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  • Denial of entry - the real targets are Palestinians
    • eljay /Misterioso , zionist logic is simple.

      If you can,t bomb them out of Gaza ( the future home of Jewish only "Communities" ) , then starve them out. It,s far less expensive and less of a drain on the defense budget.

      That,s how it works in the "Jewish Historic Homeland"whatever/ wherever the %%%% that is

  • Irish senate passes bill banning products from Israeli settlements
    • This will not pass without the usual interference by Israel,s friends.

      "Fianna Fáil has confirmed that it was lobbied by the US State Department, the US embassy in Dublin and the Israeli embassy in an effort to get the party to withdraw its support for a Bill which would ban goods from occupied Palestinian territories.

      A party spokesman confirmed to The Irish Times that the contacts were “cordial” and the party clarified its position, confirming that it intended to support the Bill.

      Fianna Fáil support is crucial to the Bill as it is strongly opposed by the Government. The Bill, proposed by Independent Senator Frances Back, passed its first vote in the Seanad on Wednesday by 25 votes to 20 with the support of Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin, Labour and several Independent Senators.

      Once it passes through the Seanad, it must then pass through the Dáil before becoming law. If supported by the same coalition of parties and Independents, it would have sufficient support to pass in the Dáil and become law.

      However, the Government says the Bill cannot be brought into force as trade is an EU competence. Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney, who spoke against the proposed legisation in the Seanad, said he was obliged to follow the advice of the Attorney General on the Bill.

      Apparently Simon Coveney has been taken in by nuttyahoo and believes Israel is serious when it claims to support a 2SS.He claims the passage of this bill would diminish his standing with the Israeli side.

      Simon , open your eyes --Israel is not the least bit interested in allowing a 2SS.

      Another report !!!.

      "The Government is likely to “do everything in its power” to block a Bill that would ban imports from Israeli settlements in occupied Palestinian territories, sources familiar with the issue say.

      Two sources raised the prospect of the Taoiseach’s office declining to supply a “money message”, a note that is procedurally necessary to allow Private Members’ Bills to proceed through the Oireachtas. The use of such a device to block the Bill would be disputed but the minority Government used it last year to halt a Fianna Fáil Bill on judicial appointments.

      The Control of Economic Activity (Occupied Territories) Bill , which passed its first vote in the Seanad this week, is opposed by the Government but is backed by Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin, Labour and some Independents.

      Campaigners expect the Bill to pass through the Dáil and Seanad as the Government does not have a majority in either house. However, the Bill still has many parliamentary hurdles to clear before becoming law.

      Fine Gael is opposed to the Bill after seeing advice from the Attorney General stating that, as trade is an exclusive competence of the EU, Ireland could not institute a unilateral ban on goods from the settlements. Campaigners in favour of the boycott argue that they have legal advice that says an exemption is available for countries in cases of “public policy”.

      Further complication

      Another complication for Fine Gael is that their Government partner, the Independent Alliance, supports the Bill and may seek a free vote should the Bill reach the Dáil in the autumn.

      Minister of State Finian McGrath of the Independent Alliance reacted strongly to comments from Israeli defence minister Avigdor Lieberman, who said Israel should immediately close its embassy in Dublin in response to the Seanad vote.

      “There are no Israel haters here. You can’t go around shooting 15-year-old unarmed protesters. We support the Palestinians and we support a peace in the Middle East,” Mr McGrath said.

      Taoiseach Leo Varadkar also rejected Mr Lieberman’s comments.

      “I totally disagree with that position. Israel and Ireland have had diplomatic relations for a very long time now. We’ve an embassy in Tel Aviv, they’ve an embassy in Dublin. There are Israeli citizens in Ireland, Irish citizens in Israel, sometimes they need consular assistance ... I think it is important that we continue to have diplomatic relations,” he said.
      Western first

      The result of the Seanad vote received widespread coverage in both Arab and Israeli media this week, with most reports acknowledging that it was the first time a western parliament had voted in favour of such a law.

      Arab media reported that Hamas “hailed” the vote, quoting a spokesman who described it as “an important step towards criminalising the behaviour of the occupation and its policy of illegal settlement-building on Palestinian land”.

      The European Commission said it was watching developments in Ireland regarding the Bill but a spokeswoman would not be drawn on the commission’s view on the Bill before it passes into law. She insisted that trade policy remained a unique prerogative of the commission.

  • 100 days since protests began, Gazans reflect on what the Great March of Return has accomplished so far
    • "Does everyone now have to check a box for every comment?
      Slightly amnoying…" jon s

      Defending your historic homeland is getting more and more tedious .

      Try J Post.No ticking all the boxes there.

    • "Sinai is Egyptian territory. What are the chances of Egypt agreeing to this plan?"jon s

      Egypt will do as it is told if it wants to keep receiving that 1.5 billion dollars to be nice to Israel.

  • Hasbara is dead
    • "Amigo, yes, it strikes me as being disgraceful, I would have expected jail time." jon s

      So , what would be suitable.

      Azaria got 9 months (with time off for good (ha ha ha ha ) behaviour.So maybe the authorities could stretch it to 12 months and take the political blowback.

      One has to make allowances for the nascent state of Israel.It does not have a long history of imprisoning it,s Jewish citizens.

    • "Community service does not mean Jewish. It could be, say, in a hospital or with special need kids."jon s

      Geez , I hope it does. Given this guys record and the slap on the wrist ,sending him into Non Jewish "areas " would be tantamount to giving him a licence to murder again.

      Jon S , you had best get out soon, this stuff seems to be normal to you.

    • "Hamas turned it on, Hamas can turn it off."jon s

      BS jon s.

      Zionist Hasbara was around long before Israel created Hamas.

      BTW , what hasbara can you offer to justify the following.


      Outrageous , eh jon.100 days Community (Jewish no doubt )service and a whopping 2000 sheckel fine.

      What the hell is the only democracy in the ME coming to.He was not a Jew and wasn,t even White.

