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Yoni – In the past you claimed “as an historian” that King Herod was not the king of Judea, and that was false. Now, I would be curious to see how you “confirm as an historian” the antisemitic stereotype.
BDS is winning, admits top Israeli “sabotage” strategist.
Electronic Intifada – 21 April 2017
EXCERPT: “The boycott, divestment and sanctions movement against Israel is winning, a top anti-BDS strategist has conceded.
“At the ‘Ambassadors Against BDS’ conference in New York last month, former Israeli government advisor Gidi Grinstein said that ‘in 2016 our community probably invested 20 times … more resources in dealing with this problem compared to what we invested in 2010.’ Yet despite these tens of millions of dollars spent combating BDS, Grinstein asked: ‘why are we not winning?’
“Leaked report highlights Israel lobby’s failures”
“The Reut Institute, founded by former government advisor Gidi Grinstein, has conceded in a secret report jointly prepared with the ADL that Israel’s efforts to thwart the Palestine solidarity movement have failed.
“Key Israel lobby groups have conceded that they have failed to counter the Palestine solidarity movement, despite vastly increasing their spending. The admission is contained in a secret report that The Electronic Intifada has obtained.”
Times of Israel – May 24, 2016 – By Raoul Wootliff
“Dysfunctional Israeli leadership failing utterly in battle against BDS, state watchdog warns
“Highlighting dismal propaganda performance during 2014 war, comptroller cites lack of overall strategy, absent funding, divisions between ministries, failure to coordinate with IDF.”
To quote Patrick Martin, Canada’s Globe and Mail correspondent in Israel:
Globe and Mail, Feb. 23/16
“Israel is increasingly concerned with the successes of the boycott and divestment efforts. In 2014, foreign direct investment in Israel dropped 46 per cent from the previous year, in part, a United Nations report said, because of BDS efforts.
“These initiatives are taking hold at North American universities, churches and trade unions, where many institutions are dropping investments in Israel or Israel-connected companies. In Europe where hundreds of academics and entertainers are personally boycotting Israel, major companies such as telecom Orange and water company Veolia are pulling out of Israeli ventures, and some EU governments are putting warning labels on products produced in Israeli West Bank settlements.”
Times of Israel – May 24, 2016
“Dysfunctional Israeli leadership failing utterly in battle against BDS, state watchdog warns
“Judge tells Government: allow BDS” by Mike Cushman June 22/17
“A High Court judge has ruled that the Government was exceeding its power in trying to direct Local Government Pension Funds to ignore calls for BDS and abandon ethical investing. The Government, he said: ‘has acted for an unauthorised purpose and therefore unlawfully’.“
“Jamie Potter, Partner in the Public Law and Human Rights team at Bindmans LLP said: ‘This outcome is a reminder to the Government that it cannot improperly interfere in the exercise of freedom of conscience and protest in order to pursue its own agenda.’ This goes beyond a welcome victory for BDS campaigners. All supporters of the right to free expression and the right to oppose Government policies will welcome this push back against executive over-reach.”
“[British] Government acted unlawfully over council boycott restrictions, High Court rules”
“Activists herald a ‘victory for Palestine’ after court rules that attempts to prevent local government ‘ethical’ boycotts of Israel are unlawful.”
Well, if no man is an island, Scott must be a whole country, an hysterically white one.
DaBakr – nice job with ‘everybody sucks’ #4 on the four part Hasbara manual.
We rock, they suck, you suck, everybody sucks. Right?
Nice attempt at diversion – NOT.
“Jewish money” is a reality…/… This tended to cause some resentment.”
“Whether or not my history teacher was correct…”
You doubt it? Hasn’t your own experience and observations comported perfectly with that synopsis of Jewish history? Hasn’t it withstood every investigation, abided all questions, and come out smelling “mighty lak a rose”?
Besides, the pattern obtains throughout the entire world, doesn’t it? Where ever men oppress other men, and wish to do them harm, they make them their bankers and financiers! That’ll teach ’em.
“Can you please explain how Monsanto causes so much death, suffering and destruction?”
Here’s the Mass Senate bill.
SECTION 1. Chapter 30b of the General Laws is hereby amended by inserting the following section after section 23:
Section 24: Prohibition of Discrimination in State Contracts
A) A person who submits a bid or proposal to, or otherwise proposes to enter into or renew a contract with, a state agency with respect to any contract in the amount of ten thousand dollars ($10,000) or more shall certify, under penalty of perjury, at the time the bid or proposal is submitted or the contract is renewed, all of the following:
(1) They are in full compliance with Massachusetts Anti-Discrimination Laws (G.L. c. 151b; G.L. c. 151e; G.L. c. 149 §§ 105A, 105B and 105C; G.L. c. 272 § 92A; G.L. c. 272 § 98; An Act to Establish Pay Equity, 2016 Mass. Acts c. 177 (effective July 2018).) and
(2) They do not currently, and will not during the duration of the contract, refuse, fail, or cease to do business with any other person when that action is based upon such other person’s race, color, creed, religion, sex, national origin, gender identity or sexual orientation.
B) Any policy adopted by a person or actions taken thereunder that are reasonably necessary to comply with federal or state sanctions or laws affecting sovereign nations or their nationals shall not be construed as unlawful discrimination in violation of Massachusetts Anti-Discrimination Laws.
C) Violation of this Section shall result in rescission of the contract.
SECTION 2. This act shall take effect upon its passage.
For the purposes of legal construction, “person” in A.2 would include US and foreign corporations. The strictures of A.1, which merely restates existing Massachusetts General Laws, are now extended in A.2 to the much broader concept described by the phrase “do business with”.
