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  • 'This is our state, the Jewish state.... our nation, language and flag' --Netanyahu triumphs with new law
  • Once again, Israel's influence outpaces Russia's
    • I wonder if trump will try to declare the united states as the nation state(s) of white people, the official language is whatever it is he speaks and all the other non-white people will become by law 2nd class citizens, will be deported (specific threat to NFL players - deport to where???) or worse if they don't respond to him like he was nebuchadnezzar and stand at attention when they hear etc., etc. Along with women's rights to determine their reproductive destinies, I picture them taking away their voting rights (because they are a demographic threat, especially black women who finished Roy Moore) and rolling back the 13th amendment because as he remarked as only he could, that the constitution was archaic.

  • Israeli law bans former soldiers and critics of the occupation from speaking in schools
    • No surprise here. The dumbing down of the youth, spearheaded by MK of Education bucky bennett (of the 'no apologies' campaign), in the continued efforts by the state to raise ignorant, violent, paranoid children with persecution complexes and turn them into ignorant violent 'soldiers' with murder and rape on their minds. Who's going to stop them?

  • Israel closes Palestinian university in East Jerusalem, indefinitely
  • 39 worldwide Jewish groups state that BDS is not anti-Semitic
    • Just another attempt to move the goal post. Don't be a lazy bot. From their website - please get a fucking clue - this is just a taste, a guide for you, the perplexed.

      BDS Movement |
      https://bdsmovement.net/

      "Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) is a Palestinian-led movement for freedom, justice and equality. BDS upholds the simple principle that Palestinians are entitled to the same rights as the rest of humanity.

      Israel is occupying and colonising Palestinian land, discriminating against Palestinian citizens of Israel and denying Palestinian refugees the right to return to their homes. Inspired by the South African anti-apartheid movement, the BDS call urges action to pressure Israel to comply with international law.

      BDS is now a vibrant global movement made up of unions, academic associations, churches and grassroots movements across the world. Eleven years since its launch, BDS is having a major impact and is effectively challenging international support for Israeli apartheid and settler-colonialism.

      For nearly seventy years, Israel has denied Palestinians their fundamental rights and has refused to comply with international law.

      Israel maintains a regime of of settler colonialism, apartheid and occupation over the Palestinian people. This is only possible because of international support. Governments fail to hold Israel to account, while corporations and institutions across the world help Israel to oppress Palestinians.

      Because those in power refuse to act to stop this injustice, Palestinian civil society has called for a global citizens’ response of solidarity with the Palestinian struggle for freedom, justice and equality.

      BOYCOTTS involve withdrawing support for Israel and Israeli and international companies that are involved in the violation of Palestinian human rights, as well as complicit Israeli sporting, cultural and academic institutions.

      DIVESTMENT campaigns urge banks, local councils, churches, pension funds and universities to withdraw investments from all Israeli companies and from international companies involved in violating Palestinian rights.

      SANCTIONS campaigns pressure governments to fulfil their legal obligation to hold Israel to account including by ending military trade, free-trade agreements and expelling Israel from international forums such as the UN and FIFA."

  • Leading US Israel supporter is abused at Israeli airport for having 'Palestine' pamphlet
    • I confess, from the title of the article containing the words US Israel supporter and abuse, I was expecting actually to read about some abuse. He wasn't abused at all, inconvenienced maybe. I went to his son's twitter page and my impression was the anger and surprise that his father's entitlement (rich jewish american) didn't entitle him to a kiss goodbye, come again soon from airport security. Compared to a night at the russian compound, strip searches, etc. and more that has happened to countless others. He's upset because his dad was treated like the 'other', sort of.

      Now they're biting the hand.

      bite the hand that feeds you Definition in the Cambridge English ...
      https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you
      bite · grant · ingrate · ingratitude · jam · thanks · thanks for nothing idiom · unappreciative · ungrateful · what more do you want - jam on it?

  • Riverdale alumni express outrage after elite NYC school cancels Israeli-Palestinian conflict class following parent pressure
  • Palestinian paramedic Razan al-Najjar was 'deliberately and fatally shot' by Israeli sniper -- B'Tselem
    • "The boundary is slowly being pushed until the final expulsion or extermination. "

      I don't see it any other way either. And to make matters worse, Ayelet Shaked is the crowd favorite to step in after netanyahoo - and she's got a chabad rabbi as a cheerleader.

      Haredi diamond mogul wants Shaked as Prime Minister - Israel ...
      http://www.israelnationalnews.com › All News › Inside Israel

    • Of course she was. Bastards.

  • Two Palestinian teenagers killed in most intense Israeli daytime assault on Gaza since 2014
    • "using “Occupation” to refer to Israel.”

      Occupation may be new to CNN, but hardly the rest of the world. Feckless cnuts.

    • Netanyahoo says that balloons and kites must stop. Not enough that Hamas said it would stop firing rockets.

      CNN) —" Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made clear that Israel will now consider arson attacks from Gaza in the same way that it considers launches of rockets and mortars.

      Speaking ahead of his weekly Cabinet meeting Sunday, Netanyahu referenced Saturday's announcement from Gaza militant groups that a ceasefire had been reached after a serious escalation in tit-for-tat rocket attacks and airstrikes.

      "I heard it being said that Israel has agreed to a ceasefire that would allow the continuation of terrorism by incendiary kites and balloons; this is incorrect," Netanyahu said. "We are not prepared to accept any attacks against us and we will respond appropriately."

      The comments came after Hamas and Islamic Jihad, the two largest militant factions in Gaza, said Saturday a ceasefire agreement was reached with Israel. Two hundred projectiles, including rockets and mortars, were fired toward Israel in the previous 24 hours, Israel Defense Forces said. Israel said it carried out what it called its single largest bombing campaign in Gaza since the 2014 war.

      Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum told CNN that "since the start of the Israeli strikes on Gaza, various mediation efforts (led by Egypt) to stop the aggression have succeeded in bringing calm and stopping this aggressive escalation."

      Islamic Jihad spokesman Daoud Shihab told CNN, "There have been great efforts ... to bring back calm to Gaza. We have agreed to the Egyptian efforts and agreed to the calm and ceasefire as of 8 p.m. local time (1 p.m. ET), if the Occupation commits to stopping its aggression," using "Occupation" to refer to Israel."

      So like the dirty player that he's always been, netanyahooo moves the goal post freaking every time it looks like an accord may be reached. Always adding extra demands and conditions. It should be clear to the UN and even the tools at CNN that netanyahoo is declaring war again on Gaza and his goal is as it has been, to kill palestinians and take their lands. Way back in in 2014, netanyahoo again demanded the palestinians recognized the 'jewish state'. It appeared they did, but when hamas and the PLO decided to be friends, netanyahoo commenced with bombing gaza. I know that 3 jewish yeshiva students kidnapping was used as the excuse and not the fact that the IOF had arrested hundreds of palestinians right before. the 'state of israel' can always be counted on to lie, cheat and steal, then cry, cry, cry. Seriously, he is equating balloons and kites to rocket fire. F'cking unreal.

  • 100 days since protests began, Gazans reflect on what the Great March of Return has accomplished so far
    • jon s/ivanka - am so looking forward to the publication of your thoughts, musings from an iron dome notwithstanding and heard the possible title is Men Who Kvetch: Thoughts From the Point of View of An Israeli History Teacher, Long-Time Activist on the Israeli Left.

    • "Today there was a disturbing development: A fire – bearing baloon came down in a kindergarten. Fortunately the teachers kept the children away and noone was hurt. But this will have to stop or I fear there will be a war."

      I told you before to ask nicely. Well I for one think that teacher was a real bitch for not letting the kids play with the 'fire-bearing' balloon. What a buzz kill she/he must be. Anyway jon s, can't help but notice your real talents. How you have interspersed in the comment sections on articles that expressly describe acts by the iof/zionist 'state' of real horror, real terror, real loss, real devastation , real death and destruction of palestinians and all that is theres, at the hands of this murderous 4th reich who see themselves as 'god's chosen people', with the weakest, most mundane news bytes , usually of a personal experience. I'm truly surprised at this point that you haven't posted selfies of you running in horror from a 'fire-bearing ballon'. Seeking the nearest bomb shelter. Or with your lovely students.

      For these reasons and many more, I nominate you, jon s, as the ivanka trump of Mondoweiss and in the words of the great Samantha Bee - a "feckless c**t."

    • What on god's green earth are you talking about?

    • jon s
      An Israeli history teacher,long-time activist on the Israeli Left.

      "Sounds pretty crazy to me."

  • 'You cannot be a democracy and not a state of all its citizens': Jamal Zahalka on what the rejection of the 'State of all its Citizens' bill means for Israel
    • Police play dead because the attackers are the chosen people. Well of course.

    • Make you cry? I didn't have you in mind at all echi. I feel there's a larger picture here. You can't oppress part of your population and have the rest unaffected. Once they see what they can do to one group, they will quickly turn to the next, and the next, and the next.....you see where this is going? Self-destruction. Amen.

    • Pretty hypocritical of them, right? Inevitable though, too bad they didn't see it coming to bash them on the head. Equal rights - nope, not with the zionist pseudoreligious ethnosupremacist govt in charge. It's the taliban with a different uniform. It's the Kingdom with a different uniform. You can't think that an ideology based on the extinction of all that is not part of them - different ethnicity, religion, etc., won't eventually turn on their own. That's what they are doing. MK Zahalka talked about 'democracy' and the zionists say what democracy? We don't want no stinkin' democracy! And STFU gentile!

      These pervs can't watch a woman sucking on a cigarette without their tiny minds a'wandering. Chosen people? Chosen fools.

    • Not as a detraction from this article at all, but women will soon be entering that twilight between having rights and being property.

      https://www.alaraby.co.uk/.../news/.../modesty-laws-israels-female-soldiers-adhere-to-...Israel's female soldiers adhere to 'bra schedule' to avoid arousing men
      The New Arab

      Israel's female soldiers adhere to 'bra schedule' to avoid arousing men

      Female soldiers are told it's their fault if men harass them [Getty]

      Date of publication: 15 July, 2018

      Female Israeli soldiers have been excluded from their military exercises and are being pressured to adhere to an increase in 'modesty codes'.

      Female Israeli soldiers have complained of being subjected to extra “modesty rules” which ban them from wearing white shirts at training bases and smoking around men to prevent them being subjected to “womanly temptation” on duty.

      A report by Israel’s Women’s Network showed how women in the Israeli army are being made to comply with rules that restrict the way they dress, their army training and their interaction with male colleagues, as the influence of more religious Jews in the army grows.

      The increase in such modesty codes has made women feel less comfortable training and has put them at a higher risk of sexual harassment, the report said.

      “The dozens of testimonies that have reached us at the hotline for female soldiers in the past year and a half attest to what we’ve known for a long time. Commanders in the field deviate from the army’s orders and enforce bizarre modesty rules on the female soldiers, and prevent them from doing their jobs”, managing director of the Israel Women’s Network, Michal Gera Margaliot said.

      Designated no-bra time

      Female soldiers complained that were that they are not allowed to take off their bras for as long as they are awake.

      “Throughout my basic training and my course, they forced me and my friends to have a bra under our uniforms,” one female soldier, whose name has been withheld said in the report.

      The women were still not allowed to remove their bras, even within minutes before preparing for bed.

      “There are two minutes between the inspection at the end of the pre-sleep hour and lights out,” she said. “If we tried to remove our bras even then, we were caught and given a warning,” which could become a punishment.

      “The only ‘legal’ option was to take off your bra lying down in bed after lights out”, she added.

      The ban on removing bras was placed to stop male soldiers from becoming “aroused” by their female counterparts.

      At the same base, shorts above the knee and white shirts were banned in calisthenics classes because they were deemed too immodest.

      The mother of a soldier told Israel Women’s Network that the clothing were banned because it places the blame on the woman should a male soldier be aroused.

      Cases of sexual harassment against women being shrugged off were also recorded on grounds that the women should have been more careful.

      No free-mixing

      Among the religious soldiers in the army, female counterparts are considered a burden and communication is kept to a bare minimum. Should religious soldiers speak to women, it is usually to dictate their immodest dress.

      At one base, the deputy company sergeant from the ultra-Orthodox wing of the religious-Zionist community, “refused to speak with, look at or work with the female company clerk,” according to his aide.

      A female physical training instructor was effectively kicked out of her role when commanders were not comfortable with her presence.