  • Organizer of the Great March of Return says protests in Gaza 'must go on'
    • "“Amigo”, if they were tolerated at any site which has in interest in making Zionists or Zionism look good, or at least better than it is, they wouldn’t be here."Mooser

      The goal of this site is to show the true face of Zionism so I guess mondonut and co are a good fit.Why even a valuable contribution.

    • " Nobody accused me of being a of being a Zionist creep "mondonut

      Allow me to correct that.

      "– Smartest people in the universe? Nobody has ever accused us Irish Catholics of that."mondonut

      Your racist comment is noted .

      It,s "We Irish" Einstein and Irish is a nationality and Catholicism is a religion.

      mondonut , your,e not the smartest zionist creep around , are you buster.

      What passes for conversation with you buster is for everyone to agree with you.Go visit the J, post or there are lots of other zionist sites for folks like you .

    • Page: 61
    • mondonut, someone accused you of being a zionist creep and a facist .

      Why do you substantiate that accusation .

      " commit the people of Gaza to true peaceful popular resistance "mondonut

      Don,t be coy.There is no resistance that is popular to the zionist entity.

      " Build homes, not tunnels. " mondonut

      WTF with.

      "Convince your Arab bothers to the south of peaceful intent ".

      Haven,t you been listening to the leaders of the rogue entity.They claim all "Arabs" (PALESTINIANS) are Terrorists.

      "Show the Israelis and the world (for the first time) that the Palestinians know how to build a democratic society".mondonut.

      Notwithstanding your racist undertones ,they tried that and if I recall correctly , the People of Gaza democratically elected a government and the rogue entity arrested and jailed more than half of them within one week.

      Give it a rest buster.You wouldn,t want people to think you are not part of the smartest people in the universe ---now would you.

  • 'Let them eat candy' – Israel’s ideological war against incendiary kites from Gaza
  • Israeli lawmaker: 'Jewish race is the greatest human capital, the smartest'
    • I envy zionistas , they have much to learn.

      For their sake , I hope they don,t leave it too long.There will be no second chance.

      On mature reflection , stay as you are.

  • Ireland: A special case of Palestine solidarity
    • "Happy to be corrected on both points by US based MW commentators." 0ssinev

      We have our share of zioapologists , who unsurprisingly are /were in positions of power/influence . Alan Shatter , former Justice/Defense Minister , now retired due to forced resignation and Ireland,s leading zioapologist.Kevin Meyers , Irish Times journalist and shameless supporter of the rogue regime.Tom Carew a Law Professor in Dublin who after years of defending Israel was unseated by his former fellow zios ,from his chairmanship of the Israel/Ireland friendship league after questioning one of Israel,s policies.How sweet is that.

      Not withstanding Israel,s efforts , you are correct, the majority of Irish people support the People of Palestine.That was not the case in the early years of the birth of the rogue entity but Israel through it,s actions has changed peoples minds .

      On your other point, I lived in the US for over a 1/4 of a century and did not find many Irish who had a point of view , or if they did , they kept their heads down.That is changing as many of Ireland,s younger folks who are more educated , have emigrated to the US ,(post celtic tiger) and are not afraid to speak out.

      I actually supported Israel in the mid sixties , before I knew better.

  • Gaza massacre ends American political oath: Israel support is bipartisan
    • "Most of all that night I thought of the incredible courage of the young people of Gaza who died on the day that we were protesting and visiting lobbies. " PW

      Indeed , one can only be humbled by their courage.

      Young Men and Women , running forward and risking being shot and then retreating , only to race back again and face the same risk to their lives.

      Truly an spectacular display of bravery.

      Must have been humbling for the IDF cowards, hiding behind sand hills with their faces covered .

      Most moral army , my donkey.

  • Nikki Haley blames Iran, Hamas for deaths of Palestinian protesters, as UN officials call to investigate Israel
    • Kaisa , the IBA (Israel Broadcasting Authority" is part of the European Broadcasting Authority and that allowed them to be grandfathered in.

      Apparently this was the last year as the IBA is being disbanded shortly.However and unfortunately , as winners of the 2018 contest , they get to stay in one more year.

      Needless to say they will cry antisemitism and whinge and moan if they are excluded after next year.

      Fingers crossed.

    • "Haley is going to beat Biden in the next presidential election. Lol." duhbaker

      That,s if the Trump campaign don,t collude with the Russians to aquire dirt on her.

      But thanks for reassuring us that the Drump is a one term POTUS.

    • "Yes jackdoff," Marnie.

      Marnie , if you wouldn,t mind not equating Jackdaw with one of life,s rather more pleasant experiences.

  • Live Blog: Protests continue as Palestinians begin holding funerals for 61 killed in Gaza
    • "They were not peaceful.
      They were not murdered.
      They were not innocent." mondonut

      Hello , is that Jon S doubling as mondonut.

  • Live Blog: Massacre in Gaza as US and Israel celebrate embassy move to Jerusalem
    • "Ivanka and Jerkoff will never get the blood off their hands." Marnie

      The Teflon couple are enjoying a welcome respite cavorting with zionist criminals as they await an invitation by the Mueller team to come and have a chat about their criminal activities in several countries , some of which are enemies of the US.

      Ivanka can commission her favorite designer to design a glitzy prison outfit for her inevitable incarceration in a US Prison 5 star hotel.

      Jared , will have to settle for regular prison garb .My heart bleeds for them.

  • 'Superpowers will not give us freedom so we will take it with our own hands': scenes from Gaza's final Friday protest at the border
    • "Jews had been persecuted for centuries in majority-gentile countries. " jacko greenstein

      there you go again Jacko.

      I would have thought after a (how long has it been ) refresher course at Hasbara central , you might at least have brought back some new material to keep us enthralled with the breadth of your knowledge .

  • Netanyahu shares 'fake news' about Palestinian citizens
    • When you have nothing left but lies to defend your cause , then your cause is already lost.

      Zionism is in critical condition and fading fast.Would someone turn off the life support system and put it out of it,s misery.