To a lawyer, this proposed law is clearly targeting BDS as a form of discrimination against a “person” by an extremely broad definition of “person” and an extremely broad definition of potentially discriminatory activity.
“Jewish money” is a reality. (As I understand it, from my schoolboy days), the Bible forbids usury, the lending of money at interest, I suppose because it leads to the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. In medieval Europe, on the base of the Bible, it was illegal for Christians to lend money at interest. However, the Jewish theologians decided that although it was forbidden for Jews to lend to Jews, but they could lend to non-Jews. This is how Jews became the bankers, and some became very rich indeed. Christians who wanted to invest in business had no alternative but to go to the Jews for money. This tended to cause some resentment.
Whether or not my history teacher was correct, it is certainly true that Zionist money is being used to corrupt the democratic process in the USA by the large amounts given to the election campaigns of politicians willing to support their cause.
If someone moves to a country and eventually becomes a citizen there following the local procedures and with the consent of the native society that is one thing. However, moving to a territory under the auspices of an occupying power (Britain) and then conspiring to dispossess the local inhabitants and destroy their society is an act of colonialism and a crime.
“Schumer has a young Asian woman”
Good Lord, if she appears Asian, can she possibly be an American citizen? Somebody call ICE!
“Jewish establishment element which favors “self-determination” for Israel but is quick to label anyone who Jewish establishment element which favors “self-determination” for Israel but is quick to label anyone who favors the maintaining white majorities in the historically white countries a hateful bigot.”
Scott, don’t worry. There is tremendous cooperation between Zionism and those who “favor maintaining white majorities in the historically white countries”. Those two ideological soul-mates continue to work well together.
So, Chuck Schumer wants to suppress free speech in the US, to “benefit” Israel?
“According to Brun he saw five prisoners killed, and believed five others were also.”
It’s a slippery slope, “Keith” and once you start down it, there’s no telling where you will end up.
“And what if the Bible is true?”
And what if the things you are liable to read in the Bible just ain’t necessarily so? Was little Moses found in a stream where he floated on water till old Pharaoh’s daughter fished him (she said) from that stream?
“As a Jew yourself ,it looks like you’ve internalized the anti-Jewish stereotypes.”
“jeff_davis” should look to Zionism, where he will see those anti-Jewish stereotypes shattered, and a healthy Jewish identity emerge!
” is tolerated by the moderators.”
They even let illegal settlers post here.
“Yet Yonifalic, the Anti-Semitic meshumad and self-confessed war criminal”
Must be tough on “Yoni” being the only IDF soldier that may have committed war crimes. I can see why you despise him.
BTW, how did you avoid committing any war crimes during your IDF service “Jon s”? Oh, ‘reserve duty’?
“Jon s”, why don’t you explain for the non-Hebrew-speaking people what a meshumad is, and why Mondo should ban people for being meshumads?
It’ll give you a chance to shine as a teacher, and make Zionism look better than ever.
““An Act to Prohibit Discrimination in State Contracts”, states that anyone entering into a contract with the state of Massachusetts shall not currently or for the duration of the contract “refuse, fail, or cease to do business with any other person when that action is based upon such other person’s race, color, creed, religion, sex, national origin, gender identity or sexual orientation.”
My reading of this excerpt from the bill means that it will not apply to BDS actions because BDS actions are not “…based upon such other person’s race, color, creed, religion, sex, national origin, gender identity or sexual orientation.” Right? The anti-BDS legislation here in Illinois had specific language about Israel, BDS, companies, etc. that made it explicitly “anti-BDS,” not just generically “anti-discrimination.” Does this Massachusetts legislation have more explicit language in it? If it’s simply redundant of other anti-discrimination legislation, and has no explicit anti-BDS language in it, but has pro-Israel/anti-BDS forces spinning it to make it seem like it states something that it in fact does not (as is implied in the article), then I guess I’d say what’s the big deal? Save one’s energy to fight against actual anti-BDS action/legislation.
But I’m assuming there actually is explicit stuff in the bill that just wasn’t presented in this article?
No, it’s run and populated by critical-thinking Jews and non-Jews, not by Zionist tools like yourself. If you really studied what’s said on this site, you’d know that there is no real support for Hamas here, only for Palestinian justice.
Open your eyes!
While they are at it – they should go for a law that mandates ‘ Confirmed Zionists should be treated as g-ds on Earth. Penalty for not doing so ‘ will be sent to Palestine to be killed by them’.
“Monsanto surely causes more death, suffering and destruction by 10 to most of the world then the relatively small i/p conflict.”
Can you please explain how Monsanto causes so much death, suffering and destruction? I only know it from its product ‘Roundup’ (glyphosate). It is a herbicide which kills plants very effectively by intercepting an enzyme pathway that occurs only in the vegetable kingdom. It is harmless to animal life. Suppression of weeds is essential to productive agriculture. I use gallons of the stuff on my land. If glyphosate was banned, there would be famines across the world.
Apropos your disgusting nom de plume:
For the record:
As he revealed during a speech delivered in Jerusalem, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter held Arafat in high regard:
“I personally think that Yasser Arafat did the best he could for peace. Not many of my countrymen agree. I knew him quite well. He took a heroic action in the Oslo agreement for which he won the Nobel Peace Prize. For the last 3 ½ years, as the elected President of the Palestinian people, he was kept in prison in disgrace and still expected to command the full authority of his people and he was held responsible for acts of violence.”
