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"Either we are all sacred or none of us is" - Paul Fourhorns Tenoso "One has to bear in mind that Israelis live in a largely mythic world, a somewhat modified and vastly simplified version of the Iliad. In this starkly polarized vision of reality, in which Israelis are by definition innocent victims of dark, irrational forces operating against them, heroic death in war always makes sense, and violent coercion is the option both of necessity and of choice. The Hebrew proverb says: “If force doesn’t work, use more force.” jon s November 16, 2014, 6:56 am "Hophmi, for participating in efforts to promote Jewish-Muslim understanding , is ridiculed, while Max and David , for spreading lies and promoting hatred , are to be admired." I just think Judaism needs to get back to that justice setting.

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  • Spanish Jews resisted oppression in tunnels and, exiled, clutched their keys
    • The Spaniards are mongrels like every other nation. There is no purity. It's everyone who ever passed through. Visigoths raped and slept with locals and widened the gene pool. Same as the previous wave of visitors. And the one after.

      Spain went in for pork products in a big way post Reconquista. So much jamon. Just to put a point on it. We are not Muslim. We are not Jewish.

  • 'BirthWrong' in the Cradle of Jewish Culture: Jews gather in southern Spain for tour that aims to repudiate Zionism
    • Great idea. Hebrew needs to be depoliticised as well. Ladino is a normal langage. Hebrew isn't.
      Not with all the IDF crap in it.

      Allen Ginsberg on Vietnam rather than the Israel car crash but the sentiment is the same.

      Smoke some grass and relax. Drop the nonsense

  • Jewish and Palestinian women are segregated in Israeli maternity wards -- Chomsky
    • What's wrong with segregation, Dabakr? It stops Jews breeding with goys. And that is the only way to prevent intermarriage and save Judaism !

    • "Another 373,000 children are suffering from deep trauma and require desperately needed psychosocial support that is severely lacking in the Gaza Strip. "

      And onward, towards the ends of the east
      an eye still gazes toward Zion
      Our hope is not yet lost
      The hope of two thousand years
      To be a free nation in our land,
      The land of Zion and Jerusalem

      Such Middle Eastern tones to the music as well , of course.

      As a great Jew, Neil Postman , once observed, the history of the human group is in many ways a struggle against the veneration of crap.

  • From SJP to JVP to Open Hillel, the joint struggle is transforming the campus debate
    • “I believe the Islamophobic narrative is so pervasive, and people often don’t reflect about who is benefiting from this narrative and its repercussions. As a Muslim in America, I face the consequences of the misrepresentation of Muslims in the media through discrimination on a daily basis, but the Muslims overseas, such as the Palestinians, face it even harder. The Islamophobic propaganda campaign driven by the imperialist powers, such as the U.S. and Israel, dehumanizes Muslims overseas and thereby justifies violence against them.”

      It is disgraceful that Jews are involved in Islamophobia given the 24/7 whining about anti-Semitism . All of the moral stuff is so flimsy when compared to the lure of power, isn't it ?

    • "which alleges that UCLA is one of the nation’s most anti-Semitic schools. "

      At UCLA, Jews are treated worse than Dalits , are they ?

  • HRW: Palestinian children pass out, vomit, from farming with illegal pesticides on Israeli settlements
    • There are no industrial standards for Jews in the West Bank. They can cut corners, they can use poisons or pesticides that are banned in Israel, they can dump toxic waste, they can dump sewage and they do all of it because Israel does not give a fuck about standards when it comes to where Palestinians live.

      The level of cruelty, shortsightedness and cynicism goes way beyond whatever moral cover Judaism could possibly give.

  • Obama's long & passionate Monday with Saban, Foxman, Hoenlein and other Jewish leaders demonstrates power of Israel lobby
    • There is a real patronizing angle to Zionist discussion about Iran- Iranians are shifty, they can't think strategically, they have no rights to power, only Israel is special.

      Give us a break.

    • You said it , Annie . Israel wants to destroy Iran for the sake of destroying it. Sowing trauma elsewhere in the region to go with Gaza and Lebanon and the West Bank and Egypt and Iraq. Because they can.

      And this is supposed to secure a Jewish state into eternity.