  • Netanyahu's cheap theatrics fall flat, but alas, he has an audience of one -- Trump
    • "It succeeded in singling out the world’s only Iranian state." eljay

      Indeed , but I was not expecting a reply.

    • gee jackduh , Isroyail lies all the time .it lies about it,s 200 plus nukes and it,s sincerity about the so called 2SS, just two examples.

      Iran hasn,t lied (if they did) since 2006 . So you say.

    • Jackduh makes a bid to out do nietanyahoo as the funniest man alive.

      Given some of the comments you make here , you just might be in with a shot.

      Btw , what did Isroyail succeed in doing.

    • I thought I was viewing an SNL skit but couldn,t figure out who was playing the part of the little Boy crying wolf.

      Anyone believe SNL will do a skit on nuttyahoo,s "Much ado about nothing " . It has the potential to create ground breaking viewer numbers or should that be , ground breaking viewer numbness.

  • In Photos: While the world watches Gaza, Israeli forces invade Nabi Saleh
  • Dear Natalie Portman: I too was once a liberal Zionist
    • sharonsj , you state that Israel retook the "Occupied) West Bank and (Occupied )East Jerusalem from Jordan.

      When were these places ever belong to "Israel " and btw where is this Israel and what are it,s borders .Can you supply the readers with a Map.

      You state that Israel should not be shooting unarmed Protesters but just can,t leave that stand alone.

      You just felt the need to contribute to the false claim that all Muslims are bent on killing all Jews .

      You should note that during this last round of killings by Israel,s so called "Most Moral Army ) have murdered some 40 protesters and injured or maimed so 1500 protesters through the use of rubber bullets and live Fire and not one of The Jews has been harmed .I guess those Muslims are not succeeding in their goal of getting rid of the Jews.

      You zionists are such confused people , which is fine but what I cannot tolerate is you propensity for telling lies .

  • The 'Jewish nation' is the central myth of Zionism. It needs to be dismantled.
    • "He is making a scientific discovery of a connection between one’s religious beliefs and that person’s biology."borissimo.

      No he is not .That has already been discovered .

      Take some time off from insulting others comrade and use it to educate yourself.

    • "As far as being god chosen, I am an atheist, I don’t believe in supernatural."Borissimo

      Ok until !!

      "However, I understand that religious Jews believe that Mr. God had asked other nations to serve him, " Borrissimo

      I get it .You don,t believe in the supernatural but you do believe in the supernatural that someone else believes in.So you are not an Atheist.

      "However, I understand that religious Jews believe that Mr. God had asked other nations to serve him, they had refused, and Jews were the last ones to be asked and to accept."Borrissimo

      See even Mr God is an antisemite --making the Jews wait until last.

      "I guess it is an honor, but also a heavy burden."Borrissimo

      Only half of that is true.

  • As Israel becomes a political liability it is time to challenge its enablers
    • "Any soldier who contravenes this code faces severe consequences." Mag

      Let,s see how that is in the real world.

      Azaria , The Medic who murdered an unarmed Palestinian as he lay injured on the ground was severely punished and had to spend 9 months locked behind bars.

      What exactly is considered contravening "the code".

      I know, getting caught on camera.

  • Thousands demonstrate at Gaza border in 'Burn Israeli Flags' Friday
    • "Non Jews were included proportionately in the Happiness Report." Jon S

      Perhaps but given the Illegal squatters in Occupied Palestine were also included , that would serve to skew the results.Imagine how happy they are.

      Free land --much of which is stolen .Interest free loans from the occupying gov.Freedom to shoot, harass , assault and generally oppress the legal inhabitants .Arab frei roads.They live under Israeli civil law while the Palestinians live under military law.

      Yeah , they are doubled up with happiness .

      Btw , I do not believe the non Jews were included , please provide evidence.

      "I wouldn’t be too surprised if it turns out that they’re even happier than the Jewish population."Jon S.

      Well , why not.Non Jews get to live with peaceful , kind and generous Jews .

      OTOH , Jews have to live with dirty Arabs who spend all their time trying to push the poor Jews into the sea.

    • "Why can’t these Zionists get with the program and become depressed about their impending doom? They are even happier than the Irish; amigo – why so sad?"catalan

      Not sure why you think I am sad.

      1, Ireland usually is placed in the top three of the most liked nations on the planet.Israel on the the other hand is placed at the botom three along with Pakistan / Iran and NK.

      2 Ireland is placed 8th on the Global Gender Gap report.(144 countries ).Israel is placed 44th.Zionists should learn how to treat their Mothers,Sisters/Daughters,Grannies ,Aunts,Nieces ,Girlfriends and Wives with equality and dignity.

      That Israelis are 11th on the hapiness report says much more about them than it does about the Irish.

      BTW , were the non Jewish Isrelis included in that report.The result would suggest not.

  • Sen. Warren and 5 congresspeople finally criticize Israel's killings; pressure mounts on Feinstein
    • "I provided a link in direct response ,dont know whether it will pass moderation."hm49

      Ah yes , MW moderation section is awash with Hamas operatives but our brave Sabra soldiers on against such odds.

      The usual excuse provided by the pro Israel crowd when they fail to provide links .

      hm49 , don,t bother posting links if they are from questionable sources such as the Times Of Israel.Not exactly a credible and neutral source.

    • The Two State Solution is RIP.

      Rotting In Pieces.

      The Late not so great 2SS is Dead , gone to it,s happy hunting grounds.deceased,expired,passed on .

      In fact , it was DOA from day 1, as Israel has never intended to or will allow it to come into existence.

  • Netanyahu says Israeli snipers are doing ‘holy work’
    • For those who are not familiar with Jack Green , might I suggest a cursory wander through his archives .

      Jacko is a one line expert on the ME .

      He demands answers but never answers.

      Where have you been jacko.An all expenses paid Hasbara update course.

      Poor Israel , having to rely on the Jack Greens of the world for support.

  • ‘Onion boy’ Mohammed Ayyash dreams of a playground, just like every other kid
    • Jokedaw can speak brilliantly upon any subject , as long as it is a subject he knows nothing about.