“More recently, we’ve seen an abandonment of the fair and objective and balanced role of the U.S. government in the negotiations between Israel and her neighbours and sometimes enemies. Lately in particular, our president [George W. Bush,] has totally complied with the desires of the Israeli Prime Minister [Ariel Sharon] to the detriment of the Palestinians and the detriment of their hopes for the future.” (From the text of the comments delivered by U.S. President Jimmy Carter on 10 January 2005, at a meeting in Jerusalem organized by the World Council of Churches’ Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel)
“we can either have international law or we can have Israel” The best way to deal with Israel’s violations of international law is to enforce international law. That is a job for the Security Council. There is no ‘death penalty’ in international law: if a state is recognized by other states then it exists and no-one can make it go away.
“Removing racist colonial settler invaders is easy”. You can describe those who arrived in Palestine before May 15, 1948 as racist colonial settlers, as well as those who have settled in Palestine, outside the borders of Israel, since 1967. Those who migrated legally into the recognized State of Israel are not racist colonialist settlers. Neither are any of those born in Israel who have stayed there.
That answer I wrote was for Hughes, because his comment made me think about the fact, that all of the European countries have different point of view, when talking about different minorities and religions. In that matter you can’t really say: “In Europe this and that..”
I have lived and studied in Denmark. I also speak Danish. I have had Danish classmates who are Muslims and all though I have a quite good picture of the Danish society, how it works and how they think about minorities, immigrants and different religions, I have not enough knowledge to say that they’d have different standards on Jews and Muslims when we talk about cartoons. But with the knowldege I have of Danish people and society, I’d say, they have had cartoons mocking Jewish people too. That does not mean, that there would not have been loud objections to them, but as I’ve said the Danish people have a long and strong tradition in the freedom of speak and expression, so I assume they’d still have been published.
As in here, in Denmark too, majority of the people have nothing against moderate Muslims, but in Denmark they have had big problems with fanatic Wahabbist Imams who preach against Danish laws and engourage people to illegal actions. So if you wish to analyse that Danish cartoon case, you need to first find out the backround of it and the context to where and when it was made.
I have not mentioned Charlie Hebdo even once, since I do not speack French and I am not so familiar with the French society since I have never lived there. And I don’t know where you live, but incase you did not know, all the European countries have their own history and that is why they also have very different position to f.ex. minorities and different religions in their society. The fact that I dare to talk about the Nordic countries and specially Sweden, Denmark and Finland is, that I speak all of these languages, I have lived/had close realtions to all of them for decades and I also constantly follow local medias and what is happening in the political/social atmosphere around here. (Norway and Island are culturally so close to us, that I can often say that I asume, they think/act quite similar, but can’t be sure, since I don’t follow their local medias.)
So, if you really wish to study “the case Danish Cartoons” vs. Jewish cartoons, you should go there and interview people who have really made researche on the subject. It was so big case then, that I am sure there is plenty of material too use.
There are bds movements against some of those countries. Some are under full blown sanctions. If you weren’t such a lazy ass you would know that.
Schumer has a young Asian woman with a sign saying “US Senator Chuck Schumer” walking beside him?
“No, it is you calling me a “hate nut,” ”
you hate nut but love shack, at least you honest.
parental lyric advisory white people swear so much but not too much you’ll be ok. i think theres a Phil in it, a baad Phil, but I think its a Rosen, maybe its him with all the hate, but love shack at the Macadamia Manor. also cool glasses, gorgeous little kid.
but i do suspect it’s slander, some people are into that
Have always favored two state solution, which makes me, I suppose, not an anti-Zionist. But curious is that Jewish establishment element which favors “self-determination” for Israel but is quick to label anyone who favors the maintaining white majorities in the historically white countries a hateful bigot.
Thank you for calling my attention to Yonifalic and his comments, which I had not read before. I do not find them to be antisemitic, but rather insightful and fact-based. Reporting unpleasant truths about Israel and even about Jewish history does not make him antisemitic. I say this as a temple-attending Reform Jew who does not see facts or truth-telling as a threat to my Judaism. We need to be open to learning the unpleasant truths about our history and not be so quick to dismiss them as antisemitism.
No. No need. No one has ever called any of these countries “the only democracy in [Asia, the Middle East, the Caribbean]. The United States doesn’t subsidise them to the tune of a few billion dollars a year. They cannot make the American government dance to their tune. (Well, maybe Russia can now.) Political leaders don’t say we share the same values. (Well, maybe that’s changing too!)
Bertold Brecht said that everyone should speak about their own disgrace. That’s what we’re doing.
And I can’t believe that even the likes of Neil Gorsuch – even the late Antonin Scalia! – would uphold this law.
Compare this with the community in Quebec that voted down – by a few votes – a request for permission to open a Muslim cemetery. Muslims are the new Jews.
In a book I read, can’t remember which one, I read so many, a man accused of being a self-hating Jew said, “I don’t hate myself. I hate YOU, you ****ing bastard!”
In Nov. 2007, I experienced a CUFI-fest in Miami. Hagges tribe of fundamentalists united with south Florida’s right wing Jewish community as “Zion’s Fire” Banners, dancers, singers and a band whipped the crowd into a frenzy of spinning, jumping, clapping, twirling and moved the rotund Hagee to link arms with men in skull caps and dance the Hora-not to Hava Nagila, but to repeated choruses of: “Shout for joy and victory! Bat Yerushalyim”
From one end of the stage to the other, the largest American and Israeli flags I have ever seen were draped side by side and by the end of the evening I imagined every star on the red-white-and blue had morphed into the Star of David.
