Sorry, I meant to post this before the event! The Chicago City Council had an all-star panel today testifying on the dangers of going to war with Iran. John Mearsheimer, Scott Ritter, Stephen Kinzer formerly of the NYT, someone from the Institute for Policy Studies. Good for Chicago. Will they post a video?
I assume this is like other road shows. It’ll work out the glitches in the Midwest then come to the Council on Foreign Relations in a few weeks. I can’t wait.
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Philip, Have you seen this Huffingtonpost article?
Einstein Letter: Belief In God "Childish," Jews Not Chosen People
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/14/einstein-letter-belief-in_n_101626.html
Re Chicago City Council
Bravo! Their action needs to be replicated by state and local bodies all across the nation!
phil youre name keeps popping up everywhere lately…
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12834
Speaking of which: the Obama-oids have gone out of their way to distance themselves – i.e., "reject and denounce" – those two hate-criminals, even though, as Philip Weiss trenchantly avers, a book by Obama's point man on the Middle East says pretty much the same thing. In response to all this, Scott McConnell, editor of The American Conservative, dryly remarked: "At this point one wonders whether the people who deny the dramatic influence of the Israel lobby on American politics feel a little bit silly."
Have no fear, yesterday our protector Chairman Howard L. Berman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee issued the following statement:
“I am very concerned about the implications of an extensive new agreement for nuclear cooperation with Russia at a time when Russia has not been fully supportive of tough and far-reaching multilateral sanctions to convince Iran to cease its dangerous uranium enrichment activities.
“The Bush Administration has not received enough support from Russia in dealing with Iran to justify moving forward with this agreement at this time. Administration officials briefed our committee last week, but they were unable to offer convincing answers to our questions; we will give them a further opportunity in hearings on this subject next month.
“The Foreign Affairs Committee will very carefully review the agreement itself and all relevant issues, including whether additional legislation is required.”
Remember Postville, Phil?
This is food for american comsumption:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080513/NEWS/80513006/1001/NEWS
This is the same food without the "fuck the american bozos" package:
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/108541.html
Via Xymphora
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/
For those who know not the Postville saga here is a past comment from The One David:
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In the 90s, Lubavitchers from Brooklyn headed west to a small town in the middle of Iowa and took over a meat packing business. Their relations with the goyim were the subject of a book–
Stephen G. Bloom, Postville: A clash of cultures in heartland America, Harcourt 2000.
Bloom is pretty sympathetic and, as the title indicates, tries to paint the encounter as somehow symmetrical. But the depth of the hostility to the goyim is still very shocking. The group ended up literally taking over the town and driving the gentiles out.
Although the book had a major publisher it remained pretty well buried But it was widely discussed in the Jewish community. For example–
"Indeed, there are many Jews–Orthodox Jews and undoubtedly non-Orthodox Jews–who were quite offended by Bloom’s book, by his disloyalty to the Jewish people, demonstrated by his 'washing Jewish dirty laundry in public.'"
http://www.bnaiemet.org/ColumnR/2004/r2004_kippur1.htm
As NotInMyName wrote, the sect should not be confused with all of Jewishness. But it would also be wrong not to recognize their significance, particularly overseas. I believe our current White House Chief of Staff is a Lubavitcher.
Posted by: David | December 12, 2007 at 09:56 AM
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And of course, this is Witty right after:
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The Lubavitch do some great things…
…etc etc finishing with:
The opportunistic potshots at the Lubavitch are really petty, innaccurate, and revealing.
Posted by: Richard Witty | December 12, 2007 at 11:14 AM
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Way to go, Witty…
Look at this Charly, watch the expression and body language of Friedman carefully (video – below quote).
Basically I think, "our friend's" problem is, that he finds these arguments convincing; including the use of the bracket. See Glenn Greenwald:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/14/friedman/index.html
"Suck. On. This." That comes from one of the most revealing (and most repellent) three minutes of commentary one can find, illustrating the real face of the Friedman-led American foreign policy class (h/t Atrios):"
This is the kind of relatively honest and cogent public (on the record) thinking by Obama that makes AIPAC-style Jewish Americans fear him:
http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_on_zionism_and_hamas.php
Compare his nuanced responses in this interview with Hillary's and McCain's.