      Apologies to Oscar W for plagiarising .

  • Israeli government effort to paint slain journalist Yaser Murtaja as terrorist is failing
    • Even CNN included the video of this murder on their news bulletin.They also included videos of the murder of two other unarmed Palestinian Protesters .

      This was on the European broadcast which is what I follow in Ireland so don,t know if it saw the light of day on CNN USA.

      Anyone know??.

  • 50 NYU student groups endorse BDS, call on university to divest from companies complicit in Israeli occupation
    • gamal , he must have gotten his hands on one of the Irish Passports stolen by the fearsome Israeli intelligence wallers .

      As to The Irish Jewish community bitching and moaning as per usual, it sounds like Alan Shatter , (Ireland,s head Zionist honcho) our ex Justice and Defence Minister has found something to do with his time , since being defrocked for telling lies about a certain member of the Garda who blew the whistle on the goings on among the higher echelons of our law enforcement dept.

      What is amazing is that Shatter held those very senior ministerial positions in "Antisemitic and Jew hating Ireland.

  • How Gaza came to be trapped 'from fence to fence'
    • "I wonder why he is so determined to talk to us, instead of Israelis." Mooser,

      Jokedaw does not enjoy talking to like minded people .No fun in that .He cannot call them Idiots or morons.

      He prefers to be in the company of self hating Jews and antisemitic Jew haters.Gives him a sense of having the Moral high ground and feeds his sense of victim hood.

      He has not responded to my post suggesting he looks like an Idiot so maybe that is the way to get him to end his reign here at MW.

      Like all zios , he can give it , but cannot take it.

    • "Israel unilaterally quit Gaza in 2005. Forced Jewish settlers out of their houses, and left Gaza." jokedaw

      Two problems with this response.

      1, The "Settlers" were ILLEGAL SQUATTERS , and were in their houses plonked down on someone elses land.

      2, Had Israel collaborated with the Palestinians on their unilateral withdrawal , it might have been somewhat more successful.

      Mea culpa , I forgot one item.

      The Illegal squatters were transferred to Occupied West Bank where they squatted down on more stolen Land.

      Jokedaw , stop embarrassing good decent Jewish people with your endless vacuous nonsense.

      It makes you look like ---well , an idiot.

    • "This fact is not ignored, anyone who understands anything at all about the Palestinians knows full well what implementing this supposed “right” would mean – an end to the State of Israel." mondonut

      So what .

      You zionists have proven you are not capable of running a State without committing war crimes and behaving like a normal well adjusted democratic society.

      Time to take it away from you .

  • Slain Palestinian journalist's media org vows to hold Israel accountable 'for this heinous crime'
    • Annie, what I meant to say , is she is the Cheerleader but not the chairperson.

    • Meanwhile , the UNSC is meeting to address the Chemical weapons attack on Syrian civilians and rightly so .

      The proceedings are being led by Madame , new sheriff in town --the right dishonourable Nikki Haley who gave the Thumbs down on 2 occasions to approve an investigation into the present slayings of unarmed , peaceful protesters in Gaza.

      She whines incessantly about Russia vetoing action against Syria/Iran/Russia --who are correctly demanding the right to be presented with proof of their involvement.

      To be clear , I am no fan of Russia or Syria,s leader or Iran for that matter , but let,s have some fair play before assigning guilt until unassailable proof has been produced.We have been this route before with the "Weapons of mass distraction " scam.

      As for Haley , she is one puke inducing hyprocite .

  • Video shows Israeli interrogators attempting to coerce confession from Ahed Tamimi
    • Zionism and the most moral on display for all to see.

      What was that about "Light unto the nations".It runs on a 1 watt bulb.

      I am surprised the zionist entity gave a copy of the video to her parents or was it leaked out , somehow.

  • Transcript of Ahed Tamimi interrogation by Israeli military
    • "In fact they really deserve some sort of Zio Medal of Honour for their brave actions." 0ssinev

      How about the "Lehi Ribbon of Honour".

      "Lehi (Hebrew pronunciation: [ˈleχi]; Hebrew: לח"י – לוחמי חרות ישראל‎ Lohamei Herut Israel – Lehi, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel – Lehi"), often known pejoratively as the Stern Gang,[9][10][11][12] was a Zionist paramilitary organization founded by Avraham ("Yair") Stern in Mandatory Palestine.[13][14] Its avowed aim was to evict the British authorities from Palestine by resort to force, allowing unrestricted immigration of Jews and the formation of a Jewish state, a "new totalitarian Hebrew republic".[15] It was initially called the National Military Organization in Israel,[1] upon being founded in August 1940, but was renamed Lehi one month later.[16] According to Jean E. Rosenfeld, the group admitted to having used terrorist attacks.[17][18]"

      Note the title of the new Israel!!.

      "A New Totalitarian Hebrew Republic".

      Looks as if the Lehi terrorists got their wish.Who says Terrorism doesn,t work.

  • The 'New York Times' stops being a stenographer for the Israeli army (today anyway)
  • Jews and trauma
    • "It’s strange, this obsession with elevating the Holocaust above all other crimes throughout history, as though there’s some sort of prize for Bestest Genocide Ever!" eljay

      There is , it is called The Jewish Historic Homeland , or more ,correctly, "Occupied Palestine ".

  • Thousands demand the right to return as smoke envelops Gaza on a new 'bloody Friday'
    • "How can your cult deconstruct the Jew and invent the Palestinian at the same time?" jokedaw

      Your cult ---Zionism has already deconstructed Judaism and with it , the Jew.

      Our help is not needed.

      Keep up the good work jokedaw.

      Almost forgot jokedaw , any luck on finding that map.

    • "Sovereign states have an unassailable right to define their own immigration policies, " mondonut

      Sovereign States have defined Borders.As Israel does not have a map , how can it be sovereign.

      Do you have a map you can share with the folks here.We are all anxious to see what territory Israel is sovereign over.

      I,ll wait.