Miami-Dade County Commissioner Joe Martinez pointed to the flags and exclaimed: “Isn’t that beautiful up there together? I get goose bumps! All nations have been created by an act of man, except Israel was created by an act of God.”
Rabbi Freedman delivered the Invocation, “We are all friends of the only democracy in the Middle East.”
I immediately recalled what American Israeli, Jeff Halper, the Founder and Coordinator of ICAHD/Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions told me during one of my journeys to Jerusalem:
“Israel is a not a democracy but is an Ethnocracy, meaning a country run and controlled by a national group with some democratic elements but set up with Jews in control and structured to keep them in control.”
Rabbi Freedman continued on, “From Mount Sinai to Mount Zion to Mount Vernon we are all Zionists! Israel is second to America in how many immigrants we have absorbed.”
Immigrant absorption in Israel comes with perks and is called Aliyah, [“go up”] and is a fundamental concept of Zionism enshrined in Israel’s Law of Return, which permits any Jew from any where in the world the legal right to government assisted immigration and settlement in Israel, automatic Israeli citizenship, unemployment benefits, free medical, and subsidized housing. Young adult immigrants receive free room, utilities, and three meals a day for the first five months and 100 percent of their tuition is paid by the government.
Hagee’s mastery of manipulating the fears of his audience garnered him a standing ovation as the shofars blew, “Israel was re-born by an act of God and Israel lives! The Jews have suffered great persecution and survived slavery and the Final Solution! God Jehovah will bury Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran! The flag of Israel will fly over the undivided Jerusalem and be the praise of all the earth! It’s 1938 again and the new Hitler is Ahmadinejad! Radical Islamisicts are threatening to develop nuclear weapons in order to destroy Israel and then the USA! But we are indivisible and we are both here forever!”
The oft repeated comment ascribed to President Ahmadinejad, that “Israel must be wiped off the map,” was addressed by Virginia Tilley, Professor of political science who wrote:
“In his October 2005 speech, Mr. Ahmadinejad never used the word “map” or the term “wiped off”. According to Farsi-language experts like Juan Cole and even right-wing services like MEMRI, what he actually said was “this regime that is occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”
“In this speech to an annual anti-Zionist conference, Mr. Ahmadinejad was being prophetic, not threatening. He was citing Imam Khomeini, who said this line in the 1980s (a period when Israel was actually selling arms to Iran, so apparently it was not viewed as so ghastly then). Mr. Ahmadinejad had just reminded his audience that the Shah’s regime, the Soviet Union, and Saddam Hussein had all seemed enormously powerful and immovable, yet the first two had vanished almost beyond recall and the third now languished in prison. So, too, the “occupying regime” in Jerusalem would someday be gone. His message was, in essence, “This too shall pass.”
Tikkun is Hebrew for mend, repair and transform the world. Tikkun is also an organization which researched and discovered that there are three distinct elements energizing the Christian Zionists:
1. A strong commitment to conservative and ultra-nationalist American politics (so strong, I believe, that if the U.S. were to decide to break with Israel, this part of the Christian Zionist leadership would go along with that and drop its defense of Israeli policies).
2. Dispensationalist religious commitments that lead many of the Christian Zionists to yearn for a cataclysmic “end of history” eschatological war in the Middle East that will precipitate the second coming of Jesus and the Rapture in which all true Christians will go to heaven and all Jews who have not yet converted to Christianity will burn in hell for eternity.
3. A widespread understanding among many Christians that atonement and repentance is needed for 1700 years of murder, rape, and oppression of Jews that was frequently generated by the Church (though, of course, the Evangelicals do not recognize that church as their church). In this category are many Christian Zionists who genuinely feel terrible about what has happened to the Jews and genuinely want to help the Jewish people. Their philo-Semitism is real and sincere. [Rabbi Lerner, Tikkun Magazine page 9, Nov/Dec. 2007]
But in Miami the other night, multitudes of misled and misinformed Christian’s celebrated military occupation, violence, power and control and ignored the gospel Jesus preached: “It is the peacemakers who shall be called the children of God.” –Matthew 5:9
Hagee repeatedly cited that all worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but neglected to mention that the first mention of Israel is in Genesis 32:22, when Jacob was renamed Israel for having wrestled and struggled with the Divine.
Hagee threw out the names of all the Hebrew prophets, but not the fact that God raised up prophets to speak truth to power and arrogance and to remind people of what God desires:
“What does God require? He has told you o’man!
Be just, be merciful, and walk humbly with your Lord.” -Micah 6:8
God also raised up prophets to remind them they cannot know the mind of the Mystery of the Universe, for “His thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord.”- Isaiah 55:8
God raised up prophets to admonish the “stiff necked people” [Exodus 34:9, Proverbs 29:1] and that “My people are fools, they do not know me! They are skilled in doing evil, they know not how to do good.”-Jeremiah 4:22
Hagee invoked the “Torah Way” but neglected what the Torah commands:
“From Moses to Jeremiah and Isaiah, the Prophets taught…that the Jewish claim on the land of Israel was totally contingent on the moral and spiritual life of the Jews who lived there, and that the land would, as the Torah tells us, ‘vomit you out’ if people did not live according to the highest moral vision of Torah. Over and over again, the Torah repeated its most frequently stated mitzvah [command]: When you enter your land, do not oppress the stranger; the other, the one who is an outsider of your society, the powerless one and then not only ‘you shall love your neighbor as yourself’ but also ‘you shall love the other.'” [Rabbi Lerner, TIKKUN Magazine, page 35, Sept./Oct. 2007 ]
PS: Rabbi Lerner is a Zionist— and THAT’S another story
Mondoweiss is not inherently anti-semitic, but most of the people who post under its articles certainly are.
