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  • UN approves Palestinian status upgrade with 138-9 vote (and US Senators threaten to cut aid)
    • I don't think the stream is working. It's all black to me with background sound of what seems like an Arab family speaking together :)

      It seems like Palestine became a UN non-member state today. Now the ICC represents a possible bargaining chip on the side of Palestinians: give us peace or we will give you ICC Justice.

      Israeli war-makers should still be prosecuted for their crimes against Humanity... dating back from 1948, 1967, 1973, etc... etc... etc..., Sharon, Olmert, Netanyahu, Barak, the whole gang. They are no different than Milosevic. Also, reparations are in place for 65+ years of occupation, theft, and terror. It's called Justice.

  • Growing chill between Obama and Muslims could prove a headache in November
  • Obama high-fives Jimmy Kimmel after he calls Netanyahu a warmongering 'yahoo'
    • Kimmel makes it sound like he is equating Iranian (Persians) with Arabs, when he talk about peace between Israelis and Arabs.

  • Mads Gilbert, eyewitness to 'Cast Lead', says Gaza remains besieged and 'shattered'
    • I think it is within the audiences rights to make their voices heard through disruption. However, one does not need to act like an animal from Hell for they may lose their right to stay in room.

    • Chomsky said very similar things in his 9/11 book.

    • Here is the original source, article from Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet Sept. 30th 2001:

      Original in Norwegian:


      Excerpt w/ context:
      " The attack on New York was not surprising, after the policy has led the West in recent decades. I am outraged by the terrorist attack, but I'm just as upset about the suffering that the U.S. has created. It is in this context 5000 dead people must be seen. If the U.S. government has a legitimate right to bomb and kill civilians in Iraq, they also suppressed a moral right to attack the U.S. with the weapons they may create. Dead civilians are the same whether they are Americans, Palestinians or Iraqis, says physician and professor Mads Gilbert.

      - Do you support a terrorist attack on U.S.?

      - Terror is a bad weapon, but the answer is yes, within that context I have mentioned, says Gilbert.

      - You understand that this will create reactions?

      - Yes, that's to be expected. The white world does not understand that it is possible to see such an act in another perspective, says Gilbert."

  • 'I've been duped' -- America's travel guide Rick Steves says our media black out the brutal occupation
    • For some background on supposed Jews Running Hollywood, Joel Stein of LA Times had an interesting story at,0,4676183.column

      In my opinion, outstanding Jewish studio directors, actors/actresses, and screenwriters, CEOs, company presidents, and others have been the backbone of Hollywood and MSM for decades now and don't by default "run" these entities. Instead, I think nepotism controls Hollywood and MSM (like so many other players) and that pro-Israel/Zionist individual have gained from this nepotism and been given a platform from which white-washing Israeli crimes and highlighting the Barbaric and Primitive Hollywood A-rab.

      A great example of the (Jewish) nepotism is seen in Bonus Features of Rush Hour 1 (or 2, I forget), where the (Jewish) director Brett Ratner brags about how he needed money (~$10,000) for his school-project in college and wrote to Steven Spielberg. He was quickly rejected. He modified his letter to Spielberg and added that he was "Jewish" and BOOM, he got a check for $10,000 from Spielberg, which launched Ratner's career.

      Fortunately, with the trend of distributed media, the effect of MSM will weaken over time and the Truth will come out slowly over next couple decades, which is only a good thing for those parties interested in Peace, Humanity, Justice.

  • Obama begins push for Jewish support in 2012 by touting the 'unbreakable bond' between Israel and the US
    • I agree with some of your points, but thing #10 is the most promising (for immediate results). Finkelstein mentioned similar point as well, when he said that if Palestinians marched en masse with white flags to border-crossing points, kept marching, and video-taped the event, then Israel would be forced to make a very public opinion on
      a) shot the marchers
      b) let them walk --- not gonna happen!

      Finkelstein said that after 100-1000 civilians had been killed the World could no longer sit by quietly and support Israel. [With Assad's killing fields growing to 5000+, I am no longer sure whether this tactic would with as well as I hoped.]

      Your point #10 is similar to Finkelstein.

  • A message of anti-Islamic hatred on the streets of Jerusalem
    • Yet, IDF trains Fatah forces. Yet, Israel only wants to deal with Fatah (when dealing at all).

      Sending mixed signals?

    • THIS SENTIMENT EPITOMIZES ISRAEL --- and the lack of peace...

