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  • Syrian death tolls and the kinder gentler jihadists
    • Yes your comprehension skills must be lacking if you cannot understand your own spurious arguments. Propagandists always shift the basis of their 'argument' when challenged on their unverifiable claims.

    • Logic isn't your strong point, is it? Telling us about the Syrian casualties is not a response to the dubious, unproven nature of your claim.

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    • False claims, incoherent arguments, slurs, random ridiculous juxtapositions, and nothing to do with the thoughtfully written piece above. Just another day in silamsez's one man campaign to divert the topic to some ragbag of random statements in support of untrustworthy and deceitful politicians and repressive regimes. And never a sourced, referenced backup for the wacky comic book statements.

      thanks, Donald, for attempting to shed some light on this quagmire of claims and the stove piping of partisan information into various media. As you probably know, Israel is once again trying to manipulate Syria by supporting ISIS, quite incredibly, given its faux concern for innocent people's lives.

  • 'Why do you have Arabic in this notebook?': 17-year-old American student strip searched and interrogated in Ben Gurion airport
    • Disgusting. This has nothing whatsoever to do with security, and everything to do with deliberate , sadistic humiliation and harassment. Absolutely par for the course in Israel. Their pathetic ignorance and prejudice about Arabs and Palestinians, or indeed anybody outside of the sect, is proof enough of their insular, narrow education and outlook. What is worst is their assumption that they have the right to behave so prejudicially and and with such spiteful, calculated cruelty. That picture is so Orwellian and forbidding - no 'welcome' could be so threatening - it fits perfectly their attitude.

  • Clinton Foundation's 'good friend' Bahrain quashed Arab spring without protest from Sec'y Clinton
    • Are you a Clinton staffer, or on drugs? Who on earth has that absurdly hyperbolic view of her, outside of some cult of acolytes? So now you are a defender of Gulf oligarchs and Hillary at the same time claiming you care about justice and human rights? Nobody in their right mind could make that equation. i can't take you seriously, this is ridiculous. Your are just taking the mickey. That is your 'benefit' to this site.

    • justicewillprevail August 27, 2016 at 4:43 pm

      Yes, I have been to Qatar, which was extremely educational, and is nothing like the paradise you claim in your fantasy. Just google human rights there, or talk to any of the construction workers, but beware of getting them in trouble.

    • So now you're a shill for Clinton (the 'white supremacist'). lol, willingly turn a blind eye to the repression in Bahrain. And repeat the zionist hysteria about Qatar, of which evidence they tout the funding of one conference, yikes. Qatar, btw, a similarly repressive regime to Bahrain. But that's ok with you.. Too funny. Do make your mind up.

  • The Palestine-Israel language trap
    • justicewillprevail August 22, 2016 at 6:18 pm

      Wow, silamc, you are spectacularly offensive. No surprise there, your ignorance is only superseded by your gross lack of manners, and selfish braying. Avigail is one of the most thoughtful, compassionate contributors here and is highly valued for her eloquent insight, developed from her own experiences. That you fail to understand or engage with it, and react so violently and abusively tells us a lot about you. Even funnier, you are the one who is constantly trying to impose your absurd rewriting of history on everybody else., as if you alone had worked it all out, and condescend to lecture us all on your nonsense theories. Your agenda is transparent, troll and divert, with your crackpot, comic book theories, and fake persona. you could learn a lot from someone like Avigail, but you never will. You are way out of your juvenile depth. You owe her an apology, but I don't expect you even understand how misogynist and racist you come off as.

  • The last Gaza war worried Scotland's Jews-- for all the wrong reasons
    • justicewillprevail August 18, 2016 at 7:54 pm

      Why do they do it?

      Malice, spite, vindictiveness, envy, hatred, demonstration of their power and its absolute rule without accountability, control, to silence people, prevent discussion and education or dissemination of the truth, intimidation, bullying, humiliation, harassment, theft, sadism, ethnic cleansing, destruction of institutions and punishment of articulate, talented Palestinians.

      Everything they have been doing for decades, but would prefer the world not to hear about, and will mete out these cruel and vindictive punishments to accomplish their goal of silencing Palestinians and their supporters.

      And they have the gall to set up in Edinburgh to 'promote understanding'. It's ok, we understand only too well.

    • And if you need any more reasons why decent people in Scotland dislike Israel and its oppressive, ruthless apartheid behaviour:

      Punished for visiting Scotland and illustrating the nature of the israeli regime.
      And they set up stalls to promote peace and love - lol.

  • Clinton forces dig in against changes to Democratic platform on Israel
  • Most Jews want to expel Palestinians -- Pew's ugly portrait of Israel
    • I daresay there will be an article about it, but this is wonderful news:

      "The Duke of Cambridge has paid tribute to the “incredible work” of the teaching profession as a Nobel-style award worth $1m was handed to a teacher from Palestine.

      Hanan al-Hroub, who works with children who have grown up exposed to violence, was given the second annual Global Teacher prize at a star-studded ceremony in Dubai."

      "Hroub grew up in the Bethlehem refugee camp, and was regularly exposed to violence. She went into primary education after her own children were left traumatised from witnessing a shooting on their way home from school."

      Even better how the Israelis will have to acknowledge her, through their bitter, clenched teeth, lol.

  • Are Palestinian citizens of Israel banned from New York Times headlines?
    • justicewillprevail January 17, 2016 at 8:44 am

      I hope he gets kissed by a Palestinian guy, like the Time Out video. that would be sweet. Post us up a picture, Jacky.

  • 'Netanyahu at War' on PBS was dreadful but not without interest
  • Israel vs the Violin
    • There is something deeply depraved, perverse and numbly inhuman about these people who think it is a sport to smash musical instruments, shoot footballers in the legs, harass writers, academics and set out to humiliate just about anyone who demonstrates an ability to rise above the station these callous, cruel sadists have allotted to them. Years of indoctrination have told them that Palestinians do not exist, they are sub-human, they have no culture and it is the Israeli's right to treat them like dogs. So when a gentle, inoffensive musician artist or anybody who has achieved something presents themselves to their prison guards the lip-curling contempt is obvious - they are not allowed to be independent, thinking, creative human beings with a real culture. This contradicts everything the guards have absorbed, and to believe otherwise threatens their whole narrow-minded,rigid cult beliefs, so what better response than to smash the evidence in front of them and restore their crackpot worldview and impose their perceived right to abuse 'inferior' people. It is despicable, cowardly, bullying behaviour which betrays their inadequacy and inability to see others outside the tribe as equal human beings with something to offer. It makes me ill.

