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  • Ocasio-Cortez hedges criticisms of Israel-- 'I may not use the right words'
    • Karnak,

      It’s not too late for her though

      Personally for Ms Cortez, of course it's not too late; she presumably is full of the best intentions, unlike the warmongering old "middle class" champion mountebank Sanders.

      But is sure is way too late for Ms Cortez' candidacy, the Nth in a long line of fake challengers running under the Democrat Party banner. Just talking about the relatively recent past, of the so-called left characters, who all successfully rallied the boobies back to the voting booth, how many managed to do anything at all that went even a little against the will of the Owners of the Country?
      As to whose who got elected and were carrying hope-and-change, lemme see, what did they do?

      You just don't go under the banner of the worst enemy of the people and worst war machine if you intend to fight against it. Duh. That simple. Of course it's way too late.

      But why does it matter what she says on her website? ... When people campaign on peace they tend to win, and that fact tends to be erased, either by silence or by the elected official turning toward war after the election. When someone wins a primary campaigning for peace, others need to learn of it. And when they win a general election campaigning for peace, others need to learn of it. This is how you get more candidates to support peace.

      The notion that someone will secretly plan to work for peace while going silent or pretending to favor war until they are elected has very few examples to support it and thousands going against it
      A candidate who surrounds himself or herself with people who delete peace from a website is a candidate hearing bad advice, and a future official likely to go on hearing bad advice."

  • 100 days since protests began, Gazans reflect on what the Great March of Return has accomplished so far
    • We’ve tried war, let’s try peace.

      That applies to you guys.
      Try preaching that to people like Johnny S.

      The Palestinians haven't tried war yet.

  • On Rabbi Andy Bachman’s public congratulations to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    • Ms Robbins,

      There's even less linear logic in that last reply about strawmen.

      You write yourself that her "independence" is no different than that of the Sanders mountebank's:

      sanders, whatever he's become, was never part of the dem party "machine". for the most part, he ran an independent campaign

      an "independent" campaign to bring the independent vote to the main machine of US imperialism and war.
      It had a huge success doing just that, so why not a repeat?
      I do second your congratulations to the DSA for a 90/10 BDS vote (while suspecting that good part of that is "libZ".) But these people deserve the severest censure for thinking [pretending to] that after several generations of sheepdog fakes (and Don Quijinich), they'll be the first to turn around the main US imperialist political machine, belonging to the Owners of the Country, and make it act against the owners' class interest.

      i don't know her views on venuzuela and am not into the russia thing at all.

      both highly relevant

  • First they came for Alan Dershowitz
    • Tuyzentfloot,

      Well, it means a returning reader already has a cookie directing him to the language first chosen,

      That is unimportant. I am saying it for the third time: There is no mention anywhere on the Spanish page of the foreign policy statement. At least as of this morning. And to me that is ominous., because that's the heart of the story.

      Also, one doesn't have to eat sh|t every single day to know it's the same serving as yesterday, cooked better. I am not saying this Nth avatar isn't sincere, intelligent, all those beautiful things. But she is out collecting votes for the main administrative organ of US imperialism and war of aggression. Not gonna discuss that further, just hope she keeps her position on Palestine and commits it to writing.

  • Miriam Adelson urges young American Jews to 'have more Jewish babies' and 'lobby governments' for Israel
    • Thanks for the good news, Citizen. That's the first reliable sign there won't be war there.

  • Jewish allies must understand that solidarity entails a loss of privilege

      "The evidence for a greater diversity of Jewish origins, outside the Levant, is thus quite strong. Yet perhaps even more significant are the efforts to construct a loyal ‘racial science’, to bolster the Zionist project and its ‘right to return’ regime. This effort privileges Jews and, without even any pretence at science, excludes Palestinian Arabs. The latter are often simply dismissed as uncivilised people without culture or law. It is a terrible irony that Jewish people, who suffered so much from racial theorising and genocidal practice in Europe, should create their own racial myths to justify the Zionist colonial project.

      ‘Racial science’ has come to obsess Zionists, as it did the persecutors of the Jews in Nazi Germany. A special people with special rights and a historical mission, was always a manufactured device. Racial ‘science’ was turned to racist purpose, to reject people outside the special class. That is why we see striking similarities between the essentialist racism of Nazi ideologist Julius Streicher and Zionist historian Benzion Netanyahu. They similarly set up superior and inferior peoples, demonising their ‘racial’ enemies. This laid a common foundation for ethnic cleansing and genocidal practice (see Table One).

      Julius Streicher (1885-1946). Nazi ideologist, executed for spreading hatred of the Jewish people.
      "As a child, a first suspicion came into my life that the essence of the Jew was a peculiar one… Who were the money lenders? They were those who were driven out of the temple by Christ himself… [they] never worked but live on fraud… The God of the Jews is… the God of hatred."
      Benzion Netanyahu (1910). Zionist historian, father of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
      "He has no respect for any law… in the desert he can do as he pleases. The tendency toward conflict is the essence of the Arab. He is an enemy by essence… It doesn't matter what kind of resistance… what price he will pay. His existence is one of perpetual war."

  • UNRWA does not perpetuate the conflict, the conflict perpetuates UNRWA
    • You, Johnny, are an invader from the US of A, with immediate ancestry totally unrelated to Palestine, who entered and is squatting illegally conquered land quite illegally, living on property stolen by the gun and committing, personally, war crimes and crimes against humanity, including under uniform.

      What part of that is unclear?
      Also, if you didn't get that the first time you're not equipped to ever get it.

  • 'This is apartheid, there is no better word for it': Calls for boycott growing among mainstream Israelis
    • Annie

      but you bring up a point about culture w/this ‘sea and sun’ comment that more accurately reflects my ideas about culture in general which is that it doesn’t imply everyone has to be on board with something, or share it culturally, to have it be part of a culture

      As everything in the world where social phenomena, i.e. more than one unit, are being discussed, I don't believe that one can have a requirement that everyone has to be on board. It's obviously a question of statistical distribution. With or without the more-or-less "science" of anthropological description or (whaa) polling, everyone gets a feel of the statistics --right or wrong.

      The other part to this is that you can't define it as either sun and strand vs. genocidal invader consciousness, or apple pie + baseball vs war of aggression. As a majority culture, it may well be, say, sun+strand+absence of consciousness of being on other people's land and committing genocide. As for this absence of consciousness I won't buy it even for used toilet paper. Consciousness of their being on other people's land is absolutely pervasive, as is the general approval of racist behavior. I was there only once in the immmediate post-1967 (not breaking the boycott) but that was more than enough to witness the culture which all polls and reporting tell us has gotten much worse.
      Danaa's description of extra-Palestine Zionist Kultur is very good but I see no reason to consider it separate from the rest of the Zionists'. Also, by the statistics that govern all our lives, it is, for all practical purposes, "Jewish" culture itself.

  • Democrats are losing their fear of AIPAC and Haim Saban
  • Mal Hyman's outspokenness on Gaza massacre is a sign of things to come in Democratic races
    • Mist,

      Incredible but true: the Palestinian resistance needs every ally, even the liberals.

      One reason for this is of course the current international wave of fascism and war of aggression, announcing another glacial (or infernal) period like the 30s and some. The other is the horrible success of US/Zionists+PLO Quislings in murdering the organized resistance, down to a handful of people who have to stay holed up just to live on --a success halfway to completed genocide. And of course "the world" will let Azrael do it unless the US is suddenly and improbably taken out, any doubts on that account?

      So yes, that's almost all there is around these days: liberal quasi-Zios and disgruntled ex-Zios with solid moral principles. We got to make do.

  • Don't expect Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris to be critical of Israel
    • One simply must love Anglo-Zionese.

      Admire how elegantly Reb Fredman writes:

      The Jewish zionist support for a strong US defense budget created a political alliance between pentagon budget hawks and zionism

      To say that the obedient, corrupt politician shits bought with our own money not only feed and protect and arm the Zionist abomination in Palestine and give it thousands of soldiers, too; they make us pay our last cent to become war criminals all, using our taxes and our kids to wage endless wars of aggression on their behalf.

      The cherry on this Zio cake is that they also make fun of us.

  • Democratic leaders grow fearful that Israel will divide the party
    • Cockburn also said she was seeking J Street’s endorsement. And she’s been citing an Israeli’s defense of her book, on twitter. The Times of Israel helped her out [...]

      And that Zio is what you are proposing as an instance of "division" in the Democrat War Party, along with a bunch of officially "Labour"-supported Zionists like Schakovsky et al.?

      The only "division" here is among Demolicans and Repucrats, and that doesn't mean jackshit about continued imperial support to Zionism.


  • 'Disappearing Palestine' maps must spotlight Jaffa
    • Kay

      It is happening in the US congress right now, where Republicans are pretending Trump is right when he lies

      and Democrats applaud and support Trump's every act of war and aggression --especially in Palestine.

      What's the definition of a shameless propaganda shill ?

  • Donald Trump is a hero to Jewish Israelis
    • Shenfield,

      For how many generations do ‘invader offspring’ remain invaders? Isn’t this a sort of racism?

      I don't have all the answers, of course, but a student of history like you readily gets that the American answer is Until Ye Sassenach Have Completed Ye Genocide Of Ye Owners Of Ye Country. Ask Sitting Bull and all the dispatched souls of the potential claimants. Why else do you think Zionists are committing genocide?

      As for "racism", no. It is not, even though it is somehow part of the people's characteristics at birth. What Anglosaxons won't let nestle in their heads is the simple notion that not all countries, in fact only a small minority, base citizenship on jus soli. Proving right to it by descent or some other property is necessary for most countries. And a Good Thing it is, too, because the automatic application of citizenship by only place of birth is enough to defeat humanitarian and War Law, especially GC, much more effectively than any war of aggression in the case of hostile colonial settlements anywhere.

      Refusing to turn over sovereignty to a hostile group intent on takeover (by, among other things, compulsorily granting them citizenship) is not refusing refuge to people who need it: refugees are essentially defined as guests who agree to conform to your own laws and regulations, not overturn them and take away your country.

      And as most Palestinians no longer demand the expulsion of ‘invader offspring’ — understanding the harm that such a demand does to their cause...

      Until you come with a properly performed plebiscite of all Palestinians (justifying usual domicile in Ottoman Palestine at the time of hostile colonial intent declaration by the Basle Zionist Congress in 1897), i.e. in the total absence of military occupation or any other form of duress, allow me a whinny. In fact, that might be called channeling the Palestinian Pétains gallow-bait.

      If you read, look at what all other Palestinians who also would accept a [pie-in-the-sky nonsense of impossible] Zionist compromise say: that that 'solution" is only a compromise. If you can't make the difference between a compromise and justice, we can't talk. Do you consider the South African solution full justice or a compromise --a good one, in my view?

      As for being more Catholic than the Pope, again, citizenship conditions are something decided by the representative body of the Palestinians --back to the plebiscite question. There is the Pope.

    • Indeed the Israeli praise for Trump is another sign that the two Jewish communities are dividing over political values.

      BS again, if you'll excuse my French.
      The overwhelming majority of "Jewish community", US, not unlike the majority of Democrats and "Liberals", never disagreed with Trump's action whenever it was a matter of more aggression, more war, more Zionist occupation. The repeated aggression on Syria, the chemical hysteria and all other international acts of aggression by the US have only received clear and loud applause from the sectors mentioned.

      The only "liberal" and "Jewish" noises in the US against such acts by the Trump administration have come from very small minorities.

  • For we are God's special victims (an ode to the state of Israel)
    • Abou Bakr:

      This isn’t the WWE or some sporting event. There is no such concept of’fair’

      I'll be danged, I never imagined Bakr would be the only sane voice in here.

      Very well said!

      We are in a war started by a horde of USUK-propped invaders.. Look the word "war" up, it just means no pulling punches. These invaders are the least likely people on earth to suddenly get reasonable because of non-violent tactics but they are all under militia obligation and outside most protections; also the more people are massacred in plain sight the more the Eurocolonials are cheering through their crocodile tears.

      You started war and you won't be able to avoid getting it by the cartload. I'm guessing that even Palestinians won't let themselves be talked into collective suicide year after year by a bunch of do-gooders and relatives of Zionists preaching fake-Gandhi BS to the victims. That's how things work in the world, no matter if we want it or not: even Palestinians will wake up and the US' comeuppance is now being hastened. "Most powerful"? Yeah, your Nazi buddies have been just that, too.

      Get your @$$ outta there while it's time.

