|| James Canning: Is a Jew a Zionist if he or she thinks Israel should serve its own best interests by ending the occupation of the West Bank? Or an anti-Zionist? ||
If s/he believes in Jewish supremacism in/and as large as possible a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”, s/he is a Zionist.
|| jon s: Over the last few years I’ve read 4 books that imagine the destruction, or near-destruction , of Israel … ||
The people of countless ravaged countries in the Middle East and throughout the world can’t begin to comprehend how hard it must be for you to read books that imagine harm coming to Israel. :-(
But look on the bright side: These books can’t help but firm up your belief in and devotion to the righteousness of Jewish / “Jewish State” colonialism, (war) criminality and religion-based supremacism. :-)
… Samer Arbeed, 44, was arrested by Israeli forces on September 25 while in “good health,” yet two days later he was hospitalized with a fractured rib cage, kidney failure and bruising all over his body, according to the prisoner rights group Addameer …
Looks like a price was exacted “in the dark, without witnesses and camera”. That said, Mr. Arbeed is fortunate to have been brutally beaten in a “most moral” way.
Mooser: … The prepuce has several functions. Removing it is somewhat analogous to removing the lips from your mouth, for one thing. ||
Ouch! :-(
|| jon s: Talkback, I wrote that it’s an expression of love and life and that makes me sound like a child molester? … ||
jon s, the fact that…
– your “expression of love and life” involves mutilating an infant’s penis; and
– you are unable even to begin to comprehend how f*cked up that is,
…does, in fact, make you sound like a child molester.
The fact that you are incapable of understanding that simply drives home the point.
|| … I love my little grandson more than anyone or anything in the world. … ||
But by your own admission your desire to snip skin off his penis is your over-riding concern, your #1 priority.
|| Mooser: … Oh, I see. The fact that people didn’t get what they deserved (consideration for a position or school let’s say) because of discrimination means they didn’t deserve it in the first place. … ||
Dude, I seriously do not want to be on the “wrong side” of you but I didn’t say or imply – and I know that you know that I didn’t say or imply – that people who “didn’t get what they deserved because of discrimination means they didn’t deserve it in the first place”.
But maybe you think that “the Jews” deserve a religion-supremacist state because they “didn’t get what they deserved because of discrimination”. But I’m pretty sure that you don’t.
|| … Does the same logic apply to rights? Those that haven’t had rights, should not receive affirmative action towards getting rights, because if they didn’t have them, they don’t deserve them. … ||
Where have I stated that people who haven’t had rights shouldn’t receive them because they don’t deserve them? Please do tell.
|| … Doesn’t look good for those poor ladies tied up in the rapist’s basement, does it? … ||
Why doesn’t it look good? I think those poor ladies are entitled to justice and accountability and equality. Do you think they aren’t, or are you suggesting that their victimhood isn’t addressed until every woman – regardless of how well or poorly her life has progressed – has been compensated for the suffering “those poor ladies” have experienced?
|| Mooser: “Yes.”?
Really, “eljay”? … ||
affirmative action: (in the context of the allocation of resources or employment) the practice or policy of favouring individuals belonging to groups known to have been discriminated against previously; positive discrimination.
Yup.
|| … You are embracing the ‘zero-sum equation’ for rights and reparations? … ||
Nope. I’m in favour of equality for all and reparations for those who are entitled to them.
|| … Because if somebody gets something through Affirmative Action, it means they took it away from you? ||
Nope. But it might mean that s/he got something s/he did not deserve. I don’t see anything wrong with the ideals of equality and merit.
|| m1945: eljay
Please explain colonialism. … ||
You’re a Zionist – you know full well what it means because it’s part and parcel of your hateful and immoral ideology.
But just to humour you:
|| … Should we Americans set a good example of equality by abolishing Affirmative Action which discriminates by race, ethnicity & gender? ||
Yes.
|| Peacefan: Mayhem, because they don’t want to have to be force out of their home I suppose. … ||
Mayhem failed to grasp the obvious because as a Jewish / “Jewish State” supremacist (Zionist) he believes:
– not that Israel should be the secular and democratic state of and for all of its citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees, equally; but, rather,
– that non-Jewish Israelis (lovingly labelled a “demographic threat” by Zionists) belong elsewhere.
|| m1945: … Even Yasser Arafat … was not native to Judea. …
If Palestinians are indigenous, why did the UN put a 2-year residency required in Palestine to be considered a Palestinian refugee? ||
The people living in and up to n-generations removed from a geographic region – in this case, geographic Palestine – are indigenous to the region. Very obviously that includes refugees and emigrants and excludes citizens of homelands throughout the world who – having chosen to embrace the religion-based identity of Jewish – consider themselves to be 2000-year-removed “exiles” or “Ancient Israelites”.
So I agree with you 100% that both the right of return to and preferred immigration status to all parts of geographic Palestine belong to its indigenous people.