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There are all sorts of things that never make it in to the discourse Judaism is not hatred. So Zionism is not Judaism. It's Mensches versus Cossacks. I am with the Mensches. We have to get Jews back to Menschkeit. The religion didn't survive this long by being asshole focused. "I am scared. I am scared that we will continue living like this. And that fear scares me." "But in the long run, a hostile region like that cannot be policed, even by a nuclear-armed Israel. It will simply do to Israel what some of the wars have done to us on a smaller scale. Attrite it, tire it, fatigue it, demoralize it, cause emigration of the best and the first, and then some sort of cataclysm at the end which cannot be predicted at this stage because we don’t know who will have what by when. And after all, Iran is next door. It might have some nuclear capability. Suppose the Israelis knock it off. What about Pakistan and others? The notion that one can control a region from a very strong and motivated country, but of only six million people, is simply a wild dream." In the corners there is light That is good for you And behind you, I have warned you, There are awful things

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  • 'Nothing changed with this law' -- Palestinians respond to 'Nation-state of Jewish people' law
    • Presumably whenever a fascist is elected in Europe what's good for the Israeli goose will be fine for the antisemitic gander and Jews will be denied basic rights.

    • Everything in Israel depends on what the goys think

  • Just boycott settlements? Liberal Zionist agenda faces huge pressure now
    • I remember being in London at a pro Palestine meeting around 2001 and a Jewish lady telling the multitude that Israel could not be boycotted because of the Jewish history in Europe. And Israel has slowly chipped at that cover before blowing it out of the water this week.

      An all Israel BDS includes some very juicy targets. El Al, Teva, the diamond wallahs.
      Israelis will only desert the occupation when it hurts. It's tough love, YossI !!

      In order to be boycottable Israel needs to be uglier than sin. This new law is magnificent.

      It will even be easier to approach Israeli tourists. Pariah status is rather exclusive.

  • US liberal Zionist group sees 'hope and conviction' in Knesset on day it passes Jewish state law!
    • Israel has a form of terminal cancer. Liberal Zionists think it is just a bit under the weather.

  • Israel declares itself apartheid state, and gov'ts must hold it accountable -- Omar Barghouti
  • 'This is our state, the Jewish state.... our nation, language and flag' --Netanyahu triumphs with new law
    • @Rashers2

      There is a reason they left the Haram al sharif to the Waqf in 1967 amidst the messianic joy. The site is as toxic as Ayodhya in India, where Hinduism and Islam regularly shed blood over the Babri Masjid. After The BJP trashed the mosque in 1992,

      Muslim taxi drivers in Bombay were dragged from their cars and beaten to death. They are easily identifiable in times of crisis by the lucky number they paint on their vehicles.

      I was in Bombay in 2008 when Pakistani militants attacked 2 luxury hotels , soft targets in something to do with Kashmir. The militants were ideological and made a point of visiting the local Chabad house and killing a few Jews. These were easily identifiable by the kippa.

      If Israel does do the unthinkable it will be vulnerable Jews across the world who do the dying.
      I know a synagogue in Zurich that has round the clock security. The price of militant Zionism and fathomless cruelty.

      And Islam will not tolerate anything that changes the status quo.

    • Israel always needed the protection of the Declaration of Independence. Look! Our progressive Declaration of Independence! We can't be racist!

      Even the old fascists understood that. But after the Jerusalem capitulation by the Yanks, Netanyahu and the settlers are untouchable. Like a balloon seeking altitude they ditch everything they think they don't need including this figleaf.

      The relationship with US Jews who are mostly Reform and Conservative is deteriorating. Israel is now run by medieval or pre medieval Orthodox. An openly discriminatory legal system is not going to fly either in Europe or amongst DC elites. It isn't even working in Birthright circles.

      I would expect the Israeli corporate sector to push back on this but they are probably neutered anyway.

      It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Israeli groupthink says history is over.
      History says it is not.

      "Hegemony is a tricky concept and provokes muddled thinking. No victories are permanent or final. Hegemony has constantly to be worked on, maintained, renewed, revised. Excluded social forces, whose consent has not been won, whose interests have not been taken into account, form the basis of counter-movements, resistance, alternative strategies and visions …and the struggle over a hegemonic system starts anew. They constitute what Raymond Williams called “the emergent” –and the reason why history is never closed but maintains an open horizon towards the future."

    • Elliot

      I remember being in a cafe in Tel Aviv one afternoon . There was an Egyptian soap opera on and maybe 20 guys speaking Hebrew watching.
      I have met a few Israeli taxi drivers who love Um Kulthum. That would horrify Naftali Bennett.

    • ""In a rare move, archaeologists and curators at the Israel Museum in Jerusalem rushed to put the piece on public display. A detailed report is set for publication in the June edition of the journal Near Eastern Archaeology."

      Typical zionism. The cult that will dig through and throw away 15 layers of history to find the one layer that may be Jewish

    • Emet, habibi

      Palestinians are 20% of Israelis so they should have had 20% of ministers over the last 70 years.
      How many Palestinian ministers has Israel had ?

    • Mooser

      A Mr A Hitler had a standard definition of Jewishness. I bet the Zionists will come back to that.

    • Echi

      You are too much of a romantic. You need to get real :)
      Northern Ireland is similar to Israel. The settlers created a clusterfuck. Any solution has to include them. There is no going back to t minus 1.
      Maybe a lot of Israelis will leave anyway. Especially if they lose their economic privileges.

    • I think too many politicians are afraid of the lobby so the pressure will have to come from below.
      People have to organise.
      Israel is not going to make it. It only takes 10% of a population to know something for it to become accepted

    • I love that accent. Jad wallahi

    • It's also a Nakba of Mizrahi culture. Most Israeli Jews have no idea who they are. They get this fake history in school (taught by ignorant teachers, often on the left, especially in Beersheba) and paranoia in the Army. They are easy picking for demagogues.

    • If the fundis get into the compound they will destroy the 3rd most holy site in Islam. And that will kick off WW3.