      Nothing gentle or mindful about Zionism. It's more like cancer

    • "Shalom" is the worst possible greeting for an ideology such as Zionism which breathes "fuck you" through every sweaty and grubby pore.

    • I think kashrut is very unfair to shellfish.

      When it comes to lobbying , ritual Muslim and Jewish butchers are on the same team.

      It would be great if eating kosher made Jews moral but it's ludicrous to think it could in the face of the evidence.

    • "They’re worried about something that they are busy bring about "-

      "Real understanding lies in finding simplifications that bring order to disparate facts. Such was the nature of Rutherford’s discovery and of his understanding; and why he felt able to reveal his findings to the Manchester Library and Philosophical Society. But Rutherford’s task was easier in one important sense: the world he laboured to make sense of was unchanging and unaffected by our understanding, if not necessarily our observation, of it. The same is not true of business and finance." Or Zionist influence

      Jewish plutocracy and stagnant wages on Main St are an unstable combination.

      Inequality has gone too high, too far , too soon

      Why empires fall.

  • Baptism of Kardashian/West daughter moves celebrity press to place Jerusalem to Israel
    • Today's Turkey (maybe tomorrow's Kurdistan) but what would have been Armenia if the Turks hadn't killed everyone.

    • Kardashian is a representative of a parallel reality known as celebrity so she fits right in with Zionism. She came to fame via her ass and Jesus rode to Jerusalem on an ass so there is something to work with there.
      Have to say though that her trip to Armenia to draw attention to the 100th anniversary of the genocide was impressive. Most TMZ users have no idea where Armenia is or was and Turkey likes it like that. Kardashian has a bit more depth than the other denizens of planet Celeb. Imagine getting involved in politics!

  • The most massive child abuse in the world
    • Gaza is Jewish holocaust trauma live

    • There are also societal attitudes of shame towards mental health disorders , problems with drug addiction, and pharmacies that are not well regulated -

      Same in Libya

      "“Libya has a practice of not seeking help for psychological problems, and the few trained psychologists and psychiatrists have very limited experience of treating trauma and consequences of torture and war,” the report said.
      “In addition, severe social stigma exists regarding those affected by mental illness. Psychiatric symptoms are attributed to the act of pagan symbols like the evil eye, magic or sorcery.”
      Ahlam Chemlali, one of the Dignity field workers, recalled how “videos of rape and torture were so widespread and popular that people would name characters from the videos, like the ‘butcher from Misrata’ or the ‘rapist from Brega’ as if they were actors playing in a horror snuff movie. Filmed torture seems to have been a consistent way of spreading or exposing fear.”

      Israel does the snuff stuff in Gaza. Trauma 24/7 from the experts. Because they are so civilized.
      "Hassan, who has worked at the mental health center since 1991, spoke a lot in our conversation about the meaning of psychological treatment during periods of unrelenting and continuing trauma. “I came to the conclusion that such treatment is not ethical,” he said. “For 23 years, I have been trying to help children living in trauma, but there is no guarantee that they will not be affected again. It’s as if I am just preparing them to deal with something worse. You cannot provide true psychological treatment when the patients have no protection, no guarantee that it won’t happen again and soon, when what causes trauma never ends,” he said. "

  • Israel could reduce anti-Semitic violence by not calling itself the Jewish state, Finkelstein says
  • White House 'trolls' Netanyahu by co-opting infamous UN cartoon to sell Iran deal
  • Faithwashing: the Muslim Leadership Institute and the academic boycott
    • Hoppy

      Say someone claimed to do regular work at a feminist club and then spent most of his time online posting the most misogynistic crap- that would be very like your shtick.

    • The only Muslims I can see Hoppy reaching out to are people like Walid Shoebat.

  • Rand Paul greeted by neocon opposition, in $1 million ad calling him 'dangerous'
    • Bipartisanship over Israel is vulnerable the longer the economic crisis lasts. Without wage inflation the GOP can't sell the American dream to voters. Economic uncertainty means ppolitical instability. Voters don't need Israel, which is a key weakness of American Zionism. Opportunistic pols will depart from bot scripts when it is politically profitable to do. Empires fall. The way of the world.