It will be interesting to see which way the working and lower-to-middle-middle-class white vote goes come November. Seems to me its a wash as to illegal immigration since all three candidates are the same (amnesty), and its a wash as to no PayGo spending, for the same reason (though McCain win win more here simply by going over their heads in terms of deficit financing), and it seems a wash in terms of Affirmative Action (just give me your wallet, Whitey, it's only fair–although Obama has actually said he would apply the economic means test, and disquality his own daughters); and so, what't the third key to the throne? Foreign policy, the war in Iraq, the next war with Iran… I'm guessing most lunch bucket Americans take to the view that the war on terrah's been mismanaged, and they're naive about how we got into the war, and buy the line what do we do now? They don't like "cut and run." Chaney's smart there. They won't see Iran coming down the pike, being set up as I type…
I'm afraid insane McCain will be the next president. Lieberman knows what he's doing.
And I'm not even talking evangelicals.
Nobody will wake up until the next president comes on TV to tell the masses we need to reinstate the military draft to save our country.
In the May 12 issue of the New Yorker, on p. 114 there is a cartoon of a woman speaking to a man on a tractor with a cornfield in back of him. The caption:
" What don't you understand? When my clients fly their guests over your farm on the way to Vegas, they'd like to see the words 'Mazel tov, Josh' spelled out in your cornfield"
Is this funny because this farmer doesn't get it that the overlords want to be flattered as they look down on America? This is really weird. I cannot think of a benign interpretation of the cartoon.
I love Stephen Kinzer for his superb book "Bitter Fruit: The Story of the American Coup in Guatemala."
Michael Blaine
http://www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com
'In the May 12 issue of the New Yorker, on p. 114 there is a cartoon of a woman speaking to a man on a tractor with a cornfield in back of him. The caption:
" What don't you understand? When my clients fly their guests over your farm on the way to Vegas, they'd like to see the words 'Mazel tov, Josh' spelled out in your cornfield"
Is this funny because this farmer doesn't get it that the overlords want to be flattered as they look down on America? This is really weird. I cannot think of a benign interpretation of the cartoon.
Posted by: peters | May 14, 2008 at 09:51 AM'
As the grandson of Minnesota farmers, this strikes a nerve!
Michael Blaine
http://www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com
The hayseed and the suit.
Prey and predator.
Try this cartoon on the Country cable TV channel.
"And I'm not even talking evangelicals."
Yes, I realize. I got into a dispute with that brand of McCainer's not long ago. Yes, pretty amazing white man in utter diespair and empathy for all the foetuses left dying without care .. Iraq, Iran? No mercy there!
You sound gloomy, but then, I meet it more frequently over here too.
Have you noticed that Phil has changed his little icon from blue to green?
I think it his counter Hillary strategy: "fake it till you make it." Why don't you let him infect you with his optimism virus?
LeaNder, what's the consensus where you live over the USA's three main presidential candidates? Is there one? What's the usual take you hear, assuming some interest?
What's the thing most of your fellow citizens are most ignorant of regarding the USA?
Just curious since the USA seems to have its sticky fingers in every pie world-wide.
Interesting question, in my closer environment, family, friends its 100% pro Obama.
But on Super Tuesday (was it?) even our pubic channel 1 team broadcasting from over the big Channel (the US) was 100% pro Obama. It led by the most outstanding journalists we have on TV at the moment. But if you consider that he has a show called: Hard but Fair; with an enormously good research team backing him, in which he usually confronts VIP's, politicians, et. al. with opposing viewpoints on issues, but also confronts each of them with their own earlier statements, they have made on the subjects, yes this was utter harmony. And it surprised me, … but then? See above.
I haven't watched it for a while, admittedly. And I do not watch to much TV.