    • Ditching arabic is a sign that Israel has no interest in engaging with any of its neighbours. Or with the cultural history of its non Ashkenazi citizens. So , so short sighted.
      People with no roots are much easy to manipulate.

      Etta Ankri is a Tunisian Jew who was born in Israel. This is her version of a song by Khaled, an Algerian. Half of the Jews in Israel originated in the Middle East .

    • Another thing Echi. Most Israelis were not around in 1948 so it counts as sins of the fathers . They were born in a country with a terrible hIstory.

      Willy Brandt went to Warsaw.

      Germany did far worse things in Poland in ww2. Brandt was humble and made very symbolic gestures to indicate Germany accepted the new borders and its responsibilities .

      That is the kind of thing an Israeli leader could havé done. But Zionists are trash .

    • It's not justifying it Echi. There is no point in being absolutist or pretending 1948 can be reversed just because you feel like it. .If you don't have the political forces you have to operate in reality.

      I actually think they'll be forced out eventually but in say 1990 they could have changed . I know Palestinians who were ready to live together with them. I know Palestinians who believed in the peace process and moved back to Ramallah to make the state work. And At the end of the day the Beitar Jews have no other home.

      The war is between decency and nihilism and Israel chose to fight with nihilism.

    • The past never ends

    • The state of Israel is psychotic

    • "I think the borders are what they’ve always been: As much as possible of geographic Palestine"

      Everything, everything

      To end up perhaps with nothing

    • The NYT has been behind Israel every step of the way. Really stupid.

    • It was. Many countries were too. Israel had the chance to be a normal country, to deal with the past and secure its future . It needed a decent leader to execute that. Instead it had a succession of vicious assholes. Now it's too late.

    • This day of ignominy goes back to a speech Nitin/Milikovski/Netanyahu made in his 20s. There is no such thing as a Palestinian. there is no such thing as Palestinian rights. They lost. It is over.

      In the intervening period he became King of the Jews and his crap became policy. Now there is the Jewish state min al Nahr ila al bahr - from the river to the sea. It has been made possible by US cover and US money. Nothing ever stood in the way of the project. It needed the brainwashing of the Israeli Jewish population too of course and the diversion of over $100 bn of taxes from welfare and education to the fucking settlers.
      The project succeeded because of its many enablers- the EU too of course and the Arab leaders. It also ran up huge risks. One of these risks will blow up Israel. And Israel can never reach equilibrium. It can never be a normal country.
      Nobody groupthinking sees any of this.

      The big question is how did Zionism, Hatikva, the great hope, end up led by such an asshole.

    • "Our language" is Modern Hebrew, the trauma and groupthink vector.
      Nobody thinks like Jewish Israelis cos nobody speaks modern Hebrew. Modern Hebrew has all of the filth that defines the insanity.

    • Jewish messianism sees Israel as the reward for the Shoah . Without Auschwitz there could be no white phosporous, no Bar Refaeli.
      Jewish Messianism says history is over.
      History is never over.

  • Leading US Israel supporter is abused at Israeli airport for having 'Palestine' pamphlet
    • Israel is run on groupthink

      “In his 1953 masterpiece, “The Captive Mind,” the Polish poet and dissident Czeslaw Milosz analyzed the psychological and intellectual pathways through which some of his former colleagues in Poland’s post-war Communist regime allowed themselves to be converted into ardent Stalinists. In none of the cases that Milosz analyzed was coercion the main reason for the conversion. They wanted to believe. They were willing to adapt. They thought they could do more good from the inside. They convinced themselves that their former principles didn’t fit with the march of history, or that to hold fast to one’s beliefs was a sign of priggishness and pig-headedness. They felt that to reject the new order of things was to relegate themselves to irrelevance and oblivion. They mocked their former friends who refused to join the new order as morally vain reactionaries.”

       "During the war we were taught that Japan, the land of the Gods, was a righteous, divine country and that America was an evil, barbaric country. We didn't actually believe this, but merely followed along, thinking that, since there was no such thing as a just war , such poisonous, simple minded rhetoric was a way to whip up a state of furious belligerence in the people. Again, we had doubts as to whether or not Japan would be capable of guiding the Greater Asia c0-prosperity sphere.. We did not think we would be defeated. It was not that we were so convinced of victory we never thought of defeat. It was simply unbearable to contemplate it, and because we could not imagine what our fate would be afterward we shielded our eyes from the possibility and went on believing in certain victory.
      People of the future will find it strange that during the war we so easily accepted an education smacking of distorted self esteem and hostility that advocated such preposterous ambitions, but for us the reasons seemed compelling"

      Diary of writer Yamada Futaro, October 1945, quoted in "So Lovely a country will never perish" p 152-153

      Shine a light on the real culprits — the buy side
      From Pulak Prasad, Singapore
      Sir, Sarah Gordon has written a scathing indictment of the sellside analyst (“Sellside research would be little missed”, February 7). As a fund manager for many years, I can’t quibble with any of the facts stated in the article. What I am quibbling about, though, is that she is blaming the wrong party.
      We can all agree that there is a problem with sellside analysts. But why? Why do these very smart young men and women behave the way they do? Because of the greed, corruption, short-sightedness, arrogance and incompetence of the fund management community, to which I belong.
      Our community is laser focused on the short-term results and staying with the herd, and hence so are the analysts, who, after all, are being paid by us. A fund manager who puts a hand on his heart and says to an analyst: “Help me understand the long-term fundamentals of this industry and company, and I don’t really care if you are wrong about the stock price movement over the next quarter or next year” is a rare species indeed.
      Let’s not shy away from indicting the sellside, but let’s also not stop there, and move on to shine the light on the real culprit, which is us, the buy side.
      Pulak Prasad
      Nalanda Capital,

      Groupthink tends to deviate from reality and then collapse.
      For all of the wisdom within Judaism it is hard to see Israel avoiding this fate.