Mondoweiss is basically a website run by Useful Idiots for Hamas.
Society benefits from the ruling elite. Just like American slaves benefitted from slavery and the American Indians benefitted from land theft and genocide.
TRUE Antisemitism is a prejudice against or hostility towards the Jewish people and it is rooted in fear that breed’s hatred and it must be denounced and confronted.
My Maternal grandfather was a German Jew who died before I could learn how many of our relatives may have been gassed or fried by the Third Reich. I speak up against anti-Semitism and to quicken the END of Israel’s Occupation of Palestine by honoring International Law and Equal Human Rights for ALL.
I have also traveled to both sides of Israel’s Wall in Palestine eight times since 2005, to learn and share from people who live there:
UNCENSORED video interview with Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu:
Jonathan Ben Artzi is a nephew to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He went to prison for 18 months because he refused to serve in the IDF stating: “Sometimes it takes a good friend to tell you when enough is enough. As they did with South Africa two decades ago, concerned citizens across the US can make a difference by encouraging Washington to get the message to Israel that this cannot continue. If Americans truly are our friends, they should shake us up and take away the keys, because right now we are driving drunk, and without this wake-up call, we will soon find ourselves in the ditch of an undemocratic, doomed state.”
Ariel Sharon once explained: “The terms ‘democracy’ or ‘democratic’ are totally absent from the Declaration of Independence. This is not an accident. The intention of Zionism was not to bring democracy, needless to say. It was solely motivated by the creation in Eretz-Isrel of a Jewish state belonging to all the Jewish people and to the Jewish people alone. This is why any Jew of the Diaspora has the right to immigrate to Israel and to become a citizen of Israel.– 28 May 1993 edition Yedioth Ahronoth
During one of my eight trips to Jerusalem since 2005, I attended a Dr. Ilan Pappe lecture and learned from the [now expatriate] Israeli historian and a current Professor at the University of Exeter in the United Kingdom:
“On March 10, 1948, eleven men had a meeting in the Red House headed by Ben Gurion. The eleven decided to expel one million Palestinians from historical Palestine. No minutes were taken, but many memoirs were written about that fateful meeting.
“A systematic ethnic cleansing of Palestine began and within seven months the Zionists managed to expel one half of all the Palestinian people from their villages and towns.
“The New York Times followed Israeli troops and reported the truth of the expulsion and separation of men and women, and of the many massacres. The world was well informed in 1948, but a year later not a trace was reported in the USA press or books. It was as if nothing ever happened. From March to October 1948 the USA State Department stated what was happening was a CRIME against humanity and ethnic cleansing.
“When ever one ethnic group expels another group they should be treated as War Criminals and the victims should be allowed to return. This is never mentioned in the USA about Palestine. Israel is so successful in their ethnic cleansing because the world doesn’t care! The ethnic cleansing continues via the apartheid policies of the Israeli government and because of the denial of the truth by the USA media.
“To claim Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East is bullshit! The Six Day War of 1967 escalated the ethnic cleansing and today in Jerusalem every Palestinian who fails to pay taxes, or has a minor infraction will loose their citizenship. In 1948 the mechanism of denial and ethnic cleansing as an IDEOLOGY, not a policy but a formula began. When Zionism began in the 19th century it was meant to be a safe haven for Jews and to help redefine Judaism as a national movement, not just a religion. Nothing wrong with either of those goals! But by the late 19th Century it was decided the only way these goals could be achieved was by ridding the indigenous population and it became an evil ideology.
“Israeli Jewish life will never be simple, good, or worth living while this ideology of domination, exclusiveness and superiority is allowed to continue. The mind set today is that unless Israel is an exclusive Jewish State, Palestinians will continue to be obstacles. However, there has always been a small vocal minority challenging this. The only thing that can save Palestinians is for the world to say ‘ENOUGH is ENOUGH!’ The way to challenge and change the ethnic cleansing is to pursue true democracy and the use of sanctions and divestment, for money talks.” – Excerpted from screenplay in progress “This American in Palestine” based on my 9 books:
I’m sure that is right on the economics, og, though I think Antidote is perceptive about Israel’s gathering new supporters and thereby compensating for a certain weakening (not to exaggerate that process)?of formerly cast iron suppprt among Jewish people in the United States.
“1000 prisoners-of-war executed….seems like a lot”
Here is what Brun actually said back in 1995 – see the link below.
According to Brun he saw five prisoners killed, and believed five others were also.
It should be obvious to anyone with half brain that Palestinians descend from Greco-Roman Judeans while European Jews descend from relatively recent converts to Rabbinic Judaism, which is quite unlike the Judaism of antiquity.
If anyone is stealing history, the thief is a white racist genocidal European settler colonist invader in Palestine.
@ DaBakr July 20, 2017, 5:42 pm
“Is there a BDS movement focusing on:
Are any of them falsely claiming goods made in and/or of resources illegally exploited from Occupied Territories ???
Such a law suite would get thrown out under anti-SLAPP rules.
Most Irish leaders support BDS and view it as free speech.
Wow! It must be great to live in such a country.
The BDS movement have been accused of changing its goals, my comment above reflects its first change, it has subsequently been changed again ..
“the BDS campaign has now decided to change its first goal once again. It now reads:
“Ending its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the Wall” (https://bdsmovement.net/what-is-bds)
The 2010 embarrassing reference to the 1967 Israeli occupation is now removed. However once you read the small letters, you grasp that BDS is more of a JVP (Jewish Voice for Peace) rather than a Palestinian voice. Though the goal does refer, once again, to Israeli “colonization of all Arab land,” the statement now makes it clear that it limits its demands to territories occupied in 1967:
“International law recognises the West Bank including East Jerusalem, Gaza, and the Syrian Golan Heights as occupied by Israel. As part of its military occupation, http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/bds-changed-its-goal-statement-once-again
I support the two state solution and the implementation of International law, so I can only go along with the goals change of BDS, but still think that BDS should be applied to the Israeli state as recognised in International law within the green line, until it complies with International Law.
jeff davis, (President of the Confederacy?)
What you’re doing is blaming the victim. You assume that the persecutions the Jews suffered over the centuries were somehow caused by their actions. And you repeat the tired theme of “Jewish money”, subversion and control. As a Jew yourself ,it looks like you’ve internalized the anti-Jewish stereotypes.
DaBakr: “No offense to your personal views but you might want to take a gander at some news outlets that are just a tiny bit to the right of the hard left(like MW).”
What’s “hard left” about Mondoweiss? Simply being neither racist nor fascist? No offense to your personal views.
GregMozart: “I support Israel. But as someone who cares about freedom of speech, religion, etc. I am definitely opposed to this law.”
I don’t support Israel as someone who cares about freedom of speech, religion, etc.
Mondoweiss comments policy specifically prohibits Anti-Semitism, and other forms of racism.
Yet Yonifalic, the Anti-Semitic meshumad and self-confessed war criminal, is tolerated by the moderators.
What’s the point of having a “comments policy”?
Israel isn’t doing this. It has no need to. Muslim Jihadists and their supporters in the West are making tens of millions in the West hate them, very effectively.
hophmi eptiomizes the Israeli permit system.
hophmi: “Lol. Pro-Arab intellectuals don’t get to comment on how “illiberal” Israel is.”
What about intellectuals that follow universal values? Are they allowed to comment if they get an Israeli permit?
Here is the change in the BDS movements goals…. In 2005, the BDS’s first goal demanded that Israel“End[ing] its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantl[ing] the Wall” (http://www.bdsmovement.net/call)
This represented a clear and brave challenge to the legitimacy of the Jewish State,
At some point BDS’s primary goal was changed significantly, it now reads: “Ending [its] occupation and colonization of all Arab lands occupied in June 1967 and dismantling the Wall.” (http://www.bdsmovement.net/bdsintro).
Who said that certain Jews would only violate the fundamental rights of Palestinians?
So, “self-hating Jew” is still a thing? :-)
The opposition, which Raghian estimates was less than half of the people present [at the June 14 meeting], was loud and vehement. Raghian and Julie Fain, Haymarket’s managing editor, tried to answer questions and explain Mondoweiss’s position and that anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism were not the same thing. ‘I’m Jewish and I’m also anti-Zionist,’ Fain told one of the protesters. The protester responded, ‘There’s a term for that: self-hating Jew.’
DaBakr: “Is there a BDS movement focusing on: …”
Was there a movement focusing on Apartheid South Africa?
GregMozart, you say Professor Norman Finkelstein, openly derides BDS since it goes against the international consensus and everything they’ve fought for. Professor Finkelstein supports BDS in relation to property and investments in Occupied Palestinian Territory [OPT] If it is the case that the Professor does not support BDS of the state of Israel within the green line because of some International consensus about the legitimacy of Israels existence, then in my opinion he would be wrong since the settlement enterprise and claims of Israeli sovereignty over the West Bank are claims made by the Israeli government on behalf of the Israeli state, therefore BDS should be applied to the instigators of the settlements and claims, at least until that government complies with International law. As far as I am aware the BDS movement simply want Israel to comply with International law, and officially do not have hard and fast views on one or two states. In fact BDS have been accused of changing its constitution some years ago to Israel leaving Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, in effect recognising Israel’s existance within the green line.
thanks for this link Brewer – lovely photography
RE: “Kill like an Israeli”
MY SNARKCASM: All of a sudden, I feel quite ill. May I please be excused?
” the Jews settle somewhere, become successful and prosperous, and all of society benefits.”
“all of society benefits.” Where is this magical place and why doesn’t anyone know about it?
RE: “Whatever you think of the free-speech issue (and I am a fierce liberal on that issue)” ~ Weiss
A GREAT QUOTE FROM BRANDEIS:
“Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and assembly. Men feared witches and burnt women. It is the function of speech to free men from the bondage of irrational fears.” ~ Justice Louis D. Brandeis’ concurring opinion in Whitney v. California (1927)
P.S. ■ GRAPHIC: iz Quotes
Plus Reality Winner, another patriotic person
DABAKER- “You should have taken a different tack. Your going to be dismissed outright as a toxic Zionist conspiracy spouting anti Jew.”
Well, you would say that wouldn’t you? I am touched by your concern for the effectiveness of my communication. I will give it all the consideration it is worth.
YONAH FREDMAN- “Keith- You and I both know that only love resides deep in your heart….”
Funny, I seem to recall you congratulating Hophmi for calling me a Jew-hating anti-Semite.
YONAH FREDMAN- “… your reference to Jewish Zionist power might give her the wrong impression, that you are a hate nut.”
No, it is you calling me a “hate nut,” albeit in a disingenuous manner. Who the hell do you think you are kidding anyway?
Perhaps a tunnel re-routing Israeli sewage into water off Israeli beach?
I feel like this is the equivalent of Congress passing a law requiring that everybody be a Christian. I mean, we have courts, right? So I have to believe that no court would uphold this law based on the 1st Amendment right of free speech. But, of course, devotion to Israel among our ruling classes continues to surprise, but the judges have lifelong tenure so I still see this as a laugher, more than something to be worried about.