    • No problem soon as you can explain to us how a bunch of european Jews whose great.great.great.great.great.great.great.great grandfather might have been Jewish can have a right of return or make aliyah to a place they have never been.

      Put a sock in it are an embarassment to decent clear thinking Jewish.

  • Young Jews protest Reform leadership's silence over Passover massacre
    • Indeed Misterioso , they are desperate.Here is one example .

      "AN ISRAELI MINISTER has called on AIB to close the Irish accounts of Palestinian protest groups.

      The Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign (IPSC) said it was shocked to learn that Israel’s Minister for Strategic Affairs, Gilad Erdan, directly appealed to AIB to close the Irish accounts of those who are lobbying to boycott Israeli goods."

      Last year they managed to convince our other large Bank, "B of I " (Bank Of Ireland) to close these accounts but given that Our present Gov supports the right of BDS to boycott Israel , it might prove somewhat more difficult this time around.

      The day the scourge of Zionism is put to the sword will be good day for mankind.The sooner the better.

  • 'NY Times' bias about Israel's massacre in Gaza just won't go away
    • "An English speaker’s way of speaking absolutely classifies him, the moment he talks he makes some other English speaker despise him." Mooser

      When a Yorkshire man speaks , other English speakers just shake their heads and move along .

      Here is one example!!.

      "8. ‘Ear all, see all, say nowt. Eat all, sup all, pay nowt. And if ever thou does owt fer nowt – allus do it fer thissen

      Yes, that is English. Sort of. This is the Yorkshireman’s motto and translates as follows:

      “Hear all, see all, say nothing. Eat all, drink all, pay nothing. And if you ever do anything for nothing—always do it for yourself.”

      More examples at ,

  • Philadelphians to Philly Orchestra: Cancel your trip to Israel
    • "Gee, the least “Jon s” could do is go back to the “We got Beersheba fair and square by conquest in the ’48 war” line." Mooser

      Jon S is aware of the "Inadmissibility of Territories Gained through war " line so it,s better to stick to the "Land was uninhabited " line.That also dovetails nicely with the ,"There are no Palestinians" so how could there have been a war.

      The Land was just sitting there and had gone unnoticed until Jon ,s ,s real estate agent showed up and staked a claim.

      The rest was easy.

    • "Sorry amigo, there’s no such Palestinian family.
      The place we live was previously uninhabited. "Jon S

      ffs ,Jon S , someone owned that land before you zionists expelled (ethnically cleansed )the legitimate owners.

      In my country , receiving (includes purchasing ) stolen goods is a crime.You re a co conspirator in said crime.

      Your just lucky you live in a lawless nation/society and get away with it.

      You should be ashamed to even admit you live on someone else,s land but you are not . What does that say about your moral compass.

    • " Mostly designed and directed by the Zionists, is that the idea?" Echi

      Jon S claims he is not a Zionist , although you would think otherwise , judging by his interactions with Annie up thread , see April; 18th 2.47 pm.and a couple of posts above that.

      Let,s face it , Zionists like Jon S would out themselves the first time they put forward an idea.

      Clearly the odd spy might infiltrate but you can,t carry out extreme vetting (to use a Trump line) on everyone. You can tell the serious BDS,r v a fake.

      Your concerns are unfounded.

    • "And turn off that opera. If “Dabakr” regains consciousness during the Masadadammerung, he might have a seizure."Mooser

      Might I entreat you to withdraw that request.Unless of course . you would miss duhbaker,s presence here .Or maybe you understand he has nowhere else to post his comments.

      You are far too kind and thoughtful Mooser . You would have made a first rate. Zionist.

    • "My home is quite legal and we’re the original,legitimate, owners." Jon S

      You keep telling yourself that Jon S.However , we both know there is a Palestinian Family somewhere who would claim otherwise.

      What amazes me , is how you manage to look in the mirror.

    • "So why boycott B&J and not Nestle, which also sells ice cream in the sttlements? and also Coke and Pepsi, and Google, Microsoft and Intel, all major car makers and airlines, and so on?" Jon S

      Everything all in the fullness of time.

      BTW , if you are unhappy with the way BDS is run , why not join (Jews are allowed ) and have a voice.

      I hope you are keeping your illegal squat up to scratch for your eventual successor.Hell , maybe it will be the Original Legitimate owner.

    • Did you have any comments on your brave most moral heroes shooting unarmed Peaceful protesters in Not Israel while your fellow squatters drink wine and enjoy the show.

      All that is troubling you is Ben and Jerry,s being boycotted.

      Some country, some people , some mess.

    • "The bds campaign at its stupidest." Jon S

      "The decision to call for a boycott

      VTJP’s thinking on the necessity for a boycott reached a tipping point during Israel’s military assault against Gaza in the summer of 2014. 2,200 Palestinians were killed and more than 11,000 wounded. The casualties were overwhelmingly civilians.

      Because Gaza’s morgues could not handle the horrific carnage, bodies of dead children and babies had to be stacked temporarily in ice cream freezers prior to burial.

      While this massacre of innocents was being carried out, Ben & Jerry’s “peace & love” ice cream was passing through Israeli checkpoints, being transported on Jewish-only roads, and being sold to supermarkets and for catered events in Jewish-only settlements."

      As you are an illegal squatter , you wouldn,t understand.

  • B'Tselem calls on Israeli soldiers to defy shooting orders, lest they commit war crimes
    • The only problem is that the soldiers know there will be no price to pay.They know they are going to pay a higher price for refusing to shoot versus obeying the order which will lead to Hero status and a promotion .Faced with these choices , even a soldier who is opposed to carrying out illegal orders will most likely take the road with least resistance .

      Let,s face it , The Most Moral is already replete with War Criminals .Committing war crimes is like eating lunch to these cowards.

  • Pelosi and 9 Dems had 'excellent meeting' with Netanyahu even as Israel sent 'dozens of snipers' to Gaza
    • yeahbut , yeahbut , where is the map.

      We gotta have a map before we believe what you claim to be facts.