    • I have been following Israel for over 20 years and now is the worst I have seen. Power means Bennett and Co can do what they want but what they do reeks of paranoia and insanity. Denying Palestinian reality is what the thugs in the Old Testament stories did regarding Judaism.
      Israel is trying to refashion reality to accord with Zionist groupthink. It's a sad fail.
      Israelis may be as fanatical as the Japanese in ww2 by the time the cavalry ride over the hill. It could develop into something awful.

    • "abused at Israeli airport for having ‘Palestine’ pamphlet" is so Naftali Bennett. Deny reality.
      It's like the ultra Orthodox and periods. Pretend they don't happen. FFS.

      Every Palestinian breath is an assault on Israeli groupthink.

    • If there were a top 10 of "Israel as it really is" videos, that would be in.
      So would this :

    • Lying is bigger, Mooser. On a per capita basis.

      "They lie to us
      And then lie to themselves
      About lying to us " - Trudell

    • Constructive engagement with trauma is not possible

    • Israel is a cult where any mention of Palestine is deemed unacceptable. It's great to see Israeli officials doing this to Jews. Jews must understand that Israeli "security" agents are sick bastards.

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  • Palestinian paramedic Razan al-Najjar was 'deliberately and fatally shot' by Israeli sniper -- B'Tselem
  • Eight more Jews walk out on 'Birthright,' saying tour has no place for Palestinians
    • Israelis are trained to be assholes. American Jews generally are not . It's no surprise the program is in trouble.

    • The whole concept of birthright is deeply offensive

      "For all of our languages, we can't communicate
      For all of our native tongues, we're all natives here
      Sons of their fathers dream the same dream
      The sound of forbidden words becomes a scream
      Voices in anger, victims of history
      Plundered and set aside, grown fat on swallowed pride

      With promises of paradise and gifts of beads and knives
      Missionaries and pioneers are soldiers in disguise
      Saviours and conquerors they make us wait
      The fishers of men they wave their truth like bait
      With the touch of a stranger's hand innocence turns to shame
      The spirit that dwelt within now sleeps out in the rain

      The scars of the past are slow to disappear
      The cries of the dead are always in our ears
      Only the very safe can talk about wrong and right
      Of those who are forced to choose, some will choose to fight

      Zionism is sick

  • Ocasio-Cortez hedges criticisms of Israel-- 'I may not use the right words'
  • 'NY Times' uses old tricks to distort Israel's latest attacks on Gaza
    • The NYT as a media outfit believes in the discovery model. What is revealed today is more important than what we already know. The NYT can thus control the narrative.
      But as John Trudell understood, the past is in the present. IsraeL today is the result of millions of past decisions.

      And Israel is heading for Masada.

    • "There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part"

      The NYT is caught in a trap. It can't walk out. Because it loves Zionism too much, baby

  • 100 days since protests began, Gazans reflect on what the Great March of Return has accomplished so far
    • Your commenting history shows that you support every attempt to batter Gaza into submission. You support violence when you feel like it.

    • Long time moving the Israeli left rightward. Not that it was hard.

    • What has Hamas achieved?

      Zionism is socially unacceptable in Ireland and Scotland.
      Everything Israel does to Gaza is another nail in the coffin of Israel .

      Israel's contempt for the people of Gaza is fathomless. It wouldn't matter who they elected. Israel is beyond reason.

  • 'You cannot be a democracy and not a state of all its citizens': Jamal Zahalka on what the rejection of the 'State of all its Citizens' bill means for Israel
    • Claude Lanzmann,  the director of the 9 and a half hour movie Shoah, has died. He interviewed hundreds of Sonderkommandos, guards and Nazis in over 300 hours of film. In 1979 he was severely beaten by the sons of a Nazi he was secretly filming. He wanted to understand how the Holocaust happened.

      It started with racist laws.

    • Is called.

      I remember driving to Nazareth in 2001. It is one of the largest Palestinian towns in the Galilee. I had Turkish coffee with 3 old guys in a tourist shop. They said Palestine was dead. Israel was too strong. Look!
      Power doesn't work like that. Prussia was also strong . Look!

    • The Palestinian MKs are endlessly impressive. Tibi, Zahalka and Zoabi are world class, voices of reason in a land of insane Jews.
      GroupthinK means there are virtually no coherent Jewish parliamentarians in Israel.

      It is such an irony or such a triumph for goodness that the most erudite MKs are Palestinian. Israeli kids are taught that Palestinians are backward. WTF.

      Gil Scott Heron wrote "bicentennial blues" in 1976
      Lightly edited...

      "The Palestinians have grown but the Israelis have not. The Palestinians remember everything that the Israelis forgot.

      And we would be silly in all our self righteous knowledge when we sit back and  laugh and mock the things that happen in our lives to accept anything less than the truth."

  • Hasbara is dead
    • "On the other hand, it is a revolution ripe for exploding. It tells me the grass roots need to keep hammering, hammering, hammering."

      The Nazis ran out of petrol. Zionism will run out of people. There aren't enough Zionists to win.

    • They don't have enough people.

    • What's the Hebrew for magical thinking, Jon?

      Gaza and the West Bank 1 Israel 0

    • The problem is economic rather than cultural

      1. "If the unfolding disaster of Brexit is to be stopped in its tracks, and the over-remembered, over-deified past restored to its proper place, we need parallel creativity – a constitutional settlement with Europe and, at home, a real assault on the injustices that fed what was at bottom a protest vote against a status quo too many found intolerable. Too much remembering has become toxic. It is time to forget and move on."


      The US needs "some sort of synthesis on the larger postindustrial/populism war. Over a century ago industrialisation brought on culture clash between agrarian populist and the genteel Victoria aristocrats.  Théodore Roosevelt transcended the fight by inventing a new kind of American nationalism. Meanwhile the progressives cleaned up elite corruption and nurtured a square deal for those left behind by technological change. Cultural leaders introduced new institutions and community forms like the Boy Scouts and the settlement house that drew from both cultures replaced them.  Today we need another grand synthesis that can move us beyond the current divide, a synthesis that is neither redneck nor hipster but draws from both worlds to create a new social vision . Progress on guns will be possible when the culture war subsides, not before.