      Spot on, eee. Until Israel publicly recognizes that it massacred, raped, destroyed, ethnically cleansed, and stole the land of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs from 1947-1954, there will be no peace. Until Israel deals with its collective denial of war crimes, there will be no peace. Until Israel grants full Right of Return of Refugees (or reasonable compensation), there will be no peace.

      NB! Israel are great at carrying multi-generational grudges themselves: "[In 2005], the Israeli government calling for Germany to take over responsibility for restitution payments that had been ignored by East Germany in the sum of around $500 million",1518,794991,00.html

      Every Israeli war has been a war of choice -- not survival --- and to nonchalantly equate the two sides in the conflict show a gross neglect of history and dangerous lack of humanity. Shame on you, Zionism.

  • Ynet: Support for Israel on American campuses is kerplunking
    • I agree that the past narrative set forth by Zionists is fading from its false glory; however, I am not sure support is actually "Kaplunking" but rather that:

      1) zionist organization such as Hillel are using scare-tactics about "loss of a generation" to get more money from rich Zionist Israeli Firsters and
      2) the Palestinian narrative is being promoted by more organized entities than in the past, which leads to a leveling of the playing field (so to speak), which in turn causes zionists to jump from their arm-chairs and re-fuel their Hindenburg projects... which leads back to 1) --- positive feedback will end Zionism *cheering* :)

      Once given BOTH the Fascist zionist view and the humanist Palestinian view, the moral human should have no qualms whom to support.

      It's only a matter of time...

  • The Freedom Riders of Bus 148
    • From WaPo comment section:

      "Can someone explain why the palestinians deserve a thing?? How have they bettered humanity in the least. They have not. They have created inventive new ways to murder unarmed civilians, and besides that- literally nothing. Prove it you deserve a state and you shall receive one."

      So Israel became a state because Zionism bettered Humanity... how did I miss this. Are they still doing bettering the world? What a fool....

  • Behind closed doors Sarkozy and Obama spill the beans
  • 'Peace Now''s Jerusalem offices targeted in 'pricetag' threat
    • Hope they video-taped this. Having DemocracyNow pundit on the boat should make for some good reports after he (somehow) returns to the US.

      Some of the prisoners taking by IOF pirates are also rejecting to sign the silly release forms.

  • Breaking: Gaza flotilla stopped by Israeli warships
    • Damage of Palmer Report:

      From NYT:
      "Blah blah blah...
      Israel says that the maritime blockade of Gaza is in accordance with international law and is essential to prevent weapons smuggling. Its position was backed by_the_Palmer_report, a United Nations review of Israel’s 2010 raid published in September that found the blockade of Gaza to be legal and appropriate.
      ... blah blah blah."

  • Reporters again turn State Dep't briefing into moshpit, scorning US 'impotence' in the conflict
  • 'You lost' -- reporters at State say UNESCO vote isolates U.S. from world opinion (and possibly from intellectual property enforcement)
    • I assume you are referring to the hypothesis that multi-national corporations will "think with their wallets" and push the US to accept Palestinians to the organizations without a fuss or lobby against AIPAC. That is pure fantasy and completely unrealistic.

      1) Multi-nationals corporations are beyond profits. We're talking world-conquest agendas via neo-colonialism (corporate nation states) and a lot of these BIG Corps are owned by famous Zionists.
      2) More likely, Palestinian membership to UN organizations will more likely lead to wars in the Middle East as a way of avoiding Palestinian membership.

      Let me be blunt and pessimistic. Palestine will be mired in war before they join another UN organization. Mark my words.

      [Though I seriously hope I am wrong!]

  • South Africans think Israel is practicing apartheid
  • Goldstone contra Goldstone
    • Are you the infamous MJ Rosenberg from Al Jazeera/Media Matters?

    • Conspiracy theories are fun but rarely accurate.

      More likely (and correctly), Goldstone is trying to appease the Zionist lobby who really went against him after releasing his initial report damning Israel. A couple of instances:
      1) Judge Goldstone was banned by the South African Zionist Federation [such an ironic federation!]
      2) Goldstone was banned from attending grandchild event (in Israel, if memory serves me well).

      He was painted as a traitor and is getting up in his year where his career is more or less over. Now, he wants to be back in the warm (read: bloody) arms of the Zionist lobby so that he can spend time with his family in apartheid Israel.

  • Huwaida Arraf: 'They have lies to spin; we have truths to tell'
  • The Israeli army shot at me and 3 Palestinian kids in Gaza today
    • Also, check out this bounty set by Zionists on some newly released Palestinian prisoners ($100,000). Then the retards in Saudi Arabia match it on Israeli Soldiers and the Zionists raise it to $1,000,000 and Saudi nutjobs follow up with $1,000,000 for a Israeli Soldier.

