NorthOfFortyNine This user account status is Approved Comments Comments Posts Posts http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/travel/destinations/get-your-heart-racing-in-the-holy-land/article15584830/comments/ Guys, I know this is off topic but please see link above. A glossy,paid-for travel piece through occupied territories in Canada's national newspaper. Yet nary a mention of the occupied part! It was an above the fold number in today's "Life" section. Annie, someone!, may want to pick this up. Nof49. On Israel supporters target New America Foundation for upcoming event with Max Blumenthal There was this precious tidbit from Hoenlein's interview towards the end: The real mesage is that we all have to be united. ... Jews have to put aside differences today to recognize that we are facing challenges that need all our our resources, every Jew, everybody that cares. And if we are united we can unite the rest of the world around us. But if they see our divisions we drive people away and they get confused and they don't understand. And it means political leaders and religuous leaders from other sectors - we have to bring everyone together if we are going to meet the challenges that future generations will hold us to account for what we do now because their security - their lives - will be at stake in these decisions. Precious. -N49. On Hoenlein says Obama will pick Hagel for ‘Ministry’ of Defense — whoops, make that Defense Department I suppose nobody panned it because the card has nothing to do with Christmas? -N49. On Obamas’ Christmas card gets thumbs down over cranberries and trifle You can't make this shit up. The person in charge of furthering Israel's good image via social media is found to have posted a picture of himself in blackface on Facebook, along with a reference to Obama. That's gold, baby, gold. What does this say about Tablet, the rag that just did a fawning profile of the operation "Sacha" led? Did they not see this picture? Or did they see the picture and omit mention of it? Someone should ask. -N49. On IDF spokesman posts blackface photo of himself as Obama, then issues non-apology Great work, Allison. Thank-you. -N49. On The war in the West Bank How can Beinhart publish this guy? See: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/22/will-the-ceasefire-last.html Count the outright fabrications: "Hamas initiated the current round of hostilities against Israel at this particular moment not at Iran’s behest, but because it felt emboldened by the rise of Islamist allies in the region," "Ever since it assumed control of the Gaza Strip by force of arms, " "For its part, Israel responded as severely as it did to Hamas’s provocations (firing an anti-tank missile as an IDF jeep on the Israeli side of the border; " "it continues to oppose progress toward a two-state solution." The author constructs a fantasy out of whole cloth. How can we take Beinhart seriously? -N49. On Ceasefire terms are almost identical to those after Cast Lead 4 years ago To add emphasis to the rabbi's point, pls see the following. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XGzBwLd0OfY#! This is a clip of an anti immigration protest in Tel aviv. The idea here is to influence the election. Shocking. Are these people that clueless? Or are they just so brazen that they feel norms of civilized behaviour don't apply to them? Methinks the latter. On Christian leaders will not be cowed into silence about widespread human rights violations As a quick addendum / clarification to my post above (still at the moderators): I did not want to imply that just because there is a streak of ethnic nationalism within a community it does not imply that it is intrinsic to that community that there be ethnic nationalism. Pierre Trudeau was a Quebecer and also a great universalist who chastised the separtists as being petty provincialists. Same goes for Israel. Just because one is jewish does not mean one is destined to become an ethnic nationalist. I know you don't want to discuss this anymore but I just don't know how one can discuss zionism without recognizing it for what it so plainly is. -N49. On Exile and the Prophetic: Chomsky’s absent ‘Jewish’ @ Bruce >> Nationalists demand loyalty from citizens. This is exactly the kind of language you heard from 19th century nationalists. Bruce, It appears from my perspective, at least, that you are not fully clear on the distinction between ethnic and civil nationalism. Sean and Annie did a good job in trying to walk you through it, but to no apparent avail. Ethnic nationalism is premised on who the citizens are (based on race, language, religion, culture, etc.) whereas civic nationalism is premised on shared ideas the citizens believe in. The US is an example of civic nationalism. A better example is Switzerland -- here we have. French, German and. Italian citizens all proudly boasting of their Swiss identity, this via shared Swiss values of limited central government, strong property rights, etc. While Canada is for the most part a society based on civic nationalisn, there does exist a strain of ethnic nationalism in Quebec amongst the separatists. This is where I first got a taste of this philosophy. It is a nasty piece of work. The chant at the time was Le Quebec au Quebecois. As an Anglo, I knew they were not referring to me -- I could have had roots back 200 years in the province but I would never be Quebecois, I would never belong there. Ethnic nationalism is profoundly alienating and illiberal. Zionism is just another form of ethnic nationalism. There appears to be discomfort at this because of the implications. For example, it would be absurd to separate Quebec nationalism from the French language and concepts of pur laine kin folk. But to pursue a parallel analysis into Zionism is to expose yourself to accusations of anti-semitism. I don't know how one gets around this. I do know, however, that to deny the political genus that Zionism belongs to is to misread the beast at hand. -N49. On Exile and the Prophetic: Chomsky’s absent ‘Jewish’ >> "High productions values." I wonder who funded this effort? On Extremist youth group storms French mosque after releasing anti-Arab manifesto load more comments