I made a similar remark a couple of years ago; we could could try to slightly balance machine manipulations and other strategic hampering matters :-)
“Everybody in the World Except US Citizens Should Be Allowed to Vote and Elect the American Government”–Leading Intellectual Slavoj Žižek (3/11/2008)
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/12/world_renowned_philosopher_slavoj_zizek_on
Big channel was meant to be: Big Ocean
LeaNder, do you think the Eurpean inclination towards Obama is simply because he's relatively introspective, willing to withdraw even in his public statements, towards reflection while simultaeously running for the top seat bush calls The Decider seat? He's trying to get to the Third Way beyond the usual left and right? If so, what will he, did he learn from, say China's emerging form of structured capitalism?
While coming from (and staying in) the gaited community, he goes out every day to help those who live in the slums, even the rural communities and working class wastelands, if one can believe him, that is, those who live in the areas western capitalism left to rot quietly?
If war with Iran would push oil to $300 would taking the Israel lobby down a few pegs send it plunging to $80?
If the Israel lobby is seen as a key factor behind surging gasoline prices, that will be a big cross to bear.
http://www.counterpunch.org/
"LeaNder, do you think the Eurpean inclination towards Obama is simply because he's relatively introspective, willing to withdraw even in his public statements, towards reflection while simultaeously running for the top seat bush calls The Decider seat?"
I think the European inclination towards Obama rests on to pillars: One that he is as far away as possible from Bush (Merkel will not consent). Two that he is a "hybrid", his very being visualizes bridges between cultures and not the clash.
This guy and his campaign are a winning team. I couldn't believe what I saw in the last campaigns of the democrats. But then I think America was traumatized by 911, and this was carefully exploited.
"He's trying to get to the Third Way beyond the usual left and right? If so, what will he, did he learn from, say China's emerging form of structured capitalism?"
I admittedly did not look really deep into these his economical positons. (and prefer not go deeper into third ways; I e.g. was never a fan of Blair,…) Things are complex. China, India rising, yes. I somehow trust him that he chooses the right people. Maybe the West needs to build up structures too like the microcredits in Bangladesh?
I watch mainly the War on Terrorism issues as most of us over here. At one point the utter narcism of the neocons and pro Israel hardliners plus their attack poodles made it really hard to deny that Israel was a central pivot. (let's see what Finkelstein writes)
To me as to many over here, that is the main point that matters. Stop a war against Iran. Do something in Israel/Palestine. That's very important to the ME.
"While coming from (and staying in) the gaited community, he goes out every day to help those who live in the slums, even the rural communities and working class wastelands, if one can believe him, that is, those who live in the areas western capitalism left to rot quietly?"
You think this can't be, this must be feigned? You studied law. Don't you think he can see that not all things are right in the US. You have the highest rate of prisoners. And blacks seem easy prey. According to studies female blacks do much better, how comes? I have a tiny bit of hope that the money that goes into bell curve related studies (AEI incidentially) goes into more democratic studies of the problem.
You had bridges breaking down, Katherina with warnings beforehand that the dams wouldn't hold, but just look at all the money that is spent to fight this idiotic War on Terrorism. No Saddam was no saint, but his country was secular.
I am no fan of Sarkozy, but many Europeans think that Israel is much closer to Europe, and not long ago Sarkozy suggested an economical union around the Mediterranean Sea allied to France. Merkel called him off immediately, and told him if anything this was a European project. But that would be a a good way, to get a little of the burden off US shoulders. At least it would be worth trying.
The unilateral connection between Israel and the US, is really not such a good thing. It pushes the whole rest of the world into a observer position. It creates narcism on one side and resentment on the other.
One day I'll tell you the whole story about the Israeli military historian whom I four or five years ago defended against a really bad net hoax and libel, to realize after an exchange and a closer study of the case, what might have triggered it. He had answered a simple question by the Dutch interviewers, how the Netherlands or Europe could help Israel with: "No thank you, Israel can help itself."
That was around the time all Europe could witness the war on Terrorism and the demands: Faster Please (Ledeen) on to Syria and Iran. If I remember correctly, I have to check.
LeaNder, can't wait to hear your story about the Israeli mililtary historian. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Otherwise, what you say, I could not agree more. But I'm just a Ron Paul supporter, who will probably now vote for Obama. I'm definitely a minority over here in the USA. I say that, though I choke on Affirmative Action and Illegal Immigrant Amnesty.
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