  • Hurt by the Israel lobby, Obama kisses it goodbye
  • Bibi talk: 'New York Review of Books' trivializes Israeli fascism
    • I like Shulman. He is a scholar for whom the certainties of Zionism are cheap and meaningless. He understands power and the madness of crowds and how far Israel is from Jewish concepts of morality. He reminds me of Akiva Orr, RIP.
      For Yossi I the failure of the system is unthinkable but for someone like Shulman the imbalances make it very likely.
      The pity of it all.

  • Double standard in US political culture: BDS is fine for Indiana, not Israel
    • Terrorism is such an interesting word when used by a country devoted to systematic dehumanizing violence. We are supposed to be appalled by terrorism and take the systematic dehumanizing violence for granted.

      "Another technique, used in Sejarah during the current conflict, is to drive armed carriers into buildings, often family homes, creating holes in the walls through which to deploy soldiers. The soldiers “immediately get saturated inside the buildings themselves … moving, because it’s so dense, between the one house and the other. Like worms moving inside apples.”
      In this manner, architects can become “archaeologists of the present”, piecing together how things unfolded – which building was destroyed by artillery, which by tank fire, which by bulldozers. Weizman now leads the Forensic Architecture team at Goldsmiths, University of London – a unique project that provides “architectural evidence” for international prosecution teams, political organisations, NGOs and the UN. Their investigations include drone strikes, violence by state security forces on the Ixil Maya people in Guatemala and the use of white phosphorous in Gaza during Operation Cast Lead. They’ve also looked at Israel’s tactic of “knock on roof” warnings, which has been used extensively in the most recent conflict in Gaza.
      Cities are always about the links between buildings in the street, networks, infrastructure. When war happens in the city, people die in buildings, the majority in their own homes,” Weizman tells me. By carefully examining those buildings, you can find architectural evidence. If the Gaza conflict were ever to make it to the International Criminal Court, Weizman supposes he’d work with the prosecution: “We would show where there’s a violation of international law in the way in which buildings are attacked.” In this way, architects could play a role in reconstructing and therefore resisting violence."

    • If the Palestinians were all gay, hoppy, they wouldn't be on Israeli calorie plans.
      Just fancy that!

      But straight Palestinians are a threat to Jewish freeloaders on the West Bank.

      Parasites are actually very important to ecological balance , unlike Jewish settlers, hence my use of the term freeloader.

  • DEAL!
  • 12 pretty good signs you're vacationing in an apartheid country
    • Mikhael

      Hebrew is the language of the invaders.
      You can spin botulism around it but Hebrew wasn't spoken as a patois around Jerusalem for over 2 millennia.

      And no Palestinian calls al uds Yerushaleyim, as the first name on the Arabic sign.

    • 14 .

      You notice that all the road signs in the indigenous area have the language of the conqueror first and that even when they use the indigenous language below they give the names of the towns as the conquerors pronounce them.

    • "Its multitudinous skyscrapers project financial global might. But almost every one of the 30 people at this house is forbidden to visit the great city, and the seashore too, because of their origins. -"

      13. You stand on a hill near an indigenous village at night and look toward the forbidden coast which is bathed in electric light . You compare it to the darkness of the indigenous areas and remember that even light is political.

  • Philosophy prof who likened Palestinians to 'rabid pit bull' ignites protest on CT campus
  • On Netanyahu's apology to Palestinian citizens of Israel
    • Netanyahu's apology is like a Fox apology. The damage is already done, the circus has moved on and sorry is cheap. No change next time around.

  • Israel spying scandal comes to light one week before Iran negotiation deadline
  • In Israel, the mask is finally off
    • Catalan
      There is no nuance to zionism, it is as subtle as racism.
      Whataboutery and indifference to israeli cruelty are the hallmarks of the bot in my book.

    • Yonah

      The Foreign Minister at the time- what was his name? He was quite decent. Israel never had a FM like him afterwards. The moment passed and Israel went rightwards and became more cruel.

    • Bintbiba

      I read recently about the Battle of Aughrim in Ireland , 1690 . The Irish lost. The soldiers were stripped of all valuables and left to rot on the battlefield. A commentator noticed how pale their skin was , a whiteness on the land.

