a little elliptical in places but i have the feeling i agree with what you said in that post, Yonah. Points well taken.
I would say this:
1. ADL doesnt matter — it simultaneously does an important job, and goes over the top sometimes, and it’s good to call the ADL out when it does.
2. “The Jews run Hollywood” — i would say, yes to a great extent, they do (I’d like to say “we” coz i am jewish but sadly, i have no piece of that particular action ). It would also be fair to say that as a people, we bestride the legal world (at least in the US) like a colossus. Neither statement is inherently anti-semitic, but either COULD be if the intent was to be racist in saying so. Thus, as an example, one could say — without being racist — that “the African American community seems to produce a large number of excellent athletes”. That might just be a statement of fact. But we all instinctively know that this kind of remark COULD be intended to mean blacks are “natural athletes” (sub-text — they should stick to entertainment and sports) and if it is uttered to make that kind of point, yes, it is very deeply racist. So “The Jews run Hollywood” is a distraction. Context is everything. It’s complicated. Some things just are
3. What a lot of the comments in this thread seem to miss is that Oldman was saying that the things the very publicly visible movie star Gibson was saying were not anti-semitic. In other words, Oldman (ab)used the public forum of a published interview to opine that to say the things Gibson said was OK because it was just letting off steam and fundamentally not racist. And that is where Oldman is terribly wrong…….and the sometimes OTT, sometimes just really annoying ADL was entirely correct to excoriate him for his interview —even if they could have done it in any number of different tones (they should try a few new ones out).
But I don’t get a scintilla of satisfaction or enjoyment in reading Oldman’s drivel about how we are the Chosen People blah blah blah — he should have cut that cringe-worthy, toe-curling crap out because this concept of “Chosen People” is, frankly, the stuff of theology and repeated misunderstanding throughout history by both christians and jews, and it is clear that Oldman hasnt got a clue what he’s talking about.
A simple apology for a stoooopid and uninformed white-washing of the odious Gibson would have sufficed. Shouldnt have needed more than a few sentences.