      But I take my hat off to people like Tom who persist in the face of this systematic cruelty and vindictiveness, and especially to Palestinians who demonstrate a dignity and ability to rise above this abuse, demonstrating a humanity entirely absent, or bred out of, their guards.

  • The extremism of the center in Israel
    • justicewillprevail August 2, 2015 at 2:55 pm

      What a gross insult that is to the Irish Jon s, as I am sure you will agree.

    • justicewillprevail August 2, 2015 at 7:16 am

      Ahem, Ben-Gurion Airport, FFS.

      "We will expel the Arabs and take their places… with the forces at our disposal." The squatters are only following in his footsteps.

  • Israeli gov't support for violent occupation made today's murder inevitable
    • justicewillprevail August 3, 2015 at 7:58 am

      Poor hops. His attention-seeking vanity has been spurned. An unsourced claim which didn't debunk anything was ignored. Oh, the shame!

  • Leading American writer Abulhawa is denied entry to Palestine
    • justicewillprevail August 4, 2015 at 8:08 pm

      If you can't see the gross insensitivity of your grandstanding and the inappropriate nature of inviting yourself without approval then you are beyond any redemption.

    • justicewillprevail August 2, 2015 at 12:58 pm

      Thanks for the link to the Nureddin Amro story, Kris. Another shameful and vile addition to the catalogue of Israeli crimes against humanity. Blind men who are doing good work - such a threat to the fabric of the Jewish state that they must be punished, humiliated and made homeless, having committed the crime of owning and living in their house long before the new Jewish colonisers were even born. Are you praying for them too, Jon s, and the tens of thousands of others made homeless, attacked, killed and imprisoned without trial? Or do you prefer to remain silent, look the other way, and profess your selective sympathy for the headline cases?

    • justicewillprevail July 31, 2015 at 5:56 am

      She is not holding the border guard's roots against her, but angrily and justifiably pointing out the hypocrisy of being denied entry because of her roots.
      In your tortuous analogy, the crime committed against you would be because of your roots and nothing else. Even you might find that hypocritical as a German with German family being denied the right to enter the country and visit them, by someone who has immigrated and is a recent citizen, while your family have been there for centuries. The border guards are making it about 'roots', not Susan.

    • justicewillprevail July 30, 2015 at 9:05 pm

      Any country in the world which discriminated against visitors, particularly preventing those visiting indigenous family, on purely ethnic grounds, ignoring their citizenship, would be held up to animosity, ridicule and challenges to their blatant racism. They would be even more isolated and despised if this extended to areas which that country does not even recognise as under its sovereignty, and would be subject to general opprobrium, as well as legal and diplomatic challenges. Which country, other than Israel does this, since you claim it acts just like any other state?

    • Palestinians must suffer daily humiliation and denial of the right to visit their homeland and relatives by being nice and polite. Yes, that will make a difference to the border guards. Not. You are also unaware of the nature of extended families in cultures other than your own. Dispensing faux moralising from your comfy armchair is so generous of you. It has escaped your notice that a German citizen of Turkish origin has the same rights as any other German citizen - there is no comparison to the Palestinian situation, unless you reconstruct your analogy so the German Turkish person has kicked you out of your home, denied you basic human rights and refuses to let you enter the country to visit your relatives. Ethnicity is not the issue.

    • Where do those teenage jerks in uniforms learn to be so offensive and assume the jackboot powers they have no right to? Where do they learn to disrespect people older and with far more status and rights than they have? Who tells them and teaches them you can treat Palestinians with such contempt and vile cruelty? I don't believe any such behaviour comes naturally to anybody, yet these people are steeped in it, as if they have been conditioned all of their lives to cover their sense of guilt and inferiority with such brutal behaviour, sanctioned by their superiors who teach them that the routine humiliation and crushing of the dignity of any Palestinian is what is expected of them. And what gives israel any right whatsoever to police a Palestinian border, unless it is in co-operation with Palestinian border control? If that is the border maybe they should 'fess up and admit the annexation of Palestine, which will entail granting them equal rights and the vote. What a bunch of lying little tinpot tyros. The only threat Susan Abulhawa poses to them is a superior intellect, eloquence and a deep connection to the culture of the land they occupy and thus are desperate to deny. Such is the banality of evil.

  • Pelosi says Iran deal has the votes, and Podhoretz urges Israel to attack Iran
    • justicewillprevail July 31, 2015 at 7:13 am

      Lol, you excel in right wing drivel. Many many promises by the mullahs eh? Just quote us a few then. Ooh, you are just pining for that 'right' to destroy an enemy, any enemy will do, even a manufactured one. Who's playing here, and who is not very bright?

  • Sheldon Adelson bankrolls NBA player trip to Israel to fight BDS
  • Israeli forces kill third Palestinian in less than a week
    • justicewillprevail July 31, 2015 at 8:11 am

      Just listening to the PR-driven wringing of hands by Regev is nauseating. When the IDF burst into a family home at 3am and shoot boys that isn't terrorism and the perpetrators are not tried and put in jail. What is the difference? No price tag graffiti on the house? He isn't dragged on to international media outlets to make excuses? Where is the pre-emption that Israel tells us is necessary to defend people - the spying on the squatters, the midnight raids, the cutting off their water, the restrictions on their travel, the demolition of their houses? What are they doing to root out the terrorists, and put them in jail on suspicion and forced confessions?
      Not to mention, of course, the savage bombing of homes and hospitals last summer - no, he wasn't in the least sorry about that either. He is very selective about what he saves his entirely staged sympathy for.

