@Jon S
” Two states is still the only possible solution which is both morally sound and politically possible”
Still wondering around in the Alt Zio Universe I see.
Even Jabari has stated clearly that a one state solution (with full citizen rights for Palestinians) is now the only way forward:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hebron-businessman-with-ties-to-settlers-may-be-lone-palestinian-at-bahrain-meet/
His views of course are anathema to the Vichy PA cabal.
As for the run of the mill Benjaminised US delegation more of the same hypocritical bull…t. Interesting comment from Byrne though viz:
” Those people, if they are allowed to live and work together as they want to, maybe they will find peace on their own without some push from the rest of us, which seems to be getting us nowhere.”
I wonder if he will follow the logic of this this through by proposing that the US ceases its 3.8 billion per annum “push” gift to Zioland? Somehow I think not.
@ejay
“Looks like a price was exacted “in the dark, without witnesses and camera”. That said, Mr. Arbeed is fortunate to have been brutally beaten in a “most moral” way”
All run of the mill stuff for Zios and part of the daily ritual and responsibility for being a “light unto the nations”
Viz:
and according to security sources, the Shin Bet was given permission to employ “extraordinary measures” during his interrogation. Such measures can include beatings, forcing prisoners into uncomfortable positions, sleep deprivation, shackling and subjecting prisoners to extreme temperatures.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-terror-suspect-injured-in-israeli-custody-regains-consciousness/
NB
“The Shin Bet security service later confirmed Arbid was taken to a hospital, saying only that he “did not feel well” during interrogation”
Aagh Sigh – these war criminals do have a heart after all !?Or was it just that they wanted the hospital medics to have a quick exam and sign him off as being “fit and healthy” so that they could take him back to start a new bout of “moral” interrogation.
@Jons S
“This is a clear-cut freedom of religion issue.”
I will assume that the “clear cut” was an inadvertent use of words.
This is not a question of freedom of religion. It is a question of freedom of decision. Children do not have “freedom” of decision to refuse when an adult “decides” to mutilate their body to satisfy or confirm the adults adherence to a religion be it Judaism,Islam or Paganism.
The practice is quite simply barbaric. What might change the ritual (sic) acceptance of this barbarism is perhaps an adult in later life seeking prosecution of the parent and / or the rabbi for GBH.
“She took a spiritual trip to Israel, like millions of people every year”
Wow. I am sensing something greater than me in the room and have begun to feel seriously “spiritual”. Israel seems like an ideal place to put my new found “spirituality” to the test. Can anyone provide the link to enable me to apply for my $57,000 grant.
@Sheldonrichman
“Uh, does she not know that the Maccabees forcibly circumcised men and boys?”
All circumcision of children be it Biblical(sic) or modern is by definition child abuse. Of course those Western societies who have proposed to ban the practice eg Iceland have been subject to the usual accusation of Anti – Semitism /Anti Islamism.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/18/iceland-ban-male-circumcision-first-european-country
For those of us who are truly civilised and who live in the 21st century as opposed to the post Neanderthal era it is quite simply a cruel and barbaric ritual visited upon innocent and defenceless children simply to satisfy the mystical religious whims of deluded adults.
If a consenting adult chooses to have the procedure then he is entitled but the state/taxpayer should not bear the burden of treating any medical or health complications which may arise.
@dabakr
“And I am assuming the commenters here understand that a pretty large proportion of protesters from gaza would absolutely infiltrate southern Israel if there was no force to stop them”
Can you explain exactly how the indigenous Palestinian native population can “infiltrate” the homes and lands from which they were driven by foreign non native colonists. It`s like saying that in Apartheid era South Africa the black natives were “infiltrating” their own lands if they attempted to return home from their colonists manufactured and controlled Bantustans.
BTW Grateful if you would have the courage to DESCRIBE your “one State” in response to BCG as in:
“What’s your solution, DeBakr? One state, two states or apartheid?”
I do wonder what these IDF zombie snipers think of when they wake up in the morning. Perhaps they think that they will get seriously moral today and beat their previous daily Personal Bests for live hits. Perhaps they think that they will focus on left or right legs or alternate just to spice up the day ? War crimes can become so boring after a certain period of time.
@ejay
Thank you for the redirection. I fear that we are perhaps urinating into a very strong breeze however. Mondonut and his ilk simply cannot or more likely are unwilling to face up to the simple fact that the Arab land of Palestine was forcibly colonised by foreign practitioners of a religious cult. That colonisation process which originally involved massive ethnic cleansing and genocide (the Nakba) is ongoing but is now heading for the sewer of history as those pesky native inhabitants who were not forcibly exiled simply cannot be driven out en masse as in those halcyon days of the initial colonisation scheme – and they keep breeding.! And very importantly unlike in 1948 there is the Internet,24 hour live news streaming , mobile phones etc giving the new generation the opportunity to monitor and judge Ziolands ongoing colonial crimes.
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@mondonut
“Right here. Item 1 of 3”
Second chance. Precise sentence(s)/paragraph(s) please. No desperate Ziointerpretations/Zioinferences acceptable.
@mondonut
“They oppose a group that declares the land itself is Arab, that is has a specific ethnic makeup”
Where exactly in the BDS statement of aims did you “find” this made up tripe ?
Just to help: