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  • Netanyahu mentions 'BDS' 18 times in denouncing movement and its 'gullible fellow travelers'
    • Walid says:
      March 5, 2014 at 5:46 am

      "Respect and sanctity of all other heavenly religions"

      you surely are joking.....thousand year old buddhist statues blown up in afghanistan,churches burnt down in egypt,pilgrims bombed,camels smoked the list goes on and the devil makes his plans .................

      lo and behold

      tarry not on the road to the holy land for the gatekeeper awaits,judgement book in hand.

    • Justpassingby says:
      March 4, 2014 at 1:06 pm

      " type the words backwards (see the pic), he have the paper upside down :)"

      now you know what he thinks of the whole charade.circus coming to town

  • 'It was clear to me as a black person just what I was seeing around me': Report from an African-American delegation to Israel/Palestine
    • Bill Simonds on March 3, 2014 4 says

      " This is really important for us to understand, because Apartheid itself was constructed to a great extent looking at Jim Crow segregation in the United States."

      is that right bill simonds,you mean like the caste system in india,

      you went to israel and the black/ white racial apartheid clearly does not exist,especially to the extent it did in america and even today in some areas,so you have decided to change the definition of apartheid to fit the narrative to support the boycott ..............propaganda is what it is called

      where were you bill simonds,rev boyd,rev hagler of the Presbyterians

      where was the church when jews faced apartheid and genocide?

      Rev. Boyd challenged Fletcher to explain the designation of Israel as an Apartheid state. Fletcher first explained that the designation of the crime of Apartheid refers to a particular form of racial oppression, and that Apartheid in South Africa was but one example:

      racial oppression ? hasbara fail

      Rev hagler says ........."some kids" must be kidding

      " I don’t know whether you call that post-traumatic stress or whatever you call that, but the reality is I just could not, for the life of me, produce some papers on demand for some kids pointing some assault weapons at me."


      interfaith peace is a good thing

      faith is what the conflict is about....stick to that with it ....peace will come ,a great victory for the 3 companions of abram

  • Thought experiment. Dateline Ukraine
    • Shingo

      you are so aggressive with the detailed point by point block quote lightly coloured background that i will throw the towel on the gas issue
      Rest assured when the gas arrives at your house you will boycott it and use only home grown organic naturally produced gas
      none of this vile israeli gas for advice sir,eat more beans.

    • Itzik says that the deal is done and the reseves are kept a secret but evidently there is 1165 trillion cubic feet which is almost 3 fingers in dilation per compressed volume,take that as a base multiplier and you have over 50 years supply at the present consumption rate

    • kalithea says:
      February 28, 2014 at 10:2

      year one....iranian eartquake

    • more fuel for the fire-or should i say gas.............

      MOSCOW: Ukraine owes Russian gas giant Gazprom a "huge" debt of $1.55 bn for unpaid gas and may not be able to keep the discount it currently enjoys for Russian gas imports, the firm said on Saturday.

    • its a gas gas gas .....the great gas war competition for european gas markets


      In January 2009, this disagreement resulted in supply disruptions in many European nations, with eighteen European countries reporting major drops in or complete cut-offs of their gas supplies transported through Ukraine from Russia............and now this

      Israel is now an energy exporter. Israel is now exporting natural gas and will soon become one of the largest natural gas suppliers in the world. This new reality is likely to change the entire economy of the Middle East. In fact, it just might reshape the entire world supply and demand graph of natural gas.

      thats sums up the russian support of syria ,the russian arms supply to israels neighbours,but most important of all eu countries will now have access to cheaper gas and break the russian monopoly of the european market
      one definite loser will be iran wanting to supply the european markets who will have to compete with israel and russia.

      possible events to watch for

      syria....sunni led,kurdish,alawite regions with local government,assad to remain leader of alawites,kurds northeast,jordanian palestinians south west
      turkey ....political strife increasing to oust present anti israel leadership
      lebanon ....increased pressure on hezbollah and iran to make peace or risk all out war from sunni and israeli military accept framework with political compromises but increased economic benefits from jordan -israeli gas deal
      israel...increased pressure to maintain regional stability in the form of political compromises that come with access to gas markets and to continue to encourage seperation of church from state.
      the parable of jesus and the money changers is a warning from the past........... rabbi pinto and company a good example

  • Harvard students collect testimonies of apartheid from Palestine to US
    • henry norr says

      "If the situation in Palestine doesn’t fall under those definitions, it’s hard to imagine what would, beyond South Africa. (Apparently some Zionists offer the opportunistic defense that Jews and/or Palestinians are not a “racial group,” so these statutes don’t apply, but I don’t think that will get them far.)"

      henry that paragraph right there is the problem.racial defined as

      1. (Anthropology & Ethnology) denoting or relating to the division of the human species into races on grounds of physical characteristics

      relegion on the other hand that calls for a seperation of believers and non believers is a different matter as G-d has instructed his prophets to maintain seperation through his laws.conversions are the order of the day-people have to choose sides so it is the relegion itself that creates the apartheid

      much like in ireland where protestants and catholics are seperated through relegious apartheid
      islamic countries,israel,african countries all enforce in one way or another relegious apartheid

  • Political Zionism is destroying a culture and a people, and intentionally so
    • Anyway the olive branch is a symbol of peace and the american eagle grasping an olive branch in one claw and arrows in another is a potent reminder of the possibilities in kerry,s framework

    • Naftush says

      "suspect" narratives

      you are correct but you need to understand the presybies have been left out since the league of nations days but that still does not change the fact that the real message is ........zionism has stuffed up but we presybies can do better.he is planting the trees a symbolic gesture on behalf of the flock back home while at the same time making the support the local indig gesture
      I read an interesting article today on al akhbar,they have a few good writers and it was on abbas and his efforts to mediate in the syrian conflict
      quiet interesting because several palestinian proposals were implemented,one on chemical weapons and also that assad remains to lead another day,geneva 2 stuff
      so here you have this guy planting trees while the palestinian leadership are busy at work controlling the narrative in syria and lebanon to there advantage.

  • Mayor of Canadian city invites Ehud Barak to economic summit
    • Palestinian refugee destinations will include canada,australia,new zealand,and it will be the capitalist economies that fund it .......hows that for a ideological construction

  • Jewish community commits intellectual suicide before our eyes
    • Jewish community commits intellectual suicide before our eyes
      Philip Weiss on February 21, 2014 193 says

      "It’s tragic, and embarrassing. The Jewish community is rebranding Jewish culture, "

      Shmully and guilt
      Philip Weiss on April 26, 2012 462

      "I took some of the cookies I had not been able to eat from the night before and closed the heavy front door after me. It was 6 a.m. and still dark on Shabbos. I drove back home wondering how I was going to mend my ways."

