RE: The end of liberal Zionism.
An old Soviet joke:
Rabinovitz is asked why he did not come to the last Communist Party meeting.
— If I knew it was the last meeting I would come myself and bring my entire family.
So, is it the end of the end or just beginning of the end? I mean – how long are you going to milk it?
Just asking…
And the dogs? They keep barking…
There are 76 million Tamils without a state of their own living in India and Sri Lanka; there are 35 million members of the Yaruba people in Western Africa; and 30 million Kurds living in Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. The Scots and the Welsh don’t have their own states either despite decades of active campaigning for national independence. And then, of course, there are the Palestinians themselves.
Funny! Have you heard of Tamil Tigers fighting for independent Tamil state. Actually, they are the ones who “invented” suicide bombing. Kurds had been fighting for their own state for quite some time. There is a significant Scottish movement for independence from Britain.
And so on… Native Americans, anyone?
Actually, Israel is the best example of people re-establishing their nation state in their ancestral home.
As far as Palestinians – they want the entire area for themselves, don’t want to share. They are not getting anything any time soon.
1982 war forced PLO out of Lebanon.
So, to say that it was unnecessary is a stretch.
This, of course, forced PLO into negotiations and then Oslo Accord, which, as we now know, was a failure. That was a failure.
I would also argue that later leaving South Lebanon and abandoning Israel’s local allies was wrong.
However, all these lessons were learned resulting in the current political climate where left wing parties are laughed out of office.
Netanyahu must be doing something right if both Trump and Putin want him reelected.
@Talking Arse
So, following your logic, Americans are indigenous to America, not American Indians.
Interesting…
She needs some education.
Just like Eno/Occaneechi are the indigenous people to what is now called America, Jews are the indigenous people to what is now called Palestine.
Ossinev March 25, 2019, 10:30 am
A question which Boris being into DNAsties should really address is “Did Jews evolve like all other human beings as in Homo Erectus/Sapiens etc or would such inference be seen as virulently “Anti -Semitic”.
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In that comment you obviously separate Jews and their evolution from “other humans”. Only an antisemite (a Jew-hater, not a person who is against all semites) would make such a statement.
Also, you are not too sharp even considering your bias, and your Kumbaya singing is boring.
I am done responding to your comments.
“… can`t get my gentile head round that one ”
You were essentially asking if Jews are human. And I hate to bring the big H into the discussion, but we were being exterminated because many “gentiles” answered “No”. Did not have to check my Hasbara manual for that.
And yes, I found it very ironic that you exhibit the same traits that antisemities like you attribute to Jews.
@Oss
“Did Jews evolve like all other human beings …”
This question was raised some 80 years ago. That’s why we need Israel, so to not depend on the answer.
” … and save the cost.”
That’s very Jewish…