      Unfortunate for Israel both solutions involve breaking Israel -friendly power

    • Check out the video

      Israel’s defence minister has called on his country to close its embassy in Dublin in response to the Seanad backing a Bill banning the import of goods from West Bank Jewish settlements.

    • If hasbara is dead then so is career assassination object because of the inhumanity of Zionism

      “It was very interesting to notice the attitude of the Israelis towards us. They couldn’t comprehend why were doing this. What we were doing challenges their mindset and that is why it is such an effective tactic. They treat the Palestinians as if they are subhuman. They don’t think Palestinians deserve to live in a normal society, to be able to import and export and fish and farm. It’s great to be able to meet that mindset head on.”

      Zionism responds brutally

      “It was a technique which the Zionists were to employ throughout their struggle. The technique of promoting damaging personal attacks on those who stood in their way rather than trying to counter their arguments.”
      “Such non conformists were subtly made aware that their jobs might be at risk, their books unpublishable, their preferment out of the question, their public reputations vulnerable if they did not renounce the heresy of anti Zionism ”
      Publish it not, Mayhew and Adams, 1975
      "Increasingly, Jewish groups inside and outside Israel are using what can be easily interpreted as bullying tactics to silence their opponents. Israeli policies toward Palestinians, Eritrean refugees and non-Jewish immigrants are morally indefensible; the critiques against these policies will be increasingly strident, and among these critiques some will be worthy, some unworthy. Muzzling critiques, even the unworthy ones, cannot be a valid response. In fact, it only proves the main point of the critiques, namely that Israel and the people supporting Israel are increasingly relying on undemocratic politics and tactics."

       SimoHurtta says:
      December 20, 2012 at 8:05 am

      "A long time Finnish member of Parliament Pertti Salolainen (former journalist, diplomat and leader of the conservative party) got just a “special” anti-Semite treatment. He was asked in the television why USA voted against the lifted Palestinian status in UN. He said that USA has difficulties to take a neutral stand because the Jews are very influential in USA and control much of the money in US politics and the US media. He also said that USA doesn’t dare to make decisions in the matter because of internal reasons and that is the sad truth of US politics in the Israel/Palestine question. This short analysis is basically something to what every Finnish (and European) analyst or politician agree, but not all dare to say in public.
      At once the Simon Wiesenthal center reacted to the matter and demanded through the Finnish ambassador in USA the Finnish government apologize and to kick out Pertti Salolainen from all official positions he has. The local honor chairman of the Jewish congregation Gideon Bolotowsky added fuel to the flames by “joking” in the local yellow press that Salolainen has his data from the Mein Kampf. "
      "And yet here we have this ad, seen above, and an orchestrated campaign (you think Hiatt didn't get the memo or didn't even need to?) to dictate the policy and cabinet picks of the newly elected president. You ask: where do they get the gall? The "Emergency Committee For Israel", which sponsors the ad, contains in its very name a distillation of the paranoia and fantasy that is undermining a sane foreign policy for the United States, while supporting every suicidal, tribal, fundamentalist tendency in an increasingly isolated and fundamentalist Israel. Politico helpfully reminds us that
      ECI was among the most aggressive conservative voices against Obama during the 2012 presidential campaign.
      So why does he think he can get another scalp from yet another smear? And the answer is, as they say, "in front of one's nose." Because he operates on the premise that policy toward Greater Israel is not something that a president should have any serious control over. Policy in that respect is set in Congress aided and abetted by AIPAC and batshit crazy Christianist Zionists. Like the NRA, this lethal lobby will destroy any politician it can who stands in its way. It will also try to destroy the careers and reputations of any who criticize it. "
      Last April, students at Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton, FL, interrupted, corrected, then walked out on an Israeli colonel who came to speak about the Cast Lead onslaught as a good thing. They held up a sign saying War Criminal. They were investigated for months and to escape worse punishment accepted assignment to what they describe as "reeducation" under a curriculum crafted by the Anti-Defamation League, a rabid Zionist organization. The students say the university "buckled" to Zionist organizations' pressure.

       Blake says:
      September 21, 2012 at 6:27 am

      Paraphrasing Charles Freeman:” The tactics of the Israel Lobby [Zionist shills/ propagandists notwithstanding] plumb the depths of dishonor and indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotations, the wilful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods, and an utter disregard for the truth!”
      1. Former US Senator from South Dakota James Abourezk in 2006:
      ” I can also tell you that very few members of Congress—at least when I served there—have any affection for Israel or for its Lobby. What they have is contempt, but it is silenced by fear of being found out exactly how they feel. I’ve heard too many cloakroom conversations in which members of the Senate will voice their bitter feelings about how they’re pushed around by the Lobby to think otherwise. In private one hears the dislike of Israel and the tactics of the Lobby, but not one of them is willing to risk the Lobby’s animosity by making their feelings public.”

      And Israel is so wonderful

    • fewer intelligent people elsewhere are buying Israel’s story”. So what?

      Say intelligent people don't believe the Bulgarian government any more. So what ? Bulgaria isn't needy. Bulgaria is a normal country.

      Israël is not like the other children. Israel needs to be understood. Why? Because it is an enclave surrounded by enemies. Because it is nominally Jewish. Because if the airport and airbase were taken out it would be in serious trouble. Because what it is doing is illegal under international law. Because it chose a stupid path half a century ago.

    • It is not hard to make the case that the money should be spent on Americans

      “So when you get a letter it’s like a gift from God. He told me everything that I wanted to hear. He said I wasn’t going to be a prostitute any more, that I could go home with him and live at his house, and that he would be the love that I was searching for.”

      When Kate walked out of prison, Rawls, a career criminal and convicted felon with more than 47 charges for sexual battery, child abuse, drug possession and assault, was there to pick her up. Just as he had promised.