      “I was supposed to lead all the force’s exercises but slowly I realised that I wasn’t wanted there, that they actually didn’t need me because the commanders preferred to lead the exercises themselves,” the unnamed instructor told Haaretz.

      The commanders wanted to lead the exercises out of fear of an upheaval by religious soldiers.

      Instead, she was given more domestic roles.

      “In practice, I didn’t do my job but rather other nonsense like guard duty and kitchen duty. It’s unreasonable,” she added.

      “The minute you see religious soldiers, you’re deterred. They once told us to put pants on over our tights if there were a lot of religious guys in the unit, but few women do. They simply skip the exercise.”

      "Harass" probably includes rape, which is the woman's fault, of course. Welcome to the 21st century bitches! Whose fault was it? "Her fault, her fault, her fault.............."

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  • First they came for Alan Dershowitz
  • Hasbara is dead
    • "While Israel would support it most Arabs would be loath to have Israel as an ally even if it was to gain political freedom."

      It was hard to choose but to me this is the funniest line of your entire post, which was in toto was pretty damn funny.

      If most Arabs would be in fact loathe to have israel as an ally it would have to be because the israeli's can't be trusted any farther than one could be thrown, such as that delicate little flower with that eurovision winning chicken song, for example.

    • You're confusing Hamas with Likud.

    • "While other writers are considering an idea that cost a Yale chaplain his job during the last slaughter: Israel is fostering anti-Semitism. Tony Klug told J Street that Israel’s actions are putting world Jewry in a “precarious” position, and Sarah Helm of the Guardian and New York Review of Books wrote, “Israel’s own increasingly shocking policies towards Palestinians does more to fuel anti semitism than anything.”

      Long, bloody, tragic story short - it's the occupation stupid, and always has been!

      The time of humiliating people who want nothing more than to live their lives on their land without fear of molestation, murder and theft is OVER. When 'israel' is put (where it belongs) on the same level as authoritarian dictatorships throughout history and all over the world now, something's up. Even booboo is wondering if the zionist experiment has another generation and a half left in it.

      I wish I could share Phil's undertones of optimism, but until the embassy in jerusalem is torn down, booboo and sara are wearing matching orange jumpsuits along with the inciters regev, bennett, snake lady and others, lehava is called by all a terrorist organization, as well as the rabbinate and zionism of any stripe is condemned to the same fate as nazism and the settlements are emptied of all their filthy colonial inhabitants, I remain nothing but pessimistic. But these days are dark the world over, the one good thing lately has been the rescue of the football team from the caves in Thailand.

      In the meantime, 'liberals', of course repubes and and one particular kippa-wearing 'pious little shit' Ben Shapiro, are having the vapors over a comedy sketch by the very talented Michelle Wolf, about abortion rights. Where do women get off thinking they have the right to decide?

  • Dems have four congressional candidates willing to criticize Israel -- and 'reap political rewards'
    • I'm hoping Ilhan Omar will take Keith Ellison's place. ..."she alleged Israel has “hypnotized the world” and committed “evil doings.” She sure knows what she's talking about.

  • Speaker at Israeli gov't conference promotes genocide against Arabs and non-Jews
    • Do you have any sense of history at all? "these fabulations are red meat......" SERIOUSLY?

    • “Of course I referred with my words only to Arab terrorists who killed my son Gilad and the rabbi Raziel Shevach and many thousands of Jews. I live with Arabs in co-existence from my birth, out of the belief that in mutuality it is possible to live in peace.”

      What 'many thousands' of jews? I think he's confusing the thousands of palestinians murdered by jews. This man doesn't seen capable of co-existence in his own head, let alone anyone outside it.

  • Miriam Adelson urges young American Jews to 'have more Jewish babies' and 'lobby governments' for Israel
    • Misterioso - thanks for the video. It makes it easier to see why repubes are always grinning; not only have they destroyed the party of Lincoln, they're destroying the world. Eh, it's a job. Miriam should have that space-occupying lesion checked, oh, that's just shelly.

    • Oh yeah, passionate sheldon adelson, yikes, that's an image I'd rather not have.
      I'm not passionate, I'm pissed, and my vision is just fine.

    • "Adelson is a Jew who loves Israel. Like some other Jews who live at a safe distance from here, his love is great, passionate, smothering. "

      It's not love, it's an obsession, a sick, all-consuming mental illness that feeds on an idea that's BS to begin with which is a notion of being 'chosen'. That chosenness has allowed unspeakable cruelty to occur in the name of the jewish people, by people who are mostly not religious at all, but 100% zionist. Lets call them what they are, zionist people, who have successfully stolen judaism from those who practice that faith in its purest form, to love our neighbor as ourselves, to help the helpless instead of abusing and misusing them and to see all humanity as children of god and that we are all equal. Sheldon Adelson is a tumor.

  • The Gaza blockade is illegal-- and so is the use of force to maintain it
    • "You are seriously underestimating the power of BDS. Israel is in a state of panic that they will end up like South Africa. They are spending 30 million dollars to fight BDS which proves its effectiveness. Israel simply cannot resist BDS."

      That 30 million you're talking about is sara netanyahooo's household budget, doofus.

  • Jewish allies must understand that solidarity entails a loss of privilege
    • "In this case I was referring to dialogue between opposing camps of Jews."

      Camp Cmoniwanalaya versus Camp ziosupreme? That camp is too camp, you know. That sounds like a waste of time, as it has since 'time immemorial'. The problem(s) can't be part of the solution (guess which camp Mr. Dreadman).

  • Isaac Herzog won't apologize for saying intermarriage is a 'plague'
  • UNRWA does not perpetuate the conflict, the conflict perpetuates UNRWA
    • Holy moley crapdaw, you hit it on the head. "Israel" is the biggest welfare recipient on the planet, 70 years and counting too. Totally agree that a culture of dependence and overpopulation is the result.

    • Making villians out of heroes is a zionist staple. Any support given to palestinians is a threat to the zionist state but now they have a president in the u.s. who's happy to crush the dreams of all of humanity and end any previous agreements the u.s. had in the arena of human rights, promises previously kept as well as former alliances. tRUMP has heard the dog whistle and finds the notion of helping people, especially people who aren't american or white to be repulsive and has responded accordingly. I wonder what he's going to do with the 200 million he has robbed the babies, children, mothers, fathers, grandparents, etc., who are in desperate need of? This is nothing less than genocide.

      UNRWA - Wikipedia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNRWA
      UNRWA is a main service provider for Palestinian refugees in host countries. It provides jobs for thousands of refugees, education, health care, and various other services that are extremely valuable and necessary.

  • Riveting Thai cave story was missing one element -- Israel to the rescue!
    • Oh FFS, fuck 'israel'. Nothing but self-promotion without a drop of humanitarianism because religious ethnosupremacists don't see non-tribal members as human to begin with. So fuck 'israel' and whatever it does to try to promote an image of compassion and love of humanity while murdering, burning and raping palestine and her people.

      They should have been turned round at the airport. But most of the rest of the world, unlike 'israel', do not pull people out of lines at their airports and send them back to wherever they came from because they had the wrong name and have the wrong ethnoreligious affiliation.

  • Wah!!! Dershowitz shunned on Martha's Vineyard!
    • It would be so nice if the upper crusties on Martha's Vineyard had shunned him for his so-called case for israel. Can't wait for that to happen! Would that be considered a crime by Herr Schumer, et al?

    • Martha's Vineyard high society burn

      News & Politics

      'You Are Complicit': Martha's Vineyard Residents Blast 'Shunned' Alan Dershowitz in Scathing Emails

      “Rather than ruin parties, porches, and beaches, let’s just not talk because there’s no issue to discuss.”

      By Chris Sosa / AlterNet

      July 5, 2018, 5:11 AM GMT

      Former friends of Alan Dershowitz are firing back after the renowned Harvard defense attorney whined in an op-ed that he was being socially “shunned” for defending President Donald Trump.

      Dershowitz is a Democrat who financially supported Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. He’s drawn fire for defending Trump in the media and espousing a libertarian-leaning view that there should be no special counsel investigating Trump.

      Walter Teller, a well-known entertainment lawyer and longtime resident of Martha’s Vineyard, sent a scathing group email to Derschowitz explaining exactly why he’d been booted from the social club. An individual who received a forwarded version shared it with the press.
      “You thereby gave Trump an opportunity to use you and your positions in his own defense, to wave you like his pom-pom. How unfortunate for all of us,” Teller wrote. “You defended and gave cover to this president who relentlessly disrupts and destroys all that we value and causes massive and lasting damage to our political system, our courts, our standing in the world, the environment and more. In all of that you are complicit.”

      “You proudly announce where you have dined and with whom, going so far as to send out pictures of the menu of your meal with Trump at the White House,” he contiued. “And then you complain publicly when you are not invited to dinner.”

      Nicholas Negroponte, founder of both the MIT Media Lab and nonprofit One Laptop per Child, neatly summed up the situation in an email of his own to Dershowitz.

      “Well-known 20th century dictators enjoyed the support of public intellectuals,” Negroponte wrote. “Rather than ruin parties, porches, and beaches, let’s just not talk because there’s no issue to discuss.”

    • Such a funny story! I saw it earlier somewhere else and thought what gall he has to complain he's being shunned by the regulars at Martha's Vineyard. Shame on his so-called friends for waiting so long, or is he so full of himself he finally sees that he's not welcome? Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Pervert.

  • 'This is apartheid, there is no better word for it': Calls for boycott growing among mainstream Israelis
    • Marnie: Not sure what you mean by the death knell and Israeli pain. His whole editorial seems to be aiming at the problem that Israel isn’t being made to feel any pain, and should be. Could you please clarify?

      I hope so. I agree that israel isn't made to suffer - no sanctions, no condemnation followed by action and normalization of an occupation. israelis have not been properly motivated to change and since they haven't responded to 'talk', action is all that's left. Palestinians and anyone else with a brain see this situation can't go on for much longer without horrible bloodshed. Death is at the door, but israelis are oblivious because death isn't at their door, but someone elses.

    • Thank you Danaa for your thoughts.

      "I am trying to go a step beyond his dire diagnosis and prognosticate about an even darker future ahead."

      It's not hard to at all, is it? The problem with david harel, besides his continued declaration of love for the selfish, hateful and murderous bitch also known as the 'state of israel', is, with all of his education, still sugar coats the death knell that awaits all of us in this region if 'israel' isn't made to feel any pain.

  • US Jewish leader expresses compassion for refugees at US border-- and contempt for Palestinian refugees
    • You should probably leave then and save your drip-by-drip harrowing tales of adventure and near death for more peaceful shores. May I suggest Alabama - seems like it would be a great fit.

      So ironic that 'thousands of syrian civilians are fleeing towards' blah, blah, blah.

      I smell a photo op/propaganda tour coming soon!!

  • Slouching toward Gilead (or how Zionism collapses into anti-feminism)
    • Last line should state "tired of".

    • "And hatred of women is built into Jewish Orthodoxy. Women are considered property. Marriage is a purchase of a woman by a man from her previous owner, her father, who according to Jewish law may sell her into slavery if he so wishes. One could argue, and it would be an easy argument to make, that the Orthodoxy became more anti-women with the advance of women’s rights – just as Orthodoxy itself is a reaction to the Reform and Haskala movements. The proper name for Jewish Orthodoxy is Jewish reaction."

      And this, like the bald racism and hatred shown to 'the other', makes these morons scratch their heads and lament the loss of jewish pussy to 'other' cocks. Lama? Gee, maybe it could be that some jewish women are tried of fucking themselves for the good of the tribe.

  • Birthright walkout is met with vitriolic rage in Israel -- 'Radicals' 'You will get raped'
    • It's not a cultural thing from my experience and some friends whose grown children live with them because they can't afford their own place because the pay is shit and the cost of living astronomical (as would be expected considering how things are run and of course the high cost (moral decay/decline as well as monetary) of the continuing occupation of half the population.

    • Around the same time 'liberal' came to be seen as a force for evil instead of good maybe. There should be a dictionary for these words, they aren't new words by any means, but their their definition is no longer the same.

    • I didn't realize how rape is the fantasy of so many israeli men and women. They wish it upon women who denounce the 'state', as if it is their due for their lack of enthusiasm for the zionist state. Rape is horrible and something that scars you for life, but its not the worst thing that can happen. It doesn't make you hate yourself nearly as much as complicity does.

  • NY insurgent who said 'Dems can't be silent anymore' about Palestine clips AIPAC poodle in primary shocker
    • Some of the so-called liberal left democrats dropped a few bricks wrt her victory also. This has got to be a huge wakeup call to them. Maybe if they can stop demonizing Maxine Waters for a minute they'll realize what happened to them!