      And if you look at Irish people today we are so pale.

      That is continuity. The music is part of that. There is so much knowledge in the music. Palestinians have the continuity too. Israelis do not. One reason they are so vulnerable to demagogues and Biblical horseshit.

    • The Fed and the one percent are driving the US over the cliff. I don't think it's advisable, myself. Certainly not in a democracy.

      Janet is hopeless.

      Watch as Wall St's fantasy about Main St wage inflation crashes and burns this summer. Equities are trading at 27 times average earnings over the last 10 years.
      Credit is priced with zero risk margin.

      too far
      too high
      too soon

      Also, catalan, it's very hard to maintain the façade of neutrality as a bot, innit

    • PFO

      Cruelty in the name of land is the same everywhere
      Jews whining about how they are treated in the US
      as a comfortable minority is a joke.

    • She didn't go into that. I just saw the sadness in her eyes.

      Reminded me of gol na mban san ár, the crying of the women after the slaughter, composed in Ireland in the late 1500s after another English massacre

      You have to keep going but it's very hard

    • I met a Tamil refugee today. From Jaffna. Left 5 years ago after the Government killed up to 70,000 Tamils in the final battle against the Tigers. She said it was hell. I was thinking about American middle class Jews in universities whining about their sense of victimhood.

    • Seuss saw racism in Korea or somewhere after ww2 and wrote the book. He wouldn't have been a Zionist.

    • Is Israel about a mask or is it something else ?

      Handsome liberal democratic gay friendly eternally sexy Dorian Israel has a dark secret. He swapped reality for eternal hasbara. Every vile deed of moral degradation leaves its mark on a picture hanging in Gaza which shows a very different Dorian.

    • Gaza saw Israel without the mask from day 1. Cruel heartless bastards wearing Stars of David.

    • Israel is a very sick place. BDS will help it re enter reality.

  • Jeb Bush bashes Iran talks as 'foolish' and hails Israeli settlements as 'new apartment buildings in Jerusalem'
    • Bornajoo
      I wouldn't bet on Hillary. She was the establishment candidate in the 08 primaries but Obama won as the economy collapsed.
      Same thing could happen this time if the S&P 500,, valued at 27 times average earnings over 10 years, blows up again. Warren could win huge with her anti Wall St risk taking stance. She would also be the first female president.

    • The GOP is hopeless. Very few votes to get over the line in Zionism.
      The GOP need to get Latinos rather than rich Zionists.

  • Washington 'sits shiva' for the 2-state solution
  • The liberal Zionist lament: Joe Klein and Jodi Rudoren try to explain away Israeli racism
    • Maxi

      the dual fantasy of helplessness and unlimited power

      and Yanks are beginning to see through it


    • Rudoren is in danger of being left isolated while the people move on, like a homophobe as the population went over to the side of gay marriage. Repeating hasbara memes may not be career enhancing for much longer.

    • This paper is very interesting on the subject of bias "

      The Role of Decision-Making Biases in Ireland's Banking Crisis

    • Of “Israeli Arabs,” Klein asserted incredibly, “their loyalty is to Israel.” -

      They can't have any Palestinians on to speak for themselves because they'll only say something incoherent, right, Joe ?

      "Slim Williams delivers a stump speech in blackface. This was an important part of nearly every minstrel show -- a performer delivers a political speech filled with puns and malaprops. The speaker's demeanor is reminiscent of the pomposity of Zip Coon; he aspires to great dignity, wisdom and intelligence, but his hilarious mangling of language always makes him appear foolish and ignorant."

      And now Sabras are at it - and Jews were so prominent in desegregation and everything

      ya salaam

  • American Jews are taking back their power from Israel
    • Hoppy should talk to some Muslims via his outreach programs to see how they viewed Protective Slaughter.

    • Good old Jew hatred. Nothing to do with Sabra sons of bitches who think cruelty is politically effective

    • What age are you, Hoppy? Israel is like a FRED process- Fast Rise, exponential decay
      It'll be even more odious next year and you think the kids are gonna go with Likud ?
      Go for a lie down.

