feel it. See the audience responses in this clip: https://forward.com/fast-forward/422430/watch-omar-colbert-anti-semitism-stephen-miller/ I don’t think this was specifically inspired by Palestinian sentiment. I think it rather derives from a broader impulse to see laws and norms re-established, and see their application adopted by all. Of course if will never be perfect, but then even the Pope has a confessor. It’s gone too far the other way.

    • DaBakr on April 16, 2019, 10:55 am

      @n

      in the aftermath of ww2 some nations and some people were exhuberant about the possibilities of international law and the UN. Russia/Stalin was not concerned with humanitarian efforts while Mao ws unconcerned with individual rights. the arab nations were not enthusiastic at all even though britain, france, germany and other colonizers were creating borders and new arab nations from the remains of the arab conquest, ottoman and occidental conquests of the middle east. but yes, i understand the type of enthusiasm you refer to in the years after ww2

      • eljay on April 16, 2019, 1:19 pm

        || @Daa   April 16, 2019, 10:55 am ||

        IOW: Murderers exist, so it’s OK to rape.

        A standard argument used by Zionists in defence of their “moral beacon” and “light unto the nations” state.

      • DaBakr on April 18, 2019, 12:40 am

        @ej

        A true ideolog and optimist. I can’t remember it all but I was a lot more like that before 18.

      • eljay on April 18, 2019, 8:59 am

        || @aBr: @ej

        A true ideolog and optimist. I can’t remember it all but I was a lot more like that before 18. ||

        So…the older you got, the more evil you chose to become. Pity.

      • RoHa on April 18, 2019, 8:58 pm

        Eljay, if you can’t be evil when you get old, when can you be evil?

      • eljay on April 19, 2019, 9:17 am

        || RoHa: Eljay, if you can’t be evil when you get old, when can you be evil? ||

        Ideally never. Or maybe only when you wind up in Hell, although I’m not sure how you’d get there in the first place if you weren’t already evil.

      • RoHa on April 19, 2019, 9:56 pm

        “Ideally never.”

        Spoilsport.

  14. Ossinev on April 16, 2019, 12:39 pm

    @amigo
    “Mooser ,the Israeli plan is to make the lunar desert bloom and create a second historic home for the Jewish people in a sea of tranquility”

    Yes it`s effectively a Plan(et) Dalet Mark 2 eventually using modern day moral Haganah astronauts. There has got to be somewhere in the Book of Whatever a coded reference to a God given Jewish lunar homeland and Jews having been expelled by goyim aliens millenias ago.

    • amigo on April 17, 2019, 5:11 pm

      “Yes it`s effectively a Plan(et) Dalet Mark 2 eventually using modern day moral Haganah astronauts.” 0ssinev.

      Dressed in olive green spacesuits .

      The question is though , who will their enemies be once they have declared the “Man on the Moon” a terroreeest and assassinated him and demolished his house.

      I guess they can turn on each other , with a bit of luck.

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