      Israel is as fundamentalist as crazy as Saudi Arabia.

    • Very outrageous since they shoot at kids and extremely sad because these events take place daily.

      This story should be plastered on every news site.

      Stolen from LowKey's album:
      Israel is a terror state, they're terrorists that terrorise,
      I testify, my television televised them telling lies,
      This is not a war, it is systematic genocide,
      But whatever they try, Palestine will never die!!!

  • Romney promises to abdicate American foreign policy towards Israel . . . to Israel
    • as long as the US funds Israel's war-machine, one can always argue (and I still do) that the US still "wags" Israel.

      Change USA and Israel will be forced to change or face the actual facts on the ground. ;)

  • Tahrir tells Oakland-- 'Don't afraid, go ahead'
  • 4-year-old Palestinian girl is rendered quadriplegic by Israeli military training in occupied West Bank
    • Oh, yeah. I forgot. The above quote was taken from interview with Romney, where he was talking about how he is willing to place US Embassy in Jerusalem... if Israeli leaders advised this move.

    • ROMNEY:
      The actions that I will take will be actions recommended and supported by Israeli leaders. I don’t seek to take actions independent of what our allies think is best, and if Israel’s leaders thought that a move of that nature would be helpful to their efforts, then that’s something I’ll be inclined to do. But again, that’s a decision which I would look to the Israeli leadership to help guide. I don’t think America should play the role of the leader of the peace process, instead we should stand by our ally. Again, my inclination is to follow the guidance of our ally Israel, as to where our facilities and embassies would exist.

    • Those 20 Palestinians injured from celebratory shooting (which is one of the dumbest way to celebrate as it puts others at risk due to the ubiquitous nature of gravity) is sad and outrageous, indeed.

      HOWEVER, there is a difference still. Mainly that Israel is an occupying apartheid force that specifically trains its soldiers near populated areas of the repressed occupied denizens (despite having many other options). So when they hit innocent children (accidentally or not), it invokes far more outrage than stupid celebrations.

    • I cannot find this story ANYWHERE except IMEMC and PNN. Al-Jazeera has nothing.

      Israel Offensive Forces claimed it was child's arms-dealing relative that accidentally shot her and Haaretz says she was shot during wedding celebrations.

      This one seems to have the "real" picture of her suffering, so now Hophmi is happy:

  • Psst-- see Palestinian prisoners as human beings, worthy of the same sympathy as non-Palestinian prisoners
    • Hi Annie, BIG FAN!

      For the same reason you guys don't ban eee and Hophmi and other naysayers, I do not like banning someone for voicing their (Zionist) agenda.

    • I decided not to engage with him. It is too tiring. You should see some the super-long threads we have had before. Seriously, I have spent many many hours against my wife's wishes and killing sleep (with a quasi-sleeping newborn) trying to debunk his mythological view of history and current events by digging up facts, statistics and correct his history (with links and undisputed sources, etc). And yet, he comes back with cyclical arguments and contradictions and cites Zionist medial outlets to "prove" his point [Note: we're both PhD students at an engineering college ==> he tries "prove" his point of view].

      It's just too much work with him. My new rule is 1 reply to him per posting; otherwise, it is too much work.

      Thanks for the support. I have been reading Mondoweiss for 6 months now and cannot believe it took me this long to find you.

    • Question for you all:

      On Facebook, I have a Zionist/Jewish/Israeli-Ukrainian-US national "friend" who wrote the following in response to my posting of ynetnews's article about Gilad's malnourished (read: Gazan) diet while held as a prisoner of war.

      "Gazans can get nutritious food, but like most people in the world they have to work for it (either grow it themselves or exchange it for goods and services). Instead they CHOSE to be represented by a government whose priorities are religious wars, murder or their political opponents, firing rockets at children just because the children happen to be of different race, encouraging unlimited reproduction, etc. Why should it be our problem what they eat if they willingly and knowingly chose this lifestyle? If one day they prioritize food over jihad, they can easily get it. Unlike the West/Israel, muslims have all the cards: it is up to them to have war or prosperity.
      On a side note, if Muslims value their own men as 1/1000 of the enemy , how come they always whine about disproportional retaliation?"

      Besides his Zionistic propaganda and logic, I am itching to respond in a grande manner to debunk his myths... but, and here's my question: is it worth it?

      I have had multiple lengthy "discussions" with him before and he just draws upon Zionist references to state his Zionist right-wing ideology, but he comes back for more... Do I ignore or engage?

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