      Give us a map or quit the bs.

      BTW , wtf is Judea Samaria.Is that on your Map of Israel.

    • Dimaduck , where is the map.If all is agreed by all --then where is the Map.

      Allow me to let you in on a secret .

      Israel does not declare it,s borders because they have not finished creating the Greater Israel.

      But you knew that --didn,t you.

    • 0ssinev , I am sure by now you are aware of the own goal these zio freaks scored in referring to the visit JC made with some "Left wing Jews " for a Seder celebration.Apparently , he met with a group of "Bad Jews " .I don,t have the link to hand but it is reported in the Gaurdian/Haaretz/The Independent.

      It is notable that 2 Labour Pols --Brooks and Smith who are not Jewish were in on this antisimetic trope of deciding who is a good Jew and who is a Bad Jew.

      Some interesting blowback .Wonder if BBC will address it.

    • Dimaduck , I asked for a map not "Interpretations " of un named individuals.

      A map dimaduck.

      Can,t you find a map.

      Surely Israel has a map of it,s Sovereign territory. Quotes from Wikipedia won,t work in a court of law.

    • Until you are asked to provide a Map of said International Border.

      Take all the time you need dumaduck.

  • Video appears to show Israeli shot ending Palestinian footballer's career as he stands with selfie stick
    • Zionist Jewish sportsmen have many methods of neutralising their opposition.

      Here is one method.


      The International Basketball Federation (FIBA) has directed its Middle East commission to implement fifteen new rule changes from March 1. Regarding the use of a smaller ball for midget basketball, the commision for midget basketball events will consider the matter in April before the Central Board takes a final decision, according to a statement from Michael Lebanon, FIBA secretary general. The statement said rule changes proposed by the Technical Commission in December 2005 were accepted by FIBA Central Board.

      Palestinian basketball player at the Abu Amar sport hall in Bethlehem. (MAANnews/Magnus Johansson)
      Following are the rule changes:

      Rule 1: Israelis have the right to play on both sides of the court, whereas Palestinians can only play on their own side.

      Rule 2: For security reasons Palestinians do not have the right to pass the ball between players, the ball could hit an Israeli player.

      Rule 3: There will be no basket on the Israeli side.

      Rule 4: Israel is allowed to shoot at any time even during time-outs.

      Rule 5: Palestinians are not allowed to have supporters. Only Israelis should be supported.

      Rule 6: Israel selects the sports press writers and what the they reports:

      Rule 7: Israel encourages Palestinians to shoot into the Palestinian basket. Players who refuse will be nominated as terrorists and will not be allowed to play.

      Rule 8: Palestinian players are allowed to leave the field, but cannot return. One exception: A Palestinian can be replaced by an Israeli.

      Rule 9: Israel selects and instructs the referees, and tells them when to look away.

      Rule 10: Israel selects the captain of the Palestinian team.

      Rule 11: Israeli faults and Palestinian good plays will not be shown on TV.

      Rule 12: Israel takes the money which sponsors pay to Palestinians clubs.

      Rule 13: Only Israeli players get refreshments.

      Rule 14: Palestinians are required to play, when and where designated by Israel.

      Rule 15: Rules only apply to Palestinians, Israelis may change the rules during the game and are not required to advise the Palestinians of the changes.

      So inventive , are these ubermenschen.

  • Killing Palestinian protesters turns into a PR debacle for Israel
    • "@amigo, check out the maps that the ‘Palestinians’ produce which don’t show Israel at all."mayhem.

      I asked you to provide a map of the Israeli "Sovereign " territory you claim the IOF (most moral killers) are defending from marauding hordes of Arabs.

      I take it from your response , you could not find such a map.

      "With their bloody-minded menace they are obsessed with annihilating Israel." mayhem.

      Wrong again mayhem. The folks at Hamas central agreed to recognise Israel on the basis of 67 borders , with land swaps .

      Do you ever get anything factual .

      Imagine the Historic Homeland of the Jewish People-- sans frontiere.Better get your topographers busy creating a map.It,s not rocket science .

    • "Israel doesn’t need to excuse the simple fact that it has the obligation to protect the country’s sovereignty and its citizens." mayhem

      Perhaps you can provide us all with a map that shows the borders delineating Israel,s sovereignty.

      Otherwise your post is somewhat vacuous .

    • "I think that the Israelis did not handle that well. What they could do next time is wait for the fence to be breached" catalan.

      Hey general catalan , the Gaza border with Israel (so called ) is 60 miles long .Israel does not have enough heroes to defend that border and remember there is a border between Lebanon and the Jordan and the west bank so best of luck stopping 500,000 plus Palestinians pouring into zioland at points all along Israel,s so called borders.

      Israel,s most Moral will turn tail and run as fast as they can right to the nearest Sea or airport , dropping their weapons and trampling over each other.

      Crossing into Lebanon is not an option or Jordan and no , Syria is probably off limits.Maybe their good friends in Egypt might take them in , but I wouldn,t guarantee a red carpet treatment there either.

      Yup a fitting end to the zionist project just seventy years after it started .Isn,t that about the same period the last so called Jewish empire lasted.

    • "Then once the Hamas guys come into Israeli territory the IDF can legitimately open fire; probably there will be a lot more victims and no claim can be made about peaceful protesting." catalan

      Dopey , the most moral already used that excuse .

      Don,t you read any of the articles before you go ahead and show us what a knuckle head you are.

      BTW , I thought you just told us a few days ago , you never tell others what they should do.

      "Unlike you I don’t have any desire to tell others what to do."catalan

    • OT but newsworthy.

      CNN --Blitzer bemoans the decision by Sinclair to hand Promos to local station anchors (170 ) to read out condemning "Fake News" and praising Donald Trump,s policies.

      He said that it is troubling to witness Anchors being forced to read out scripts they do not agree with to save their jobs.

      Hello Wolfy boy--is that not what you do to please your Zionist bosses.