    • Israeli Judaism went this way

      American Judaism went off in other directions

      Impossible to triangulate

    • The speech and the arrogance and the racism of the election finally cracked the monolith.
      Israel had been running on fumes for some time. In Hebrew it's fine to decide peace is pointless but they never translated successfully into English. Israelis do not give a f$ck and the penny finally started to drop for Americans. Bad faith .

      The bots took away the fig leaf of hope and they are paying for it now. Hope is for goy losers, they thought..

      I can imagine well intentioned anti BDS activists who wanted to take a stand against something they felt was unjust because Israel would deliver a better way. The stab these people got in the back is unforgivable. Bad faith is the essence of Zionism .

      "Netanyahu's reelection takes away pro-Israel students' most powerful tool: the existence of a government committed to peace. "The situation has gotten so bad, so indefensible, that, over the past year, the pro-Israel community has given up on defending Netanyahu's policies. Instead, on-campus activism consists of harmless events about Israel’s startup scene or innovative water conservation research. Even “defensive” actions by pro-Israel groups against student government BDS resolutions no longer target the foundation of the BDS movement (that there are human rights violations occurring and that the best way to stop them is to cut ties with those complicit in them), for while they often lack critical context, the citations in the BDS resolutions about Israel’s human rights violations are ironclad. When the pro-Israel camp cannot present an alternative to the cycle of violence, it is very hard to oppose loud, angry students who say they have the answer. - "

  • I want my country back
    • Parasites are fascinating, Just. Such a key part of nature. Why wouldn't similar processes work on our brains ? Plutocrats and their memes- exactly the same

      Zionism reminds me of cordyceps with Judaism as the ant

      or as this snail

    • Wall St is deluded.

      Inequality is bad for equity valuations

      Earnings in the S&P 500 look good because of low interest rates, low labor costs, low commodity prices, cost-cutting and tax optimization but not because of better sales -
      there has been almost no sales growth for the last 4 years. In other words, earnings have increased but not because companies are doing more business.

      It's all going to come crashing down .

    • "I want my country back"

      Even if it was released from the clammy grip of the bots the plutocrats would still be holding it by the balls.
      Get rid of all rent seekers and give Main St wage increases.

    • Rudoren reminds me of Mencken in his old age, when the country he analysed and skewered so expertly in his middle age suddenly became alien to him. The kids grew up and they thought differently to him and there was nothing he could do about it.

    • Obama has played Netanyahu like a violin. The shouty small dog versus the wily fox.

      Netanyahu has been relentless, the asshole.