  • 'This is our Israel, this is for the Jews. No Palestinian should come to Israel': A Palestinian-American's story of being detained at Ben Gurion airport
    • justicewillprevail July 30, 2015 at 6:16 pm

      Let's see: we have to believe either the word of Dr Khoury, documented in meticulous detail and with eloquent passion , or the blatherings of an anonymous teenage troll who lives an apparently sheltered life, never having heard the typical insults of many Israelis. And one who is blithely unaware of the entry requirements at Ben Gurion. Perhaps it escaped his notice that the Dr's companion was allowed entry with the same documents.

    • This is a shocking story of abuse, even if one in a long line of similar stories. The arrogance and lawlessness of these petty functionaries in their fascist system is disgraceful. Why on earth should the US stand by and not act to ensure its own citizens have the right of passage which these appalling Israelis will enjoy should they come to the US? The open racism, the treatment of civilians as criminals, the callous disregard for their wellbeing and the looting of their personal possessions is symptomatic of a state utterly out of control. Just what are they scared of in a US priest coming for a holiday to their benighted country? What exactly do they think he will do that they treat him with such vile behaviour? He, whose family have far more right to inhabit and welcome visitors than these recent immigrants will ever have, represents the past they want to disown and bury. Deeming Palestinian as a racial category which transcends his US citizenship only exposes their racist views of everybody, and their state's endorsement of apartheid.
      Yet, shamefully, the US allows this to happen. Its representatives are in thrall to this uniquely vile bureaucracy, and in doing so betray their own country and its citizens, as represented here by Father Koury. Every time i see that picture above it makes me shudder - the Orwellian, totalitarian appearance with the most sinister, ironic and plainly false 'Welcome to Israel' is a monument to their crushing inhumanity and blank indifference towards the world at large.

  • In wake of January attacks, French Muslims have been demonized in manufactured 'clash of civilizations'
    • justicewillprevail July 31, 2015 at 5:24 am

      DS, the only primitive thing here is your thinking. I would call the base justifications for racial superiority you have elaborated, and as enthusiastically promoted by the various forms of fascism, as about as primitive as you can get. Survival of the fittest, might is right, social darwinism were all features of the ethno-nationalism you espouse as justification for zionism. Chuck in some dubious religious and cultural founding myths and you have a nice recipe for fascism and a justification for the violent elimination of your 'inferior' civilisations.
      In that light you will be totally comfortable with the horrific burning of a child by Israeli squatters since they are merely, in your words. 'animals' at heart and since they are more Western and powerful, not inherently evil, simply using their superior strength and organisation to use violence against 'inferior' people.
      Make no mistake, that is where your pathetic justification leads.

    • justicewillprevail July 30, 2015 at 5:53 am

      One last thing, DS. You have admitted you are a troll on this thread, who doesn't bother with the articles, but tries to bait people with your childish hasbrat cliches. On the contrary, it is you who have a lot learn from this site, which has a wealth of points of view, history and personal testimony. But since you never read, you will never open up your mind. You sound like a bored teenager who gets their kicks from baiting people you don't have the capacity to debate with. Bye.

    • Your inane claims, straight out of the child's guide to hasbara, are comical. Israel has nothing in common with modern Western societies, but has plundered the worst values of its past - ethno nationalism which resulted in fascism, racism and colonialism. Israel is no friend of the West but a danger to it, a manipulative subversive regime which sows dissension and hatred, fomenting war and the deaths of innocent people in the region where it resides but can never come to civilised terms with.

    • So you didn't watch the videos or listen to the arguments. Your complete lack of knowledge about European politics is symptomatic of people who want to impose false narratives and exploit tragedies for their own benefit. You're a fine one to start harping on about what people can and cannot say, even if your claims are risible.

  • Time Warner executive moonlights as speechwriter for Netanyahu
    • What cracked me up was the description of N'Yahoo as a 'skilled draftsman'. Almost as funny as the notion that Ginsberg or Oren are in any way 'skilled' speechwriters. The cartoons are reflections of their cartoon view of the world, cartoon words and cartoon ideas. A five-year-old's perception and way of dealing with the world. And we know what tantrums spoilt five-year-olds are prone to when they don't get the attention they want, and are not believed.

  • It's time for American Jews to recognize they have been duped
    • justicewillprevail July 29, 2015 at 2:56 pm

      Yes, DS, Avigail must be suspect because she speaks good English. What are you snidely implying? Perhaps you are not familiar with the concept of intelligence. It appears that way.
      As for the keep it hush-hush nonsense, what a desperate ploy. There is no Jewish 'tribe', just people who happen to be Jewish. So who is this cabal that you insist Avigail is beholden to? Should the truth about the horrendous injustice in Israel be smothered in order to keep the world from knowing about it, as you imply? Or is it to keep it from non-Israelis, many of whom are Jewish, and even Israelis themselves? All you are doing is illustrating Avigail's thesis about the cult mentality. and its desperate need to maintain the illusory support system it is struggling to hold together.

    • Yonah, you wilfully misconstrue and misrepresent what Avigail has said, and then proceed, as usual, to build an elaborate edifice of straw upon which you sit in order to claim that you have an imagined moral high ground. You haven't answered any of her points, but have substituted your own slanted version of her ideas and proceeded to remonstrate with them. You want to define the terms of the dispute in your frame of reference and ignore Avigail's, thus demanding she fits into your world view where you can do the lecturing. You are tilting at windmills and want the approval of the crowd. It's the same old attitude you see repeated endlessly here by zionists.
      BTW you either don't know the meaning of the word 'polemic' or are just attempting a cheap shot at denigrating her very thoughtful and consistently well-argued pieces. You could learn a lot if you dropped the defensive posturing and opened up to listen to what she is saying. Then you might have some dialogue and communication.

    • Avigail, the html format is to preface the text you want with backward and forward arrows which contain the command you want. i is for italics, so placing that inside the arrows will start the italics command. Placing a backslash before the i tells it the command is cancelled. So you end the passage you want with backslash i inside the arrows . It isn't possible to simply type the language here because it will ignore the arrows and backslashes as if it were syntax and not commentary. If you google html syntax there are lots of examples. Using a b, for example, instead of an i, will produce bold text.