      In the US, where opioid abuse has sparked a public health crisis, fentanyl is at the front line of overdose deaths. Opioid overdoses increased by about 30% across the US in just 14 months between 2016 and 2017, and fentanyl deaths shot up by 540% between 2013 and 2016.

      According to the the US Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, the rate of deaths caused by synthetic opioids such as fentanyl jumped from 3.1 per 100,000 in 2015 to 6.2 per 100,000 in 2016. In October last year the US president, Donald Trump, declared it a public health emergency.
      What stories are catching your eye at the moment?
      The opioid crisis in the US. There’s been a lot of hand-wringing about it, as if it’s some kind of natural disaster. I see it more as a crime story. And I find the psychology very interesting. People like the Sacklers [the family who made billions from OxyContin] have a hard time understanding why anybody should consider them the bad guys – after all, they were just trying to make a buck.


      Here, in a beat-up downtown, sandwiched between a noisy railroad and the brown waters of the Ohio River, is the US opioid epidemic’s ground zero — the drug court for this city of 47,000 with an overdose rate 10 times the national average.

      These days, Huntington is best known for two things. The first is a cluster of 26 overdoses and two deaths that all happened in a five-hour stretch in the early morning of Aug. 15, 2016, and were all tied to heroin and other opioids. The deaths alarmed public health officials, pointing to the lethality of fentanyl, a synthetic drug roughly 30 times more potent than heroin, and carfentanil, an astonishing 5,000 times more potent than heroin. At the start of the decade, fentanyl overdoses were rare. Now the drug and its chemical cousins are the country’s leading cause of fatal overdoses.

    • Israel has gone from being part of the furniture to a polarising issue. Jewish self determination is all well and good but Zionism is murderous and has simply no idea how to get itself to a state of equilibrium. Violence has been used to gain territory in the past but the unintended consequenches have now paralysed Israel.

      Israel is not sovereign. Foreign support is its lifeblood. It needs guarantees of quick American rearmament in every war. It needs 24/7 diplomatic support. It needs money.
      That all depends on unstinting popular support in the West . And Israel's nihilistic behaviour in Gaza corrodes this.
      It is all building into a catastrophe .

    • "The Labour Party in Britain has also declined to endorse a definition of anti-Semitism that includes harsh criticism of Zionism, Israel, and its lobby"

      Wrapping up "Jewish self determination" in a brutal system of ethnic hatred- it doesn't seem to work any more in the UK :

      Israel should have taken the peace offer in 2000. It is too late to rescue Zionism now.
      God must be laughing her head off

  • Obama was shocked -- shocked -- to find that settlements were eating the West Bank!
    • Obama must have known. Some problems can't be fixed. They are just left to run their course. Why risk many careers by standing up to the Zionists ? Better to let Israel collapse. All by its little old self.
      If something cannot last forever it will stop at some point.
      And Zionists don't act ever in their own best interest. Plus they are vicious. So fuck them.

  • Isaac Herzog won't apologize for saying intermarriage is a 'plague'
    • Herzog is being strategically panicky. If the proportion of "pure" Jews in the population falls then Zionism loses one of its pillars.
      Zionism is a backward reaction to modernity. But modernity wasn't kind to Jews either 1933-45 and there is trauma too so it is complex.
      The Zionists didn't manage to build a country attractive enough to most US Jews. They had to import cheapskate far right "Jews" from Russia instead and the fertility rate of the Orthodox and ultra Orthodox did the rest.
      I think Judaism is a total mess at this stage.

  • Despite international condemnations, Israel prepares to demolish Khan al-Ahmar
    • The Nazis are still winning. When Julius Streicher was on the way to his execution in 1946 he said "Purim", mocking the Jewish religious festival. Maybe he knew that Judaism by then had been been destroyed. Israel is a Jewish ghost.

    • The French magazine L'express has a glossy Israel at 70 issue out for €15 and it features Masada where 1000 fundí Jews committed suicide during a Roman siege. It is now a holy Zionist site where Israeli army ceremonies are held. "Masada will not fall again" is one of the slogans. How funny that after 2 millennia Jews in the near East are again militaristic, deluded and taking suicidal risks.

  • UNRWA does not perpetuate the conflict, the conflict perpetuates UNRWA
    • Immediate ancestry. FFS.
      Ancestral Homeland. FFS.

      If something cannot last forever it won't.
      The occupation cannot. Will it take Israel with it ?

  • "A Watershed Moment in Palestinian History": Interview with Jamal Juma’
    • "Israel has never expressed a political, social or cultural inclination to destroy our rid itself of its Palestinian citizens or the Palestinian culture that exists outside of Israel."

      Ethnic cleansing 1948
      Refusal rto allow people the right of return
      Sabra Shatola 1982
      Treat them like dogs. Moshe Dayan
      Use of banned weapons in Gaza
      Limiting calories in Gaza
      Blowing up sewage installations
      Blowing up hospitals

      Israel is barbaric

  • Liberal Zionists say that Israel and the U.S. are in the same struggle against rightwing forces
    • "warned the J Street crowd not to give up on Israel."

      Never trust a junkie


      "  She also very quickly explained that the fault lay not with one man but with the experiences of Soviet generations, now reworked for new wars. When she listed the fake descriptions of events in Ukraine in the Russian media, she spoke of Russian society as a “collective Putin.” As she put it, “Putin placed his bet on the basest instincts and won. Even if he disappeared tomorrow, we would remain as we are.”

      Trauma is illiberal. Israelis are traumatised. The people are sick.
      Bibi is a reflection of this. The guy is an asshole who wouldn't be elected to run a dog pound in Sweden.

    • I saw Naomi Chazan speak in West Quds in 2000. She was Meretz. Very sound. Saw the big picture.
      Netanyahu and the settlers won though and Israel is goosed.
      She should move out. There is nothing illiberal about justice. The project failed.
       Hillel saw a skull floating in water and he said because you drowned others you were drowned and they too will be drowned. Even bronze age tribespeople understood that violence is for losers and similar to the hotel California.