      "Only a fraction of Obama’s May 19 speech was allotted to Israel and the creation of a Palestinian state. Yet the concrete language of that part—which contained names and dates, if not numbers—drew immediate and heated comment. The most controversial sentence was doubtless this: “The dream of a Jewish and democratic state cannot be fulfilled with permanent occupation.” It was a plain statement of an obvious truth. Obama, in addition, said that the shape of a Palestinian state would be based on the 1967 borders of Israel, only altered in accordance with “mutually agreed [land] swaps.”
      This had been the common understanding and phraseology of American-Israeli-Palestinian discussions over two decades; but in the past several years, the word “1967” was used less than before; and this became the detail Benjamin Netanyahu seized upon. Immediately after the speech, he issued a statement in Jerusalem that the 1967 borders of Israel were “indefensible.” He repeated the same objection after he met with Obama in the White House. The differences between the two leaders were played out once more in their speeches to the annual AIPAC convention.
      Without backing down, Obama explained the meaning of his reference to 1967: the borders of course would not stay the same, but land swaps would offset the differences. This candor, on the occasions when Obama shows it, is an impressive quality, and it seemed to be appreciated even by the AIPAC audience. Besides, on May 19 he conceded most of what Netanyahu could have asked. He alluded to Gaza only once. He offered no criticism of new Israeli settlements, as he had done in Cairo two years ago, and made no mention of the dispossession of Palestinians on the West Bank.
      From his silence on these points, it was clear that after the failure of the most recent shuttle diplomacy and the resignation of George Mitchell on May 13, Obama personally planned to initiate no further negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. He trusted that under the visible pressure of an Arab Spring of their own, now gathering on both sides of Israel’s borders, most Israelis would eventually see his words as a kindly prophecy.
      Netanyahu struck back as if Obama had mounted a deliberate assault with a threat of lasting enmity. Yet Netanyahu’s speech to AIPAC was emollient compared to his speech to Congress on May 24. There he made a conquest that can have few precedents. He began with brash familiarity, in a backslapping salute to Joe Biden; spoke with boyish humor about his early years as a diplomat within the Beltway, and his knowledge of an America beyond it; reestablished, with passion and simplicity, the close ties between America and Israel that Obama had sought to view with an impartial loyalty; in short, pulled out all the stops to undercut President Obama on his native ground. The speech itself was a tissue of clichés, anecdotes, and half-truths, but delivered with dramatic buoyancy and urgency as if his life depended on it.
      Congress gave Netanyahu twenty-nine standing ovations. How did he do it? By presenting himself to his audience as an all-but-American politician—one less lucky than they, and more brave, a leader with a fight on his hands; a real fight, in his own backyard and not six thousand miles away. He spoke with gusto of his part in an earlier episode of that never-ending war:
      I was nearly killed in a firefight inside the Suez Canal—I mean that literally: inside the Suez Canal. I was going down to the bottom, with a forty-pound pack, ammunition pack on my back, and somebody reached out to grab me and they’re still looking for the guy who did such a stupid thing.
      Netanyahu did not speak of the subsidized increase of Israeli settlements that accounts for the “certain facts on the ground” he had mentioned at the White House. He invoked the biblical names of Judea and Samaria as if they were as natural to modern Israel as St. Louis is to the state of Missouri. And Congress loved him, or seemed to think it should, from the very moment when he said in a flattering exordium: “Congratulations America. Congratulations, Mr. President. You got bin Laden. Good riddance!” The performance combined the maximum of demagogy with the maximum of smarm, and it mixed aggression, paternalism, and a preening collective self-love, in proportions that Netanyahu assumed Americans would be comforted by. Israel, this speech said, has everything in common with America. We are the home of freedom and wisdom among the ancients, just as you Americans are among the moderns.
      Netanyahu’s speech to Congress was also part of a larger strategy of his right-wing coalition. He got his invitation to address Congress from Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, and the Republican Party is now working to detach Jewish donors from the Democrats and to convert Republicans at large to the Likud and neoconservative politics that support a greater Israel. In the pitch offered to Americans, taking sections of the West Bank from Palestinians is as warranted as the taking of lands from American Indians. Mike Huckabee has indicated his sympathy with this point of view. Sarah Palin wore a Star of David on her necklace in her recent liberty tour. Glenn Beck has planned a mass event, “Restoring Courage,” on August 24 at the Southern Wall excavations in the city of Jerusalem. Americans of the chauvinist and evangelical right are being invited to think of Israel as a second homeland.

      Considered as a response to this predicament, Obama’s speech at the State Department, with its broad-gauge pronouncements and its candor regarding Palestine, was utterly overmatched by Netanyahu’s speech to Congress. It is an unhappy fact of politics that victory goes to the pressure that will not let up. Netanyahu’s belief in his immoderate purpose is stronger than Obama’s belief in his moderate purpose."

  • Why did Herzog run scared? He fears the Israeli people
    • Oman

      You never see stock pictures of Oman where everyone is in uniform either. Only in Judistan.

      And why has Israel never produced a book of poetry as good as Rumi's? any ideas ?

    • Annie

      the Likud breakthrough was in the 1977 election when Begin, a Polish Jew, harnessed the frustration of the Mizrahim with the Ashkenazi dominated Labor party and its Ashkenazi focus .

      That was also linked to the contemporary phenomenon of politics by poorer people as the post war consensus broke down. Also happened in India with the Congress party losing influence, for example.

      The right took over Israel - the left were never very kind to Palestinians but the right tried to create a different reality- like the GOP with Reagan.

      Bennett came along 30 years and many iterations later. He lives in a different religious world as do a lot of his voters.
      He would be something like Israeli Tea Party.

      Also nowadays Mizrahim and Ashkenazim right wingers are very ideologically close.
      But Likud got the ball rolling. and it was mostly Mizrahi to start with,.