  • Stars — They’re Just Like Us: Celebs outraged over Gaza are speaking out
    • Shenfield,

      The problem with "internal opposition" by invaders, or offspring thereof, to Zionism in the Zionist entity is not that it's not being reported. It is, and in fact the relatively little we hear of it is already out of proportion to its real reach.

      The problem is essentially the same as with symbolic anti-Nazi opposition within Nazi Germany; it's futile. The energy would be better spent organizing resistance from abroad. This would also be morally the better solution for those "Jewish" opponents, as their continued presence on Palestinian soil only helps compound the war crime of civilian occupation (if invader offspring) or violates the boycott (if immigrants or visitors.)

  • Israel needs Palestinian violence to shift world opinion -- and 'The New York Times' helps out!
    • Is there really a difference between foreign and domestic policy for "liberals"? As long as the politically correct decorum has been satisfied and they are given time to claim more crumbs fallen from the war profits table and to do their handwringing, they always end up with their toes on the imperialist line. The "non-Zionist" liberals, too.

  • U.S. and European clothing brands are skulking away from workplace safety in Bangladesh -- at int'l risk
    • Pitifully poor reporting of some tragic story that has absolutely zilch connection in any way or wise to Palestine, Zionist aggression, or the price of cat's milk.

      It also has nought connection, by the way, to "Muslim lives" --in a theocratically created country that only exists as a result of confessional-based compulsory population exchange, resulting in a 100% Muslim proletariat and 100% Muslim comprador capitalists and 100% Muslim police state.

      Besides, there is next to no information at all on the mechanisms by which some mentioned voluntary accords or understandings among monopoly capitalist corporations and the spending of money is supposed to magically provide "safety", nada discussion of imperialism or local class war, etc. etc. Just some somber cursing of the monopoly capital group that spends less --on what exactly is left unclear.

      What's the idea, MW? From the outside it looks as if you were trying your best to shed more readers, on the "right" or the "left", who aren't with bleeding heart, do-gooding Dim liberalism and those who get irritated by piss-poor reporting on totally off topic stuff. Instead of trying to attract and mobilize all those who agree to help Palestinian resistance to Zionism.

  • Welcome the doubting liberals
    • Mooser,

      Did you get the memo that says that we are in war, that it's being going full blast for 70+ years and that a lot of people are dying of it?
      Asking just to make sure.

      Your dislike of political commissars is noted --I can promise I won't mention them to you.

  • Dear Natalie Portman: I too was once a liberal Zionist
    • No need to be "an ethno-theocratic state" to perform the genocide of unwanted populations.

      It was the secular and non-ethnic Union and Progress (continuing as the Single Party after refounding as a Republic) that eliminated millions of Armenians, Greeks and other undesirables in Turkey, and the very US-client "liberal and secular" democracy that followed them continued their operation.

      A "liberal"-Zionist, secular and tolerant "Zionist Bloc" or other LZ, beloved of the Western liberals will be much more effective than the Yahoos completing the already fully ongoing genocide of Palestinians when they finally manage to get the US to start a general war (while at the same time legislating equality, of course.)

      Start by reading "liberal" Zionists on their superior effectiveness in holding on to Palestine. Also read the UN Convention on genocide.

  • Natalie Portman says, Enough!
    • Of course that Ziobeetle Greenbaum can justify those words.

      It's effectively "ridiculous" for a Zionist to get disgusted to the point of revolt just by a few more murders, when all their history has already been one long genocide and war of aggression. It is a "Schande", by definition, because it exposes the murderous abomination of Zionism outside the chosen tribe; finally it is certainly sad for Zionists to see that even their own born-and-bred Zionists find Zionism too disgusting for their constitution.

  • Israel and its Democratic Party friends complain -- Trump gave Syria to Russia 'on a silver platter'
    • Citizen,

      Keeping the Golan is small potatoes. They got to keep it anyway for 50 years, no reason for losing it when Syria is already in tatters.

      The main goal in this relentless push to general massacre by the Zionists, who started, sold and directed the series of wars of aggression against the countries listed in the Yinon/PNAC plan, is that of creating total chaos and generalized war, because that is the only appropriate environment for performing a full-fledged, accelerated genocide. The Zionists'only hope for an acutely needed final solution is the extermination (and/or massive expulsion) of all Palestinians from all of Palestine (in fact from their Greater Israel.) Other money-making effects of war are just fringe benefits.

      Ask the Turkish Union and Progress generals who had to wait until they joined WWI before being able to exterminate (and/or totally expel from their own country) the Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks. Ask the Nazis who had to wait until WWII was in full swing before they could exterminate the Jews, Gypsies and other Inferior Races.

  • Jewish leader refuses to debate BDS with young Jew, at J Street conference
    • So where are the news in this?
      Zionist leader refuses to debate boycott with a Zionist (who may or may not be of the "liberal" or "cultural" variety), who may support the official BDS to further the ends of Zionism (i.e. solidifying their pre-67 conquest and colonialism.) And the well-known old war horse and mountebank Sanders gives an empty speech, again, to much applause from the "liberal" wing of the genocidaires.

      We know that scenario. It gets repeated every once in a while and remains without any real interest because it doesn't contribute to any progress, even at the already meaningless 2% level. No doubt Weiss, who has been seeing the red dawn breaking every morning or so for these, what, 10 years?, will be optimistic based on age differences or some such. Yet again. No reason to get excited.

  • Neocons and liberal interventionists are back in the saddle again -- though 'nobody wants a big war'!
    • Trump promised to take the US out of Syria last week. Now he has flip flopped

      Not flip-flopped. His master whistled.

      ... First, there was the order given from Above:

      Israeli officials: the “U.S. must strike in Syria” because “Assad is the angel of death, and the world would be better without him”

      Then there was the summoned servant’s immediate reply:

      Trump: “Many dead, including women and children, in mindless CHEMICAL attack in Syria. [...] President Putin, Russia and Iran are responsible for backing Animal Assad. Big price” .

      The most amazing thing is not that the subservient slave reacted like the subservient slave that he is. The most amazing thing is that the pretext used in this announced false flag was announced by Nikki Haley at the UNSC on March 12th, almost one month ago! That, and the fact that Trump probably did not realize that he was told to threaten only Syria and not Russia and Iran. Although, who knows, maybe the rabidly psychopathic Neocons who now run the White House actually did tell him to bark up Russia and Iran too, I would not put that past them.

  • Jews and trauma
    • now I note that “modern genocides” are “different” and not carried out in the open

      Says our ZioNS and "notes" wrong again.

      The ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by the invading ZioMericans, ZioPoles, etc. is being performed in plain daylight, under the eyes of the approving European colonials and the cheering American criminals. Way more in the open than the WWI and WWII genocides. It will be accelerated to high speed as soon as the opportunity of a general war can be concocted.

  • Killing Palestinian protesters turns into a PR debacle for Israel
    • Kathleen,

      Please don't think that I'm not taking this seriously. "As pathetic as it is in so many ways this is as good as it gets at this point" cannot be seen as a correct evaluation because there are a number of people who are not direct collaborators or first-person actors of Zionist banditism. Mr Sanders is such a collaborator and he is not the only person in the US of A. There are millions of people out there who are not committed snakes and can be made to listen to fact and logic.

      Also, the "Democrat" wing of the single dictatorship party is the main administrative organ of US imperialism. To even imagine that the owners of the country will allow anyone in or around that "party" to ever do anything that runs contrary to their plans (in our case that of full participation in the Zionist crimes) shows magical thinking at its worst. "This is as good as it gets" is absurd here, too: there are hundreds of millions of people out there who are not monopoly capitalists and warmakers; among them many millions are amenable to fact and logic and a good number of them are already fighting outside and against US imperialism and its Zionist action. Saying "this is as good as it gets" for the main administrative organ of US imperialism is no different than saying that a wild tiger is as good as it gets for saving a lamb from the tiger. Summary: the world is not composed of only your "party" and politics is not the same as the Demolican voting comedy.

      If the direct demonstration and confession by Sanders that his whole operation was the usual shepherd-dog trick did not open your eyes, the past several such operations during your lifetime should have. I am saying this limitedly to the old mountebank's performance re Palestine (leaving you to figure out what damage he has done to the working class and other people, too.)

      This said, some expression of interest like "even that old warmonger Sanders feels obliged to somehow show distaste with Zionist tactics; let's try to push him to do more" is of course OK --while imho ineffective.

      My objection, now, was about using this common discussion board, where the only common factor is supposed to be our solidarity with Palestinian resistance, as a pretext for disconnected posts that only contain party propaganda --and for the War Party, at that. Yours aren't the only such ones, far from it, but you sound like the most reasonable person in the bunch.

  • Older Jews are officially terrified of young Jews' views of Israel
    • Kathleen,

      in so many ways those young people may be more dedicated to Israel’s future

      Anyone "dedicated to Israel's future" is a deadly enemy of the Palestinian people.

      Are you aware that a war has been going on these 70 years (at least officially)?

      Don't you think it's time to choose sides?

  • Rabbi Cardozo: outlawing circumcision would 'end the state of Israel'
    • When I wrote

      We badly need a Hadrian to keep the Zionist barbarians away from decent humanity, to first of all stop their orgy of pillage, looting and war of aggression

      that of course didn't involve a permission to said barbarians to settle in Palestine; the Bronx should be good enough. Of course none of that concerns John 66, who continue his well-paid cutting and stitching in the States and wouldn't even dream of joining his invading barbarian brethren

    • John #66

      We badly need a Hadrian to keep the Zionist barbarians away from decent humanity, to first of all stop their orgy of pillage, looting and war of aggression. The Ostrogoths and Visigoths had nothing on the Zionists; Genghis Khan at least did not settle. Unlike the Zionist tick.

  • Video: East Jerusalem Palestinians fear new Damascus Gate checkpoint marks change in status quo of the city
    • "Mayhem",
      Your city in Australia? Ostr-aliyah?
      We MW readers had no doubts at all about your Zionist commitment and you now down the mask and out comes the usual coward who can't even go occupy Palestine like a brave little war criminal and perhaps become the rare stopper of a homemade rocket?
      Shame on you.

  • Skeptics who see Russiagate as warmongering will never get respect in the press
    • Genesto,

      he is a man of integrity, who would have offered a breath of fresh air to the Presidency if HRC hadn’t succeeded in sabotaging his efforts

      I'll offer an unsolicited and surely unwelcome comment: fresh air is a biologic need, not political; improper metaphors can only be stretched so far when there is an expectation of substantial change --not the case here. Men of integrity do not work as shepherd dogs in the service of the main administrative organization of US imperialism and war, the one calling itself "Democrat (or Republican) Party".

  • Trump's ambassador says the unspeakable: Uprooting settlers could 'cause civil war'
    • Annie,

      Ignoring all the basic arguments in a discussion does not make them disappear because the facts are still there that there won't be any Zionist withdrawal and that this is a war that has been going on full force since 1947.

    • Annie,

      The Palestinians are undergoing a genocide already; hard to see how Zionists can "punish" them any worse. Internecine strife among the Zionist murderers and if possible a civil war are inevitable if and when they get less support from the so-called West. They are also a much to be wished and encouraged part of liberation --should happen before the Zionists can complete their genocide.

      Only, that "civil war" won't be due to a selective withdrawal from the post-67 occupation because there won't ever be such a withdrawal. 60+ years since Suez should have been enough for everybody, even those who still believe in Santa, to understand that withdrawal is only a fake discussion point to keep the illusion in the West that there is a "peace process" or somesuch. Zionists (and the US) are exclusively about genocide and conquest --not in any way or wise making concessions unless coerced by superior force.

  • Israeli diplomat calls on American students 'to restore the honor' of vilified word-- Zionism
    • Hughes,

      Your thoughts are always welcome.
      If Weiss' rule is as you say, though, it is idiotic and dictated by the enemy --the one who reigns by violence and murder. Besides, it is downright ludicrous in its garish Dadaist absurdity about "celebration", but passim.
      Ignoring the elephant in this tiny room, i.e. that a war has been going on nonstop for 70 years, not counting all accessory wars, and that the enemy has a monopoly on all violence, is not likely to switch people to this or that side.

  • What's wrong with colonialism?
    • The Zionist lowlife still can't hear plain English from the Nuremberg principles: ALL damage resulting directly or indirectly from an act of invasion or from a war of aggression is the direct responsibility of the aggressor period.