      "This is a massacre. I hope my peers have the moral courage to call it such. No state or entity is absolved of mass shootings of protesters. There is no justification. Palestinian people deserve basic human dignity, as anyone else. Democrats can’t be silent about this anymore."

      You might be the only one with the moral courage among your 'peers'. Seems like you stand alone, but continue to stand tall. Congratulations and best wishes Ms. Ocasio-Cortez!

  • Israeli left leader says intermarriage by U.S. Jews is 'actual plague' and he vows to find 'a solution'
    • Well, the israeli version of judaism is a 2-fer - zionism and some judaism thrown in. You can be a zionist and an atheist, as many here are, but you can't be jewish and not a zionist, they are making no distinction between the 2 but of course if you refuse to accept zionism, spit on it, hate it and fight against it because it goes against humanity and judaism, well, they got an answer for that too. You are:
      1) A self-hating jew.
      2) Not a 'real' jew.
      3) An enemy of the state and the zionist people.

    • From the picture he looks like he's really hurting himself to find the solution. Someone should tell him it's only a religion. There are a lot of wonderful people in the world who aren't jewish and are awesome. There are people who are jewish but not zionists and they are awesome. What does it mean to be a jew anyway? To hold one's nose with one hand and tithe to the zionist state with the other or to look at it head on and say it stinks, it doesn't represent anything I can identify with and if you can't understand that, I'm burning my membership card but FFS quit crying about it and do the right thing for once.

  • Hitchhiking to Treblinka
    • Too late for sweet talk jd.

    • "There are no Jews in Poland, because they were exterminated."

      If you read the post by talkback, there are in fact jews in poland as we write, almost 1/4 million in fact.

      "Jews need to escape from people like you." What a repugnant remark, signaling there is no argument for your insistence that there must be a jewish state. However, palestinians could argue quite successfully that they need a state to escape from people just like you, but that ship has sailed because of people just like you and one state for all is what's left and what's right.

    • Try being a woman living in a 'man's world'. We have no value unless of a certain age (20 or less?), size and non-threatening intellect. When we say 'no' to a person who isn't a woman, he will oftentimes believe it means yes. What little autonomy we have over our bodies and reproductive choices are being stripped away by the very beings who would have found a cure for menstrual cramps (that didn't cause cancer) if they had to deal with it and probably pregnancy, among other things that afflict/affect only women. A taliban bigshot claimed there were only 2 places for women, in the house or in the ground. Certain jews will hold up a flight because he had to sit next to a woman. A friend told me about a guy who was looking for a job where she worked, but as his would be supervisor was a woman, he spent the interview with his eyes closed. I could go on and on but I know who I'm responding to.

    • "A mantra went through my head: A society will not prosper unless it treats its Jews well. That’s a blackmail I heard down through the years, an understanding murmured or stated in Jewish organizational and communal life. We are an economic engine; America has done so well economically because it has treated Jews well.”

      That blackmail has a source. It's the same blackmail that the zionists use, especially the evangelical ones.

      Genesis 12:3 King James Version (KJV)
      3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

      It makes me wonder who were/are these Hebrews and I find that I can't buy it. If there is a Creator who made us all, then we're all the same.

      “A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members.” Mahatma Gandhi. Jews are not the weakest members of the united states by any stretch of the imagination. The u.s. is just another nation headed for the trashbin of history, like the zionist state.

  • Democrats are losing their fear of AIPAC and Haim Saban
    • All the articles printed on MW about violence against palestinians, the ongoing occupation and america's complicity with it are staggering. A few democrats finally speak up against the actions against protestors in Gaza and it makes a headline? Until u.s. senators demand direct action against the israeli government with sanctions and everything possible, this is nothing but clickbait. I'm sorry Phil, maybe you see something else but I believe there is no there, there.

  • 'Ali is on the grill!' Israeli settlers celebrate burning of Palestinian baby
    • 'Ali is on the grill!’ Israeli settlers celebrate burning of Palestinian baby
      Israel/Palestine
      Jonathan Ofir on June 21, 2018

      One sentence speaks volumes about the zionist experiment and explains why this experiment is a complete failure and must end, by any means necessary.

  • Palestinian official links US withdrawal from UN human rights body with US taking 'crying babies from their parents’
    • More whataboutery from certified tree surgeon, jon66. You're a gross one. How can you possibly be 'a husband, father and a surgeon'? Standards are steadily dropping in all 3 categories.

    • Sara Netanyahu charged with fraud for ordering $96k worth of meals ...
      https://www.haaretz.com › Israel News

      Sorry it's not boobie, but 'netanyahu' and 'charged with' in the same sentence is a start!

    • Jon66 -
      the stephen miller of mondoweiss. You are one cold-hearted shit. Do you like looking at pictures too, like stephen miller? I bet your taste runs toward photos of the carnage israel has visited upon the palestinians, doesn't it? And I bet you just can't keep your hands off yourself while you look.

  • Roger Waters plays Munich despite mayor's effort to stop concert over his support for BDS
    • I'm anxiously awaiting the day when a person who calls another person an antisemite will face prosecution for a hate crime. I'm still hoping that very soon it will be considered too much of an embarrassing thing to do, like farting in church/mosque/synagogue or being donald tRUMP.

    • That you have to travel to Bavaria to use public facilties? They better have a bullet train.

  • Mal Hyman's outspokenness on Gaza massacre is a sign of things to come in Democratic races
    • Wow, I'm days out from your posting Nathan but was struck by this - 'one of those two states will be Israel, that very state founded by Jews in 1948.'

      Jews 'found' it? That is as ridiculous as the 'discovery' of america! the jews officially stole it in 1948; the british stole 'america' in 1607 from the indigenous, the 'americans' stole it from the british in 1776 and finished what the british started. Neither place were lost in need of finding. They were both inhabited, then had their habitat stolen/destroyed and people run off, murdered, raped, etc.

  • Killings shouldn't be necessary for world to hear Gaza voices
    • Nathan - "My response to you was an attempt to show you that there is a different way of seeing the events."

