ahhiyawa concerned citizen This user account status is Approved Comments Comments Posts Posts What if "going all in" results in the same stalemate at present. What would Israel and the US do if all that would be accomplished is another 1,000 murdered Gazans and hundreds of slain IDF soldiers. Not counting the bombardment of civilians, all the ordnance Israel has thrown against HAMAS has failed to stop the rockets or dented their will and capacity to resist. On Reading Amos Oz on Gaza The American, republican system of politics & governance is geared to the squeaky wheel. American Muslims & Arabs are a recent mix of immigrants who had at first preferred keeping a low profile politically while earning & making a good life was the way to go. 9-11 and its immediate aftermath taught them that was a bad idea. Today they are fully engaged in US civil society and political activism, learning and making common cause with other established minorities & civil liberties organizations, like JVP for instance. For decades Zionists had a free road with no opposition and got all the grease, but now there is a youngster making noise and you better believe those in power are paying attention. On In photos: Over 1,000 New Yorkers protest Israel’s attack on Gaza The Israelis have accomplished what they had sought to destroy, Palestinian unity. The oppressed either side of the green line are learning they don't need the US, fellow Arabs or the world to liberate them, they merely need themselves. HAMAS, by refusing to go quietly into the night, like a Palestinian David against an Israeli Goliath is indeed a turning point in the I/P conflict. On 10,000 march on Qalandia in solidarity with Gaza >>>I think Israel will collapse before relevant change happens in the US<<< There is nothing more Byzantine and inscrutable than American politics. What you think may very likely be what sits at the center and purpose of American policy in the Middle East, because the 'collapse' of Israel would solve a considerable chunk of the headaches the US experiences domestically and in the region. On US plays decisive role in Israel’s attack on Gaza >>>An ability on the part of the Hamas/IJ fighters to inflict casualties on the IDF would raise the public image of the Palestinians in America.<<< Israelis and their supporters can smudge, distort and rewrite the battle fought in Shejaiya, but its they who disengaged & withdrew from the fighting leaving HAMAS still in possession of the contested places. That's going to be about as impossible to bury as Hezbollah's victory over the IDF in the 2nd Lebanon War. On Finally, Israel is alienating the US mainstream media HOW HAMAS WON http://www.foreignaffairs.com/ The more I reflect on this the more I'm becoming convinced the game is up for Israel in Gaza, and that they have suffered a tactical as well as strategic defeat no less serious than what they suffered in Lebanon II. The Israelis have withdrawn from the fighting, though they continue with the terror bombing of civilians and hospitals. The full facts that will become known regarding this current IDF SNAFU, may likely prove that Israel is done parading through Gaza as they are done launching flying columns of armor through Lebanon. On Massacre in Gaza: At least 60 killed in Shuja’iyeh, over 60,000 in UN shelters Netanyahu’s grandstanding to the contrary, does not disqualify HAMAS fighters as an effective and competent asymmetric fighting force. It’s a deadly error to make judgments regarding HAMAS combat capabilities against the conventionally armed forces of Israel, which has led to massive underestimation of HAMAS by the Israelis. The Israeli incursion into Shijaiyah, a Gaza suburb, is piling up scores of dead and wounded Palestinian civilians, a part of Gaza city where Israel claims its fighting HAMAS and destroying tunnels. However this may be, HAMAS has continued to launch a counter offensive of its own by invading Israeli territory by means of tunnels and killing IDF soldiers under the hostile conditions of a war fighting environment. Despite Israeli Push in Gaza, Hamas Fighters Slip Through Tunnels http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/world/middleeast/gaza-israel.html >..."The morning clash was the first time in the current war that the militants killed soldiers inside Israel. It came just days after 13 Hamas gunmen poured from another tunnel into Israel in an attempted assault. Israeli officials framed the encounters as successes in thwarting attacks on Israel. But they were also an indication that Hamas could strike even during the invasion through a tunnel network that Israeli officials just revealed they had been studying for a year to plan a way to destroy them"...< On Hamas wants to pile up ‘telegenically-dead Palestinians for their cause’ — Netanyahu, on television This is how the end begins, at the sinews of civil society that's the engine and driver of the evolution of governance & policies in western societies. This is not happening for Palestinians as rapidly as some would prefer, but neither had the liberation of other oppressed peoples been achieved in a day. No oppressor state can survive without the patronage of a great power, and the US has supported many tyrannical states only to see that support diminish and many of them fall. Marcos/Philippines, Shah/Iran, Afrikaner/S. Africa, Somoza/Nicaragua and many others. Israelis and Zionists proclaim the world is against them, but that's a self fulfilling prophecy due exclusively to their own arrogance and aggressions. The fanatical justifications for today's mass murders is strengthening and expanding BDS and the movement for justice for Palestinians that Ellen Davidson and other activists champion in the "Vineyards of liberty" of the grand American Experiment. Israel cannot win that debate. On This Jew can’t support Israel A PA Security Force refuses to subdue a Palestinian demonstration? Abbas is finished. On In Photos: Activists clash with Israeli and Palestinian Authority forces during protest in Bethlehem The fact that AIPAC and other Israeli front groups could not prevent a reversal of NBC News correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin's return to Gaza has likely prompted these threats. Whether they act on them and willfully slaughter journalists would be a very unwise move. On Israel is in a pickle load more comments