      Ýou have a problem with Zionist invaders or their offspring getting harmed as a direct or indirect consequence of the Zionist invasion and wars of aggression? Take it up with your own goddam family and stop screeching already.

  • What MLK's 'Letter from Birmingham Jail' tells us about Ahed Tamimi in a cold Israeli cell
    • Sure, it stands to the most elementary logic: Jackdaw, or was it John S, born in the Bronx or thereabouts to parents immigrated from Bessarabia, Poland or the Planet Mars, returns ***home*** to the tip of Syria.

      You don't want a holy war or whatever it is against "the Jews"? You just don't invade in the name of "the Jews". Simple.

  • From Spinoza to Vilkomerson, Jewish voices for peace have long been banned-- by Jews
    • Johnson,

      1. There is officially a war going on, a boom-boom war, not a "War of Ideas" as the old slogan went. That one side is a bunch of disarmed civilians does not change the fact, it makes it much worse.

      2. The visited "loved ones", as the idiom says, are not just innocent civilians; they are complicit in the crime against humanity of colonization and expulsion --at least. A majority have invaded against all law, after the Zionist entity militarily attacked and expelled the owners of the territory and they immigrated as knowing accessories to the crime of apartheid, too --at the very least, given that an overwhelming majority seem to be reserve soldiers.

      3. Even without those elements, in any war the citizens of your enemy are the enemy except in cases where it can be proved that they are fighting their government. Even Dr. Schweitzer was interned by the French as a German citizen --and he saw it as entirely natural.

      4. Considering boycott and assorted measures, a serious economic impact is out of the question --the US taxpayer is on tap. Considering the >90% rate of ideological commitment on the part of the Herrenvolk population according to all polls, the only thing with the boycott that is likely to harm the Zionists is to make the private citizen understand that he is a pariah in the eyes of civilized populations. The really effective parts of the boycott are the academic boycott, the sports boycott and, most importantly, the shunning of private citizens! Only when Zohn Q Zublic realizes that he is utterly rejected by the "Western World"he's so proud of protecting from the Big Bad Arabs will there be any effect of the boycott.

      5. My main objection to working with declaredly tribal organizations (in the case of JVP, even if it were not an enemy of committed anti-Zionists, even if it were itself clearly committed against Zionism, which it is not) is that their members have a multitude of affective involvements and entanglements in the enemy camp --their so-called loved ones. Again, we are in a very real war that has already claimed tens of thousands of lives. The movement to support Palestinian resistance cannot afford such a ball and chain.

      4. Any travel as a private tourist to the Zionist entity, which is not concerted or on behalf of Palestinians not working for the enemy, is a serious breach of any kind of the most elementary boycott.

      If you want to join the resistance and be taken seriously, the very least you can do is, as Hughes so well says it, to pay the price. This means cutting all ties with Zionists, at the very least the Zionist entity Master-Race citizens. Anything else cannot be but some Liberal-Zionist "BDS" in order to hang on to some part of the illegitimate loot in Palestine, like the "boycott" limited to the post-1967 occupation practiced by bona fide Zionists.

    • Vilkommerson is wrong again:

      now, contrary to any democratic norm, there’s to be a political litmus test for entering the country.

      1. Democracies are not characterized by being open to all people independently of political beliefs or affiliation. As an example, the US is undemocratic not because it bars organized Communists from entering it. Similarly, the Zionist entity is undemocratic, and how, for a host of other reasons, but not because it has political criteria for letting anyone enter its non-existing borders.

      2. What this exclusion does to the Z. entity is something else: the Zionist entity loses its right to call itself "the Jewish state" the very moment it refuses to grace with its fake "citizenship" any person who responds to the published criteria defining "Jewish" according to the Zionist entity. If Chomsky or Finkelstein or Vilkommerson had held "Israel" citizenship (I believe Chomsky has done so) then barring them from entering its borders or "borders" disqualifies the Zionist entity from ever calling itself "Jewish state".

      If Vilkommerson held "Israel" citizenship the Zionist entity would be obliged, if it wants to call itself "Jewish state", to let her in (and then, being her owner, arrest her or do to her as it pleases.)

      3. Why would Vilkommerson insist on a right to be complicit in crimes against humanity and war crimes by, as I understand she wants to, entering pre-67 occupied Palestine with the purpose of visiting relatives etc. among the Master-Race occupiers? Such trips are still as illegal as residential immigration of unauthorized persons on a racial basis.

  • Israeli prosecutors try to make Ahed Tamimi a terrorist
    • PS
      To all: one thing that must be publicized as much as humanly possible will be more effective than any BDS:

      The Zionist entity is a war zone. It is dangerous to go there or even think of going there. It does not help your lungs, liver or bone marrow, no matter your ideological stance. DO NOT GO THERE. WAR ZONE.

      Our US Zionists know that. They ain't moving. They continue to inflict their unbearable presence on the rest of the US population, while sending over there the slower minds as cannon fodder.

    • John 66 is hard of hearing, too.

      If you don't want war, you don't start it. You'll get it. That simple.

      If you are not a war criminal, a criminal against peace, an ideological madman or a plain m0r0n, you don't go to a war zone anyway. Especially not by committing the crime of illegal immigration and occupation of someone else's land without the the owners' permission.

      You want to walk into a blazing furnace while it's obvious it's a blazing furnace, be my guest. Don't complain.

      All the "gentlemen-soldier" aristocratic cricket rules for conduct in war have been abolished by the Zionist atrocities since 1947 and the Zionist atrocities against exclusively civilians, just as they had been abolished by the Nazi occupation of Europe. They wanted an empire, they got Dresden, no matter the rules. The rule is that what you start will bite you.

      We know exactly what side John 66 and his wailers stand on: that of the cowards who start war from a couple continents away and don't even have the courage to do what they preach and go get hit by some stray bomb in warring Palestine. That's why all second person plural personal pronouns, above, don't mean anyone is addressing them, it's just the usual American indeterminate person.

    • By the way, John 66, didn't these people know that Palestine is illegally occupied by Zionists who have started a war of aggression and as a result no one can be guaranteed safety there?
      It's all over all the news since November 1947.
      What business have any people from anywhere going to settle or even travel in Palestine without a Palestinian invitation?
      It is dangerous and that must be repeated ad nauseam, at every opportunity.

      In fact, it's been a basic principle of all human life since times immemorial: don't go to a war zone.

    • Stop screeching "terrorism", Johnny66. That is exactly what YOUR Zionist government is doing, murdering civilians. By the carloads. When you start a war, that is exactly what you start and you should expect war in return. So stop playing the victim; your sob stories are not sincere and everybody knows it.

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  • Why liberal Zionists have nothing to say about Ahed Tamimi's slap and arrest
    • "Jack Green"

      More power to the Egyptian attacks. The just result of the 1956 war of aggression, which in fact is nothing but the continuation of the November 1947 aggression by Zionist bandits and allies, would have been the total discomfiture and expulsion of the Zionists from Palestine, of course.

      These Egyptian efforts and courage are worth saluting, but it is extremely depressing to see such ridiculously low Zionist casualty figures --an expected result of the colonial and imperialist powers' direct participation in all Zionist acts of aggression.

    • "Jack Green" back for even more ludicrous discoveries:

      So the Six Day War was not a new war. It was just a continuation of the 1956 war.

      Big, fat, hairy deal. That's news to you? Same friggin war of aggression, with the same and aggravated charge --more than enough to hang all the participants on the Zionist side.

    • None of the RC bullsh|t from Johnny66 applies. Again. These are not the basic law but procedural niceties that are followed when there is a temporary military occupation in a war between countries with armies while there has been some armistice arrangement and things are being sorted out. Here there is only one state, the illegal and bastard state of "Israel"', waging war against an entirely civilian, stateless people by means of a standing occupation intended as an instrument for annexation.

    • "New" math? Strange. The Convention is from 1929 and the Nuremberg rules and the UN Charter from 1945. Older than your murderer state.

      Also, you can quote all the small print you want from the rules of diplomatic behavior of the Red Cross. It does not supersede either the GCs or the UNC, which are in plain language.

      Your language is exactly that of the Nazi occupiers that murdered Resistants, calling them "terrorists", and your arguments are the same legalese used by the Kommandantur prosecutors. Eliminating Nazi occupation personnel, uniformed or not, was the right thing to do anyway and that was resoundingly recognized during the war and in 1945. You Zionists never got the memo but it will soon begin to hurt. Your occupier status is exactly the same; outside the Green Line it is exactly the same as the Nazi occupation of Europe even for the colonial and imperialist powers that illegally gifted Palestine to the Zionists!

      Also, I expect you to carry on as usual, harping on your nonsense RC rules for another 267 posts, so play with yourself from now on.

      Also, "fair game" means officially non-protected person, a medieval technical concept. I'll let Dickerson explain in detail if he feels like it.

    • So John 66 is playing the lawyer now, without knowing which book to quote.

      Try the Ancient Testament, that one gives all tights to occupiers. And quote small print and continue harping on it for another hundred days.

      One uncle of mine had the job, during the war, of eliminating Nazi officers and other occupation personnel, German and local. He was successful a number of times, then hanged.

      You would have been nice to see in a military lawyer uniform, defending the poor defenseless invaders to hang big bad resistants.

    • The Cat surpasses even himself today:

      It would be a huge mistake to bring nationalistic hysteria out of the loon blogs into the open

      Meaning nationalist hysteria as in Zionist workaday killing and lynching or US ballpark hysteria?

      until we all fall in a war of all against all

      because we aren't in just that already? One thing is sure: you are the enemy.

  • Israeli lawmaker calls Palestinians visiting relatives in Israeli prison 'beasts' and 'human scum'
    • Apart from the fact that war criminal Shalit had an entire, aggressive, genocidal government exerting collective punishment using the pretext of his being taken hostage, he was a regular uniformed murderer, taken hostage by the civilian resistance in a war of aggression. Not a protected person; on the contrary, free game! Of course the ICRC does something for these guys, too: did you properly inform yourself once in your life?

  • Pop star 'Lorde' honors BDS call, cancels Tel Aviv concert
    • How so? Finland is independent since 1917. The different regimes in Eastern Karelia, after 1923 Soviet Karelia , were never part of the state of Finland except during the Finnish occupation in the Winter War, 1941-1944. Plus the part of Ladoga-Karelia etc that was ceded by treaty to the Soviet Union. Besides, we are talking about the current Russian state and its respect of international law, as opposed to USrael.
      What are you trying to say?

  • The New York Times tries to make the Ahed Tamimi story go away
    • Is Johnny 66 really as clueless as he lets on?

      So "progressive" for him is about vanity "issues" as redefined by the imperial warmongers, i.e. the right of women and transsexuals to become war criminals and uniformed murderers just like their more moronic "straight" cavemen.

      Not about fighting or joining colonial invasion and imperialism, respecting international law or committing war of aggression, siding with the oppressor or the oppressed in the class war.

      A Democrat Zionist with the extra dose of clumsily feigned cluelessness.

  • How a Palestinian girl from an occupied village emasculated the Israeli army
    • Smith,

      Read again:
      You: "Ahed will say what she will say"
      Me: "She did, many times and forcefully. Where were you, asleep?"

      Of course you decided for her and the Palestinian people, by presenting as adjudicated the absurdity that Palestine is "home" to total invaders. Read again: "The Palestinian people is the owner of the entire territory of Palestine." That includes a decision on the citizenship of any non-Palestinian on the territory.

      "the right, affirmed by the ANC as integral to their anti-Apartheid movement, of white “invaders” to continue to live as equal citizens in post-Apartheid South Africa", is a compromise to end the fight in a given situation, in a given country. Not a universal right: other colonial peoples had completely different takes, as in Algeria or even India. Again, "When there is theft, justice means at least restitution." The SA solution may be an acceptable compromise to Palestinians --we don't know. It sure isn't up to some Murkin or so to impose all over the place.

      (Even in the countries that admit citizenship by place of birth --not a general rule by far-- that is conditioned most of the time to being there legally, ie by full consent of the local population and subject to its laws, not as some armed invader, occupier and thief. Would be interesting to see what most Europeans had to say about that in 1945.)

      As for collective punishment, there is no punishment in returning undesirable enemies to country of origin (or, in the rare case, to the third country that already declared readiness to accept; in this case the US.) Or even detaining them: even Dr Schweitzer was detained by the French because of his German citizenship and did not complain. Undesirable enemies the Zionist invaders are, as long as the war of aggression of the Zionist organization, now represented by the invader state, against Palestinians continues: they are Master-Race nationals of the official enemy power.