Being unaware of Schiff’s voting record, it is shocking to find out he is one of the main co-sponsors of the bill. Another Israel firster.
What exactly makes it shocking or surprising? So you’re “shocked” just like the guy in Casablanca, eh, to suddenly and unexpectedly discover that a Democrat with official title is of course a Zionist, duh. You still aren’t even acknowledging that your Bernie is no different, even the only relatively honest Democrat in the last 30 years, i.e. Barbara Lee, joined in the Ziofest.
Of course it’s past time to boycott anything Zionist –and the obstacle to that are your “two” parties, period.
I think the question here is what constitutes “large”. The U.S. is such a large country that if 1% of Americans support BDS, that will be about 3 million people. Even if only .1% support BDS, that is still 300,000 people.
Instead of trying to fix the economy or end the wars, Congress is giving us this crap to deal with.
On a smaller scale if there is a scale for this kind of thing, it’s about as irrelevant as the difference between 2 million and 6 million.
Several of those countries are hit with sanctions imposed by the US govt.
Israel BDS is nothing compared to the harsh, often inhumane sanctions so frequently imposed on countries by US govt. officials. There is not one case of sanctions yielding the desired result, e.g., leadership change, policy change, etc.
American legislators must get up off their knees and reject this Israeli Exception to the First Amendment.
There was an article in the Forward today that quoted two of the bill’s supporters as saying that we have nothing to fear!
“Cardin and Portman argue that the ACLU and liberal activists are missing a key distinction in their bill. It does not, they argue, penalize American individuals and companies that chose to boycott Israel out of their own political beliefs, but only refers to those doing so in adherence to an international or foreign government boycott”
So if I am reading this right if you come to BDS completely on your own, with no “foreign” influence then you’re off the hook. But if you are taking your cue from the crazy Barghouti fellow, well prepare for the knock on your door in the middle of the night.
And how exactly will the authorities figure this out? I have sinking feeling that they will arrest first and ask questions later.
Terrorism is motivated by politics, not religion.
Gullible, incurious Americans respond predictably to a Good v. Evil/Muslims v. The West narrative.
No matter how dishonourable and disingenuous, the US consistently plays the victim card.
If BDS has so little support why is Israel spending tens of millions of dollars to stop it? You need to convince Netanyahu not us.
Nobody is talking about Findland except you. The references to offensive caricatures made in the preceding chain of comments are towards the cartoons published by a large Danish newpaper and the Charlie Hebdo magazine company. Both of which attracted immense level of media attention and provoked violent responses from a small minority of Muslims globally. I say small minority because Western media reports of such offenses were so overblown in the transparent motive of showing Muslims conform to their stereotypes.
I find it bizarre a Media Student like yourself can be so oblivious to the subject matter at hand while taking part in a dialectic on it.
and Richard Haass the Velvet Glove Kahanist, like Hillary
Kahanism is a crime against humanity – Kahanist Apartheid is a crime against humanity
Zionism as practiced by it’s Israeli enthusiasts is Apartheid, Kahanist Apartheid
When Zionism as practiced by it’s Israeli enthusiansts is Kahanism, Zionism is a crime against humanity.
Apartheid is a crime against humanity, per the UN, Geneva, all international law – so is Zionist or Kahanist Apartheid
‘One Big Bag of Israeli/Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby/Neocon/Hillary’s Boys and Girls Kahanists…including Chuck. Including Hillary’
Including Hillary, David Brooks, Tom Friedman, Mort Klein, Adelson, Bennett, Smotrich, Bibi, Bannon, Sarah Palin, Lindsey Graham, Trump, Dennis Ross, Dershowitz and the REST of the Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby
Kahanists are now successfully split and fighting each other – the strategic victory
‘No Wall, No Ban, No Wxr with Iran’ – pass the word
Vote the Successful 2nd American Revolution Party
Lets put Tulsi Gabbard on our ticket – – perhaps even for President!
No more Israeli and Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby Clean Break Plans
We got them all – ‘One Big Bag of Kahanists’
Courage is Contagious
The mic incident, while interesting, was not a accidental hot mic accident in my opinion. Preplanned for a Nutty speech. This was a speech for his base as well as ordinary citizens of the EU.
Israel does produce a number of innovations but the reality is nothing it produces is not easily replaceable when not already produced elsewhere. It’s pharma industry is largely knock off drugs (one patent last time I looked 3-4 years ago), it’s irrigation industry largely comprised of US held patents and it’s microchip industry are branch industries of multinationals. North Vietnam has a level 4 fab as does Israel. The leading technology innovator in water desalinization is actually California. You can’t knock their contributions but they are not even remotely indispensible in the world economy. There wouldn’t be much of a hiccup if there was a 100% boycott and sanction regime in place.
I must add, that I’ve done Media Studies at the University and if I was writing my thesis there at the moment, this would have been a really good subject to study deeper. Who knows, maybe I’ll do it someday in the future.. :)
tell me: is this fake news?
The Windy City is mighty pretty, but they ain’t got what we got, no sirree.
Still, let us hope that the civic virtue that used to provide fountains to squirt you will also extend to allowing the sale to go through.
You should have taken a different tack. Your going to be dismissed outright as a toxic Zionist conspiracy spouting anti Jew. The love for Israel among the population of US Christian and Catholics is stronger then the progressive+some libertarian fringe.