      {scared of israel,s shadow ,i sneaked out in the early hours of the dawn,cookies in hand.}

      from the Book of Guilt ......the story of a jewish left wing anti zionist special forces operator and his struggle to mend his ways

  • Adalah founder assails myth of 'Jewish and democratic' state
    • Hassan jabba jabba

      who are kidding ......the flood israel with arabs through quickie marriage scam is an old one practised worldwide by various nations
      Trying to make it political earns you negative bonus points

  • Effort to remove Jews from West Bank is akin to Nazi slaughter -- settler spokesman
    • Talknic says............yet it was israel


      does not change the fact that moslems have restricted jews from visiting jewish holy sites in jerusalem and hebron.
      the settler movement has ensured that jews worldwide have access to there holy sites.
      that is there main responsibility
      no amount of arab propaganda sprouted by you can change the historical ties jews have to hebron and jerusalem

    • Daniel rich says...........

      the Nut Z

      well one mans lunatic is another man,s butternut

    • James North and Phil Weiss on February 19, 2014

      nice piece guys especially the follow thru with the "" Hostage says:
      February 20, 2014 at 12:35 am""

      but you are wasting your is the link take the trip

      when you get to the halfway down you read this

      Israeli authority[edit]

      Cave of the Patriarchs, 2010
      After the Israeli victory in 1967, in which Israel gained control of Hebron, the first Jew who entered the Cave of Machpelah for about 700 years, was the Chief Rabbi of the Israel Defense Forces, Major general Rabbi Shlomo Goren. "About 700 years ago, the Muslim Mamelukes conquered Hebron, declared the structure a mosque and forbade entry to Jews, who were not allowed past the seventh step on a staircase outside the building.

      all things considered the gentleman above ,a mr wilder,knows why he is in hebron and the answer is simple.

      he is there to ensure that the days of forbidding jews entry to jewish holy sites in israel are over.

  • Great Britain’s 100 year war on the Arab world

      Maralinga....subjects of the empire as guinea pigs

      The McClelland Royal Commission of 1984–1985 identified significant residual contamination at some sites. British and Australian servicemen were purposely exposed to fallout from the blasts, to study radiological effects. The local Aboriginal people have claimed they were poisoned by the tests and, in 1994, the Australian Government reached a compensation settlement withMaralinga Tjarutja of $13.5 million in settlement of all claims in relation to the nuclear testing.[6] Previously many of these facts were kept from the public.

  • The campaign against BDS is a deliberate choice to maintain the status quo
    • says who

      "The campaign against BDS is a deliberate choice to maintain the status quo
      David Schwartzman and Mai Abdul Rahman on February 18, 2014"

      the campaign to discredit hophmi is a ..........deliberate choice to maintain the status quo on mondoweiss
      well so it would seem,but then again they all could be on the same team

  • The alternative is BDS
    • Haidar eid says

      "Transforming Israel from an ethno-religious Apartheid state into a democracy should  be the objective of every single person believing in liberal democracy in general. "

      Liberal democracy the middle east,is a wonderful idea proffesor,the sooner the better.

  • 10,000 Israeli teens follow mother-hen of extremist settler movement in anti-Kerry protest
    • Allison says

      "In fact, of a dozen teens I spoke with, most didn’t even know that the march was scheduled to take place on a controversial hilltop, and none could articulate its strategic importance to both Israeli and Palestinian negotiators."

      Each and every person knew why they were there except you allison. how could you not understand the immense sacrifice that israeli,s have made to ensure that these children grow up in a state that Jews can call there own.

    • Allison says

      "In fact, of a dozen teens I spoke with, most didn’t even know that the march was scheduled to take place on a controversial hilltop, and none could articulate its strategic importance to both Israeli and Palestinian negotiators."

      E1 has been occupied several times,in the news many times in the past year,israel is a small country news travels fast
      in fact

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  • NYT obit of rabbi left out his urging Sharon: 'Very simply, wipe them out'

      The High Commissioner established the authority of the Orthodox Rabbinate over the members of the Jewish community and retained a modified version of the old Ottoman Millet system. Formal recognition was extended to eleven religious communities, which did not include the non-Orthodox Jewish or Protestant Christian denominations.

      "Zionism unsettled" is old news and,got left out from the begining including the reform jews
      the real business was concluded by the league of nations not the UN.

  • Derfner: The boycott isn't economic warfare, it's psychological
    • Bilal a says........russians

      You have a point there but remember too that the russian orthodox church are back big time and are prepared to defend Jerusalem.the war in chechnya was an example of what the russian military are capable of.the same goes for protecting syrian orthodox is no coincidence thay there are over a million russians living in israel.

    • I read a bit of larry derfner and his logic does have some magic to make the medicine go down,but i am convinced that the settler movement is on the right track,regardless of bds which is a throwaway eu economic lever for cheap gas from israel,s gas fields much like the sailing to gaza project was,except turkey blinked.
      the bds is a fully funded eu pressure tactic but they cannot have it both ways and eventually they will have to accept settlement goods that are taxed by the PA
      this movement with weiss and e1 is a sign of things to come in israel.
      one thing i can say for certain that kerry will not be back,and instead Jordan,s king will be the one to break the good news that the money,s in the bank and e1 will become a monument to peace and cooperation between is. and pa.

  • EU Prez Martin Schulz wreaks havoc during speech at Knesset
  • Letter from Al Aqaba on the 'Rebuilding to Remain' campaign
    • Live fire training on residents.......seriously soldiers go to the village and train while residents walk around.looking at the village from google maps all the surrounding fields are being worked,the houses all appear lived in,do i have the right place aqaba between zababida and tubas ?
      when was the live fire exercise ?
      says in the link it has a double story kinder
      maybe i could open a coffee shop,do some art out the back on the weekends
      Sounds like a great place to live.

    • where exactly is al aqaba on the map

  • The killing of Odeh Hamad
  • Free it or f--- it, Palestine comes to Los Angeles
    • Ritzl

      "what was their info input"

      input came from the internet from sites that are anti israel and anti jew

      The grafffitist saw the jewish symbols and reacted giving little thought to the true purpose of the building or group
      i have a saying
      who would put a rock upon a sapling,a blind man searching for a blessing
      In south africa we used to say that when the zulu,s came marching down the streets armed with there traditional weapons anyone with a white skin was in danger regardless of his political beliefs.
      Attacks on zionism and israel can become "lost in translation" as people like to say and jews will be attacked regardless of there political beliefs much like the behaviour of some of the posters on this site.