      I have to admire the final paragraph, where you so generously offer money, admittedly a tidy amount, in exchange for... the country the Palestinians want back (and forcefully said so before resistance was murdered and gagged in 1993.) I am not sure that such a well-meaning, if mercantile, offer would be met with cries of delight: most Palestinians may well take offense if they feel it is their right to get back their country (*and* get paid abundant reparation.)

  • US vetoes UN resolution on Jerusalem, as Muslim states recognize East Jerusalem as Palestine's capital
    • Mayhem,

      Cutesiest of all are those goons who start a war of aggression and then complain that there is a war. Especially those among them who adopt as nickname their program of aggression and war but seem so surprised, shocked, I tell you! when there is war and retaliation.

    • Kaisa,

      Just to avoid misunderstandings.
      This is not a question of "supporting a war". There is a full-blown war that's been going on for 70 years and counting and the question is how to stop it.

      I can't imagine it to ever get stopped by just hoping that the lion will lie with the lamb tomorrow. Any idea how many GA votes and talks and so on have been taking place in the 70 years? Look at how impressed the USRael is. No concession is forthcoming, ever, as long as the US stands and the Zionists are not bleeding.

      This being said, the peaceful way is there and it has always been available if the players so wish: it is for the Zionists to become rational actors overnight instead of ideologically indoctrinated Brave-New-Worlders and to comply with the requirements of law and reason when there is no armed (and superior) force to oblige them, and/or for the Americans to have a democracy with freedom of expression and association, where informing the population is possible and the popular will dictates the actions of the government, where cutting the Zionist umbilical cord does not call forth an immediate military takeover. Good luck.

  • Israeli Jews 'will never accept' giving vote to Palestinians -- liberal Zionist leader
    • The liberals in the U.S. voted for Hillary; the left voted for Bernie.

      Interesting: so the liberals voted for an openly fascistic war criminal and defender of war of aggression (well, many of them did, effectively), while the "left" voted for a warmongering mountebank whose lifelong job has been to make US imperialism digestible to the US population. Some "left".

      What goddam "left"? Where do you think you are? This is the US of A and there has been no "left" of any shape or description for the last 50 years.

  • The Chanukah of fire and occupation (is not about ancient times)
    • The Borises and John66es may want to know that the invaded Palestinian people has an unrestricted right to resist by all available means and that the occupying uniformed murderers are officially free game, as active participants in crimes against humanity and war crimes.

      Why does anyone have to defend or minimize the use of fully legitimate resistance in any shape or form?

  • The education of Kamala Harris
    • JWalters

      Deeply disappointed in Kamala Harris

      One way to avoid deep disappointments is to understand, already, that the branch of the single party that calls itself the Democratic Party is the administrative organ of imperialist monopoly, war of aggression and war against the people. The peons are not allowed to direct it at any time, they are only there to attract more sheep.

  • In age of forest fires, Israel's law against Palestinian goats proves self-inflicted wound for Zionism
    • How could I not know more about Israel than he does?

      First off, Cook is with the owners of the territory. Second, you aren't even aware of being a willing participant in a major war crime, JackZz.

  • Israel has more legitimacy than US because the bible mentions Jerusalem, not New York -- says David Harris
    • Johnson,

      Alternatively,, we could adopt the Echino platform and proclaim our desire to do something involving the forcible expulsion of Israeli Jews from the country where they were born, something that would require a massive war that might end up going nuclear. Good luck selling that position.

      Again, Johnson, these people are there in the quality of invading murderers*, not "Israeli Jews" (just as Palestinians are not there in their quality of "Arabs" but owners of the whole shooting match.)

      So you aren't buying. I'm not surprised. You also have an extraordinary belief in individual agency: insurrections don't happen just because you announce them. I am just announcing it; it's damn obvious to anyone with eyes to see.

      It's just as obvious as the hard fact that the Zionists won't make any compromise, anytime, because they are not just racists like the South African Whites. They are ideologically brainwashed. Most sane persons are probably out of the shitty place.

      *"innocent" my foot, by the way.

    • I had mentioned during the last Gaza slaughter that Hamas rocket attacks were war crimes.

      What part of "by all means available" is unclear?

  • Israel's top diplomat spouts anti-Semitic criticism of American Jews -- 'having quite convenient lives'
    • I don’t excuse oppressing and violent actions.

      Says the Green One.
      No, he merely participates in invasion, theft, war of aggression, ethnic cleansing and genocide as, at the very least, an accessory. Look up Streicher, you propaganda thingie.

  • The Clinton scandals entailed violent threats against people who knew about his sex life
    • It's more than a little ridiculous to be joining

      the revolution that is taking place in our mores, and in the structure of the patriarchy itself, due to the sexual harassment scandals that are felling powerful men

      for people who continue to remain within the War Party, flirting with war of aggression --as in the case of Libya. And, more importantly, feeding and exasperating the Puritan fascination of our US retards who don't mind war and imperialism but get scandalized about what politicians do with their wee-wee.

  • Who can save Israel now? Labor leader emulates Netanyahu
    • One cannot help being enthusiastic about this "liberal", a registered criminal against peace and war criminal:

      Tzipi Livni, Gabbay’s partner in the Zionist Union, sent out an SMS message stressing that Gabbay’s stance does not reflect her “Hatnua” party’s position...

      When Zionists, laboliberal and non, disagree about what should be talked about within "the framework of a peace deal" they are talking about ***talk*** only. Meaning what they will talk about during "negotiations" designed to delay any conclusion by another 10, 20, 40 years --as long as it takes to complete the ongoing genocide.

      If the last 70 years haven't already made that crystal-clear to all, the next 70 years will be no different.

  • Balfour at 100: A legacy of racism and propaganda
    • The Jesse imagines that "50 years is enough time".

      So you really think we are all morons, eh? What 50 years? The open war was started by your criminals against humanity 70 years ago and has only intensified since. That "50 years" nonsense is just for the gullible boobies, to make them think that invasion and aggression by the colonial racists was somewhat legitimate. It isn't.

      Also, "strategy or tactic" my eye and left foot. If anyone thinks this is going to be amicable (yes, I know some do) heshe is living on another planet. South Africa got somewhere after 90+ years of untold bloodshed. As you well know.

      And peoples don't just give up because "equal rights" are mentioned. In the case of Palestine, I'd be hugely surprised if the Palestinians don't continue to fight generation after generation, with stops and jerks of course, until they get their land back. Or until you murderers are successful in your genocide, whichever the earlier.

    • Jesse "the Just",

      We have been hearing immortally stinking crap just like yours during every fight against colonizers. Possibly though, you might be excused if you are too young and unable to read much.

      In my lifetime only, we have India, several African colonies including Algeria, to say nothing of South Africa. My parents heard it every day during the Spanish War and the Nazi occupations.

      The same exact stinking crap. What do you think people are, all morons?

  • Miko Peled on free speech and Zionism
    • Antidote

      You are assuming, incorrectly, that I am on speaking terms with the US Gov, its Nuremberg bait administrations, or its Demolican and Repucrat pigs.

      I am not. It's true that the (overwhelmingly Zionist-dominated) commanding managers of the US Gov are forcing me, under threat of armed intervention, to comply with their commands and to pay taxes. They cannot force me to absorb their propaganda.

      As for the Zionist entity, it cannot force me, or any association I might control, to give it a public tribune, to give them the time of the day, or to have any kind of non-hostile communication. They started the war and do not call it off.

      As I said, I am still against any legal limitations to any speech by anyone (including those who breach the BS "incitement" or the fascist "calling fire" nonsense.) That, I suppose, includes anyone with a humanoid anatomy, including even Zionists.

  • A plea to Israel: Don't start the third Lebanon War
    • You started the war in November 1947 and never stopped it. You made your bed, now lie in it until you get what's coming.

    • Marnie,

      If the borderless state of israel had chosen years ago to give all palestinians citizenship with equal protection under the law and equal rights, and had never commited itself so stupidly to keeping a population of millions in an open air prison, perpetrate atrocities from the innumerable war crimes to the daily horrors inflicted upon the native population, there would be peace.

      That's a well-meaning wish. Occupied populations do not forget they are occupied. Even with so-called equal rights.

    • Derfner,

      The war started in November 1947 by the Zionist aggression is still on, remember? The Zionist horde is the invader. It also is an invader that started a war of aggression against Lebanon --still ongoing, too, and there was no Hizbullah when they started and the Zionist entity is still occupying Lebanon. "Second War" is Zionist aggressor terminology, and it is particularly stupid.

      No use counting 2 or 10, either, especially if they are uniformed invader soldiers. Any resistance, no matter if by "monsters" or not, is legitimate. In fact, there is no need here to even invoke any excuse: any attacks against the Zionist entity are perfectly kosher as long as it remains in war.

  • Zohra Drif's memoir of Algeria's fight for freedom is stunning
    • Hughes,

      That is called war. Once it's on, there are no rules but to utterly destroy the occupier. Any aggressor or occupier who tries to resist will necessarily put its own population (and collaborators) in harm's way.

      How fast we forget our own occupation and resistance, and even the more recent anticolonial struggles.

      That's why the UN Charter carries the Nuremberg principles; invaded populations have the imprescriptible right to fight by all means necessary, period. This is not a fell-good statement; it is fairly ominous. Anyone with many relatives and friends in the Resistance, the Mau-Mau, the ANC or any other liberation movement can tell you what ends up being "necessary" if the aggressor doesn't quit soon.

      None of that applies to the aggressor party, by the way, who doesn't even have the right to **be** there.

      Algeria offered what is required: become loyal Algerian citizens, or else choose between a suitcase and a coffin. That's highly appropriate.

  • Rachel Maddow's lineup of crazy U.N. speeches spotlights Arafat-- and leaves out Netanyahu!
    • J Walters,

      The puzzling thing is how someone as THOROUGHLY progressive on all other issues could be so blindly oblivious and regressive on Palestine and Israel. And not just Maddow, ... Elizabeth Warren ... Bernie Sanders, Judy Woodruff, and others

      Yeah, how come people so goddam "progressive" they never stopped cheering and egging on the Bushes and Obamas and Goerings of this world to do more and bloodier wars, so thoroughly "progressive" they never found any war that they would oppose, so progressively trying their best right now to also start WWIII or something just like it, are just exactly as "progressive" when it comes to Zionist invasion and war? What a thick mystery...

  • Ayelet Shaked and the fascist ideology
    • The Mussolini picture is a bit off up there.
      Zionism is clearly from the same source as the Nazi branch of Nazifascism than "classical" Italian fascism; its extreme nationalist, racial supremacist and genocidal character is definitely the one with the most weight; the ideological precedence is on racial purity before monopoly capitalist, corporate domination.

      As for its total contempt of all international norms, proud promotion of aggression and war, police state in contravention of all democratic rules, all those characteristics, all those characteristics are shared by a large number of states and "democratic" parties, including our very own Democrat Party. They are far from being a distinctive feature. In fact, the speech Mussolini was making when this picture here was made, from the balcony of the building in Piazza Venezia, was not substantially different from what we routinely hear from Obama, Queen Hillary etc. Shaked et al.'s words, on the other hand, are often Hitlerian in essence.

  • Changing the narrative, from BDS to antifa
    • And if Mooser believes fairy tales that would be strange. You want to tell me that the state machine in charge and the press are for equal rights and non-discrimination and inclusion and the last 7 wars and the ongoing wars including the Zionist occupation. Fine. Continue wasting liberaloid fake antifascism on a ragtag band of destitute clowns, so that we can safely ignore the spies and Democrats and McCains and generals and such starting more war.

  • 'Auto-anti-Semitism!' Naftali Bennett declares war on Jewish self-hatred in Israel
    • John S yet again.

      intentional - non-intentional nonsense.
      - How do I know the intention? Have you the record of what went in the perp's head?
      - No, I know because the perp told me so.

      Way to go. We know the intention because war criminals, criminals against peace, mass murderers, thieves and pirates told us so. Oh yeah.

  • Chomsky still believes in the old Israel. I did too, once upon a time
    • Goldmarx,

      I said "those actions that...", and the reason they are suspect is that they are the majority of actions. A concert boycott here and there is nice, but campaigning on the basis of occupation outside "Israel" is helping Zionist propaganda, is helping push further the idea of some Zionist legitimacy. That is precisely why the Zionists love participating in limited BDS. By boycotting "settlements" they reinforce the invasion and buy it legitimacy in the eyes of the Western public.