  • A brief, unhappy history of Israeli massacres
    • "I just think that if Phil Weiss made a list of massacres, without even mentioning massacres in which Jews and Israelis were the victims – it should be pointed out." jon s

      Sure Jon S , like they do over at J,Post and The Times of Israel and alegemeiner et al.

      But lets play your game and start on a one for one basis until one side runs out of massacres.Guess who is going to be check mated first.

  • 'We will not wait 70 years more': scenes from Gaza's March of Return
    • "Where is there an example in the world of a defeated antagonist being granted the entitlement to bring back its people to land lost in internecine conflict?"mayhem

      Ireland /France/Belgium /India/ Poland/ etc etc etc.

      Just to remind you mayhem !!!.

      "The Inadmissibility of Territories Gained through War.".

  • 'NY Times' covers up Israel's killing of nonviolent protesters along the Gaza border
    • "I don’t feel sadder when a Jew gets killed vs, say a Mexican catholic."catalan

      Why not any Mexican.Surely there are Mexicans who are not Catholics.

      Why not a Jew , of Mexican Nationality.Jewish is just a member of a religious group as is Catholic.

      Btw, why do you type Jew with a capital letter and Catholic with a lowercase.They are Both religions.

  • Jeremy Corbyn and ’anti-Semitism’ - making sense of the hysteria
    • Corbyn is in trouble --again.

      Apparently he attended a seder with a "Left Wing "Jewish group and they dissed Israel.

      "Jeremy Corbyn has defended his decision to attend a Passover dinner organised by the left-wing Jewish group Jewdas, which has previously dismissed allegations of antisemitism in the Labour Party as “faux-outrage greased with hypocrisy and opportunism”.

      So Jeremy has been warned --join the conservative party and embrace (Far) Right wing Jewish groups or face exile from the Labour Party.

      These Israel firsters are serious when they threaten to Take Down senior British Ministers or leaders when said leaders do not do Israel,s bidding or Yahweh forbid , associate with left wing Jewish groups.

    • "Teresa May addressed the UN last September , few attended – a measure of that downgrading of UK importance" miriam 6

      It doesn,t matter if the UK leaves the EU or not .It will still have a vote on the Sec Council.Trust you to fail to see the facts .

      This story is about Jeremy Corbyn,s support for the Palestinians and his intention to recognise The State of Palestine which is why the zionist Israel firsters (UK traitors ) are so desperate to block his election.Best of luck with that me old dearie.

      Speaking of Englands downgrade , how about that embarrassing defeat by Ireland at Twickenham --remember those "scummy Irish " as referred to by the English coach .

  • Older Jews are officially terrified of young Jews' views of Israel
    • falcon 170,

      You have made 5 comments in all on MW.

      4 on March 28th 2018 and the 5th on Dec 10th 2015 --three years ago!!.


      "Which international law states that Jews can't buy land in the West Bank?" falcon 170.

      One can see why you disappeared for 3 years judging by the responses you received for that idiotic post.

      Can we assume you will disappear for 12 years this time.

      " I can assure you, Israel doesn’t need the US’s permission to kick the shit out of Iran." falcon 170

      I sure hope they do . I love watching the Most Most moral heroes hightailing it out of harms way with their sabra tails between their legs .Is that sweat we can see around the crotch areas .

      Remember Falcon 170 , it will be the revolutionary Guard your brave boys will be fighting -not Palestinians armed with stones.

      You zionist warhawks sure know how to make fools of yourselves.

    • "Why would Israelis give a rats ass what young Jews in America think? " falcon170

      It is always advisable to read the article before responding.

    • Why not have all Israeli Jews convert to Catholicism and change the Law of return to grant Citizenship to all Catholics in the diaspora.There are some 1.5 billion of them.Israel will no longer need to be concerned about being surrounded by 1.3 billion Muslims who want to throw all Jews into the sea .

  • The problem with Passover
    • 0ssinev , thanks for the link.

      Some list.Certainly puts the whole sordid affair in perspective.

    • 0ssinev, it is worse than it ever was.This witch hunt is given way too much exposure on BBC and ITV. CNN is in on the act .Theresa May had to include it during PM,S question,s a few days ago even though it was not the topic under discussion.

      Victoria Derbyshire got in on it.

      Will no one rid us of this scourge.

  • Trump appointed Bolton because Republicans desperately need Adelson's money
    • I wonder how many US citizens recall the hundreds of Body Bags being covertly shipped back into various US airports from Iraq --no camera allowed or media.

      Some 4500 if I am correct.Most of the bodies were those of the sons and daughters of Working class Americans--in other words --a large percentage of Trumps base.

      Will they tolerate the addition of the main architect ,(Bolton) of the war in Iraq.Will they recall that their man in the WH ran on keeping the US out of destructive wars or will they slovenly cave in and let the war hawks send their children to their deaths .

      A war with Iran would make Iraq look like a street corner skirmish.

  • Video: Israeli police destroy Palestinian tombstones in Jerusalem cemetery
    • "The principle seems to be that if an Israeli does it its indicative of a deranged society and if a Palestinian does it its either justified or irrelevant." Jon 66

      Israel is a sick society.
      Why else would it be rated the 3rd most hated society on the planet over the last decade.

      The reason these so called officers , carried out this crime in the open is that they are aware that the society they represent would applaud their actions.

      Look at the leaders Israeli society elects.

      You don,t really want to venture into making comparisons between a people who rob/steal/murder/oppress / expel/abuse minors/carry out night raids/spray skunk juice , etc etc and the actions of their victims.

      Your Israeli society is terminally ill.

    • Jon 66,

      What about Terry.

  • Clashing with the Jewish state: ultra-Orthodox Israelis who reject Zionism
    • Dabakr has been on a 30 day Hasbara refresher course.
      Hasbara central has decided to challenge it,s field operatives by requiring them to start at the back of the Hasbara Manual and work towards the front.

      A change in routine may reduce the muttering.

  • Ahed Tamimi, 17, to serve 8 months in prison for slapping soldier in occupied village
    • I wonder if she will get credit for time served and good behaviour.

