"Again, there was no religious tests. All we needed was to prove our Jewish ancestry. 40 years ago it was done with documents, which we had. Also at that time an Israeli Jewish relative could confirm the relationship."
Right. But if what I've heard is correct, someone who has a father who passes the Jewish test and a mother who does not, will not pass the Jewish test in Israel? Correct?
"Now, another option is to do a genetic test – with the modern science confirming family history."
OK Boris you're going to have to elaborate on this one for me.
Are you telling me that 'genetic tests' are accepted as tests of 'Jewishness' by the Israeli authorities? So that someone who according to 23andme has a gene which is most commonly found in the Caucasus region passes the Jewishness test?
Please provide further info, with a link to Israeli official policy on 'genetic tests' if possible.
"As far as Ivanka Trump, Jews have a tradition of accepting religious converts. I think Israel recognizes only Orthodox converts – none of this Reform easy ones. So, she would need to bring her papers from her rabbi, and the local religious authorities would confirm that she is kosher. I think that’s the process – as I had written before I am an atheist and am really far from it."
But Boris, you said Jewishness had nothing to do with religion!
Yet here you are telling us that someone who according to your beloved 23andme would likely be considered to have mixed Scottish and Czech genetic markers could indeed be accepted as Jewish provided she meets certain religious requirements? How is that, if religion is irrelevant to this whole Jewishness thing?
You're tying yourself up in knots here, Boris. A partial quote from the wiki entry on your sacred haplogroup:
Ingush 88.8% (Balanovsky 2011), Chechens 55.2% (Balanovsky 2011), Georgians 21% (Wells 2001)-72%, Azeris 24% (Di Giacomo 2004)-48% (Wells 2001), Iraqis 24%(Al-Zahery 2011)-25% Al-Zahery 2003 and Sanchez 2005, Uyghurs 34% (Shou 2010), Yaghnobis 32% (Wells 2001), Uzbeks 30.4% (Shou 2010), Greeks 10%-48%(Martinez 2007), Muslim Kurds 28.4%(Nebel 2001), Pashtuns 20-30Z, Lebanese 30% (Semino 2004)[dubious – discuss](Wells 2001), Ashkenazi Jews 24%(Nebel 2001)-29% (Semino 2004)
It's pretty bleeden' obvious that this genetic marker clusters most notably in the Caucasus region. In addition, many many groups have that marker in substantial numbers, but Jews are well down the list, and even then it tells us nothing about where these Jews came from.
"As the matter of fact, the center of that area is the place where Hittites had their empire. And I wrote before about an image of a Hittite prince who “looked Jewish”.
So, you people just can’t handle the truth."
Oh well that settles it then. Hard proof right there.
Seriously Boris, you're providing comic relief at this stage.