Shenfield: “…Rubber bullets” is a misleading term….” Well there’s no evidence so far to suggest that the lads were done in by rubber bullet. They are distinctly round and coated a certain way…the wounds would reflect that and there’s been nothing consistent with those kinds of bullets. Apparently it’s not conclusive, but there’s more of a suggestion that a .223 bullet was used, but weapons that fire those are also carried by Palestinians. So correct your own mind. And don’t heap blame on people when there isn’t conclusive evidence. I know, I know, that’s too much to ask here …
Just a cotton-picking minute! There’s no evidence yet to suggest or confirm that these two boys were shot by Israelis. All we know so far is that the Israeli soldiers were all using rubber bullets, which are not generally lethal. Indeed the investigation now points to the possibility that the boys were shot by other armed Palestinians who witnessed in that area. Please correct your story to reflect this. Thank you.
@ Talknic ” Israel forbids dual use materials, making it all but impossible for the Palestinians to maintain the upkeep on their bombed out infrastructure! BTW it’s up to the “Israel, the Occupying Power” to make up the shortfall in necessities in Occupied Territories.”
Pull your pants up! I thought you guys knew your stuff!!! Apparently not!
1,270 trucks carrying 33,020 tons of goods entered Gaza
Construction materials are entering the Gaza strip every day!
Here’s COGAT’s report from last week:
http://www.cogat.idf.il/Sip_Storage/FILES/6/4456.pdf
From May 25-31 there were 225 truckloads of construction materials, plus 34 truckloads of plumbing and ceramics.
It’s more important for the a*&holes who run Gaza to truck in weapons, nice cars and other profitable merchandise through their underground tunnels than to take care of the basic needs of their own people!
@Talknic the “hundreds of UNSC resolutions?” You mean the ones concocted by the Arab and unaligned countries at the United nations that ONLY ever single out one little country for alleged abuses while ignoring the Chinese takeover of Tibet, human rights abuses in Cuba, slavery of 10% of the population of Mauritania?
No, the sum total effect of these “anti-Zionist” Jews is not very influential at all, even though they make a disproportionate amount of noise and are megaphoned via various kinds of media. Much like the nominal effect of “Israel Apartheid Week ” on Israel’s actual economy that grows by leaps and bounds.
If you boycotters want to do something meaningful today…go out and picket every Thai restaurant and pull chocolate bars off of grocery shelves. The Thai army is equipping its troops with the TAVOR rifle, and Swizerland has ratified a billion shekel order for drones.
It would be tragic to see what kind of a conference 3 kooky “Open Hillels” can put together.
while the Gazans continue to poison themselves by not making a priority out of fixing their own water systems.
@Blownaway
“Jews of Israel are mostly not indigenous, but east European refugees and converts from Brooklyn.”
Today’s Israelis are mostly second and third generation descended from 600,000 or so that were there in 1947, plus descended from about another million Middle eastern and North African Jews exiled from their home countries (some after living there for 2,000 years) plus others who have made what is considered a RETURN after generations of displacement and exile. There’s some from NYC & Europe, obviously, but they’re only a portion. It’s interesting that the Jewish experience around the world over the last 2000 years is being persecuted and knocked around because …we’re outsiders, we don’t belong. Jews in America still get this same kind of old hate even after living here for generations. Israel is where Jews come from, so it’s only natural that it’s where we go back to, or at least preserve for the sake of cultural and religious integrity.
Then again, there are those, possibly like yourself, who feel that Jews have no right to exist, and no right to call anyplace home. And it is especially because of those kinds of pathetic bigots that we are reminded how important Israel is and will always be.
Hi Annie,
Let me simplify your problem for you. To spare you some headaches from your usual clientele here. Along the masthead where it says MONDOWEISS etc. add a disclaimer to the effect that anything resembling a pro-Israel or pro-Jewish position, statement, or request for clarification will not be tolerated and is grounds for immediate and permanent banning from the site in the interest of freedom of speech. Maybe add something more about “Nakba-denial” not being permitted either. That should cover it. Then people like me will know enough to not even bother. It would be like that gang on facebook “A group for Palestine and its friends. No usurper zios allowed”
@Shingo (Jews) owned less than 7% in 1948.
Perhaps. But the local Arabs that lived in “Palestine” owned even less, about 4%, much of the rest being un-farmable land belonging to either the Ottoman Empire or absentee landowners.
Children used as TARGETS by the IDF?
You must have a nose like Pinocchio!
@Light …pretty cheap shot about the Holocaust….
You don’t see many Zionists bothering to comment here because we know it’s a hate site, and we usually get censored…but sometimes it’s amusing to compare the distortions that get thrown around….
The Iran snark doesn’t even make for a good red herring. Jews not only have a continuous presence in the area for upwards of 3000 years but also a linguistic, scriptural and archaeological history that binds us to the place. A
Palestinian children are subject to military law and courts in the territories by mutual agreement as of the 1993 accords, which were the last set of understandings that there are. Since then the PalArabs have refused several offers and have always rejected peace talks.
@Citizen Re: Adman Gottlieb financing Leon Uris to write EXODUS.
Unfortunately, there’s a more than just a little doubt that the relationship and events such as you describe above … are true.
You’re quoting Khalidi, and loquacious as he was he could have been making this all up. Not the first time anybody’s done that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_(novel) and http://www.martinkramer.org/sandbox/2011/10/exodus-myth-and-malpractice/
It’s questionable as to whether there was even money allocated by Gottleib or his agency to pay the commissioning of such a book ..so we’ve got ourselves YET another urban legend that tries to delegitimize the existence of Israel.
Where have we seen this before??