    • Scotland - "a pro-Palestinian stronghold". That's funny. Now I know you haven't a clue what you are talking about. But in time-honoured fashion seek to denigrate where Abigail lives, as if that compromised her message, none of which you have been able to address. How the hasbrats make fools of themselves time and again.

    • It's neither a paradox nor a contradiction. It's just you wallowing in your insufferable sense of victimhood combined with an arrogant belief in your superiority. Or, " pity us, we are the worlds victims, and if you don't agree and let us have our own way we will attack you viciously". It's the reflex tantrum of a bully.

    • Another great article, full of conviction, clear thinking and accuracy. Thanks Abigail. No doubt the usual whiners will be along to divert and deny, but they are no match for the power of this kind of testimony. You can feel every sentence bristling with sadness and anger at the perversion and manipulation of Jewish identity for the delusional project of colonial settler politics. Bravo.

    • justicewillprevail July 25, 2015 at 5:59 pm

      That's all you've got to say? Ridiculous, and deeply revealing.

  • Israeli forces kill West Bank man, 53, when he rushes to aid of sons during night raid
    • justicewillprevail July 29, 2015 at 1:52 pm

      The Israeli fascist militia entered the house at 3am with rifles raised. They refused to say who they were looking for. When they were asked to wait a moment on the stairs for the women to get dressed they opened fire.

      To compound their brutal behaviour, their insufferable indifference to what happened was glossed over with the customary lies and evasions - being asked to wait by, to them, an inferior, worthless human being was too much a defiant insult for them and was described as a 'violent attack' by these cowardly sadists. No-one will be punished for the cold-blooded murders.

  • If Americans support Iran deal, 56-37, what gives Israel the power to 'croak' it?
    • justicewillprevail July 21, 2015 at 3:33 pm

      Way to avoid the question, ignore the article and successfully and spectacularly miss the elephant in the room. lol.

  • Press can't justify red carpet for Oren tract and blackout for Blumenthal's 'definitive account' of Gaza
    • Yes, Annie. A classic zionist in sheep's clothing. And about as convincing. When a zionist starts mentioning 'facts' I reach for a bottle of whisky and a revolver.

    • C'mon Giles. Who is the disingenuous one, studiously ignoring and avoiding the detailed explanations given to you. Denial, eh? You avoid linking to a four-year old poll, which would give lie to your claim. The questions are absurdly slanted in order to virtually guarantee the desired results, the demographic is the one you would expect to give those answers, and the methods carefully omitted. As Annie rightly, comprehensively and courteously points out to you, who ignore it, Luntz and Camera have from with all this nonsense, in order to make their political points. Mooser is also correct - all they have shown is that Israeli supporters support Israel. So enough of the patronising twaddle, there is nothing scientific or objective about this routine rigged poll - no genuine data or 'facts', and you haven't proved a thing.

  • British gov't welcomes Iran back into the 'community of nations' -- why can't we?
    • And your record is what? A litany of incoherent whining on a website. This is inane drivel, even from you. MW knows this and doesn't know that - what on earth are you talking about? MW is a website which publishes a variety of views and links, get your knickers out of the twist you are furiously tying them in.
      If you want to know why this is a good deal there are a bazillion articles from all over the world, any one of which you could avail yourself of. Instead you post the most bizarre, childish prattle which doesn't bear the slightest relevance to the issue. Are you serious? Evidently not. Grow up.

  • Bombers, Blood, and Teddy Bears: Posters from the 2014 war on Gaza
    • justicewillprevail July 15, 2015 at 11:10 am

      Tremendous. Some very powerful images here. Compare with Israel's pathetic cartoons.

  • 'We should seize it' -- Obama announces Iran deal as 'new direction' for the Middle East
    • justicewillprevail July 14, 2015 at 6:28 pm

      C'mon Moose, Hop doesn't do sources. He doesn't need to. He read it in his Big Book of Indisputable Scary Iran Facts, by BB Yahoo, illustrations by Acme. All kindergartens get a free copy.

    • justicewillprevail July 14, 2015 at 5:58 am

      So is Iran allowed to make cartoons about Acme bombs now, just as Yahoo predicted?

  • 'One cannot understand conflict without knowing its victims'
    • justicewillprevail July 17, 2015 at 7:17 pm

      Totally agree with the headline, and the impact of Allison's reporting. Nothing is as important as the stories of incredible hardship, but also incredible dignity, in the lives of people who could be any of us, anywhere. Reclaiming and recovering their stories from the fog and distortions of propaganda is vital, and should stand as an eloquent riposte to all those armchair warmongers, zealots who talk blithely of 'self-defence' and other pathetic justifications. Thanks, Allison.

  • Abe Foxman says goodbye to an America of secret Jew haters
    • justicewillprevail July 15, 2015 at 11:56 am

      So many things wrong with that rather suspect phrase 'Gentiles in America'. I suppose if you have a segregationist mindset, that is how you think. But it's not how the vast majority of Americans or anybody else thinks. As for 'national grouping' it is derived from the same faulty logic, but we all know the underlying premise and its ugly implications. Some people haven't moved on from the 19th century, so invested are they in the notion of separatism and manufactured difference. And no, the Cornish example is not remotely relevant. It comes from the same basic lack of comprehension as the attempt to hijack Scotland the other day. Funny, but no surprise.

  • Et tu, Michael Oren?
    • justicewillprevail July 13, 2015 at 4:56 pm

      Oren and co must be examples of those famous 'self-hating' Jews we keep hearing about. Since they are of American origin, but hold Americans in contempt. Fighting amongst each other is a sign of their insecurity and inability to corral people into their delusional belief system. The cognitive dissonance is too much.

  • Why the Charleston massacre isn't terrorism, and Palestinian resistance always will be
    • justicewillprevail July 11, 2015 at 3:58 pm

      Princess, perhaps you would like to think about the differences between resistance, which is legitimate, and protest. You seem to be mixing them up.

      As far as non-violent protest goes, please look up the case of Rachel Corrie, and see how Israel deals with non-violent protest. And then consider how far you can get with such undoubtedly noble actions. See also the flotillas.

      Why should Mondoweiss or EI tell Palestinians what to do, or admonish them? They do a great job in reporting and analysing information. That alone, in an intimidated, manufactured news environment is invaluable. You, like the readers, can make up your own mind and take whatever action in support of a just cause you find appropriate.

      You are implying that MW somehow damages the Palestinian cause - a claim consistent with hasbara, and as far from the truth as you are likely to get. Why are you focussed solely on the consequences of israeli unremitting violence and not their cause? What do you think Palestinians conclude from this daily brutal violence towards them - that violence doesn't work? It works for Israel.

  • Lies, smear, and two-steps -- Why did organizers really cancel the Feis?
    • Good reporting. It is obvious that a peaceful and rational protest succeeded - as pointed out, Ireland of all places would be receptive to the arguments. But the zionists couldn't just swallow that and slink away quietly, which would have been the sensible solution if they wanted to downplay it. No, they have to go on the attack and raise the usual hysteria based on their default victimhood position. They just can't help it, and only succeed in raising the profile of BDS and its arguments. When in a hole, the usual advice is to stop digging. Israeli PR has called in the diggers.

  • Michael Oren misrepresents 1971 synagogue bombing that changed his life
    • justicewillprevail July 13, 2015 at 8:23 pm

      Annie was right- this is an infantile (and thus stupid) attempt to justify the zionist enterprise with a fallacious comparison. Nothing new there, but the clueless nature of the remark, another futile diversion, is droll as only hopper can be. Scotland isn't a 'new country' as explained already, it has been around for about 1500 years. It is not defined by some vague and undefinable notion of 'ethnicity' or religion. It is not setting up camp in an already occupied country and throwing out the locals, or demanding that it must have special privileges and a ruthless army to further its aims. It is not gerrymandering the voters in order to have a segregationist state, based on some unicorn-like tale of ancient folklore. It is merely questioning whether the union which it entered into with england some 300 years ago is still in its best interests. It is a political argument, as England moves further right, Scotland places more faith in the social democratic model of Scandinavia and Germany. It is not remotely a 'dignity' issue, which is as specious an argument as i have heard, and as foolish as your attempt to mutilate any political event into some sort of perverse justification for zionism. They have nothing in common. Scotland would be insulted by the idea. Is there nothing you won't try to exploit to prop up your ramshackle claims in the most harebrained and uninformed way?

    • justicewillprevail July 13, 2015 at 5:51 pm

      Right, so this claimed upsurge is more important than people telling the truth, instead of using exaggerated claims of antisemitism to further their crackpot political agendas, which is what this thread is about. Yes, you can always drag it back to these generalised claims about MW, with precious little evidence, when you can't answer the point at issue and play your get-out-of-jail card. If you want to accuse people, at least have the honesty to be specific, instead of making vague generalised claims as if that justifies your own whataboutery. The McCarthyite schtick you and hop use doesn't fool anybody, especially the pompous way you have of lecturing people who have far more intellectual rigour than you demonstrate.

    • justicewillprevail July 13, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      No, it isn't. What is your point?

    • justicewillprevail July 13, 2015 at 6:28 am

      Great response and research, tree. Puts hoppy's wild allegations and fact-free assertions in the light in which they deserve to be seen - as the usual hokum and bluster. Thanks for the fascinating insight and well-sourced arguments.

    • justicewillprevail July 13, 2015 at 6:22 am

      This is quite unbelievable. I only know of two regimes in the world which thought you could classify people according to percentages of their blood or dna into racial categories. You know which those were, right? You think you can inherit cultural characteristics? What century are you living in?

    • justicewillprevail July 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      Shorter hop: when I can't back up anything I say, I can always put words in people's mouths and then act all outraged about what they didn't say.. Another demonstration of the immaculate hoppy logic: cover up a malicious accusation by making some more. Nice!

    • justicewillprevail July 12, 2015 at 7:08 am

      So you have been unable to corroborate any of your assertions about Oren's experience, or that Phil is lying, except by quoting Oren. If you can't see the logical redundancy and stupidity of that response, then it is no wonder you repeat the same old fallacies every time you grace us with your chicken-on-a-hot-griddle performance routine. A more honourable person would withdraw their accusations of 'lying' but I don't think i'll wait on that one, given your weird stalker-like, attention-seeking, obsession with Phil.

      Co-opting a dodgy magazine article on European anti-semitism and the Holocaust is further evidence of your inability to answer the questions. I daresay you imagine it gives you the moral high ground which means you don't have to stoop as low as to have answer the details of your random wild assertions. A cute trick, but repetition gives the game away.

      You just can't get any traction here, can you? Despite the desperate angry-man denunciations, the hot-under-the-collar furious fulminating from the hoppy bunker. I wonder why, lol

    • justicewillprevail July 11, 2015 at 9:56 am

      Would that be the Geneva conventions which were framed in order to ensure another Holocaust never happens - the same ones Israel flouts on a regular basis? The Holocaust is not a trump card to be played cheaply when you cannot address an argument - shame on you for even trying. Stupid remarks, eh?

    • justicewillprevail July 11, 2015 at 9:25 am

      Once again, hop enters a thread like a bull in a china shop, tossing unsubstantiated allegations and insults around with gay abandon. With your track record, I wouldn't be so quick to accuse others of lying or or being inaccurate. With Phil's record I would be much more inclined to trust him, knowing that he will correct anything if necessary (unlike your scattergun attacks, then run away approach).
      A quick check reveals that Oren's parents were a therapist (mother) and hospital administrator (father). Sounds impeccably middle class, unless of course you class 'wealthy' as the super rich. Privilege is not synonymous with wealthy, btw, I know it is a bit subtle for you.
      The rest of your diatribe is unsourced assertions, contrary to the personal experiences mentioned here, so if you want to paint a different picture, back it up with some facts. You know what those are, right?