  • Gaining the 'valuable hatred of their enemies,' boycott movement is educating others
    • Philip Weiss on February 8, 2014 says

      “Gaining the ‘valuable hatred of their enemies,

      .in south africa if any media published articles similar to this one,especially by fellow white south africans there lives would be in danger.i remember a special forces officer bragging to me how they assainated Ruth First with a parcel bomb

  • Coke Super Bowl commercial featured a Palestinian but don't fall for the sugary sweetness
    • i love this one about subliminal messages................."We tapped into the psyche"................anyway who profits,certainly not "american palestinians" and you guys think sodastream is bad because,because, the link below,the last paragraph is quite interesting

      "In fact, the unrest in Egypt has actually led to a positive outcome for Coca-Cola’s business in the country. The situation served as a catalyst for activating new marketing campaigns.

      “We tapped into the psyche of our Egyptian consumers”, explained Mr. Bolden. The company used the notion of “building a future together” by making an effort to portray itself as improving Egypt as a whole. The outcome of the unrest has created an opportunity for Coca-Cola to engage in what Mr. Bolden calls “cultural leadership”.

  • Revealed: Right-wing group StandWithUs' strategy to combat Israel Apartheid Week
  • Israel and apartheid: a response to Hirsh Goodman
    • giladg says:
      February 5, 2014 at 3:41 pm

      "The South African Jewish community seems to have seen better days. An arrogance has crept in over the past 10 years, an arrogance that does not bode well for them"

      giladg---i am ex south african jew,i left in 1991 because i did not want to raise my children in a 3rd world country with limited educational facilities.

      what amused me was the afrikaaners had this attitude that jews were weak and soft and would not last long on the rugby field.
      however they had a lot of respect for israelis almost if they were a different breed of jew all together
      one thing i do know, south african jews donated millions of dollars to israel through jnf
      and other charitable organizations.many of my friends settled in israel and i considered it myself when i visited and stayed on a kibbutz in the 70,s
      had i been an observant jew at the time i probably would have.

      however my experiences have taught me that conflict needs to be carefully managed by remaining flexible in thought and purpose.israelis need to ask themselves as do jews world wide .....what is the end game,how do we stay ahead of the wave that launched israel.

      my rabbi made a speech on friday night about the bible story of moses and the ark and how the poles for carrying it were always left in -his words stayed with me and i think i know what it means----i have limited knowledge of these things so be patient.....
      israel has been founded as a state.the reconnaissance force has done its job but the ark has not been carried in -it still sits in the desert waiting to be picked up and taken to Jerusalem
      the diaspora jews are the ones that have been given that important task
      that is our destiny
      the question is when will israel be ready for the arrival of the ark carried by diaspora jews
      the answer is simple ,when israel as a state and people observe to the letter the mitzvah that comes with the ark.
      that is the endgame

  • I stayed away from Israel just as I stayed away from Nazi Germany -- Hugh Trevor-Roper
    • David hab......

      you write well which is refreshing after reading the useful others but i must question the "influence policies" comment as if pro israel are the only lobby groups.
      those you never read or hear about are the most powerful,those exposed are the most attacked.thats how it works.

    • Citizen says

      "the catholic church deserves to be jabbed"

      what jabbing have you done to the catholic church,i mean like personally.have you attended any protest meetings regarding priests who about on the internet forums,i notice you post anti israel all the time,what about your own relegion,do you ever attack it as much as you attack judaism

  • Kerry's framework according to Friedman and Indyk (Updated: Abbas Weighs In)
    • Dutch

      which times do you refer when jews were expelled from the time of the pharoahs or recently.

    • Woody Tanaka says:
      February 3, 2014 at 2:59 pm

      "Certainly if an Arab state forced out Jews, then those Jews should have recourse,"

      Woody please explain......recourse for what.not sure what point you are trying to is a well known fact that hardly any jews live in arab countries.egypt has one or two and morocco a smattering but thats it.not sure what point you are trying to make but it equates to #HASBARA FAIL

  • The Process
    • today i read about a small ray of sunshine in the israel times online

      this is an important offer and i hope the palestinian people will give it some consideration.a lease of settlements is not only a commercial enterprise but also has a connection in the bible.maybe a cap on numbers,a census to be entered into the book of numbers

      In Genesis, Esau returned to his twin brother Jacob, famished from the fields. He begs Jacob to give him some "red pottage" (a play on his nickname, Hebrew: אדום‎`Edom, meaning "red".) Jacob offers Esau a bowl of stew in exchange for Esau's birthright (the right to be recognized as firstborn with authority over the family), and Esau agrees. Thus Jacob bought/exchanged Esau's birthright. This is believed to be the origin of the English phrase "for a mess of pottage".

      as you can see it has it ups and downs but that is long as it ends fairly

      the british leased hong kong from the chinese so this is not a new concept

      more important it will create a bond on a spiritual level,and a healing that both relegions are in need of.
      this is very important as humanity faces unprecedented challenges in the next 20 years.if judaism and islam can make peace it can also help heal the divide between sunni and shia and the belief in one G-d instead of two.

      let us all pray for a sign ,a guiding light in this decision.

  • 'FT' blast on settlements will strike fear at Hasbara Central (if not among liberal Zionists and 'glitzy blondes')
    • Talkback

      "the right of self determination"

      Did not include jews living outside palestine,
      Does that also apply to arabs living outside palestine
      and which palestine do you refer to
      the one ruled by the ottaman turks or the one under the british mandate

  • Kerry’s billions: US economic plans for Palestine place investment over freedom
    • Krauss says

      Sodastream is a commercial enterprise created solely to enrich its shareholders.they will adapt and move on.
      Oxfam a charity that does important work ,a beacon,was used by both sides of the festering sore called the i/p coflict for political gain
      one has to ask ,as this type of campaign picks up speed ,how many other beacons of society will be trashed by both sides in their pursuit of victory
      this will not play out like the south african sanctions but will cause a lot more collateral damage as both sides begin to dig in

  • SodaStream flap educates Americans about the illegal settlement project
  • Rep. Grimm threatens to throw reporter off Rotunda balcony
    • Seafoid says

      a mitzvah of enlightment"

      A Catholic who prays every Sunday in church gets the loot from a rabbi

  • 'One state for two people' -- Tom Friedman's crystal ball
    • One state solution with palestinians becoming citizens of jordan would be the ideal solution with the borders of jordan expanded into southern syria to accomadate the palestinians of the west bank and diaspora.settlements along the jordan river to secure israels eastern borders.sodastream factory to be closed down and building used as a technical college.scarlett to be named honourary principal
      thats it mondies,problem solved