  • It's time for Tom Friedman to face the contradictions of liberal Zionism, and move on
    • Heres a quote about now.
      "All sides in current politics — even the radicals — are sticking to what they know. At some point we will all have to let go."

      The whole article is super.

      We are in a war- plutocracy versus humanity.
      Bennett versus Hillel
      The Israeli Army versus Gaza
      Yiddish versus Hebrew
      Trump versus a Guatemalan 3 year old

      Nazism is like Ebola- too lethal to be efficient long term.
      This is also yin versus yang. And it can't last

      A lot of Friedman's Weltanschauung has collapsed.
      And when this happens cognitive dissonance multiplies.

    • Stephen Miller is a Nazi.
      Now is the same as the 30s. Breeding ground for far right insanity. Israel is ahead of the curve. bringing the US up to speed. I think Fried man still thinks it's 1997.
      Here's a very interesting nugget.




      I was skeptical until I verified these clippings at @nytimes. In 1934, influential religious figures in US argued that Germans did not hate Jews but only supported Hitler out of economic anxiety, & that Jews would be fine if they'd just be civil to Nazis & show good will.

  • Israeli activists respond to Palestinian call, hang photos of fallen protesters along Gaza fence
    • I think it is going to be harder and harder to align the values of American Jews and those of Israeli Jews.
      Israel is well down the road to fascism. American Jews are not.
      No Jew has a birthright to oppress Palestinians.

  • The pathetic caving of Nickolay Mladenov
    • Israel is really good at Goldstoning, at lobbying, at promising and then reneging, at whining and at murder.
      What it is not good at is thinking strategically about the future. Everything will not be fine.

    • I just saw a group of Hebrew speaking Israelis in the street. I was thinking of all the Gideon Levy articles I have read. They deserve pariah status.

  • LGBTQ Palestinians: Israel uses Pride celebrations to 'normalize and justify occupation'
    • Pride Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are used as a mask to hide Israeli fascism.
      There is a mirror at Mondoweiss which shows Israel's true face.

  • Gay Liberation Network declares 'We Stand With Palestine' during Chicago's Gay Pride Parade
  • Dear Isaac Herzog, American intermarriage is a reflection of progress
  • Israeli left leader says intermarriage by U.S. Jews is 'actual plague' and he vows to find 'a solution'
    • Echi

      If your mother is not Jewish the religious won't recognise you as Jewish. It is exactly the same as the Paris thing . How to be x in the modern world. How to boost continuity.

    • Jewish officialdom is like Parsi officialdom. They retain their otherness by ruthlessly expelling anyone who marries out. It is a medieval strategy that doesn't recognise the modern job market and its role in people getting together. The Parsis have huge problems with this issue too.

  • One Democratic State: an ongoing debate
    • Political economy was effectively ignored. The structures of economic control were retained even if a sliver of the black population got to share in the trough.
      This cannot be repeated in Israel/Palestine.

    • Some good points there. I agree about 1947 as arbitrary. Israeli Jews think politics are set in stone and that wars are final. Hegemony doesn't work like that. Nothing is eternal.

      Regarding South Africa one aspect that was ignored was political economy. Whites continue to control the cash-flows. This is a destabilising factor. Israeli rule is designed to maximise Jewish incomes. This is why Jews are so loyal tó the system . Without addressing this, nothing will work.

    • The 2 most important aspects of post Zionism imo are education and political economy.
      Another key issue is post Zionist collective identity. Zionism is for the fairies.
      A fourth issue is group trauma care for Israelis. The IDF economy feeds trauma to Israelis to support the occupation.

    • Israelis have no shared culture other than trauma, no shared history other than fantasy and no shared values other than nihilism.

  • A Call to Action from Gaza: Cover your city with posters of the Great March of Return heroes
    • Israel's Achilles heel is numbers. You CANNOT run apartheid on a base of 6 million cult members or 13 million affiliates. Tech cannot overcome this.

      "With the rising visibility of Palestinian solidarity, and especially the growth of the boycott, divestment, and sanctions movement (BDS), pro-Israel actors have increasingly depicted social media in the terms of a battlefield, in which the spread of “lies” against Israel is regarded as a serious threat on par with rockets from Hamas. To meet this challenge, Erdan announced a new initiative he referred to as an “Iron Dome of Truth” — an app — that promises to intercept and neutralize offending content.

      With the mobile application and online platform Act.IL, Israel aims to recruit a mob of slacktivists and trolls to join their war against the most insidious forms of violence: pro-Palestinian tweets and Facebook posts.

      Users of the app are presented with quick daily missions that they complete for points, earning their way up the leaderboards. Missions include “liking” and commenting on specific Facebook posts, retweeting pro-Israel accounts, and signing petitions. It provides users with suggested comments that they can copy-and-paste to spam discussion boards, and satirical videos and cartoons that are shareable (if cringeworthy).

      In this way, the app identifies and directs users en masse to engage in propaganda online, both affirming pro-Israel sentiment and “revealing” the supposedly terrorist character of BDS. “Inciting” content is identified with the help of the Israeli Defense Forces and the Shin Bet, revealing the close collaboration with Israel’s military and security forces, but users can also suggest specific posts to be targeted.

      With this technology, Israel is given the power to actively manage online discourse, taking direct command of its army of volunteer internet warriors and deploying them wherever is seen fit. It is Israel’s friends, however — a diverse network of non-state actors willing to collaborate to advance the state’s goals — who make this possible.

      Tech and State

      The Act.IL app is the product of deliberate efforts by the Israeli state, in collaboration with universities, American nonprofits, and Israel’s tech sector, to develop an infrastructure for incubating anti-BDS technologies.

      One feature in recent years has been the rise of anti-BDS “hackathons,” multi-day events which tend to be hosted by Israeli universities in conjunction with pro-Israel think tanks and advocacy groups, such as the Reut Institute and StandWithUs. These are competitive events, with significant cash prizes, in which Israeli and international teams of high-school and college students meet to develop new algorithms and applications, with the intent of identifying and responding to anti-Israel content on social media more efficiently."