    • justicewillprevail July 10, 2015 at 5:49 pm

      Zionism is so invested in anti-semitism as its raison d'être that it has no problem in illustrating their thesis by some bombings perpetrated by themselves to be blamed on anti-semitism. Kahane had the motive and the skills. It wouldn't be the first time. Of course it could just be an amazing coincidence.

      As for the knuckles thing, it sound as preposterous as Oren's whole attitude - self-aggrandising myth-making. It goes with the territory. Manufacturing myth is second nature to zionism, since it depends so heavily on it.

  • Happy 10th Anniversary BDS
    • justicewillprevail July 11, 2015 at 3:44 am

      Hmmm, so you failed to provide any evidence for your ridiculous assertions, claimed that BDS is only successful because of those shady 'millions' of secret funding, then told us how ineffective BDS is, following it up with this feeble attempt to denigrate Maria by bringing up and exploiting a tragic death entirely unrelated to her actions and dumping it in this thread.
      So all you've got to offer is hate and vitriol, no arguments, some sneering and smearing, and an attitude that sounds like an immature teenage zealot. That'll be very effective in persuading people that they are doing the right thing in freely spending their time opposing the ideology you so charmingly espouse.

    • justicewillprevail July 10, 2015 at 6:06 pm

      I take my hat off to you, Maria. You and your associates are a great example of the commitment of ordinary people without the backing of billionaire's casino funds. DaBak cannot understand the commitment that blatant injustice inspires. He's a fine one to talk about money when the IDF pocketed the personal possessions of people they illegally arrested. Although he could tip us off where those millions are to be obtained in order to oppose zionist piracy and theft. Because he definitely knows about it, it's just that he can't find those sources 'cos he's a bit tired. All that blowhard commenting has just worn him right out.

    • justicewillprevail July 10, 2015 at 7:01 am

      So all you've got is innuendo and an admission that you can't source any of your allegations about 'multi-millions' (lol). Of course you can't be bothered - it would reveal the spurious, fictitious and absurd claims for what they are. Laziness isn't an excuse for lying.

  • The BDS Movement at 10: An interview with Omar Barghouti
    • justicewillprevail July 10, 2015 at 1:27 pm

      Yes, they're so integrated that Israel exploits and keeps nearly all of the resources for itself, whilst maintaining a chokehold on the Palestinian economy, ensuring it can't rise above the most basic level of subsistence. Crop destruction, land and water theft, factory destruction, livestock destruction, movement restriction - and enforced dependence , all integrated meticulously into an apartheid regime. Your concern for its maintenance in a 'confederation' is touching.

    • where were you educated?

    • justicewillprevail July 10, 2015 at 8:32 am

      Pogrund's litany of hasbara talking points in the Guardian are the usual fare. Suddenly the Green Line, which Israel rejects, is a valid boundary and the reason that it isn't apartheid is that West Bank Palestinians aren't Israelli citizens. Duh, maybe keeping people deliberately stateless and without rights is part of the apartheid strategy. Citizenship has nothing to do with it, except as a crude strategy to absolve your responsibility for the people you ruthlessly control and imprison.
      For a less partisan and misleading view try Stephen Robert, who didn't just find it apartheid, but 'apartheid on steroids'

    • justicewillprevail July 9, 2015 at 11:43 am

      Ha, your concern with the welfare of the Palestinians you are destroying is noted. A small pocket of prosperity in Ramallah should be compared to the inflicted misery of Palestinians in the surrounding areas. And you should try educating yourself about BDS, instead of rehashing boilerplate hasbara. Perhaps you missed this sentence: "It targets Israel and entities that are complicit in its regime of oppression" No mention of Ramallah, unless of course you consider it a zionist outpost. But perhaps that angle is lost on you.

  • New online digital mapping tool shows inside story of Israeli assault on Gaza
    • justicewillprevail July 8, 2015 at 6:15 pm

      No worries, Annie. Glad to be able to help and add my impressions of this impressive technology. Israel likes to think they can attack and destroy with impunity, as if they can immediately forget about it after it's over. But they can't escape the consequences and long-term effects of such massacres. What do many people remember about Vietnam? Scenes like the Mai Lai massacre. It burns into their memory. Northern Ireland - Bloody Sunday. The grotesquely named Protective Edge massacre may well go down in history like that. There was a program on the BBC tonight about the effects on children, including footage of the boys killed on the beach, and the Dresden-like images of Gaza City. This is what people recall, and it is backed up by the painstaking work being done here - all of which add to the case against Israel and seek to hold it accountable. Blithe dismissals and crude hasbara only reinforce their deeply inadequate and indifferent response, which only highlights their S African style denial and provokes the same kind of campaign against them.
      Which is why I agree with your diagnosis of change in our lifetimes.

    • I went to a presentation about this, and it is an amazing piece of forensic work, which collates the multiple recordings and eye witness accounts in microscopic and comprehensive detail. It has enormous value in providing an independent account of Israeli strikes corroborated by tens, if not hundreds, of witnesses, which makes it very hard, if not impossible, to contradict. Israel has, as we all know, sought to cloak its ruthless civilian strikes in bland, mendacious language, often not even acknowledging the number or impact of these devastating, indiscriminate bombings.
      Now there is an alternative source of information, and one which is near impossible for israel to shut down. They have tried to control the narrative for decades. Digital technology and its ubiquity have rendered that null and void. Israel worst enemy is the truth, in all its carefully researched and documented detail - which is why they hate these UN reports so much.
      Now Palestinians have another tool to disseminate the truth about the lethal, deliberate destruction of infrastructure - hospitals, schools, factories and of course houses. And of course it will be invaluable in any court of law, such as a war crimes court, and for the colossal reparations they are due.

  • Theodor Herzl wasn't Jewish, according to Israeli minister
    • justicewillprevail July 10, 2015 at 10:51 am

      No, you are overreacting. Who cares what your associates think. There is some amusement at the revelation that 'who is a Jew' is an 'age-old question'. Since the state of israel is founded on this definition, and depends on it to dispense privileges not afforded to others, give them the land and houses of the native people and beggar other countries for billions of dollars, it makes the whole edifice rather shaky. Now we find they can't even agree themselves, which demolishes the whole basis for discriminating in favour of people who have arbitrarily the 'correct' grandparents. So they're just like everybody else, but different in a way nobody can quite define or detect, although an enormous bureaucracy is dedicated to ensuring their separate identity - how bizarre. Maybe it's all a social construct, eh?
      A modern state with a commitment to equal human rights would not of course discriminate in such arbitrary ways, based on the myths of one section of the population.