      Au contraire , poor little victimised Israel will endeavour ---sorry --come up with fake charges of disruptive behaviour or acts of incitement to violence and refusal to carry out instructions , with the goal of prolonging her incareration.

      Israel is truly a corrupt and ugly society hell bent on self destruction.

      Don,t let us get in your way "Oh Yisrael ".

  • In the occupation, slapping a soldier is worse than killing a Palestinian
    • Old Geezer ,The ironic part is that this murderer most likely feels hard done by.

      Imagine , one of the world,s most moral having to be locked away for 9 months for killing a Palestinian.

      What the hell has the Historic Homeland come to.

      BTW , don,t see any comments from the usual suspects , some of whom claim to be "Leftists" ,who take a side ,seeking peace .

  • Abbas calls US Ambassador to Israel a 'son of a bitch,' ambassador accuses Abbas of antisemitism
    • How does this stack up to be Antisemitic.

      If someone called a Catholic male a Sonofabitch , would that be Anticatholic.

      In any event , it would have been far better to call him a "thieving , illegal squatter and participant in Apartheid and oppression.

  • Israeli courts denies Ahed Tamimi’s request for public trial
    • " citing historical “benefit” of closed-door trials for minors."

      Yeah , a swift low cost route to prison.

      The real benefit is received by the Prosecutors who manage to rack up a 99.85 conviction rate when the trials are closed.It,s pretty hard to beat a confession out of a child in an open court and get away with it.

  • Schumer says he opposed the Iran deal because of 'threat to Israel'
    • “That will help the young people to understand what Israel is up against. ”Schumer

      They already know .

      They are up against a gang of oppressive, colonialist land thieving , war criminal , supremacist purveyors of lies and deceipt and supporters of Apartheid.

      You need to change your approach Schumer.What you have been doing for decades hasn,t worked.Better try something else or the numbers of young Jews will grow exponentially and throw your Israel firster posterior out of office. Maybe you should prove your undying love for Israel and get on a plane and make aliyah.

      There are lots of Israel firsters there to greet you.

  • 'I found a system of segregated roads' -- Anna Baltzer's path to activism
    • Jon S , you omitted this part of the report ????.

      "The report found Israel is in the list of the world's least accepting countries alongside Egypt, Iraq and Jordan in the Middle East. "

      BTW , why the reference to the US ranking.Do you enjoy watching the demise of the land of your birth which provided you with an education and the funds to set yourself up on someone elses property in Occupied Palestine , plummet in the happiness ratings.

      My such gratitude and so very zionist .

    • Just think Jon S, when The Greater Israel is realised and all those pesky Palestinians have been cleansed from the Jewish Historic Homeland , Israel will be in the number one position on the Happiness list.

      I wonder if Israeli Arabs (Palestinians) were asked how happy they are.

  • 'Someone is paying Trump to do it' -- Pompeo elevation shows neoconservative lock on foreign policy
    • The return of the Neocons , Part 2.

      Recall how happy we all were when Obama was elected .Observers extolled the virtues of the death of Neoconservatism.

      Sorry to say but they are back and this time it is even worse as POTUS is even more dumb than Dubya ,who was not the playboy of the western world and champion p---y grabber unlike the present occupant of the WH who is a prime target for blackmail.Looks like the Neo cons have the donald by his cojones and are squeezing him until he succumbs to their demands.

      Look for some more "Shock and Awe" and "Slam Dunks" .

      On the bright side , the USA may find it a tad more difficult to put together a coalition of the willing , given that most of them will not take too kindly to the unravelling of the Iran deal to whiich they invested so much effort and time.

      Mabe Israel will send their most moral heroes to lend a hand , given they are the International cheerleaders for this venture and it is for their benefit.

  • There are only two kinds of Jews, Schumers and Feinsteins
    • "1948 Palestine Post building bombed by Arab terrorists. First car bombing ever!"jack-duh

      marc b corrected you and gave you evidence that it was Jewish Terrorists who carried out the first car bombing.

      So yes you are wrong.

      Try to keep up with the conversation and stop changing the subject.It only makes you look more dumb then you already are.

    • "Rob. I think hundreds of thousands of Jews already live in Judea and Samaria." jackduh

      Correction jack-duh.

      1, There is no Judea and Samaria.It is known as "OCCUPIED PALESTINE" and considered so by every nation on this planet , except of course by the lillte rogue pip squeak tin pot entity , so called israel.

      2, Your hundreds of thousands of Jews are illegal squatter thieves and are all in violation of the 4th GC article 14 which makes them war criminals.

      Your welcome.

  • Rabbi Cardozo: outlawing circumcision would 'end the state of Israel'
    • "You profile says you are “a husband, father, and surgeon“.Mooser to Jon 66

      That,s a mistype.It should read Sturgeon .Here is the reason for his interest in Hadrians wall.

      "Nicola Sturgeon announces plans to rebuild Hadrian’s Wall, and England is going to pay for it" .

      "Shortly after Theresa May said she would block any plans for another independence referendum, Sturgeon said she would go right ahead and build a wall to keep out the meddling English.

      “We never get the best of them coming across the border. No, it’s just the Tories and the other canvassing politicians – there are some good ones, too, I assume,” she told reporters.

      “That’s why I’m going to build a wall, a great wall. It’s going to be so great.

      “And best of all, England is going to pay for it. Yes, they are. They might say they’re not, but they will be. Yes they will.”

      Sturgeon’s speech has been welcomed by Scottish Nationalists who are keen to believe literally anything they’re told as long as it contains an anti-English sentiment

    • "Now do you really think that I would even contemplate , for one second, to deliberately do something which could harm them?"Jon S

      Oscar Wilde had you in mind when he penned the following.

      "Most people die of a sort of creeping common sense, and discover when it is too late that the only things one never regrets are one's mistakes."

    • "The Mondoweiss fans/BDSholes and their ilk aren’t worth the time and effort to try to convince of anything. " s grover

      Gee , does this mean we will be deprived of your company.

      Promise not to just take off without saying goodbye.

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