      There are too many Hillels and not enough Bennetts in galut.

    • Loads of Palestinian flags in evidence at the Ulster football final yesterday in Ireland
      “It was very interesting to notice the attitude of the Israelis towards us. They couldn’t comprehend why were doing this. What we were doing challenges their mindset and that is why it is such an effective tactic. They treat the Palestinians as if they are subhuman. They don’t think Palestinians deserve to live in a normal society, to be able to import and export and fish and farm. It’s great to be able to meet that mindset head on.”

  • Hitchhiking to Treblinka
    • The picture of the trees at such a site of fathomless evil reminds me of a song by the great PJ Harvey :

      On Battleship Hill Lyrics

      The scent of Thyme carried on the wind
      Stings my face into remembering
      Cruel nature has won again
      Cruel nature has won again

      On Battleship Hill's caved in trenches
      A hateful feeling still lingers
      Even now, 80 years later
      Cruel nature, cruel, cruel nature

      The land returns to how it's always been
      Thyme carried on the wind
      Jagged mountains, jutting out
      Cracked like teeth in a rotten mouth
      On Battleship Hill I hear the wind
      Say, "Cruel nature has won again"
      Cruel nature has won again
      Cruel nature has won again
      Cruel nature has won again

      PJ Harvey told The Sun about this song:

      Throughout the songs on the album, nature plays a great role. I’d chosen to look at a lot of ancient folk songs from all over the world. Songs from hundreds of years ago passed down the line in Cambodia, Ireland, Vietnam, Russia. And a theme which comes through in all these countries' music is your relationship to the land. The lyric: “I hear the wind say, cruel nature has won again,” captures that feeling. No matter what happens to us, nature will always be there. Which is comforting but also quite brutal.

    • "Neither has anything on the scale of the dramatic Polish monuments you see to the Polish resistance and uprising."

      Obviously. the Poles are still there. It is their country. Judaism has forgotten Poland and invested everything in Israel.
      There is more wisdom in a Yiddish conversation that in a year's worth of Hebrew in the IDF .
      The pity of it all.

    • Good point, Danaa

      Imperial Spain post 1492 was a good example. It expelled its Jews and the gold from Peru was mismanaged and Spain fell into a very long decline.
      Aurangzeb polarised the Mughal empire by discriminating against Hindus and that started the long death of the empire.

      All caste systems suffer from the promotion of mediocrity.

    • Great link

    • "Advancing  that Jewish future is more meaningful and hopeful than fostering the Jewish state."

      Zionism dumped the Polish and other Ashkenazi past for a made up.history with nothing to link it to the past. This is one of the reasons Israel has failed. Israelis do not know who they are . They have no values worth speaking of . They are easy prey for demagogues . They are barely Jewish . Their groupthink is trauma .

    • "America has done so well economically because it has treated Jews well."

      Neoliberalism has destroyed the US.

  • Democrats are losing their fear of AIPAC and Haim Saban
    • Zionism is too fixed an ideology to survive. Reality shows that it is deluded. The gap between Hillel and Bennett is a chasm.
      So Zionism has to go. 2 options. Gently or in a cataclysm.

  • 'Ali is on the grill!' Israeli settlers celebrate burning of Palestinian baby
    • IsrAel is not stable. Say there is a tree made up of

      These settlers
      Betar fans
      Likud vôters
      Jon S

      In decreasing order of Naziness , the assumption would be that the level of Naziness would be stable. But over time each group will become more radical.
      There is nobody in charge.

      Israel will end horribly.

  • Palestinian official links US withdrawal from UN human rights body with US taking 'crying babies from their parents’
  • US leaves UN Human Rights Council, a 'cesspool' of bias against Israel
  • Mal Hyman's outspokenness on Gaza massacre is a sign of things to come in Democratic races
    • No worries Echi. The Dems are Augean imo. There is some decent stuff beneath all the crap

    • What continuous Dem propaganda? Throw up the most recent 20 in the last month when you get a minute.

    • This is a good tweet from Ted Lieu that also relates to rabid Israel.


      "Extremists Corey Lewandowski, Stephen Miller & @realDonaldTrump are now the face of the Republican party. But nature abhors a vacuum. Democrats don't just represent progressive values, we also represent the middle & even the middle right because of how far the #GOP has shifted. "

      Israel is even more extremist than the GOP. Jewish plutocracy is driving both vehicles in the direction of the cliff.

      The GOP and Israel are in a danse macabre choreographed by Nikki Haley

  • Organizer of the Great March of Return says protests in Gaza 'must go on'
    • Boris, habibi . Israel is not "Jewish civilisation"

      1. It is not Jewish
      2 It is not civilised

      LOLZ ( laugh out loud at a Zionist)

    • There is a famous quote by Robert Solow :

      " Everything reminds Milton Friedman of the money supply. Everything reminds me of sex but I try to keep .it out of my papers. "
      All kinds of everything remind me of Israel.


      "Mola unit was among those working on one of the UK’s largest ever excavations, at 40 sites strung along 350 hectares where the traffic-choked A14 from Cambridge to Huntingdon is being widened.

      Gdaniec finds the whole site quite sinister. “People talk about the archaeology of conquest, but I have never felt it as strongly as here. The Romans arrive, the people who were here are completely subjugated, everything changes and is never the same again. We are not seeing trade and peaceful co-existence here, we are seeing enslavement.”

      The Roman empire also collapsed. They all do.

  • If I had to live in Israel again, 'it would actually drive me insane' -- Shaul Magid
    • Danaa,

      Hostage's comments could be made into a book or a film. There have also been some great articles.
      I guess once people figure out what Zionism is they don't necessarily wish to keep up to date with the details Following the decline is hard . Israel is a brutal study in human delusion.

      It will collapse but as Mr Keynes said about something else the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

    • Tarafa was very smart. He would love to have met JK Galbraith, I imagine. "The conventional wisdom gives way not so much to new ideas as to the massive onslaught of circumstances with which it cannot contend. "

      Law of nature. IMeanwhile Israel thinks there is a God who cares about it.