      The aim of boycott and sanctions is not to directly inflict major economic damage on an entity that the US (together with others) is committed to keeping on life support forever. That would be silly. The aim is mainly to educate, agitate, organize the Western population so that the Western governments' margin for maneuvering is restricted, and to hit the enemy's morale and prestige. If our education and agitation are channeling Zionist propaganda on the Z entity's (initial, liberal-Z) so-called legitimacy by concentrating on post-67 occupation, specifically invoking the 1967 conquest, what kind of educating and agitating are we performing? If our action only hits the "settlers" and crazies and reinforces the goody-two-shoes "liberal" genocidaires, what kind of war are we waging?

      So the baby-steps strategy is obviously working against the declared aim of mobilizing against Zionist aggression. It does target "excesses", and that is valuable in itself, but the propaganda effect summarized above looks to me like a net loss.

  • Israel would use nuclear weapons to keep refugees from returning -- Noam Chomsky
    • John S sez

      Don’t worry, I’m still firmly on the Left

      The Left my right *cheek. He is a common-or-garden Zionist, a raging racist, an invader, a participant in war of aggression, a profiteer from mass dispossession, mass misery and mass murder. Left indeed.

      Too thick to understand that the following means him?

      the same "settlers" have also invaded Mondoweiss and keep throwing virtual banana peels, rotten veggies, sewer material and the kitchen sink, relentlessly, in a more or less successful attempt not to let others turn their attention to discussing what they can or should do.
      Make no mistake, it's all the same "settlers", no matter if they call themselves liberal or cavemen.

  • Bari Weiss and the neoconservative hold on the Democratic Party establishment
    • So even though Bari Weiss is a “neoconservative” (according to The Week) and worked at the conservative Wall Street Journal and is doing a podcast with conservatives at the National Review, she is actually trying to win battles in the Democratic Party.

      "Even though"? Is Mr Weiss missing the blindingly obvious merger of the Neocons, the Democrats and the War Republicans? The (re)marriage has long been celebrated and consummated.

  • Ensconced at New York Times, pro-Israel advocate Bari Weiss smears Sarsour as a 'hater'
    • Citing such cases leads one to suspect that extreme right politics, including islamophobia, and persecution of black liberation fighters are just fine with Yonah.

      Considering that colonial invasion, war of aggression, apartheid, genocidal practices, instigating aggressive war by other states, parasitism, and the long list of Zionist habits is all left-leaning liberal with Yonah, there should be no surprise there.

  • Napoleon, Hitler and the economy -- David Brooks hints that Trump is losing his mind
    • Kay,

      It's even more frightening to be governed by competent war criminals and criminals against peace, who calculate exactly their crimes, are good at propaganda and let free rein to the armament makers, the generals and the Zionists guiding US policy. I mean your own warmongering bosses, the Clinton Harpy, the abominable Obama, Sanders the war-loving mountebank. Without forgetting of course the ones you also voted for: George Bush the son, Clinton, Bush the father, and so on. How fast we forget the destruction of all these countries in compliance with direct orders from the Zionists.

      Where you give away your solidarity with the murder mafia is when you praise the Generals' "knowledge" --of course they are knowledgeable and competent in committing crimes against humanity and war crimes, duh! that's their job and that's the only thing they have ever done since 1945-- against the judgment of civilians.

      All this by way of reminder only. Trump isn't an improvement over the Democrat and Republican administrations but the hasn't done anything worse than your Demoneocon guys. Yet.

      What is so hard to swallow is that you Democrats are sincere when you appear not to realize that you carry the full responsibility of the Trump presidency, too.

  • Israel is losing the battle for public opinion thanks to honest journalists, and platforms like Mondoweiss
    • Eljay returns...

      – reforming Israel from a religion-supremacist state for Jews into a secular and democratic state for all Israelis (incl. refugees);
      – expecting Israel to end its occupation of not-Israel and withdraw to within its / Partition borders.

      So you've been deputized to do that by the full Palestinian population, sole owner of the territory? No. The only alternative is that you are proposing that to save the Zionist intruders' @$$.

      (And I also advocate reparations and accountability for (war) crimes committed.)

      I'm sure it will be such a consolation for the people who lost their country, their freedom to decide who is authorized to stay in their country...

      The decision to unify (or not) Israel and not-Israel into a single state would be up to the voting publics of those two secular and democratic states.

      I'm sure you will be bemedalled one day for helping the propaganda to allow the muscling in of the genocidal invaders with the same rights as the owners of the country.

      You can scream until you're blue in the face want that you are not committing Zionist propaganda: all I see is that you are working overtime to anchor in everyone's mind a notion that the invader b&&&&&&s have as much right to decide Palestine's future as the Palestinians. Continue.

      That’s why I advocate a humane solution

      You don't get to decide what is a humane solution. The Palestinian population does. I expect it will show at least as much humanity to the Zionists as was shown to itself.

    • Sibiriak,

      I somehow expect a lot of people here not to see it. Really: there is this somewhat widespread mania of striving for a solution in terms of final settlement ob jectives --without bothering at all to even get authorization by the owners of the place.

      I just don't care what happens in Palestine, except that any invader presence at all, no matter if pre-48 or pie-in-the-sky secular-democratic-brotherly-love or whatever, must be duly authorized by a representative plebiscite of all Palestinians excluding the invaders. I don't give a damn if a Palestinian plebiscite ends up requesting a secular democratic state or a theocracy or a dictatorship of the proletariat or anything else the Palestinians want for their own place, period. That such an authorization is made impossible by the Zionist occupation does not justify deciding in lieu of the owners of the place.

      I also consider any attempt to legitimize any invader presence in Palestine, otherwise than as authorized under the above stated conditions, as providing a justification to Zionists. Equality, secular democracy and all these nice geegaws are not a valid excuse.

      Below are a couple samples out of a total of >190 from Eljay. No authorization from Palestinians is requested anywhere and multiple objections about Palestinian assent (and exclusively Palestinian right to decide) have all been answered with the arrogance of someone who has the key to heavens and decides for the Palestinians what they should be doing in their own country (= all of Palestine.)

      Enough anyway: now the different camps are getting much better delineated.

      "I believe that Israel’s borders should be the Partition borders Israel accepted and within which it was recognized as a state."

      " Israel exists but must reform from a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" primarily of and for Jewish Israelis and non-Israeli Jews into a secular and democratic state of and for all of its Israeli citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees, equally.
      - Israel must end its on-going occupation and colonization of not-Israel and withdraw to within its / Partition borders.
      - A secular and democratic Israel should continue to exist next to a secular and democratic not-Israel."

      "Religion-supremacist and (war) criminal "Jewish State" has no right to exist. It must be torn down and replaced with secular, democratic and law-abiding Israel - a state of and for all of its Israeli citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees, equally. There's nothing wrong with such a state having a population comprised of a majority of non-Jewish Israelis and a minority of Jewish Israelis."

      "Jerusalem - tied or untied - should be a free city and the capital of neither a secular, democratic and egalitarian Israel* nor a secular, democratic and egalitarian Palestine.
      (*Israel, not supremacist "Jewish State".)"

      "I'd rather see a secular, democratic and egalitarian Israel - a state of and for all Israelis, equally, established within its / Partition borders - survive alongside a secular, democratic and egalitarian Palestinian state - a state of and for all Palestinians, equally."

      "I have no problem with a secular, democratic and egalitarian Israel - a state of and for all Israelis - regulating its territory for the benefit of all of its Israeli citizens."

  • Three settlers stabbed to death and three Palestinians shot dead in turmoil over security measures at al-Aqsa mosque compound (Updated)
    • Thanks, Kaisa. I just wish the requests to keep these disputes to other venues were taken up instead of continuing here, though.

      At any rate, as long as we are in this forum, I don't give a rat's ass for any of that "ulterior motive" stuff. Of course everyone has "ulterior motives". Point is, the only aggressor is the US and there is only the War Party in US politics, hellbent on provoking war at any cost, besieging Russia and trashing international law. If you want to live a peaceful life, you start by stopping the aggression. Like kicking out the US and NATO. If you are the US, you keep all your uniformed murderers within your own borders, and you stop open propaganda for a neocon putsch (in the direct interest of Zionists) under cover of supporting Palestinian resistance.
      Enough of this here, anyway.

    • Kaisa:

      "Similar interview", similar to what?

      And thanks for the article, but it provides no information of any interest and I have no opinion at all on the subject of personal corruption of Russian plutocrats or American embezzlers or their protection racket. All I am interested in is the push these last 10 years to totally enslave the Europeans, besiege Russia, destroy all countries targeted by the Zionists and provoke a major war with Russia.

    • Sure I know, Mooser. The word fits exactly the McCarthyist campaign led by the CIAFBINSA and all the alphabet with the neocons at the wheel, powered by the entire Democrat party, enthusiastically joined by the "respectable Republicans, and manned by the gullible, calling to the arms by attacking 24/7 some Russian plot for which there is no probable cause, insisting on provoking war with Russia, exacerbating the war WE started in Syria and neighboring countries on behalf of the Zionists.

    • Kay,

      Your relentless propaganda for war and mayhem, steady refusal to answer demands for evidence, your deviation of the site's purposes exclusively for unrelated propaganda and your use of blatant lies are nauseating.

      Your posts are among the most effective in turning off any Dims left around.

  • 'You are thieves of history!' Hotovely tells Palestinians, waving books at them
    • Sibiriak,

      I apologize: I had missed that,

      But then, there is no one "usage" and no sociolinguistic considerations apply for any consensus where war is raging.
      To Zionists, sympathizers and journalists it may well be "Israeli city in Israel/Erets yissraël/Palestine etc" but to an anti-Zionist even such a Zionist military camp in Palestine might well be Palestinian.

      Besides, UNESCO usage follows or should follow international law strictly: no usage vagaries for their formulations.

  • Young survivors of Gaza beach slaughter three years ago 'lost their minds'
    • Sixty-six,

      Not a very smart question.
      The overwhelming majority of Palestinians still have to be consulted about authorizing any Zionist outlaws, starting 1897, to squat anywhere in Palestine, as per the procedure required by their right to self-determination and the UN constitutive documents.

      The Zionist bandits have invaded Palestine and unleashed a war of aggression against its owner population, and they continue it with full force: this means that the Zionist leadership relishes and actively seeks "individual or mass slaughter of Israeli civilians… bus and restauarant[sic] bombings" and anything that may or may not happen to their illegally imported cannon fodder population. Enjoy. Or go join the cannon fodder.

  • Israeli paper investigates 50-year-ago attack on 'USS Liberty,' while US papers leave it in the letters column
    • We could accept the view, which the Haaretz article endorses, that the attack was a mistake or “screw-up” in the fog of war

      Cannot understand how Weiss co-signs such nonsense.
      As for the "Israeli paper investigates", what it does is spread more Ziolight propaganda and trouble the waters.

  • Clinton lost because PA, WI, and MI have high casualty rates and saw her as pro-war, study says
    • Kay,

      That list is effectively enlightening; I'm not joking. It reads as the list of (mostly) US-instigated and (all) US-supported interventions to continue the destruction of the Soviets and dismember Russia, too.

      Many of them, by the way, are obscure to the general public because this is obviously a list kept up to date by the aggressors themselves, most of them leading your Democrat party, the rest the other criminal party. The last two items are such blazing lies that not a single person in the world can believe them. Continue working for war of aggression.

    • Kay,

      Did you get news that the blood-sucking Clinton Harpy is preparing a comeback? Perhaps by finally staging a takeover?
      Is that why this totally gratuitous propaganda note is being slipped in, to the rescue of the Party?

      There is no doubt she would already have started the new world war, to gladden the hearts of all red-blooded Democrats and its new supporters the Neocons, the CIA, and the rest of the alphabet.

      Now, can we please finally hear what, exactly and demonstrably, is wrong with Russia?

    • Bernie also questioned the war

      Minimally, at the last minute, without sincerity, as a participant in all the war crimes of the last 20 years, having voted the AUMF as well as all wars of aggression, or at least the budgets for them. And as an ongoing supporter of the Middle East wars of aggression.

  • Anti-Semitism accusations against 'Dyke March' prove pro-Israel lobby will torch LGBT rights for marginalized people
    • Sibiriak again

      Since echinococcus rejects the official BDS movement and any rights-based approach grounded in international law

      Are you serious? Why reject the official BDS movement?
      With all its flaws, even its limited actions are generally in the right direction and should be supported. If they stop short of my goal, no skin off my nose, others will take over of I can continue personally.

      As for the rights-based approach, the only rights-based approach is to oppose any and all illegal decisions of the so-called international bodies in flagrant violation of the basic principles of non-aggression, non-conquest, and self-determination in general. Which means anything according any legitimacy at all to the Zionist entity.

      Hope, in echino's view, lies in worldwide war or the re-education of America's Trump voters

      The reeducation of America has the goal of stopping US support to the Zionist entity.
      If that can happen before the Z are successful with their genocide of Palestinians, then it would certainly ease the conditions and pull away much of the international support.
      But that will not by itself achieve justice.

      In the long run, worldwide geopolitics will certainly change a lot and we don't know how much the Palestinians, provided US support to Z ends, can achieve. If it comes to an internal and international balance of forces definitely unfavorable to the Z, the likelihood of these crazies giving up instead of committing large-scale mayhem and collective suicide seems low to me. I wish you can prove me wrong there.

    • Talknic,

      so what? Israelis belong in Israel, not in occupied territories illegally acquired by war.

      "Israel" is itself an occupied territory illegally acquired by war, as you know and I know you know. Ergo, "Israelis" do not belong anywhere in Palestine.

      Ever heard of something called "logic"?

    • Thank you, Chocopie.
      In fact, it was an even more important failure for the Reichspropagandaabteilung.

      See the very recent post "In war against ‘cell phones,’ Israeli launches social media app" (already pulled from the menu?)

      Big points are earned, for example, by signing a petition that requests a full apology from Chicago Dyke March organizers for excluding Zionist marchers or another that calls for the boycott of Roger Waters over the musician’s active BDS support.

  • Israeli victory in '67 was manufactured in western Europe, not by 'Jewish geniuses' -- Guy Laron at Wilson Center
    • "Nathan"

      you should note that incitement calling for genocide is a war crime, and one is entitled to go to war in such circumstances.

      Well said!

      There you have it. Even more than "incitement", a newfangled charge, the practice of genocide, which the Zionist entity has been openly conducting since its first day, after having threatened and announced it in so many words since the start of the 20th century, is even more than that. It is reason enough to destroy said Zionist entity. As explicitly stated in international law.

      The continuous yapping of this last propaganda-bot would have been the irritant he intends it to be, were it not for the ignorance and stupidity that supplies its own antidote in almost every post.

  • The deep bonds of Palestinian-Puerto Rican solidarity were on display at this year's NYC Puerto Rican Day Parade
    • I don't mind your asking, Mooser, but your questions are a little, let's say, irrelevant. First, regardless if you like it or not, it is a solid fact. Regardless if I "push the line" or not, the fact persists, it's not "my war". Second, mentioning it here is a reminder for behavior appropriate to that fact. Recruitment is entirely the Palestinians' problem.

    • Continue trying to deviate. This is a war of aggression by the Zionists and various colonialist powers they control, a boom-boom war, not "of ideas", and the point is that that it requires behavior corresponding to that fact. Continue trying to minimize the fact that there is an enemy, and how.
      Who are you to insist on stupid, unrelated questions, anyway?

    • Sibiriak,

      Generally you're able to present your diversion more intelligently.

      How many wars do you reckon “we” are in at the moment? Please list. Thanks.

      Just as relevant (and just as arrogant) to the question in hand as "How many pimples on your nose? You owe me a report."

      The fact remains that this is a real war where the aggressor is hell bent on utterly destroying the attacked side. Trying a diversion on "dehumanizing" won't switch the attention away from the fact that the enemy is really a mortal enemy.
      No need to scare-quote that "we": it doesn't necessarily include you.

    • "Not human" is a compliment, Sibiriak. There is no other warring and genocidal species.
      No other animal species could have produced anything as horrible as the Zionists.
      The fact that they are human, though, does not take away the fact that we are in a war and must learn to behave appropriately.

  • Packed room on Capitol Hill hears Palestinian student say he thought three IDs and a separation wall was normal for children everywhere
    • Talknic,

      Hard to know if you are asking in good faith or pretending not to understand.

      1. The Zionist entity is of course, since 1948, a self-declared state under the name of "Israel". Heir of all actions of the precedent shape (=invaders and terrorist bands) of the Zionist entity.

      2. When you say "They [the Zionist invaders in Palestine] are in their millions. Are you gonna sue ’em individually?" you reveal an exclusively gown-and-wig approach to resistance. Who is talking of suing, except as an insignificant sideshow? Didn't you get the news that this is a war? Would you imagine relying exclusively on some Nazi-occupied courts during WWII, to ask for a judgment expelling the Germans from the occupied lands?

      No, the idea is not to sue them but expel them if that is the general wish of the Palestinians, as indicated by very many signs, whenever the balance of forces allows it. If a proper, valid plebiscite can be conducted, so much the better. Continuing to defend the absurd idea of a legitimate Zionist presence in Palestine can only work against this.

    • Eljay,

      Stop BSing us, please.

      Israel’s borders are the Partition borders:
      – it accepted;

      The owners of the country never accepted

      – within which it asked to be recognized as a country;
      – within which it was recognized as a country

      Not by the owners of the country but by hostile colonialist, imperialist powers.

      – outside of which it has been engaging in colonialism and (war) crimes for almost 70 years.

      Oh, not Inside the initial occupation zone, too? That was at least as criminal in the way of colonialism and war crimes --not to you "liberal" Zionists. The 70 years start with the initial Zionist occupation, which is not "outside of which".

      By repeating relentlessly this despicable propaganda, you are trying to legitimize the Zionists' crime of invasion, ethnic cleansing, theft and Apartheid in the mind of the readers. No matter if limited to the first occupation or the successive waves of aggression. Your denouncing the criminal enterprise is useless as a fig leaf when you make yourself an accessory to helping the invaders enjoy the fruits of the Nakba.

  • The Israelis
    • American Jews are all that can save Israel from the ideology that envelops it. That change won’t come from Israelis

      What a comedown it is to read this, Weiss. Who the hell wants to "save" the shitty, genocidal, bastard Zionist entity? From itself, no less.

      The ones that need being saved, and really need it because they are being genocided, are the Palestinian people, not the invader bunch (who is only waiting for the right opportunity to apply the American-style final solution: as you so well observe, the oceanic Nazi crowd "seem to want the Palestinians to assume the position of the American Indian".)

      In the absence of some worldwide war, the only way to do that is by turning around the US, and it's not your insignificant "American Jews" but only the general population, the masses of Americans, the people who just voted Trump because they've had it, who can do that. Every cent we can spare should go to informing them.

  • Israel and P.A. go forward with plan to cut electricity to Gaza by 40 percent
    • "Humanitarian"? No need for 0'bAma-style war of aggression. The Zionist entity has vastly earned armed intervention for its wars of aggression --at least 6 of them. There wouldn't even be a need to discuss it without the US.

  • Israeli soldiers shoot from towers across fence into Gaza protest, killing Palestinian
    • Plutarch, Life of Lycurgus of Sparta:
      "The magistrates from time to time sent out into the country at large the most discreet of the young warriors, equipped only with daggers and such supplies as were necessary. In the day time they scattered into obscure and out of the way places, where they hid themselves and lay quiet; but in the night they came down into the highways and killed every Helot whom they caught. Oftentimes, too, they actually traversed the fields where Helots were working and slew the sturdiest and best of them. So, too, Thucydides, in his history of the Peloponnesian war, tells us that the Helots who had been judged by the Spartans to be superior in bravery, set wreaths upon their heads in token of their emancipation, and visited the temples of the gods in procession, but a little afterwards all disappeared, more than two thousand of them, in such a way that no man was able to say, either then or afterwards, how they came by their deaths. And Aristotle in particular says also that the ephors, as soon as they came into office, made formal declaration of war upon the Helots, in order that there might be no impiety in slaying them.
      And in other ways also they were harsh and cruel to the Helots. For instance, they would force them to drink too much strong wine, and then introduce them into their public messes, to show the young men what a thing drunkenness was."

      The Spartan colonial fascists at least went lightly armed and naked to terrorize and massacre the enslaved local population, as you see.

      Compare to the Zionist cowards.

  • Intersectional feminism: Wonder Woman, Palestinians, Wakanda and Zionism
    • Quite so, Sibiriak. But that is no argument against a boycott. I won't buy a turnip if sold by a Zionist, and I won't buy a movie in which one is playing.
      That's the only way to deny them their livelihood.

      You still didn't get the memo that there is a war? A real one.

  • Why has the Israeli occupation lasted so long? It's good for business.
    • Larick,

      I agree with almost everything you say about Halper's analysis, his remarkable analytic and expressive skills, etc. His representation of the Palestinian Helot/Guinea pigs as a stimulating force for the security industry, and the role of the vicious circle of the security industry as a sponsor of endless occupation is convincing.

      Problem is, my criticism was not an "ad hominem attack" but directed at all the tribals who, like Halper, illegally immigrated to Palestine without the owners' permission and are still squatting there.
      Let's not forget that this is a war. In war time, enemy citizens are suspect except if they are deserters --and saboteurs remain unknown by definition. We won't start on those whose nearest and dearest are with the enemy. This is only natural, independently from the proclaimed positions of the individual.

      Even if you were among the rare persons remaining, who can see any value in overt opposition within the Zionist Master-race population, IMO that is more likely to be effective if performed abroad.

  • Making the crossover from Elie Wiesel to Marc Ellis
    • John S,

      Thanks for responding.

      I'm not an invader, I live in my people's historic homeland. No Jew is an invader in the Jewish homeland.

      Of course you are an invader. You illegally immigrated into Palestine, against the will of its owners, the Palestinian people.

      Those Palestinian Jews who lived in Palestine before 1897, the year the Zionist beasts announced their intention to colonize the place, of course were Palestinians and their direct descendence should have a right to Palestinian citizenship. No other.

      I'm not a war criminal

      Of course you are. You are part of the foreign civilian population settled on conquered land in flagrant violation of the Geneva Conventions (and other international law instruments before the GC.) Of course, it would be impractical to try and sentence all participants in such a mass crime, just the way only a few leaders among the Nazis were convicted and punished. You are far from being any kind of leader. But then, if you ever were under uniform or in the reserve for the Zionist entity you sure are a war criminal and possibly indictable.

      I also support freedom of speech. “Veterans Today” can say whatever they want on their website.

      Strange. What the VT articles you cited are about is a request for freedom of speech, so that the Holocaust (TM) Industry propaganda used for the age's biggest extortion scheme may be discussed and criticized. You falsely characterized them as "Holocaust(TM) denial". What can your goal be, other than banning any discussion?

      The Webster defines Anti-Semitism as : “hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group”

      The Webster is full of sh|t. Return it. This definition

      -does not differentiate between opposition to "Jews" (undefined) due to their religion, which is an acquired characteristic, not something that is there from birth, and as such perfectly legitimate,

      - pushes obvious Zionist propaganda by positing that "Jews" (undefined) are an "ethnic group", which they definitely are not, under any circumstances: the religious ones belong to a religion but the irreligious have nothing in common among the different groups. You as an Eskenazi are totally foreign in every aspect of "ethnicity" to my family. Opposition to the Eskenazi for the single fact of being born so would of course be a despicable thing, Anti-Ashkenazism. I'd agree with that.

      - of course there is no such "racial group" except in Zionist myth, but that doesn't keep both Nazis and Zionists from murderous racial discrimination. That last element is of course fully valid and I do condemn any discrimination based on the sole fact of being born "biologically Jewish".

      So we are left with one element only: racism. Well, there is no need to separate "antisemitism" from common-or-garden racism. The racism that you and your fellow Zionists are practicing against all persons born Palestinian does not give you much of a standing to protest this (real) antisemitism, you know?

    • So, invader and unindicted war criminal John S, now shows that in defining "Holocaust(TM) Denial" he predictably follows the Holocaust(TM) Industry line: he classifies under this inflammatory name the request for freedom of speech, including freedom to question any and all Zionist propaganda around one genocide. Even though I do not share Faurisson and Co.'s views, I sure will defend their right to discuss it anything they want. Same by Veterans Today. The same position is that of the Zionist but honest Noam Chomsky, by the way.

      Saying that the Holocaust (TM) Industry managers and peons are vile liars and extortion artists, to the tune of tens of billions, in the service of the Zionists does not mean that a genocide of people the Nazis considered Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, etc. did not happen. Of course it did, but the Zionist lies must be pitilessly hunted and rejected.

      He also indicates as "antisemitism" the observation that the US is not a Jewish-majority country, by far, and logically when one wishes one's neighbor a good Easter or happy Xmas or whatnot, normal people wouldn't ask one's baptism certificate. Except in a Zionist-powered "Jewish" dictatorship.

      So when are we getting the exact definition of "antisemitism" from any of youse? One gets tired of asking.

  • Oren sees 'radical implosion' of US Jewish support for Israel -- then calls Palestinian polygamy 'existential threat'
    • Quite so, Keith, but lip service, even if coming from the worst enemy of a specific advancement, is extremely important. I think that most may agree that the colonialist criminals came to denounce colonialism as if it were their enemy, too, in 1960 --and consolidated the imperialist enslavement of their ex-colonies. The important thing for us is that the use of anticolonialist, humanitarian rhetoric even by the very colonialists was current since the war; the creation of the Zionist entity by these same powers, just while India was gaining its independence, was a total violation of the UN Charter and had to be presented to the world using anticolonialist gobbledygook to justify the creation of yet one more colony.

    • Sibiriak,

      You are correct as to your approximate date of the about-turn by the main colonial powers. Effectively, the powerful end-of-war and postwar anticolonial rebellion did force its very enemies to pay lip service to decolonization, what with the success of the Indian independence, the already sealed future of Japanese-occupied colonies, the already certain success in Algeria, etc. etc.

      One thing that should not be overlooked is that before the colonialist powers subscribed to decolonization, the foundation of the UN and the charter it was based on were already anticolonialist in essence, and the General Assembly membership was already mostly anticolonial. In fact, in all general histories the turning point is indicated as being around 1945.
      The one exception, again, was the Zionist entity.

  • Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival
    • Israel provoked the war in the same way a bullied victim provokes a beating by finally hitting the bully

      That's very original, Hophme. I wonder why nobody has yet hit upon this brilliant idea of selling a brutal colonial invader as being bullied by the locals. I bet it will work like a charm.

  • If Trump is serious we may be seeing the most significant step in 20 years of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations
    • Eastlake,

      How about when they invaded and destroyed Libya, then Syria, then Venezuela, then staged a putsh and started a civil war in the Ukraine, then started a war against the civilian population of Yemen, then... you get the idea, I hope. Meanwhile, back at the ranch they committed billion-time repeated severe violations of the Constitution, canceled the First and Fourth and so on, tortured, continue to torture, and before I forget it was your darling Emperor Obama who suddenly decided to definitely cancel the rule of law by declaring that he had assumed the powers to murder -I mean plain and simple murder One-- on his sole say-so. We'll skip totally insignificant BS like passing the entire cost of health (non-)insurance to the working class with Romneycare, the new face of the cop's open war against the civilian population, and so on.

      Mooser is suggesting that these pages are a good place to attack each other on things other than Palestine, as per some "About" page, but let's get back to Palestine and note that your Democrats and Republicans are not just accessories to Zionism's crimes against humanity in Palestine --they are principals. First-person stakeholders and combatants.

      Legislative, schmegislative.

    • Eastlake

      Let’s focus on real world policies and actions being pursued by these two parties

      That's precisely what I am doing. Their real world policies and actions are conspiracies and crimes against peace and war crimes, the same ones for which the Nazi government was hanged, for which obeying orders was also defined a crime against humanity, for which the US committed itself, through Justice Jackson's statement, to hanging future criminals against peace even if they happen to be Americans.

      ... instead of these sensationalised ramblings?

      A typically Democrat-or-Republican rejection of all human decency.

    • ...and was it not the Democrats who have been the worst criminals against peace and war criminals so far in our history, supporting, then pardoning and doubling down on the Republicans' wars of aggression? It's absolutely revolting to see a shameless, outspoken eulogy of these mass-murderers, war criminals and administrators of worldwide monopoly capitalism here. It's not as if this site was lacking in either Zionists or Democrats, but at least the latter usually are ashamed of belonging to their Mafia.

      There may be after all a small difference between Democrats and Republicans: the latter, being incompetent, may well represent the lesser evil (for people who believe there is such a thing.) This being said, better not start this kind of polemic on this site, as we are supposed to leave our hats at the door and only try to work out how to support Palestinian resistance. Or something like that.

  • In groundbreaking resolution, California Democratic Party decries US support for Israeli occupation
    • Talknic,

      Congratulations for formulating so well the problem with the Zionist entity. It's worth repeating over and over again::

      While one side refuses to adhere to International Law and the UN Charter, there will be no peace.
      ...A thinking person would realize that theft of territory will bring war. ... that any government who encourages its citizens to illegally settle in territories outside of the state they govern, is criminal.

      That fully applies not only to the present-day Zionist entity but also to the Partition itself and to the very existence of the Zionist entity.

      Best start lobbying for Israel to adhere to its legal obligations

      Sure, that's so likely to work. No one thought about doing that in the last 70 years.
      Your own undefeatable logic as quoted above necessarily indicates that the first/main legal obligation of what you call "Israel" is to undo itself. Its birth certificate is fake.

      There is no human logic by which one can justify any existence of the Zionist entity while at the same time denying the legality of its further conquests.

  • Trump may want a deal, but Israeli Jews are not interested
    • Mayhem, the well-named, seems to be as typical a Zionist as you can produce.

      "Democracy"? Well, affirming that the Zionist entity has "democracy" only makes it worse by a multiple.

      The people in Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy had an excuse: they couldn't vote as in a so-called democracy and could always invoke duress. Some of them even managed to sound thoroughly believable in their plea not to confuse the German/Italian people and their criminal-against-humanity governments.

      The Meistervolk invaders have a large measure of democracy among themselves, that of illegal invaders that excludes entirely all the conquered people under their boot to whom they are Sparta rather than democracy.

      So the Meistervolk population in Palestine have absolutely no excuse, as opposed to the populations of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, etc. The Meistervolk occupiers are collectively fully guilty of every single crime against humanity committed by their "Jewish State" government. The vote proves without any discussion that they are criminals against humanity and war criminals themselves, to the tune of some 92% or even higher. Each single one of them. Some of them, the few that vote but managed to avoid military service and direct participation in any high crimes, might perhaps be characterized as accessories only --not much of a consolation. In the US, accessories usually count as just as guilty as the principals.

      So this is what the "Israel" abomination's democracy means.

    • And if they had that "right"? What then?

      The eternal cheek of asking Palestinians, living on their own land, to have to ask a pirate invader from Bielorussia or Bessarabia in order to be able to stay in their own fathers' home, in a city where the very presence of the Bessarabian invader is a war crime, where that presence is not even recognized by the invaders' own colonial sponsors and allies.

      No citizen of the fake state of "Israel" has any right to even be present in Jerusalem. Why even debate a Hophmi on such "citizenship" requests?

  • Internet 'redresses' Miri Regev's 'capture of Jerusalem' themed gown at Cannes
    • Excellent observations, Annie.
      On every point on which all Zionists are not agreed, sure, there will be contradictory politics.

      On the "implode" (word that you used), or destruction of the Zionist entity, or at least of leaving it to its own devices without any support from the superpower, it sure looks as if there is a total consensus of all Zionist factions. Not only that: as with other vital interests of imperialist monopoly capital, the comedy of a supposed democratic process in the US will be subverted and a coup d'État organized when the Zionist order is threatened. Just as the one that just happened after the last presidential election over the war against Russia.

      As with my holding court or not and waiting until you are talking to me, nuts. Just censor everybody who speaks without being called by the teacher...

  • DC and Jerusalem reel over Trump disclosure of ISIS plan to-- hush!-- put laptop bombs on planes
    • Keith,

      A celebration of the total victory by the (now official) alliance Democrats, Republicans, the Alphabet Soup and the war profiteers can only make the dictatorship more unopposed. Especially so if it easily defeats, as it is bound to, the nominally most powerful person in America. Look at it any which way there's no sign of anything disruptive to the Empire in that.
      It won't be any favor to the Palestinian people either, as the Dim allies are definitely the most dangerous.

  • Collective post-traumatic stress disorder – Jews, apartheid and oppression
    • Hughes,

      Here goes an unrequested Part II; I am sure you are bitterly regretting having asked anything but yours were very good questions that invite thinking (even by the thinking-impaired like me.)

      Is he saying more than that people who were Jewish were once treated so unjustly that it is easily possible for self-interested and powerseeking persons to induce by certain techniques an unreasonable degree of fear, to which an effective antidote would be an integrated education system?

      Yo're dam' tootin' he is saying more. One thing he's not saying but should have said at the start is that his posited "Jewish" people is the exceptional people. That long history of suffering and bullying is a story of religious persecutions, according to place and regime, and for the life of me I can't see what is so invariably worse or unusual about the Jews than about the Nestorians and the Arians and the Paulicians and the Bogumils and the Shi'a and the Baha'i and the Hashisheen and the Anabaptists and the Cathares and the... wait, wait, if there is one exceptionally, ubiquitously persecuted "people" in that strange acception, it is my "people", that of the Atheists. Period.

      And yes, of course the memory of any persecution is carefully preserved, constantly pulled out and polished, and lathered up and used for propaganda purposes by each and every surviving community's elders or otherwise politicians. Duh. Big discovery there. Not. That's something everybody, including even the Zionist, agrees upon. The only reason it was worth an article seems to be the opportunity to insert one more unquestioned mentions of a religion as "a people", with an unquestioned reaffirmation of exceptionality as the eternal victims.

      Now, this is not related at all to the WWII genocide, which was obviously racial and racist in order to answer the needs of the Reich. If the discussion were about the WWII genocide, it would not even start being usable to explain Zionism, started a hundred years earlier, in the 19th century, within the same nasty egg as German Romantic nationalism, only without Blut or Boden to hatch it.

      In fact, when we are done simplifying this equation of all its absurdity and redundancy, it all boils down to a statement that the Meistervolk invaders in occupied Palestine are manipulated, held hostage and incited to crime by irrational fears of a genocide, one that they would not be committing as they now are, but undergoing. Nothing about the ages of Jewish persecutions but just 1942-45. Well, that is somewhat correct of course, but being the target of propaganda does not absolve thinking individuals any better than the treaty of Versailles would have excused NSDAP supporters of yore. Understanding and helping the poor, suffering, propagandized, put-upon invader pirates and murderers and war criminals is definitely not a priority over getting rid of the beast (right now still peacefully doable with plane and ship tickets.)

    • Maghlawatan,

      Being born on forbidden soil to invader, pirate parents who knowingly drag children into a war zone, and being marked from birth as subject to compulsive "duty" to criminals against humanity to serve as a uniformed war criminal can hardly be described as "normal".

      In fact, even though entire populations cannot be charged and tried for crimes against peace and war crimes, parents can and should be prosecuted for reckless endangering for bringing minors to war zones or begetting them there.

  • 100 senators throw their bodies down to end UN 'bias' against Israel
    • Not only that. He's been a fanatic Zionist from the start, only not of the Likud flavor. So there's a sincere genocidal conviction there, alongside the populist opportunism of promising income redistribution financed by war of aggression, in the best "Democrat" tradition. The way you do it is you loudly hawk the former while playing deaf-and-dumb about the latter, and hope that whenever you're forced to break the silence it will soon be forgotten. Some special savior of the people, our "Labour" Bernie.

  • True independence on Nakba Day: accountability and healing as an Israeli aggressor
    • Annie,
      No contest: I, too, find the inner problems of invaders and aggressors fascinating. I also find them useful sometimes in trying to bring them to destroy each other.

      What I object to is 1) the mixing of issues of justice and resistance with this "understanding", 2) the hammering of a sympathetic "understanding" that is an obvious invitation to (perhaps unconsciously) establish definitively as an unquestioned right, he continued presence of the invaders on Palestinian soil, as if it were something already authorized by the invaded people; 3) the presentation of this "understanding" as no different than sympathizing with the enemy in times of war, and it is war --not a "war of ideas".

      About the rest of your message, I certainly don't see the author here as enemy; on the contrary he is clearly in sympathy with the invaded. I have no beef with is published studies either, with which I am somewhat familiar (except perhaps some serious doubts on the clinical significance of the big soup of different phenomena mingled together as "epigenetics", but that's totally outside what we're discussing.) What I cannot agree to is his statements about the significance or necessity of understanding the enemy, and his presenting the Zionist presence as if it were a done deal. There is still a lot of war to be done. In fact, resistance has barely started.

    • Annie,

      If so, we are agreed. Formulas are used to simplify expression. Just expand it to every level, but still the only reason to sympathize with a Zionist is if he is no longer one and actively works to defeat his side.

      The essential thing is, this is a war, a real boom-boom war, and there are more important things than kissing and shmoozing with a hugely overwhelming enemy. Deserters among the dominant side are sorely needed but many who try to present themselves as "sympathetic" to the weaker side are the enemy.

  • Map map on the wall, who's most existing of them all?
    • Jeff seems to have found his matching word-weaseler in Talknic. Call it "civil war", and all of a sudden the colonial shock troops that England amassed and armed for 30 years for just such an operation, that of keeping control when the time would come to relinquish the so-called fake mandate, become 'rebels'. Abracadabra! All responsibilities disappear. The colonial overlord is now a disinterested observer, the Zionist genocidal riffraff is magically cleansed of all crimes of their pre-47 life (by having been baptized, full-immersion born-again in the stolen water of the Jordan, no less) because, you see, they were no state actors before becoming state actors, and their new state, the English-American bastard, is suddenly held immune...

      End result: you aren't supposed to destroy that abomination because all that wordplay has made it untouchable. It's still a genocidal vipers' nest of illegal intruders but they have been hallowed and anointed, so continue being slaves.

      The best part is to observe the extent of the disagreement: one wants to keep all of it, the other one "only" 56%. No Palestinians anywhere except if US-approved.

  • How grassroots activists defeated anti-BDS legislation in Maryland
    • "Compelling" for whom? Not me. No legal declaration of war. No judiciary decision. Just a government preference... doesn't cut it, no reason yet to bypass the constitution. Have it out with moron lawyers.

  • 'Why do I not cry out for the right of return?' -- an exchange between Uri Avnery and Salman Abu Sitta
    • However, prior to Israeli statehood, it was a civil war. Pre-state Jewish terrorists occupied and dispossessed people from territories that were in the provisionally recognized state of Palestine.

      Civil war my ass. The colonial overlord, instead of truly administering its mandate per the ostentated principles of the LoN, had filled it to the brim with declaredly hostile settlers that were let loose on the only legitimate population.

      A state that didn’t exist at the time cannot possibly be held responsible for crimes committed before it existed

      Shysterly bullshit. That state is the planned result of the colonial aggression and consisted of the same actors. Where do you think you are, in some courtroom where such nonsense acrobatics may be accepted by some sold judges? Go tell this crap to the masses massacred and expelled since 1948 and let's see how convinced they are!

      It's propaganda to spout a figure as though it's evidence for Palestinians wanting to return all 6 or 7 million refugees to Israel.

      And what would be wrong with that? They are all Palestinian and it's their right to settle anywhere in Palestine if they so choose. The illegal immigrants are everywhere and the Palestinians have every right to ask them to get out.

      It is quite simply NOT what UNGA res 194 (1948) calls for

      It's nice to ask for implementation of UN resolutions and that one is better than nothing but it still isn't one the Palestinian people agreed to.

  • I am not a jew
    • John S,

      You still don't get it. Where it says,

      "the absence of prosecution and punishment for low-level actors is being twisted into a perverse interpretation: that the physical torturers and executioners and support personnel, i.e. the ridiculous fiction that the little bastards who make any war crime possible are not guilty", the last phrase means just your good self.

    • Falic,

      Your point about who gets effectively prosecuted for crimes against humanity is extremely relevant.

      In practice, only the top tier of leaders get indicted and punished (if ever), as the action is rather symbolic. I can understand that going after each participant is highly impractical. It would probably paralyze society.

      Only, the absence of prosecution and punishment for low-level actors is being twisted into a perverse interpretation: that the physical torturers and executioners and support personnel, i.e. the ridiculous fiction that the little bastards who make any war crime possible are not guilty. That absurdity must be resoundingly rejected. Thank you for contributing to that.

      Anyway, deserters who turn against the criminal camp have done as much if not more than what is necessary to remedy the situation, so they should never be included. You cannot include yourself in this.

  • Love of Israel + Defense of Trump = Meshuggeneh
    • Just noting that I didn't say that Mr Weiss specifically kowtowed to Ms Powers. The sentence is "where were his biting criticism and his denunciations when criminals against peace and war criminals like Obama, the Empress, Power, etc. were being applauded to, kowtowed to and lionized by the same actors plus a lot of other murderous Zionists and even “Nonzionists”?"

    • Agreed with Keith, it's obvious. But there seems to be a problem with Weiss: where were his biting criticism and his denunciations when criminals against peace and war criminals like Obama, the Empress, Power, etc. were being applauded to, kowtowed to and lionized by the same actors plus a lot of other murderous Zionists and even "Nonzionists"? For example when we were raping Libya, say?

      How serious is all this?

  • Passover has become little more than an act of communal hypocrisy
    • John S,

      As a willing and proud accessory to tens of thousands of outright murders, you should talk.
      Also, if you don't want accidents to happen to illegal occupiers just don't move civilians to a war zone illegally. That simple.
      Also, if you want to protect yourself jump in the next plane and go back to the US. Our loss.

  • 'This miracle, this gift, this jewel' -- Obama's ambassador to Israel declares he's a Zionist
    • Talknic,

      Only, you still didn’t produce that plebiscite."
      You're ridiculous. THERE ISN'T ONE! You've said as much yourself. You want me to produce something that doesn't exist?

      Halleluiah. Looks like you start getting it. Or not?

      Of course there is no such plebiscite! That's what I have been pointing out all the time.

      In its absence, Zionist invaders can only lift all occupation and constraints and ask for a proper plebiscite, where they have no voice, hoping that the result perhaps authorizes some of them to stay (perhaps after giving guarantees of loyalty as Palestinian citizens?) Or just get the hell out.

      Because, as you say so yourself,

      “The acquisition of territory by war is inadmissible” The notion of self determination was Customary International Law some years before Israel ever existed and; no such referendum has ever been conducted in any of the territories Israel has acquired by war"

      Well guess what, all the territory of that "Israel" abomination has been acquired by war. Every single f. inch. Not one inch that you can continue to see as "Israel" or whatever the fancy Zionist name.

      If we leave justice for a moment and talk real world, well a plebiscite is of course a pipe dream but still the only bloodless way out --and as such to be highly recommended.

      Considering what we have seen so far of the sense of justice of invaded and occupied populations, there are necessarily only two stable alternatives in the absence of such a plebiscite: either reinstatement of Palestine or a successful genocide of the owners, American-style or worse. A solution as in Algeria now sounds too optimistic now. As for any compromise solutions, they can't be more stable than with the current phantom "state" and its puppets. There is a reason invasion was described as "inadmissible".

    • Talknic,

      Might be best tho for Israelis to stick to living in Israel instead of illegally settling in non-Israeli territories illegally acquired by war by the Jewish state since proclaiming its borders effective at 00:01 May 15th 1948.

      What part of illegally settled, illegally acquired by war, illegally proclaimed and illegally recognized "Israel" is legal, as opposed to "non-Israeli territories illegally acquired by war". You forgot to say.

      Is it not true that the Zionist Federation decided in 1897 [to] set up the Jewish COLONIAL Trust in order to specifically colonize Palestine and that they loaned money to specifically poor Jews (specifically at interest ) on condition that they put themselves on the front lines in Palestine to further the Zionist Colonization process?

      Is it not equally true that the British Empire illegally invaded Palestine with these declaredly hostile Zionist hordes in breach of its fiduciary obligations and, together with the other COLONIAL powers, illegally approved the illegal 1948 declaration of independence by these colonial invaders, violating the very UN Chart?

      Rejecting the 1965 conquest while recognizing a legitimacy to the 1947/48 one is impossible. You are attempting a squaring of the circle: no can do.

  • Read the full translated text of the leaked Hamas charter
    • Eljay,

      Hamas’ acceptance of a two-state solution means nothing if its clearly-stated ultimate goal is to reclaim all of geographic Palestine.

      You confirm what I was just saying, viz.

      you still have trouble understanding the difference between a forced compromise and a basic, inalienable right

      worse, in fact: you just seem to be totally alien to a very elementary concept. I do not believe that comedy, by the way, and start to strongly suspect that it's serving a propaganda goal.

      Your totally ridiculous smear, by the way:

      It is in the same way that your primary goal is the definitive mass slaughter of every Jew in Palestine.

      , is not compatible with anything I have ever written here. I have underlined that the Zionist invaders have no right to be in Palestine without a permission by the owners of the land, i.e. the Palestinian people as of the date of declaration of hostile takeover intent by the Zionist. Period. No mass slaughter or anything regarding the Jewish religion was recommended, suggested or proposed. In fact, the only thing proposed is a valid plebiscite of the Palestinian people. Of course, suicidal war and violence may achieve their end, but that's another question.

      Let's hear it clearly, now. Does Eljay propose that the Zionist invaders of Palestine (DBA "Israel" now) have a right to be on Palestinian "mandate" territory at all without a fully representative authorization of the Palestinian people? (I didn't say authorization by colonial powers or their politician puppets.) Yes, no, or maybe.

      Does Eljay consider that the Zionist propaganda slogan about mass slaughter of the Jews if the Palestinian people are free to decide is true? Yes, no or maybe.

  • 'I came to explore the wreck of Zionism': A report from the 2017 JVP meeting
    • Pabelmont, I would add that Nazism was stamped to the ground in 1945. Much more was done then to eradicate fascist aggression than is done today (we reward richly all major war criminals and criminals against peace nowadays.)

      The pirate Zionist entity attacked in 1947 and declared itself a state in 1948. So how in hell or heaven should "Israel" be "necessary"?

      It's not a question of size. The very presence of any Zionists there in 1945 after the defeat of Nazi Germany, except for legitimate war refugees waiting to be repatriated, remains illegal.

    • Talking about a wreck waaay before it's destroyed would have been seen as pep talk in the chickens-before-hatching category if it were the only problem. This declaration comes before her organization has clearly declared war to Zionism. It has not made amends for its despicable witchhunt against Weir, Berlin, Atzmon and other steadfast enemies of Zionism.

  • New book by Larry Derfner, the American-turned-Israeli journalist, crushes liberal Zionism
    • Watan,

      There is a lot to discuss in what you said --I was just pointing out the fact that Ed Koch and the Zio spokesman Jeff B clearly say, making a good case, that this varmint is military auxiliary personnel, and who am I to contradict such experts?

      Also, as you so nicely say, settler colonialism is a war crime and there is a very good reason these people are not protected under Geneva. So the finer distinctions are moot.

    • Maghlawatan,

      Are you following the discussion or some other thought of yours?
      Jeff has confirmed, citing a well-informed article by Ed Koch, that post-1967 ununiformed/paramilitary invaders, aka "settlers", were placed there, in what constitutes a war crime, to act as support personnel to the military invaders. The thinking behind their presence, as exposed by Koch, was inaugurated by the Nazi civilian settlements in Poland, Czechoslovakia etc. These "settlers" are "logistics" personnel according to JeffB. I tend to agree. If a particular one is armed or not on a given day doesn't make any difference.

      A single conclusion forces itself: These guys. Are. Not. Civilians. They are military support personnel, i.e. part of the occupation army. No discussion possible. Dragging there the occasional true civilian, e.g. a minor or a non-combatant civilian, is a major war crime committed by the respective settler who should be held accountable for it, just as much as the Zionist entity government.

  • Palestinian-American teacher brutally attacked by Jewish Defense League outside AIPAC conference
    • Annie,

      "Old scabs"? There is an ongoing or completed takeover by Dims and establishment Pukes and the whole police state alphabet soup to force a war on Russia and a lot of other places. Even if it were not so, allying oneself with any Dim or Puke warmongers completely cancels any point one's trying to make. Of course the Donald never meant to do anything serious in the way of moderating the war push and of course some of the racists under the Democrat dictatorship are piping down now because otherly politicized racists are feeling triumphant and talking more. So what --where's the difference?

      Besides, Kay is a notorious Dim propagandist, so saying "ignoring someone’s point/argument" does not apply in the least.

    • RoHa,

      A little update on these here States is in order.
      Evidence is out of fashion, replaced by the word of the Democrat party. The same one that has been waging war against the Palestinian people all these years.

  • Victim's daughter responds to anti-Arab attack in Oregon: 'I don’t want this to be considered a hate crime'
    • Not to mention the little detail of the bitterly-fought-for circumcision honoraria, duly medicalized and made routine for most Goys in our post-war hospitals. I don't know how much they are billed today but every little bit and sliver helps.

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