    • German Lefty says:
      January 29, 2014 at 1:33 pm

      "so what"

      the arabs will not accept a 2 state solution because they believe they can eventually disarm the idf by political means which what all this nonsence is really about.they lost the war,they lost the suicide bombing campaign,now they are trying the "sodastream effect"
      on and on it goes.....for the arabs the 2 state solution is disaster if it cannot weaken the defensive positions of the idf.
      water solutions,access to jerusalem,all these points are just,land issues,are all window dressage
      how do disarm or weaken the idf
      thats the arab goal

  • Human rights advocates meet with Oxfam & Scarlett Johansson reps over concerns with Israeli settlements
  • At Auschwitz: 'The IDF is the Jewish people's answer to the Holocaust'
  • Liberal Zionists support Scarlett Johansson-- and settlements. Why?
  • 'I will not uproot a single Israeli' settler, Netanyahu says, and Washington Post backs him up
    • actually make that a vodka,salute to the russians

    • Amigo
      You misunderstood me,i refer to arab countries with palestinian refugees
      How else can you explain the treatment of palestinians by syria
      Your palbotery abounds

    • Settlers are settled in but they will pay a fee,the arabs need security and jobs and israel will have to accept this responsibility.let yarmouk be a warning to the palestinians,they are expendable.
      Eu would accept a tax structure that taxes goods from the settlements.that tax would be paid to palestinians,thats the fee.
      bds could promote it.companies like sodastream would have to pay taxes to the
      palestinian authority or leave.this approach could allow arabs to keep there jobs and let israeli companies grow.

  • Are we all Egyptians?
    • marc ellis says

      "Sharing failure, a new solidarity for the struggle ahead?"

      the new solidarity is easily defined-the total rejection of the jewish/moslem brotherhood type political state.absolute total seperation of church and state.
      in egypt a military dictatorship is a start in this process.israel will be no different

  • Deconstructing Scarlett Johansson’s statement on SodaStream
    • judithbell says:
      January 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm

      good point,whats more charites are used as a cover for intelligence services

      here are a few

      3. Oxfam, like several other charities, has been accused of being a front for the UK security service MI6.

      "In the early 1970s, the Tamil Tigers began establishing training camps and secret arms caches under the cover of a chain of Refugee and Rehabilitation Farms of the Gandhian Society.

      "Funds for the farms came from Oxfam, one of the most powerful and secretive British intelligence organizations acting under non-governmental organization cover...

      "John Glover, a British feature writer, wrote to the Western Mail in Wales about the ongoing and future training programs for Tamil youth by British mercenaries.

      "A band of mercenary soldiers recruited in South Wales is training a Tamil army to fight for a separate state in Sri Lanka.

      "About 20 mercenaries were signed up after a meeting in Cardiff and have spent the last two months in southern India preparing a secret army to fight the majority Sinhalas, in the cause of a separate Tamil state in Sri Lanka," he said...

      more info about save the children

      2. On 25 September 2012, Save the Children produced what appears to be a piece of propaganda for the CIA.

      The charity has released Untold Atrocities, a collection of alleged 'first-hand accounts' from children and parents allegedly receiving help from Save the Children after fleeing Syria.

      "The six-year-old son of an anti-government activist is abducted, then starved and beaten to death. The new report by the UK charity Save the Children documents these and other alleged atrocities."

      Save the Children has been refused permission to enter Syria.

      Save the Children is on the ground on Syria's borders.

      Justin Forsyth (left) with Andrew Mitchell (Andrew Mitchell 'plebs' comment)

      Justin Forsyth became chief executive of Save the Children in July 2012.

      Forsyth is a former adviser to Tony Blair.

      He is also a former communications director to Gordon Brown.

      The former boss of Save the Children was Jasmine Whitbread, who previously worked for Oxfam.

      anyway guys keep up the good work keep on drawing attention to these causes

  • Oxfam expresses 'concerns' over Scarlett Johansson's support for settlement product
    • Annie

      Few updates coming up.get the picture in the media

    • March 25, 2009

      According to Dr. Samah Idriss, academic and key figure in the boycott campaign, Starbucks was put on the campaign’s blacklist after announcing plans in 2002 to spend $15 million opening 80 outlets in Israel. But in 2003 all the opened locales in Israel were shut. Starbucks cites “operational challenges” while Idriss believes it was the boycotts and protests in the Middle East. Regardless of the cause, the shut down has meant a revision for the boycott. “Starbucks is no longer in Tel Aviv, they do not invest in Israel, they do not have employees there so…we are now updating the information,” says Idriss.
      But this revision is not likely to remove Starbucks from the Lebanese activist limelight. The perception that Schultz is a Zionist means that the cafes’ familiar green logo is the most visible purportedly Israeli-affiliated symbol on the streets of Beirut. Is boycotting it the most effective way of targeting Zionism? Well, it gets the protestors’ picture in the media, and maybe that’s the idea. Is Starbucks the fairest target? Maybe not, but as long as anger seeks easy answers, the finer points of responsibility will pass protestors frustrated with Israel.

  • Update: 'Blood bubbles' -- mainstream media turn on SodaStream and Scarlett Johansson
    • Kris says
      "Claim on land"

      so whose land are you living on in washington state.can you speak one word of the indian tribe that lived there 100 year ago

      in israel they speak hebrew and 2000 years ago they spoke hebrew
      they even minted coins with hebrew writing on them
      but i agree with you ,jews have no claim to the land because kris said so
      you know that in south africa in the apartheid years if you went to school in a rural area you learnt the language of the local tribe in

      in israel most israeli,s are familar with arab culture and language

    • What the hell,soda what,soda who ,soda dog peed in it.i thought man to man combat would call for beer or at the very least a shot of jim beam.

    • Annie

      welcome to project scarlett/debate

      The whole thing from start to finish was considered before.
      i wish you all the luck.great mention in the new yorker.......priceless
      woody says high

  • BDS leaders say Palestinian human rights are compatible with Israeli Jewish future
    • talknic says:
      January 23, 2014 at 9:20 am

      " he IS a Palestinian leader!"

      no he is not -he is as saudi flunkie,addressing people like yourself on the internet who fall for his bullsh*t

      Erekat is one of the more prominent Palestinian spokespeople in the Western media.[13] During the Second Intifada he loudly criticized Israeli actions and together with other sources[14] characterized the IDF's 2002 assault in the Palestinian town of Jenin as a "massacre" and a "war crime", alleging that Israel has killed more than 500 Palestinians in the Jenin refugee camp. After the incident was over and the Palestinian death toll was recorded at between 53 and 56 casualties, Erekat faced widespread criticism.[15][16][17][18]

      you need to update your "talknic" hasbara webpage immediately

    • Speculation can be fun, you can say anything

      Alex Kane on January 21, 2014 says

      erakat said........... "We have the capacity to create new types of nationalities, of conceptions of citizenship, that could contemplate the Jewish citizen as part of this multi-ethnic state.”