      No, it wasn't nearly as straightforward as that. I'm not interested in your opinion and am familiar with the POV from the occupation side. Nothing can whitewash it or make it more palatable. The 'state' of israel is an evil enterprise and it's existence is a gigantic stain on humanity. When I hear pundits decry the so called 'bias' of the u.n. against the zionist state, it's really just too much to bear. The cancer that is zionism has an unmovable hold on its host (the rest of the world). It was set up with criminal intent and death aforethought; herzl, ben gurion and co., were very clear about the future of the palestinian people and their land. This can't be fixed, only destroyed. The israeli jews who are on board with a democratic state for all, citizenship for all, the same laws for all, etc., fantastic, hallelujah and it will be great. A religious supremacist state is not the future, it's the past. The status quo is untenable. And that's it. I can't be more clear. Except for one thing - mass murderers and criminals in the israeli gov't cannot be allowed to participate in any future 'state' or any future, period. One of the biggest mistakes the u.s. made, besides the election in 2016, IMO, was to allow the secessionists to live after the south surrendered in 1865. Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis, along with officers of the confederate army should have been executed. That would have sent a very strong message of justice and deterrence I think, much like the trials and subsequent hangings of nazi big shots and little shots in nuremberg.

    • I'm puzzled that my comment would be commended by you nathan. My point was not against the protesting or the way the protests are carried out, but the IOF's response to the protests. Lethal and maiming for life. I don't understand why you would twist my intentions but realize that being a supporter of the IOF and 'state' of israel is a lonely job and you're looking for assistance but you won't find it in my posts no matter what you say.

    • Nikki Haley is just another pit bull working for tRUMP. What a despicable human being. Palestinian deaths don't matter.

      2018 Gaza border protests - Wikipedia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Gaza_border_protests

      "As of 21 May 2018, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Gaza, the casualty breakdown was as follows:
      112 Killed of whom 13 were under 18
      13,190 Injured

      The injured
      7,618 struck by Live ammunition or rubber bullets
      5,572 affected by Tear-gas causing symptoms of suffocation
      332 Critically injured
      3,422 Moderately injured
      9,436 Lightly injured
      2,096 Children injured
      1,029 Women injured

      Amputations
      32 amputations

      Medical personal
      1 paramedic from the Palestinian Civil Defense killed
      223 medics injured by either live fire or tear-gas suffocation

      Material damage.
      37 ambulances partly damaged.

      Journalists
      2 journalists were killed.
      175 journalists were injured.[198][199]

      On 17 April 2018, The World Health Organization (WHO) voiced concern that nearly 350 people may be temporarily or permanently disabled.[200]

      The head of WHO's office in Gaza, Gerald Rockenschaub, described the casualties as overwhelming an already weak health care system: "the deteriorating humanitarian situation is extremely worrying. Hospitals in Gaza are overwhelmed with the influx of injured patients. With further escalations expected during the coming weeks, the increasing numbers of injured patients requiring urgent medical care is likely to devastate Gaza's already weakened health system, placing even more lives at risk."[201]

      The Commissioner General of UNRWA stated that the ammunition used by Israel caused severe internal damage to internal organs, muscle tissue and bones. A Palestinian doctor interviewed by CNN stated that about a half of the wounded people would never walk normally again. The head of Plastic and Reconstructive surgery of the Shifa Hospital in Gaza wrote a letter to the British Medical Journal stating that "from the appearance of the wounds there appears to have been systematic use by Israeli Defence Force snipers of ammunition with an expanding ‘butterfly’ effect.", and stated that since the surgical procedures and rehabilitation facilities are not available in Gaza due to 2014 conflict and the blockade of Gaza, "mass lifelong disability is now the prospect facing Gazan citizens, largely young". The Israeli military stated that they only used normal sniper ammunition, and fired at the feet and legs to minimize civilian casualties.[202][203]"

  • Organizer of the Great March of Return says protests in Gaza 'must go on'
    • A religion isn't a civilization. Get a grip already and lay off the pipe. There's nothing civil about 'israel'.

    • Very boorish, Boris. You shouldn't take the zionist propaganda so freaking serious, it's all a game.

    • "The Great March of Return must go on. There is simply no alternative to peaceful popular resistance. But we also need to take a step back and think about how we can reduce its cost in lives and injuries to our people, so that we may be able to nurture and grow this new form of resistance.

      Our struggle for freedom is long, and its victory will be the fruit of countless efforts and sacrifices. The occupation state has been revealed as the main perpetrator of murders and massacres, and its aim is clear: to raise the cost of the Great March of Return until we ourselves abandon this path."

      Never stop.

  • If I had to live in Israel again, 'it would actually drive me insane' -- Shaul Magid
    • A real progressive would be able to get the get already and be through with zionism. The term liberal has been co-opted by zionists who don't want to be seen as being the same as netanyahu and co and the settler vermin trash. Okay, so he's a 'liberal zionist'

      "Not every academic in Indiana is a weird racist. :)"

      I know, there's non-white academics in indiana too. ;^)

    • "I’m going to push back, and hard. You’re presenting pretty standard far-right Arab nationalist ideas, with which Mondoweissers agree, so it’s important to emphasize how delusional you are."

      Do you realize this is a web site and not a 12-step group?

      I don't think anyone could use an intervention except for maybe your friend (JeffB - honey, is that you?)

    • I don't think this guy sounds any different than any other 'liberal zionist' variety. He goes back 1 or 2 times a year. He still refers to himself as an israeli citizen. He goes back for 'professional reasons'. And of all places he could teach, it's Indiana??? One of the weirder racist states north of the mason-dixon line I've ever been to. It doesn't sound like he's had an epiphany.

  • 'Let them eat candy' – Israel’s ideological war against incendiary kites from Gaza
    • I know, it's really hard to believe but that's the way they roll in Zioland - terrorist kites, incendiary kites, etc., what's the most moral army in the world supposed to do? Get out your sharpshooters and shoot, shoot and shoot some more. Then cry (see jon s) that Hamas made them do it and they lost count of the bullets. Who knows know how they'll keep their shit when the protestors roll out their Slinky snakes or Hoops and Ladders. God forbid a game of Candyland.

    • @Mooser

      '(If you want to read him at his creepiest…yup, he’s creep.).'

      Oh my. TMI. I think he was trying to get as much help from Ms Abarbanel as this space and her compassion would allow.

    • 'All national anthems are cheesy.'

      O'er the land of the free, and the home of the whey.