    • That is so true, Walid. Liberal Sabras can't go that far. But, even still, when someone like Sommer writes that, it signifies a lakhbatah gaamidah.

      It's trying to fit the modern world into a worldview from 1000BC .
      The Orthodox drive the process. They have the certainty. It aligns wonderfully with the financial interests of the 14 families and the need for an army.

      "A real territorial exception, the land of Israel is far more than a territory. It is the image and the sign of the Jewish exception. Its intimate link to God sends back to God’s intimate link to Israel. Any change of the relations between Israel and its land is nothing but the clear sign of a change of its relations with God. However, no alteration of this kind is irrevocable and definitive. And none is as deep as appearances seem to tell. The land is a person endowed with will, which may be negative or favourable, now accepting now rejecting its inhabitants.
      Those who live on it, breathe a pure air and its dust for those buried in it has an expiatory power, comparable to that of the altar of sacrifices. Its successive conquerors did not manage to put down roots, which reveals its positive resistance to any illegal takeover. The land of Israel is hit by nothing but what it accepts to be hit by. Essentially pure, nothing could possibly stain it. The destruction and the oppression of a foreign ruler only has a limited impact on it: perhaps the divine impulse from above is no more as intense as it used to be, but evil has no grip on it, and it has itself the power to reject impurity. To consider that the effects of impious acts committed in the Holy Land through centuries are non-existent or fundamentally inessential is a way of implying that the relation of history to it, is like water off a duck’s back. The land of Israel is no more in history, but out of it. The rags of spoliation and destruction mask an essential, divine and unchanging land whose present troubles by no means affect it and which, some day, once again, is to reveal itself in all its untarnished glory. Indefinitely idealised, the land medieval Jews are dreaming of is this land toward which they turn to pray thrice a day. But it is also far more than that, and really something else. The more it is perceived as holy, the more it is lived as different – and as terrible."

      From a lecture by Jean-Christophe Attias and Esther Benbassa: ISRAEL, THE LAND AND THE SACRED

      "While Ginsburgh has written more than a dozen books—with titles like Awakening the Spark Within: Finding Your Soulmate; Kabbalah and Meditation, and Interpretation of Dreams and Paranormal Experiences—he is best-known for his notorious essay “Baruch Hagever,” praising Baruch Goldstein’s 1994 murder of 29 Arabs in the Cave of the Patriarch. Goldstein, he wrote, was following the five halakhic principles: sanctifying God’s name, saving life, revenge, eradication of the seed of Amalek, and war. "

      Baruch Hagever :

      Some things start good and go bad- other things are born bad and stay bad

    • Why would anyone want to run Israel ?

      "Since where else in the world can the prime minister speak the way our prime minister does? Where else on earth can the prime minister warn about the civil right and democratic duty to vote when it is exercised by a minority that makes up some 20 percent of the entire citizenry of the country? But in the Jewish state everything is permitted, for the Jews. After all, this is a moral no man’s land of the Western world.

      But no matter much we try to evade the final scene, we will fail since it is already written. Justice must be poetic. Sadly, it's becoming clear that the historic period will not come to an end, until we complete our transformation into an absolute monster. Only then will we succeed in breaking the chain of heritage of moral innocence and win the chance of real political emancipation.

      The Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and maybe even the founding of the State of Israel, are just subplots in the Jewish tragedy, and the Palestinian and Israeli victims — supporting characters. How many more victims will be required before we learn our lesson? What level of pain do we need in order to feel it? The future will tell.

      In the 2015 election we learned that it is impossible to complete historical processes through imagination. Maybe it's only natural: Has anyone ever really learned something from the experience of others? It has become clear to us that the time has not yet come for a dramatic political change and that Israel needs to see with its own eyes what is at the end of the path it is treading down with ever widening strides. "

    • It is very interesting to read the reactions of Liberal Sabras now the monster is out in daylight and baring its fangs . Pandora's box has been opened.