    • justicewillprevail July 9, 2015 at 11:55 am

      Indeed. And i have often that a god who concerns herself with whether a hat is on or off, what kind of hat it is, the hairstyle, shaved or not, bearded, bald or elaborately coiffured has perhaps too much time on their hands (what do they do all day?)

      Whatever, people love making up rules and rituals to justify their cultish beliefs. Then they can persecute the other lot who wear hats on the wrong day of the week, or don't wear fur coats in summer. Life of Brian had it about right.

  • California students resist authorities’ attempt to conflate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism
  • Shifting the Discourse: Katie Miranda interviews Adam Horowitz on challenging the mainstream media
    • justicewillprevail July 7, 2015 at 4:18 pm

      Radical ideologues?? Lol. I doubt you know the meaning of the words, just a handy smear phrase from your every ready pocket guide.
      Zionist pushback, what? little hop is threatening to send round the big boys? heh, and as for the boilerplate charge of 'antisemitism', it always sounds like you are losing the argument, or don't have one (more often the case), when you trot out your rubber gun. They scare people (but nobody listens to them)? you are easily scared, hoppy, best hide under your bed. Unless there is no room, because the reds are already there. You are hilarious. Over 7,000 comments and this is the best you can do? Oh dear.

  • Unsilencing Gaza: One year since 'Operation Protective Edge'
  • Hillary Clinton promises megadonor she will work with Republicans-- to oppose BDS
    • justicewillprevail July 8, 2015 at 6:04 am

      Ah, that would be the BDS you keep telling us is toothless and ineffective. Your concern for Palestinians is touching, like a crocodile's tears.

    • justicewillprevail July 8, 2015 at 6:03 am

      Ah well, depends where you draw the boundaries of S Africa - were the bantustans and statelets included? Same as gerrymandered Israel, you can draw the boundaries where it suits your argument. Different states, same systems of control, division and separation.

  • UK's Block the Factory activists protest Elbit System factories on 1st anniversary of Israel's 2014 Gaza massacre
    • justicewillprevail July 8, 2015 at 5:37 am

      Israel is most definitely not 'needed' - it is a huge part of the problem. Its strategy to make itself inextricable with the US has succeeded to the point where there are many insiders who deplore the influence of a foreign power on the US. They are biting their lip for now, but once a movement grows, their voices will be heard. Who cares that they are 'big guys' - that alone makes them vulnerable.

  • Joining up (Tzedek Chicago, and a Judaism beyond nationalism)
    • justicewillprevail July 8, 2015 at 1:49 pm

      As superficial an 'analysis' of political systems as you could possibly get, all done as another exercise in excuse-making for israel. None of it bears up under the most cursory examination. Why I am not surprised.

  • Oren's demands make Israel's liberal apologists squirm
    • justicewillprevail July 6, 2015 at 9:10 am

      Ah, ever the one to get to the heart of the matter, Mooser. You're right, those dirty, lowdown rats in the US have treated immigrant Jews just like any other citizen and allowed them free association and movement, not to mention equal rights. Shocking, a body blow to the policy directive from Hasbara Central.
      Which makes me wonder - what would America look like under Israeli-style government? Free passage for all white Christians, including the secular ones who have inherited a bible in the family. Everyone else, well they could be herded into some of the smaller, more remote states, put under blockade, forbidden to travel, and their houses regularly demolished, in case they get too comfortable. Water restrictions and their crops uprooted just as a precaution against economic development and self-subsistence. You could have Korean, Mexican, Irish, Italian ghettoes, since there would be no US citizenship, just 'ethnic' categories. It would of course be the only democracy in the Americas. Just to top it off, this new state would demand a steady stream of taxpayers money from China or Europe, since they would be defending an essential way of life, and stopping the barbarians. Of course, full participation in these foreign government's policies would be an essential requisite. And anyone dissenting would be tarred and feathered as an anti-American, the lowest form of prejudice.
      Yep, Israel is a shining example to us all.

    • Why on earth would American citizens who happen to be Jewish feel that Israeli racist squatters are in any way 'family'? Perhaps you mean in the mafia sense of blackmail and extortion.
      Self-abnegation - lol, hop has a new word which could only be truly applied to the self-abasement of a people who are inured to the colossal violence and deliberate dehumanisation of those who have the misfortune to have the wrong parentage.
      And 'assimilation' - what a wealth of segregationist, paranoid cult-like fear and isolationism lies behind that word. America is built on assimilation, its culture enriched immeasurably by it.
      As a self-elected spokesman for 'the Jews' you are doing a spectacularly self-destructive job, hop. Not self-abnegation, just plain old negation. You put me in mind of scientologists. Excommunicate the waverers, doubters and freethinkers! And harass them mercilessly.

    • justicewillprevail July 5, 2015 at 4:52 pm

      Halevy and Oren, and the others in their camp, just don't get it - the rules of the game have changed, with the consequence that their tired and threadbare old stratagems don't work any more. In fact, worse than that, they are thoroughly counter-productive, and only alienate more people , confirming the growing awareness of israel as a rogue state, contemptuous of the US while at the same time demanding endless support for an increasingly and clearly ugly, rotten apartheid system.

      Trotting out lines like 'israel at the most dangerous time in its history' is utterly banal, and only betrays the paucity and ludicrously overblown hysteria they routinely deploy, and only insults the audience who have been paying through the nose for a country awash with arms, missiles, advanced weaponry of all kinds, whilst also covering for it with the most egregious lies about its true nature.

      It is impossible for most people to square the reality which is increasingly common currency with the fabulous tales and wild claims that Oren and co make. They are making utter fools of themselves, particularly through their inability to understand how they have exhausted the shallow, implausible rhetoric they have relied on for decades. It just doesn't work any more, and the more it doesn't work, they worse they get with their apocalyptic claptrap.