On the other hand, the bill, without my reading it and based on greenwalds often hysterical analysis sounds to be competent overreaching and normally I would assume it was some bizarre rider placed inside a trade bill. Seriously doubt all the Zionist hating lefties will feel anything from any branch of govt law enforcement even if this bill were to pass.
There is a better chance of Roger Waters being banned from long island
Yes, I am sure f.ex. in Germany anti-Jewish cartoons might be difficult to get published. But in Finland, I’d say there is no “special treatment” for the Jews compared to the Muslims. We have had our small Jewish and Muslim minorities from the 1900th century and they have been treated the same way from the beginning. And now in this time of “the big wave of the refugees”, it is not about the religon, but rather cultural differencies that might cause some big discussions and conflicts between people. And if I think about our rasist nationalists, a black Christian guy from Angola won’t get any better treatment than a Muslim from Irak.. I’d say it is almost opposite.. And a white Muslim from Tshetshenia, might even be wellcomed by them. (For some reason most of our nationalists admire Putin and Russia.. Rather white people from the East than coloured people from the South.) And these things will be seen in the cartoons too. So I think in here cartoons about Judaism are not “banned” any more than cartoons about Islam or Christianity. But it is clear f.ex. in Germany, because of their history, it might be too difficult issue to handle. (I have no idea what kind of cartoons they publish about Muslims or Christians either, so I am only assuming, no real knowledge on the issue..)
Anyway, complicated matters.. But at least after this discussion, I am going to pay more attention to it here. I kind of got interested in the subject now :)
Oh, what what aboutRE . What difference does it make to the US Congress?
“The actual number of prisoners executed at El Arish in 1967 appears to be about 1000, including Egyptian pilots to ensure the complete destruction of the Egyptian Air Force”
1000 prisoners-of-war executed, (and pilots executed just for being pilots) seems like a lot, but it’s not 7000, which is seven times as much.
“I have been so proud to mostly remember it, ”
Well deserved pride.
“but can’t be perfect can I.. ??”
Why not? Somebody should be, and I’m too old for it.
“You’ll just have to get used to those nasty IDF checkpoints on the Beltway…”
Isn’t it nice how “nasty IDF checkpoints” is a meme almost universally understood?
I always win anyway, Kaisa, even though I can’t answer the sports questions. The only person in my circles who could, on rare occasions, beat me was my brother, and he’s dead now.
“Well, whaddaya know: Bont Eastlake holds an opinion on how OTHER people should react to something.,
But, eljay, Bont has a special insight into these matters, an insight that is denied us mere random white guys. (And I think I’m more random than you are.)
” For five-thousand years the Jews have…/…and start the cycle yet again.”
“jeff_davis” (with an underscore), that’s just how it’s been, for the last 5.000 years.
I guess we just can’t help ourselves.
False accusations of anti-Semitism are either slander (spoken) or libel (written). I would love to see some victims of these defamation attacks sue in a big, noisy court case and crush this character assassination tactic, and the criminals behind it.
Well, it seems Israel has ordered it’s subservient American servants to tighten the screws, free speech and freedom when it comes to Israel, will be a thing of the past. We are not the world’s greatest democracy anymore. That image is now a joke.
Being unaware of Schiff’s voting record, it is shocking to find out he is one of the main co-sponsors of the bill. Another Israel firster.
Maybe it is time all products made in Israel should be boycotted worldwide.
As I have said before, offensive cartoons about Jews exist…just a general statement acknowledging the basic truth.
However, most publishers with a significant platform to reach a large set of global audiences never mock Jews in the same way they mock Muslims. Charlie Hebdo drew Muhammad as a modern terrorist for example. Have they ever drew Jewish prophets as fascist IDF soldiers? No, because I really tried looking for such drawings and couldnt find any. Same with the Danish cartoonists.
And when people are outraged at the offensive cartoons, they defend themselves the sameway El Jay and others do here. Freedom of speech and they mock all religion, why Muslims so sensitive etc. However, from their avoidance of mocking Jews, we can clearly see they are just opportunistic racists and Islamophobes who are not even brave enough to own up to it.
Excellent letter – polite and forthright.
It seems to me not credible that members of Congress are still ignorant of the truth about Israel. So they’re all thinking, “Why should I stand up and get my political head chopped off by AIPAC?” What if the soldiers in George Washington’s army had been that cowardly? Cantwell and others’ willingness to crush freedom of speech is a disgrace. We need to find them a way out that saves face. Perhaps they could all issue statements that said something like, “I’m shocked! shocked! to find ethnic cleansing going on in Israel!”
“[Schiff] knows Russia about as well as he knew Iraq and Libya.”
Schiff is another Israeli puppet pushing for more profitable wars.
“Netanyahu Pushes Trump Toward Wider Wars”
I support Israel. But as someone who cares about freedom of speech, religion, etc. I am definitely opposed to this law. People should be able to express their *peaceful* political opinions in the United States and other free countries.
BDS hardly warrants a law against it. It’s not the Nazis. If BDS has some ideas, let them rise and fall on their own merits. Many Jewish activists who fought for decades for the idea of a two state solution, including Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein, openly deride BDS since it goes against the international consensus and everything they’ve fought for. But no matter. The two state solution has clearly not worked for the people on the ground. The BDS has some ideas, they have freedom of speech like everyone else. Frankly I have seen BDS make a splash several years ago and now it’s pretty much died down. I don’t see much BDS stuff going on in New York, despite trying to find and attend one of their events to see what they’re about. So, a law criminalizing it? I bet this will be found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court pretty fast.
Excellent post in every respect. Thank you.
Geez, if a couple kids open up a lemonade stand, they better not serve their drinks in a paper cup with Palestine colors.