  • When you watch football, you are complicit in violent assault
    • Pocket billiards is my favourite sport.......improves ball handling skills and no head injuries.
      Seriously,get rid of the helmets and plastic pads and that will end the head injuries

  • Undermining Kerry, Democratic Rep Engel says West Bank is Israel
    • Woody Tanaka says:
      January 20, 2014 at 3:55 pm

      "It means hoppy is looking for some angle to defend Engle and he can’t do it on the merits."

      hoppy does not need angle because angle is already in place,he is merely pointing out that naming him a jew instead of just a "democratic rep" is a device being used on this site to cast the man in a negative light.

  • 'Scarlett letter' -- Social media pillory Johansson for representing settlement business SodaStream
  • Fact-checking Jeffrey Goldberg: the American Jewish unanimity on Israel
    • Phil Weiss and Annie Robbins on January 19, 2014

      "Weintraub is not even speaking of the rank and file in the Jewish community, many of whom are anti-Zionist, who were not represented on that JCC panel."

      the purge is on "rabbi"weintraub,on the street,who knows maybe you could be the one to lead the New Jew,much like Jesus did,and take the flock off in a new direction.

      imagine that -holy smoke ....a new member of the abrahamic relegion.....Jews Christians,Moslems and the New Jews....who would be the prophet,what would it be called.

  • 'Guard the state, no surrendering to Kerry' -- right-wing Israeli campaign
  • While you were neutral about Yarmouk

      Raja said the aim is to send 7,000 boxes for 7,000 families into the camp's rebel-held areas. He added that more food supplies will be sent into the camp in the coming days and later medical supplies will be sent as well.

      He said committees in the camp will hand over the food boxes to families by name "so that (opposition) gunmen don't take them."

      7000 thousand boxes for 7000 people.......indeed
      the whole story is waffle with cherry on top

      obviously the refugee right of return is up for negioation
      who knows whats in pandora,s palestinian box

    • ? has a long history of malcontentment primarily instigated by russian political expiration due to several important cold war is this driving force that has led to the demise of palestinian support amongst syrian rebel groups and the consequent destruction of palestinian camps in syria.politically this sweeping of refugees into areas closer to israel is a deliberate attempt to force israel to accept responsibility for the palestinian refugee problem that commenced 1948 has

    • Kung fu deja vu

  • Europeans with 'no legitimate claim' to America wiped out indigenous people -- 'totally different' from Israel (Harris)
  • 'The Israel I love is increasingly hated'-- Richard Cohen
    • Yonah

      interesting saying,it somehow turned a switch in my mind,like when you experience something ,you know it is important but you are puzzled as to why

      just curious,what made you post those wordswords

  • Facts on the Ground Peace Index: Volume V
    • Cliff says

      What what what..........about egypt

      Tahiri square/brothethood/virginity testing/breakfast at tiffany,s/poached camel eggs.

    • Harry law

      The problem with palestinian leadership is that exists in cyberspace,lodging mostly on internet sites and blog gogs.
      There is a definite correlation between the growth of the internet and palestinian leadership,as one grows stronger the other declines
      The proof is in ..........the pudding jamallah
      No wonder kerry is struggling,what with having to bring together at the table of negioation israeli,s and "others" .......others being a blend of palbots,electronic intifetisha,s,and various jewish psuedo intellectuals sprouting sproungales as if that would solve the puzzle of mosiacs that is the "peace process"

  • 'This is a conflict felt around the world,' Kerry says on his tenth trip
    • Talknic and glomp

      You will find my reply to your comment "those who truly support israel..............blah blah blah at the end of this article linked

    • Talknic

      Yes that is in fact true

    • seafoid says:
      January 5, 2014 at 4:27 pm
      Sensationalist BS from Hasbara central.

      absolutely agree,a sure sign of whats to come,

    • The truth says

      "The official position of the Palestinians, including, Hamas, as well as EVERY Arab state, is peace and friendly relations with Israel"

      Yes that is in fact true

    • ‘This is a conflict felt around the world,’ Kerry says on his tenth trip
      Philip Weiss on January 5, 2014

      This piece calls the Jordan River Valley a “strategic corridor

      the fall of anbar province together with jihadi buidup in syria points to an all out sunni attack on israels eastern border end of 2014-2015.

      there is no way that israel can pull out of the west bank while sunni forces buildup in iraq and syria.

      the palestinians have no intention of recognizing a jewish state and aim to retake all of israel and turn it into a moslem state.they have made there intentions quite clear

      why bother with countering bds ,sanctions,peace talks, ama, asa, and whatever stratergy the arabs are employing to weaken israel

      those that support israel must realise that soon will come the time to stand and defend israel on israeli soil.this realization is crucial and must be pointed out in communities worldwide

  • Happy new year from Mondoweiss
    • Happy new year too you guys

      Hows the weather doing in new york phil

      Hope you took my advice and got out the shovel,looks like you will need it

      Obama the sandman and kerry the snowman sailing the winds of change

  • What Would Jesus Do (on his birthday in Jerusalem)?
    • Taxi

      Have to agree.thats why i read angry arab,i dont like his anti zionist but he gets to the point and has a sense of irony minus the whine

  • Guilty on Christmas
    • Krauss

      Zionism has led to an increase in assimilation.almost a worship of the warrior mentality that is the foundation of zionism
      opposing that is the spirituality of zionism which not only rejects assimilation but calls for a enforcement of relegious laws and humility before G-d,which is the key to enlightment and continuity
      A balance of these 2 forces is the true path of the righteous

    • Danaa

      well written and definitely worth a chuckle.the thing is there are other opposing forces growing in strength who do not prescribe to the "goulash" worldview,strong of conviction and prepared to tear it all down and start again.