      People are tired of it, the same old gestures and hollowed-out threats disguised as advice, the patronising lecturing, hectoring bluffing from bullies who have held sway for far too long. The emperor hasn't got the clothes he pretends to, and everyone outside the fantasy-filled lobby knows it. Israel has cut itself off, but its handlers still think the mob threats and rackets still work to keep the crowd at bay and the legislators in line. Forget it, Oren, you're out of time. It's over.

  • Bulldozers poised outside Susiya, right in time for July 4th congressional break
  • New report details UK complicity in Israeli human rights abuses, calls for arms embargo
    • Oh, it's nothing whatsoever to hopper, but he can't resist another gratuitous and irrelevant snide little dig at somebody, such is the futile nature of his unpleasant attempts to pour his vitriol on people who come up with inconvenient facts, and have principles.

  • 'A traumatized society is dangerous'
    • Avigail, thanks very much for this enlightening thread and subsequent discussion. It has been fascinating and instructive reading, and if Mondoweiss had a pantheon, this thread should go straight in it, for future reference.

      On a related topic to your interests in trauma and cults, I highly recommend Going Clear, a documentary about scientology. It is a fascinating account of the power of group thinking and psychological manipulation, including the 'removal' of trauma, only to be replaced with a new manufactured one. Though not exactly the same, there are some gotcha moments in relation to zionism.

  • 'Jewish cow' is udderly superior to all other cows in the world, Netanyahu says
    • That 'recycling' - is that what they call stealing the Palestinians water, and then dumping the squatters' sewage on them? Very innovative. Would make a cow super fertile, i guess.

  • When will justice's 'thunderbolt' come for Palestine?
    • justicewillprevail June 27, 2015 at 9:51 am

      You've got to stop smoking that stuff, hop. It gives you delusions and fantasies. The Disney version of israel doesn't actually exist, except in comics. Apparently you've never read mondoweiss, you should try it, it will temper those wild fantasies with some reality - dangerous, I know for addicts like yourself.
      I especially recommend this excellent article above. which you seem to have missed in your compulsion to comment randomly, in an arbitrary kind of way.
      Or you could try recent articles on the shooting of children, the UN report, the State Dept report, B'Tselem - why, there's a whole host of evidence awaiting the application of that vivid imagination you possess. Just put the pipe down, first, like a good fellow.

  • In letter to John Kerry, 19 reps stand up for Palestinian children behind bars
  • Israeli President Reuven Rivlin calls for removal of Israeli flag
    • justicewillprevail June 25, 2015 at 9:44 am

      Ha ha, Mooser might be, and indeed is, many things, but a demagogue is about the least of his attributes. do you actually know what the word means, hop, or does it just sound like a handy term of insult to you? Given the amount of pea-brained demagogues Israel has in its government I would have thought you would be well acquainted with the concept. What with the brand loyalty you are so keen to promote and insist on for everybody else. It's almost....demagogic. Or tragicomic. You decide.

    • justicewillprevail June 24, 2015 at 5:45 am

      "Are you really so stupid you actually believe your what-aboutery will make the grade here? "


  • 'Obama coffee' is black and weak -- racist tweet from wife of Israel's vice premier
    • justicewillprevail June 23, 2015 at 1:56 am

      Israel, particularly its government-backed squatter movement and the IDF, outshine the KKK in every department of cult-like prejudice and deadly violence. Your distasteful point in trying to exploit a horrendous massacre is what? Israel institutionalises what other nations recoil from?
      Nothing is too offensive for the zionist whitewash squad.

    • justicewillprevail June 22, 2015 at 5:03 pm

      You're (predictably) looking the wrong way, hop. The subtext is in the photo, but never mind, it's lost on you. There is no subtext to Israeli racism, it's out there in the open. Funny how racists always claim that 'everybody' speaks like them indoors. And it wasn't long before an apologist came along to throw in the Charleston massacre as some kind of false equivalence. Israeli squatters and the IDF don't even make the news when they gun down defenceless Palestinians. Perhaps you should try joining the dots between an embedded racism and the violence Israel metes out to the native population.

    • justicewillprevail June 22, 2015 at 12:22 pm

      I love how Yonah earnestly informs us what a 'learned discussion' about coffee and colour would entail (as if it was in any way relevant, other than as a feint), whilst at the same time demonstrating he has learned nothing, except to google some random quote he reckons he can use to mitigate standard issue israeli racism. For a 'learned discussion' Yon, you would have to educate yourself a bit first.

    • But you still thought you'd bring it up in a double-faced attempt to excuse the racism that pours out of Israel. There is no comparison or similarity in circumstances, whatever your feeble attempts to pretend there is.

      Just look at that picture, btw, a whole subtext there.

  • Michael Oren misrepresents the truth, 'Forward' and 'NYT' editor assert
    • justicewillprevail June 19, 2015 at 5:04 pm

      Heh heh, you have a unique talent for misconstruing just about anything that is laid out in front of you. Logic and comprehension obviously died the day you took up your pen. Still, all in the service of the greater cause, eh? Truth and reason are the first casualties in the endless little Mondowar you so bravely fight, singlehandedly too! I imagine the mentors are so proud of their little hop.

  • Ending memoricide-- the Nakba Museum project
    • Thanks for this. Israel has been relentless in erasing as much traces as it can of Palestine and its people, in its ruthless project of the denial of a real history and memory of Palestine for its people. As an addendum, i attended a screening of a film about cultural memory through cinema - the Palestinian film archive was kept in a building in Beirut, beside the PLO HQ I believe. The archive was the target of the first bomb when Israel attacked Lebanon in 1982. That tells its own story, although many Palestinians and Israelis believe that Mossad appropriated the archive for its own purposes and it still exists, probably never to be seen again.

      This filmmaker has attempted a reconstruction of memories for which there are no existing images any more. It is a short, well worth looking at:

  • Video: Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs ridicules foreign press in cartoon defending Gaza attack

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