    • Zaid

      Israel is a car crash. It will never be a normal country

    • Ya'ni.

      They are all indoctrinated. And they can't leave the script. It's groupthink.
      Does this remind you of anything ?

      "On the Tuesday evening, as Roussel was being interviewed by the police, one of the older Tour riders was being interviewed by the L'équipe journalist Philippe Brunel. The 'Brunel' interview, a long-form Q&A, was a regular feature in the paper and followed familiar lines: the glory of cycling, the magic of the Tour and the major talking points of the race.

      This one was different.

      Jaded from the hypocrisy, the rider spoke truthfully about the demands of his profession and confessed what every racer in the peloton knew but was too scared to say: that Willy Voet - the Festina masseur who had been caught ferrying the drugs to Ireland - was not the villain being portrayed, but a kind and decent man who had been simply acting to orders.

      That the abuse of EPO, a blood-boosting hormone, had been widespread in the peloton since 1994 and that the scandal enveloping Festina might easily have happened to other teams.

      It was a remarkable testimony of frankness and honesty and Brunel was buzzing when he left the hotel. He had been reporting on the sport for decades but no active racer had ever given him what this guy had: the 'family' secrets; the A to Z on doping; the power of 'Omerta' and the code of silence. 'This will change the game,' he thought.

      . . . And then his phone rang.

      It was the rider, pleading for the interview to be pulled. His team manager had noticed them conversing in the lobby and was threatening to sack him for "professional misconduct". "I'm really sorry," he gushed. "I'm not denying what I said but I've a wife and kids to support. I hope you understand."

      The interview was binned.

      They met the following morning, shortly before the start, and the rider was full of remorse. "Last night I acted like an intelligent human being," he sighed. "This morning I'm a fucking idiot again."

      But he was in good company.

      When the '96 Tour winner, Bjarne Riis, was asked for his impressions, he insisted that "it wasn't up to me to respond". Then the Eurosport commentators, Stephen Roche and David Duffield, announced that they would not be addressing the controversy in depth because they only "dealt with facts".

    • Mondonut, American Perspective, the 2 Jons- Hasbara is shit.

    • Dude

      You are full of shit. And Israel is a kip running apartheid.

      BTW I had to laugh at the notion of Mondo as far right. Unless far was used instead of very.

  • At our 50th year Israel reunion, I had three minutes to tell my story
  • A Palestinian disfigured by tear gas canister reflects on change in his life
  • Israeli lawmaker: 'Jewish race is the greatest human capital, the smartest'
    • Chomsky :

      "We live entangled in webs of endless deceit, often self-deceit"

    • The smartest race would not have occupied Gaza in 1967. Not by a long shot.
      If sheep had political power they wouldn't go near Gaza
      Neither would goldfish.

    • Not according to the PISA tests.
      Jews do well when they are educated. Israeli Jews are not educated. They are brainwashed. The most extreme case, the Ultra Orthodox , other than controlling the Shatnez market, are very weak in the labour market.

  • You can no more be a socialist Zionist than you can be a meat-eating vegan
    • Zionism is about Jewish privilege.
      The numbers don't lie.

      Nir Barkat spelt it out in a 2011 interview
      at around 2.35

      average income for:
      – a jew in Jerusalem: $16,000
      – a jew in central Israel: $24,000
      – a Palestinian living in Jerusalem: $4,000
      – a West Bank Palestinian: $800

      This is one reason Israel is not sustainable

    • Zionism is like Ulster Unionism. Ethnocracy. It isnt even vaguely socialist. The economy is controlled by 14 plutocrats . Wealth distribution is appallingly skewed. Jewish working classes are kept in line by fear of the Arabs.

  • The World Cup on one leg on the Gaza border
  • 'The Israeli military said,' the New York Times reports
    • The thing that Zionists are most afraid of is mass Palestinian non violence

    • Mhughes

      While it is true that the political reaction to the Gaza killings has been muted what counts is what happens in the minds of people in the West and how they see Israel.

      The other key point is that Israel continues to deteriorate. GazaNS are vermin in the Israeli mindset.

      Think of it as 2 parallel lines which have deviaTed. The only question is when the lines converge.

    • In WW2 the holocaust didn't just happen because of the Germans and others who did the killing. American Jews did nothing to help their European co religionists. This has been used to co-opt American elite Jews into the Zionist project for many years. The NYT is in the Hotel California. It can check out but it can never leave. So it ends up publishing nonsense. It is locked in a danse macabre with Zionism, which is now dying.

    • Wallahi al atheem. The Fink on Mondo. I hve loads of his stuff on my bookshelf. Do you come here often? It's like Lebron at a neighbourhood basketball match.

      He has been documenting the crap for over 30 years. It it always the same lies, dehumanisation and insinuations.
      I think I know his lines from Waterloo U off by heart.

      "Both of my parents were at Majdanek concentration camp. Every single member of my family on both sides was exterminated.Both of my parents were in the Warsaw ghetto uprising. and it was precisely and exactly because of the lessons my parents taught me and my 2 siblings that I will not be silenced when Isael commits its crimes against the Palestinians. .And I consider nothing more despicable than to use their suffering and their martyrdom to try to justify the torture, the brutalisation, the demolition of homes that Israel daily commits against the Palestinians. "

  • Knesset foils efforts to end Israeli apartheid
    • AP

      Most people on Mondo mainline news and analysis from the Zionist cluster fuck. You can claim whatever you want about Israel but there will be a news item tomorrow to contradict you . And another and then a flood .

    • "but when has Israel (or its supporters or illusionists) ever claimed that Israel is a “western-style liberal democracy”?"

      You need to see an AIPAC Conference.

  • Israeli drones drop Ramadan blessings leaflet on Gaza-- before four more are killed
  • The beautiful game: a history of whitewashing international crimes 
    • Nitin/Milikovsky/Netanyahu is a conman. And Americans will turn on Israel when the time is right Never trust a junkie

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