    • I'm so sorry. I just realized why the u.s. won't change the new tRUMP administration policy of separating children from their parents - first, the precedent set during the 200+ years of slavery and the forced separation of indigenous tribe's children to reducation camps ('christian' education), but if the u.s. does the right thing towards their neighbors from Mexico and other places south of the u.s. southern border, the zionist state is going to be next on the chopping block for it's quaint practice of middle of the night kidnappings of palestinian children. Silly me!

    • 'Our hope is not yet lost,
      The hope two thousand years old,
      To be a free nation in our land,
      The land of Zion and Jerusalem'

      I can't believe something so cheesy is anyone's anthem. However, the notion that jews weren't free is ridiculous and that they had a land empty and waiting for them insane, but that's what they use to justify the sin. Modern jews have nothing to run from or to because of danger and fear. Historically there were times, but I don't want to give a big opening for the A.P., the multiple jon's and others to wax neurotic about.

      In our lifetime and under our noses are people who are literally running for their lives and for a chance for their children to live a life with freedoms they don't currently have. Those people on the us/Mexico border, who are seeking asylum and being turned away, go in the 'wrong' way and get violently separated from their children.
      The Rohingya - fleeing for their lives to escape what is clearly a genocide in Myanmar.
      Syria -
      In Rwanda, the Tutsis given no sanctuary and 1 million slaughtered.
      There have been more since the age of 'never again'.
      I can't identify with them because I was never pursued, threatened and abused and neither were the jon's and the other fruits and nuts on these pages. FFS look at see what it is to be seeking sanctuary in the 21st century and you won't find jews among them. It's all been a game.

    • Mooser
      June 18, 2018, 5:22 pm

      I’ll leave it up to “Marnie”, to determine if “Jon s” addressing Avigail Abarbanel is “creepy”.

      Mooser - What'd I do to you?

    • There are no citizens and that includes you and I. Wrap your head around that jon s and you may get the beginning of what it is like to be a palestinian in palestine surrounded by a majority population in the nebulous 'israel' who see you as an enemy, an animal, dangerous, a terrorist and one who needs to go away, either by choice or by force, either to another place or in the ground. Imagine walking around with a target on your back and your head in the crosshairs of a 'soldier'.

      "Hamas will cry that they're innocent victims...."

      Worried about job security?

    • American Perspective

      is not necessary here. You'll get plenty of hugs at the JPost, Haaretz and Arutz Sheva. Bye!!!

    • "Does anyone expect the IDF to just sit by and watch our country burn?"

      When their time is better spent killing medics and children and maiming thousands? Putting out fires they're responsible for in the first place seems like an excellent use of their time. If they get bored maybe they can shoot each other. And it's not your country. Whine to anyone else who might give a rat's ass.

    • That is a great idea Ossinev.

    • "They need water. They need a life."

      Which is exactly why they won't get it.

    • typical zionist 'gifts' with obligatory strings attached. What's going to be really interesting will be to see how the MSM will go into overdrive about the largesse of 'israel'. This is one of the more disgusting publicity stunts yet.

  • A Palestinian disfigured by tear gas canister reflects on change in his life
    • This is horrible. A day doesn't go by when something else equally horrible or worse happens to palestinian people. I can barely look at the photo here, let alone go to the link provided. Words aren't enough. Anger isn't enough.

      Leave it to hasbara to what about this, minimize it, bring up a dead jewish baby or talk about the IOF's great restraint, their honor and the hysterical homeland of the jews.

  • Israeli lawmaker: 'Jewish race is the greatest human capital, the smartest'
  • Israeli outpost is evacuated without a shot, even as settlers throw stones
  • The World Cup on one leg on the Gaza border
  • Imagine the KKK doing a biopic of MLK and you get... 'Fauda'
    • Jon66

      I'm sorry Jon66, I keep getting you mixed up with jons - you two are indistinguishable to me. Could you guys help me out and flip a coin to see which jon/Jon will start going by 'Richard' from now on? Thanking you in advance..

    • "And while 50 years ago the term “negro” may not have been offensive to blacks it surely isn’t the preferred term in the 21st century. And while I can excuse that, (maybe your an 80yr old coot?) there is definitely no excuse for your ignorance about zionist, Israel and black folks. we live with and amongst thousands of black people. There is some racism here as it exists in most nations with multi cultural populations. despite this there area dark skinned, mocha skinned, light skinned and biracial Israeli Africans in all walks of israeli life. but how would you know this excerpt from the hate-sites you frequent."

      You are ignorant. I'm using a word that has you (faux) apoplectic, but the term was used by Dr. King and Malcolm X among others and am using it to make yet another point you don't get. Cushi is used all the time which means 'nigger' though racist apologists will claim it means black - it doesn't, there is a word for black, brown, red, yellow, etc., so don't go down that road. You need smelling salts because I used the term "Negro"? You hypocrite.

      As far as the rest - 'there is some racism here, blah, blah, blah'. Yes. I know. See it and hear about it daily. It's funny how people other than actual black people always seem to set the bar for what's an acceptable level of racism - to you types, any level is acceptable. It doesn't affect you so who cares, right? I think your definition of racism and what's acceptable is about as relevant as the opinion of any klansman or alt-right kind of guy, another richard you may have heard of, Richard Spencer.

      But you quickly sound the alarm with criticism of 'israel' and zionism and regularly conflate that criticism with antisemitism. Figures.

      No, I'm not an '80-year-old coot'! That's up the road apiece you little whippersnapper, watch yerself sonny.

    • It isn't a question about 'the average Palestinian's ability to cut through B.S. silly!

      If there's a question about anyone's abilities, it's the zionist audience that is in question, obviously.

      "Miki Zohar: I’ll tell you one basic thing, so that maybe someone who’s sitting there at home would listen to me well, and maybe those who are sitting at the studios and at editorials would listen well to me:

      The public in the state of Israel is a public which belongs to the Jewish race [sic], and the whole Jewish race is the greatest human capital [sic], and the smartest and the most understanding, and sometimes also the most educated…"

      You don't actually believe this garbage do you DaBakr? Jews are not only a race, but the greatest, smartest, the most understanding, and SOMETIMES .....???

    • DaBakr
      June 16, 2018, 4:20 pm

      @mrn

      Sorry, not trying to pick on you but saying that “only Palestinians…… Should make Palestinian base shows” is borderline fascist.