  • A Palestinian messenger
    • Borrowed this comment from another site

      In 1982 Abbas published and received a PH.D for a thesis which later became a book al-Wajh al-Akhar: al-'Alaqat as-Sirriya bayna an-Naziya wa's-Sihyuniya.
      I can live with that.Some Israelis and Jews,demonize Arabs,Muslims and Palestinians,too,for reasons of fear of the other . One makes peace with Its enemies, not friends.It Is a common phenomena to adopt certain Icons and Ideas, In order to glorify one self and belittle his/hers enemies.That Is where revisionist history fits well.Palestinians are guilty of It, so are Israelis. One needs to "grow up" and see beyond this. Btw, Bethlehem mayor, when Interviewed after Christmas celebrations, when asked what she wished or missed, answered that If the presence of Jews was more numerous and visible, the town would had truly benefited.In my view, this sums It up- most people want nothing more than security,dignity and economical stability.Political solutions will follow.
      May this coming new year bring us all good health,security ,more compassion and better understanding of our fellow man.

  • Kerry wants to imprison West Bank with massive security fence along Jordanian border
    • i sometimes wonder about the palbots on this site.the fence gets your attention,why.
      What about the gaza- west bank railway link,no mention of that.
      Fences and walls come and go but a rail link can be important for the south
      Some time ago i posted that gaza and the west bank could have a land bridge ,no one commented
      Now it is a reality.
      A pipe line is being built to the dead sea
      Yet you focus on a fence
      There will never be a final agreement in israel just a series of continous agitations and accomodations
      Ever wonder why no single nation has ever claimed israel for itself

  • On Christmas let us begin begin to reverse the process of fragmentation
    • On Christmas let us begin begin to reverse the process of fragmentation
      Marc H. Ellis on December 24, 2013 3

      " that transmogrifies common understanding of Palestinian rights and claims and reformulates the conflict as a border dispute."

      the borders were quite clearly laid out in the chumash before 1948.centuries before.

  • Yet another Dershowitz fabrication
    • talknic says:
      December 23, 2013 at 2:09 pm

      "breaking one of the most basic tenets of Judaism "

      OED,then calling someone a schmuck must be a basic tenet of judaism

      "or the Jewish state isn’t very Jewish"

      you are mistaken ...there are no jews in israel ,they converted to zionism which is a nationalistic movement that consists of europeans,arabs,africans,asians,americans even eskimo,s.
      at the moment the ruling government is the democraticaly elected zionist national party (ZNP) which was voted into power by the countries citizens.

      either way all citizens of israel are zionists as the live in a zionist country.

      those arabs living in israel are zionists,they choose to accept citizenship and they vote and have members parliament representing them

      they are zionists

  • 'An Arab & A Jew' debate BDS and the future of Israel/Palestine
    • taxi says

      "there is no zionism in the land of dreams"

      in the land of dreams ,there is hezbollah,a national goverment,no apartheid ,all people live happily together,and hariri is still prime minister,no civil war and a plentiful supply of hash.instead of zionism you have what?

    • my pet theory on relegion goes like this

      survival is the primary concern,and relegion provides the will and intent
      a group of people -israelis-use judaism to provide the will and intent to survive

      but a second group-non israelis-survival protected by the laws of the country they reside in,telling israelis stop using my judaism to survive,and by the way ,while you are about it, give it all back,we do not need israel anymore because............

      the laws of the country jews live in will always protect them and we will live happily ever after

      the mind boggles through rose tinted googles (TM)

    • hi seth

      “A Jewish state for a Jewish people is the logical equivalent of a German state for ethnic Germans.”

      but seth there are many non jews living in that jewish state right now.......

      and seth

      "I will not defend a German state for a German people"

      yes of course,wonder what germans think about that

      the indignation boggles through rose tinted goggles (TM)

    • Annie Robbins says:
      December 21, 2013 at 9:25 pm
      "there are no ‘nuetral moral actors’ in this conflict. none."

      nu ? does that mean that an arab and jew cannot have soup together ,maybe a little chicken soup with falafel balls instead of kneidelach. pita bread instead of matzah

      O,Jerusalem,how you beauty beckons in the fading light,behind closed walls.

  • Coen brothers and Bob Dylan went to Zionist summer camp
    • Philip Weiss on December 20, 2013 says

      "I wonder how non-Jews feel hearing empowered Jews in the media have this kind of inside conversation."

      from the movie the Big Lebowski

      The Dude: Would you come off it Walter? You're not even f.cking Jewish, man.

      Walter Sobchak: What the are you talking about Dude?

      The Dude: You're f.cking Polish-Catholic!

      Walter Sobchak: What the are you talking about? I converted when I married Cynthia, Dude.

      The Dude: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah...

      Walter Sobchak: And you know this!

      The Dude: ...And five f.cking years ago you were divorced man!

      Walter Sobchak: When you get a divorce you get a new license? You turn in your library card? You *stop* being Jewish?

  • Haunting throwaways
  • 'It's hard to see why Israel won't follow white South Africa's road to extinction,' says 'Forward' writer
    • Are there any palestinians posting on this thread,i have a question about a village i saw on google maps and the name is in arabic
      Shingo,talknic,traintosiberia,peter,hostage,just,james,sumud,seafoid ,chu anyone ....from palestine who understands arabic

  • 'NYT' covers historic American boycott vote by quoting 3 Israelis attacking it
    • Hostage says:
      December 17, 2013 at 10:49 pm

      "The Times quotes Mahmoud Abbas publicly rejecting boycott of Israel and an adviser to Abbas saying we are not asking anyone to boycott products of Israel."

      a total boycott of israel now will back fire and destroy the bds movement,lose whatever left wing israeli support abbas has ,and leave nothing in the bank for later

      in fact abbas in his haste gave the game away.

      for israel it must be seen as a warning

      whatever concessions he can gain now from bds will be used later on when full sanctions will be called for

      "Oh ,Jerusalem, how you beauty beckons in the fading light,a place in the heart,behind closed walls."

  • The 'genetic truth' of Jesus's (and Hanna Rosin's) 'classically Semitic appearance,' as revealed to Jeffrey Goldberg
    • James
      Make up your mind,the the herd mentality at mondo pro hasbi requires precision old chap, precision
      yasser arafat himself admitted to calling arabs in israel palestinians for the sake of the cause.plo
      Produce a photo of a palestinian flag from 100 years ago,or a coin,who was prime minister
      ghostbusters could help

    • Interesting thread
      a question could be asked
      was jesus a zionist?

  • Apartheid lives on in Israel, rampant, disguised, and despised -- says 'Le Monde' correspondent
    • Talknic

      congratulaions,you are absolutely correct there was no arab majority,but there was a jewish one.well done

      that is my point

      feel free to moderate

    • as this un link shows there was a jewish majority in jerusalem

      appendix 1 ----dec 1946--- page 63.... population of city of jerusalem 99,690 jews.