      "Yarrow, older and visibly more fragile, was undeterred, and had returned to Israel for a concert at the Jerusalem YMCA. Nobody anticipated the circumstances in which the show would take place, as the performance, scheduled more than a year and a half in advance for March 18 and 19.
      Between songs, Yarrow reminisced about the original Selma march for civil rights, which he participated in, and the recent commemoration of the event, where he performed at a synagogue. Standing below a banner that proclaimed “Celebrating Respect and Acceptance,” he spoke of love, peace, and decency and warned “if we do not protect freedom and justice, it will go away.”

      At the very moment he was speaking, critics in the U.S. were comparing Netanyahu’s “hate speech” to race-baiting politician George Wallace - the symbol of all that the marchers at Selma opposed.
      If any of this was going through the mind of the host, Ambassador Dan Shapiro, he didn’t let it show. After praising Yarrow’s program, he told the audience of how both Peter, Paul and Mary and David Broza were the soundtrack of his childhood and adolescence and young adulthood.
      Shapiro is a liberal American Jew fluent in Hebrew who attended Reform movement summer camp and spent a college year abroad in Jerusalem. He and his wife Julie Fisher wear both their personal connection to Israel and their support for progressive causes on their sleeve.
      Shapiro, a close advisor to President Obama, who would soon harshly criticize Netanyahu’s racial rhetoric on Election Day, saying that “ Israeli democracy has been premised on everybody in the country being treated equally and fairly … If that is lost, then I think that not only does it give ammunition to folks who don't believe in a Jewish state, but it also I think starts to erode the meaning of democracy in the country."
      As I watched the Shapiro-Fisher couple swell in pride as their young daughter joined Yarrow singing his most famous song “Puff the Magic Dragon,” I mused that the 40-something couple, who met in Reform movement summer camp might be members of the last generation of American Jews to grow up feeling that their deeply-held liberal beliefs and an attachment to the state of Israel are in any way compatible. All signs point to a future in which the little girl who was singing would live in a world where she would have to choose between one or the other. "

  • Netanyahu's victory ‐ what is the cost?
    • Bintbiba
      Israel is not stable. Injustice always bears that risk of disequilibrium. Zionist hegemony is not a rule of nature,, So I would not rule anything out. It will come down to how many goys are sickened. The news of the world is the template.

  • An American translation of Netanyahu's racist get out the vote speech
    • But also the insight from many painful episodes in history rather than some biblical riff.

    • Freedland. Usually he would spin it but not now. Too hard to triangulate. Netanyahu went too far.

      Israel really let down people like him. Bad faith now turned inward.

    • Walid

      Israel as a unit is sick. It can never find balance, hence all the wars.
      It is unlikely to end well. The standard of living is irrelevant. Deep dysfunction is what counts.

    • Fink had a different strategy and didn't deserve the flak. He is one of the good guys. I guess this Israeli election and the reaction to it will reinvigorate BDS and stop a lot of pointless but perhaps unavoidable bickering.
      They may all be on message as Zionists but they support a losing ideology. Israel is a very sick puppy. Driving a wedges of justice between Sabra hardliners and US jews will be great fun.

    • Torture, shortsightedness, plutocracy, underfunded education systems, inequality, police brutality, settler colonialism, exceptionalism syndrome- the 2 countries have quite a lot in common. But the US has a much more robust public debate and capacity to change when necessary. Israel has put all its eggs in the basket of darkness.

    • Jews in diaspora behave differently to jews in israel. Israel has to be racist because of Judaism and exclusion/chosenness. This is suppressed in the diaspora because it is not practical but in israel which is full of half educated bigots it is let rip.

    • What is the point of j street?

      This election is a vindication for max Blumenthal. He got so much crap from the jewish establishment for his feeling the hate in jerusalem video. And he was right.
      Now Israel is toxic.

    • The Hebrew trap. What is logical in hebrew sounds vile in English. And it does matter what the goys think , Israel.

    • A pyrrhic victory. Zionism is fucked when anti BDS campaigners say Israel is unbackable. Phil's mom may keep the faith but young American Jews will not. Lose the universities and it is over. Khalaas. God and her dopey people AGAIN. Dersh must be sickened. It is almost like Bibi is an antisemitic conspiracy rather than a jewish bogeyman. A fitting end to a sick hate filled career.

  • A response to Michael Douglas

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