      DaBakr - you're joking right? Everything on israeli television is controlled by zionists and most of what zionists say about palestinians is propaganda driven. zionists have controlled the narrative as I stated very clearly which doesn't bother zionists at all because they've got all the money, the weapons and the u.s. in their back pocket. And, by your definition above, israel is clearly fascist, no borderline about it because, indulge me this bon mot, 'israel' doesn't know a damn thing about borders - hahaha!!!

      If you don't understand my posts, it's because you don't want to and to prove I'm not trying to pick on you, here is a guide for the perplexed:
      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=what%20a%20richard

    • DaBakr
      June 14, 2018, 9:54 pm

      '11) the “kkk- mlk ” analogy is absurd.'

      DaBakr brought up MLK - I responded to it. Get your lies straight - we've been through that too many times to count.

      jon s - 'from an interview a few days before his death'

      He was murdered ssob.

    • "Marnie,
      We have been through this before too many times to count here.
      MLK was most certainly a Zionist."

      You're so funny! Dr. King's life was cut short before he could see what was really happening with his own eyes, not through the eyes of the adl or aipac. the jdl was founded the year of Dr. King's death, and being a man with a peaceful vision, would not doubt have been horrified. Folks like you slay me jon s and not in a good way at all. You'll tokenize Dr. King to suit your agenda, but had he lived long enough to see the horror that is the 'state of israel', he'd be banned from entry and demonized by every cushim-calling zionist dirtbag here.

    • zionist revisionist history would slander MLK as a 'devout zionist' but this is zionist bullshit and he's zionist's favorite kind of Negro - dead.

    • "the “kkk- mlk ” analogy is absurd" said the zionist. Nothing gets past you richard.

    • The only people who should be producing films, television shows, etc., about palestinian life is palestinians. Nothing else will do. Learn from other people's mistakes about allowing their stories to be told by a murderous antagonist and take back your history and tell it yourselves. For the most part, the only POV out there has been a zionist one and the repercussions of that are immense. Don't allow the zionist state's alternative facts and universe tell your history; they've been doing it for about 100 years and have completely poisoned the minds of most people.

      Would you invite an arsonist to your barbecue or a pedophile to your child's birthday party? Same thing here.

    • "Understand that having former members of the Israeli military write and direct a show about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is akin to having KKK leaders produce and direct a biopic on Martin Luther King Jr. I’m not saying they’re definitely going to get it wrong, but the chances of them providing an accurate and unbiased production go out the window when the pointy white hoods are still on."

      That's all you need to know. Seriously, I'm way past the point of being able to tolerate much of anything that has no authentic foundation. The writers are literally the occupation FFS! I no longer expect a male doctor to understand my body nor will I put my health care in their hands. It's not exactly the same thing, but letting someone else tell your story, especially the ENEMY, is a big, big mistake. I make it a point to never watch israeli 'entertainment' of any kind (it's so easy to avoid never see it) so will never watch this drek until the day it might be part of archival footage on the history channel about the shame and crime that was the state of israel.

  • The dangers of conflating anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism
    • I think Jews, in particular 'liberals' have a lot to prove wrt palestine and palestinians. A lesson from Malcom X that I thought might be helpful?

      Interview with Malcolm X | A. B. Spellman | Monthly Review
      https://monthlyreview.org/2005/02/01/interview-with-malcolm-x/

      "Spellman: What kind of coalition do you plan to make? Can whites join the Muslim Mosque Inc.?

      Malcolm X: Whites can’t join us. Everything that whites join that Negroes have they end up out-joining the Negroes. The whites control all Negro organizations that they can join—they end up in control of those organizations. If whites want to help us financially we will accept their financial help, but we will never let them join us.

      Spellman: Then black leadership is necessary?

      Malcolm X: Absolutely black leadership.

      Spellman: Will you work with the so-called “established” civil rights organizations?

      Malcolm X: Well, we will work with them in any area and on any objective that doesn’t conflict with our own political, economic, and social philosophy which is black nationalism. I might add that I was invited to attend a civil rights group meeting where all of the various civil rights organizations were present and I was invited to address them in Chester, Pennsylvania. Gloria Richardson was there; Landrey, the head of the Chicago School Boycott, was there; Dick Gregory was there; many others were there; the Rochedale movement was there. Now my address to them was designed to show them that if they would expand their civil rights movement to a human rights movement it would internationalize it. Now, as a civil rights movement, it remains within the confines of American domestic policy and no African independent nations can open up their mouths on American domestic affairs, whereas if they expanded the civil rights movement to a human rights movement then they would be eligible to take the case of the Negro to the United Nations the same as the case of the Angolans is in the UN and the case of the South Africans is in the UN. Once the civil rights movement is expanded to a human rights movement our African brothers and our Asian brothers and Latin American brothers can place it on the agenda at the General Assembly that is coming up this year and Uncle Sam has no more say-so in it then. And we have friends outside the UN—700,000,000 Chinese who are ready to die for human rights.

      Spellman: Do you intend to collaborate with such other groups as labor unions or socialist groups or any other groups?

      Malcolm X: We will work with anybody who is sincerely interested in eliminating injustices that Negroes suffer at the hands of Uncle Sam.

      Spellman: What is your evaluation of the civil rights movement at this point?

      Malcolm X: It has run its—it’s at the end of its leash.

      Spellman: What groups do you consider most promising?

      Malcolm X: I know of no group that is promising unless it’s radical. If it’s not radical it is in no way involved effectively in the present struggle.

      Spellman: Some local civil rights leaders lave said they’d welcome your support, some national leaders have said they want nothing to do with you, what is your reaction?

      Malcolm X: Well, the local civil rights leaders are usually involved right in the midst of the situation. They see it as it is and they realize that it takes a combination of groups to attack the problem most effectively and, also, most local civil rights leaders have more independence of action and usually they are more in tune and in touch with the people. But the national leaders of the civil rights movement are out of touch with the problem and usually they are paid leaders. The local leaders usually have a job and they lean against the local situation on the side, but the nationally known leaders are paid. They are full-time leaders, they are professional leaders and whoever pays their salary has a great say-so in what they do and what they don’t do, so naturally the ones who pay the salaries of these nationally known Negro leaders are the white liberals and white liberals are shocked and frightened whenever you mention anything about some X’s."

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