    • Hostage says:
      December 16, 2013 at 5:22 am

      "Well I’ve already documented that they rejected the implementation of the whole plan and that the only part of the plan the Jewish side accepted was the one for the establishment of a Jewish state"

      page 60-62 lists the un recommendations

      did the arabs accept it.....yes or no

      this was in dec 1946

      this is what followed

    • Hostage says:
      December 15, 2013 at 3:33 pm

      "It included an Arab majority in the territory governed by the so-called Jewish state and required that Jews and Arabs be provided with equal constitutional rights in both of the resulting states."

      funny man

      "so called jewish state"

      Reports of pressure against the Plan

      According to Benny Morris, Wasif Kamal, an Arab Higher Committee official, tried to bribe a delegate to the United Nations, perhaps a Russian.[32]

      Concerning the welfare of Jews in Arab countries, a number of direct threats were made:

      Jamal Husseini promised, “The blood will flow like rivers in the Middle East”.[33] Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Said, said: “We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in".
      Iraq’s prime minister Nuri al-Said told British diplomats that if the United Nations solution was not “satisfactory”, “severe measures should [would?] be taken against all Jews in Arab countries".[33]

      Concerning the welfare of Jews in Arab countries, a number of predictions were made:

      '"On 24 November the head of the Egyptian delegation to the General Assembly, Muhammad Hussein Heykal, said that “the lives of 1,000,000 Jews in Moslem countries would be jeopardized by the establishment of a Jewish state."[34]

      In a speech at the General Assembly Hall at Flushing Meadow, New York, on Friday, 28 November 1947, Iraq’s Foreign Minister, Fadel Jamall, included the following statement: Partition imposed against the will of the majority of the people will jeopardize peace and harmony in the Middle East. Not only the uprising of the Arabs of Palestine is to be expected, but the masses in the Arab world cannot be restrained. The Arab-Jewish relationship in the Arab world will greatly deteriorate. There are more Jews in the Arab world outside of Palestine than there are in Palestine. In Iraq alone, we have about one hundred and fifty thousand Jews who share with Moslems and Christians all the advantages of political and economic rights. Harmony prevails among Moslems, Christians and Jews. But any injustice imposed upon the Arabs of Palestine will disturb the harmony among Jews and non-Jews in Iraq; it will breed inter-religious prejudice and hatred. [35]

      The Arab states warned the Western Powers that endorsement of the partition plan might be met by either or both an oil embargo and realignment of the Arab states with the Soviet Bloc.[32]
      Final vote

      On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions and 1 absent, in favour of the modified Partition Plan. The final vote was as follows:

      In favour, (33 countries, 72% of voting):

      feel free to moderate........................kerpow??????

    • PARTITION is the word as described by the UN

  • 'NYT' and Wash Post won't tell us why Dems are hurting Obama on Iran deal
    • piotr says:
      December 11, 2013 at 1:27 pm

      “the book of numbers has been opened.”

      piotr it is a census of the total number of jihadi fighters assembling in Syria regardless of affiliation
      latest headlines should come as no surprise

      " Britain and the United States have suspended assistance to Syrian rebel forces as the opposition continues to fracture and fall under the influence of hard-line Islamists. "

      Syria along with Lebanon are being used as a staging ground to attack Israel.the Palestinian peace talks are irrelevant as long as the numbers accumulate.i hope that I will be proved wrong

      the book of numbers has been opened

    • The syrian civil war is a project to counter iranian influence in Syria and Lebanon,both Israel,s neighbours
      a combination of saudi backed jihadi networks and american sanctions has forced iran to the bargaining table.this in turn has given obama leverage to push israel into accepting a framework to allow palestinians to gain statehood.the west bank is the weak link in Israel,s security chain and the americans must acknowledge this and allow a degree of mutual trust between Israel and the Palestinians to build up before Israel can proceed with a full withdrawal of military forces
      .water security would pay dividends if managed fairly and so would economic water ,no jobs,no hope ....a repeat of gaza.
      peace must be given a chance,and if rejected,a census will see the counting of heads on the plains of syria.
      the book of numbers has been opened.

  • Man of zeal?
    • Cliff says:
      December 10, 2013 at 8:40 am

      "Who would you make this bet with? Your fellow golem/troll friends?"

      "Fall off "must be your nickname

    • dammit phil and annie you just cost me $20 on a bet
      I said lets see how long it would take for mondoweiss to play the Gadot card.
      I guys are fast and furious with the zing

  • Shimon Peres on Mandela and Apartheid: Now & Then
    • Toivos

      Why was the state of israel reestablished in 1948 with U N endorsement.
      what followed will always be disputed
      look people say clutching to the "apartheid" banner ,here is proof
      but the UN itself called for a partition of palestine,and what is the difference between partition and apartheid in the context of the i/p fugwattah

      partition [pɑːˈtɪʃən]
      1. a division into parts; separation
      2. something that separates, such as a large screen dividing a room in two
      3. a part or share
      4. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a division of a country into two or more separate nations
      5. (Law) Property law a division of property, esp realty, among joint owners

      a·part·heid (-pärtht, -ht)
      1. An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites.
      2. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
      3. The condition of being separated from others; segregation.

      The adoption on November 29, 1947 by the United Nations General Assembly of a resolution recommending the adoption and implementation of a plan of partition of Palestine was one of the earliest acts of the United Nations, This followed the report of the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine.[3],_Palestine,_and_the_United_Nations

    • in those days the south Africans needed military assistance fighting the communist influences in Africa on behalf of America much like Israel did in the middle east.the Russians supplied arms to the anc in south Africa,the Egyptians and Syrians. the americans through Israel supported the south African government in its fight against the Cubans for the oil in angola which was being pumped by gulf oil

      here is some background

      "apartheid" in south Africa and Israel are a direct result of anglo american
      foreign policy

  • Romeo and Juliet in Palestine
    • miriam6

      hate poetry ,all that stop start makes my eyeballs flicker,
      I barely made it through "the traveler",which got me thinking about the last time I ate pomegranates
      keys to forgotten locks.

  • American Studies Association national council endorses academic boycott of Israel
    • The negoiations have been ongoing between jews and the various powers that be over the years regarding a homeland.
      the outcomes have until now always been a disaster.
      temples destroyed,banishment,slavery,holocaust,pogroms,suicide bombers,masada,forced conversions,wars,uprisings.
      A 1000 year war at least

      and now after all that academic sanctions.

      Live by the book,die by the book.

  • Corasanti unknowingly affirms criticism of 'The Almond Tree'
    • Read this by the publisher ,sounds like susan abdulwhatti and co. are a tad envious of this gorgeous jewish woman stealing there limelight

      Editorial ReviewsFrom the Publisher

      So how will Americans be able to put on those shoes and see through those eyes? By engaging in loud debate? Vociferous argument? Lengthy lectures? Probably not. Sometimes it takes a small thing, something unforeseen, to open eyes and galvanize opinion. How about a good story?

      Yes, a good story. Here's one: a novel entitled The Almond Tree. The first novel of a Jewish New Yorker, Michelle Cohen Corasanti, an epic drama of the proportions of The Kite Runner, but set in Palestine. A story that grabs you from the first page and makes your heart go out to the Palestinians without pointing fingers at anyone. An adventure that brings you into the magical world that travelers once crossed on horseback or camel towards Beirut, Amman or Cairo. A land where for centuries Christians, Muslims and Jews shared their traditions. Where the children inherited the land, generation after generation, and the clans stayed together. Where courage was not the absence of fear, but the absence of selfishness. Where children learned a fundamental principle of life: decency.

      Spanning six turbulent decades, The Almond Treefollows Ichmad, a gifted Palestinian boy from a small rural village, on a journey of painful enlightenment as he seeks to keep his family together while trying to make sense of the violent conflict that surrounds him. When he encounters hardships and obstacles, Ichamd must learn to respond without hatred and understand that soldiers are only human beings and that war is merely politics. This novel is not a political lecture, but a gripping and compassionate work of fiction that puts the reader in those shoes that Obama spoke of.

      If Americans can find the time to read this novel, I believe they will be inspired to ask questions and do research. The next time they watch CBS, FOX, NBC or CNN, instead of anonymous refugees or 'terrorists,' they will see the faces of mothers with children, grandparents with grandchildren, parents with brothers. People going to work, returning from school, shopping in the market. People who can't pick the oranges from their own trees because the Israeli military have blocked them off. Students who can't accept their scholarships to Harvard or Yale because Israeli authorities don't allow them to leave Gaza. And then, those same Americans who have been silent and unaware will demand justice and peace. Because this wonderful story is not about being anti-Israel, but about helping Israel to live in peace with its Palestinians brothers and sisters. Through The Almond Tree we can step into the shoes of the Palestinians. Then, we will begin to see, with our own eyes, a glimmer of hope in solving a conflict that weighs so much on us all.

      With the onset of adulthood, one already must cope with so much. The Almond Tree follows the struggles of young Ichmad Hamid as his family is lose to strife, imprisonment, and everything they hold dear. The twelve year old learns it may be on him to use his limited talents to help his family and bring back something of a life. The Almond Tree is a strong addition to coming of age fiction collections, highly recommended.

      Corasanti’s accomplished debut novel offers a humanistic look into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict…Sensitive, moving and competently written, a complex novel as necessary as ever.

      The Almond Tree by Michelle Cohen Corasanti is not the definitive Palestinian narrative, rather, it is the story of one Palestinian and his family. It is a work of fiction, but many of the incidents are based on things that really happened to the residents of Israeli Arab villages and the Gaza Strip. This is Ichmad’s story, told in a manner that strongly resembles the voice and narrative used by Khaled Hosseini in his popular novel, The Kite Runner.

      This will not be easy reading for Israelis and Jews elsewhere, but it should be required reading. The pain and suffering described are that of the Palestinian protagonist. The victims of Palestinian terrorism are not mentioned because they play no role in Ichmad’s life. The narrative is clearly one-sided, but it is a side that is unknown to the Israeli public. Any chances of reconciliation and peaceful relations between Israelis and Palestinians depend on hearing and understanding what has taken place on the other side, and this is true in both directions.

  • 'New Republic' writer claims Jews have 'self-critical intellectual space' on Israel
    • Dickerson,
      i made up a saying

      Incitement encourages dissent into chaos
      encouragement refines dissent into stability

      there is a fine line between incitement and encouragement when commenting on a dispute between 2 sides

  • Sleepless with Dan Snyder
  • Heard any good gentile jokes lately?
    • annie

      "ha ha.humor is so fun."

      next big thing will be Ramakippur ,an all round fast festival for moslems and jews and instead of calling the celebratory meal at the end of Ramadan Eid ,they will name it Yid
      perhaps goat soup with knEIDlach the celebratory dish

      hey annie (get your spoon)

    • Hey i thought it was funny ,the turkey leg in the handbag is universal,my grandmother did it at weddings.lighten up people relegion is destined for some cross pollenation in the internet age,especially in america with the inter marriage boom
      a social contract with G-d should be open to all
      wonder if the turkey in the video was kosher slaughtered or just baptised by the pastor

  • Following 'a great deal of consultation,' NYT corrects itself on the Apartheid Wall
    • dear citizen and amigo

      thank you for replying to my queries with links and pov,s .I did some research and wikileaks provided this answer

      "Israel argues that the barrier is necessary to protect Israeli civilians from Palestinian political violence, including the suicide bombing attacks that increased significantly during the Second Intifada.[6] There has been a reduced number of incidents of suicide bombings since the construction of the barrier. According to statistics published by the Israeli government, between 2000 and July 2003, when the "first continuous segment" of the barrier was built, 73 Palestinian suicide bombings were carried out from the West Bank, killing 293 Israelis and injuring over 1,900. However, from August 2003 to the end of 2006, only 12 attacks were carried out, killing 64 Israelis and wounding 445.[7] Supporters argue that this is indicative of the barrier being effective in preventing such attacks."

    • hi henry
      having never travelled to the west bank in the last 30 years -I was there in 1976 I have not seen the wall and having read about it on this site I need some clarification
      1.for what purpose was the wall built-is it an extension of the wailing wall for religious purposes
      2.who constructed it and when was it constructed
      3.what is its length it true the wall was built to prevent suicide bombers from entering israel

      any information would be appreciated



  • 'What happened there was historic': A report from the American Studies Association boycott debate
  • AIPAC plays the long game on new Iran sanctions
  • Palestinians increasingly concerned Jordan may be given control of West Bank in future deal
    • Danaa says

      "relative silence from the people of conscience"

      The suicide bombing campaign of 2001 onwards was a tactical mistake and largely alienated potential supporters of the palestinian cause.the wall and the settlements that followed were a direct result.
      the slaughter of innocent civilians on egged buses only hardened peoples attitudes and the fact that the israelis continued to use the buses regardless sent a powerful message to the outside world

  • The current round of talks leads inevitably to... the Jordanian option
    • Walid

      "The little fantasy "

      roll out the map and link the piece of negev to gaza and jordan gets a port in gaza and access to the med.

    • Walid

      "The little fantasy "

      roll out the map and link the piece of negev to gaza and jordan gets a port in gaza and access to the med.

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