Yet another sign of Israel’s fear of nonviolent activism and journalism: The two leaders of a Christian Peacemaker Team to Israel/Palestine were deported by Israel 3 weeks ago following an interrogation. On Earth Peace reports that the two were repeatedly asked, "What’s the purpose of your trip to Israel?" And it says that the purpose was to acquaint team-members with the realities of the "nonviolent movement" for Palestinian human rights. CPT delayed this report till all members of the team had finished their tour. From CPT’s report:
On the weekend of 2-3 January, Israeli security officials denied entry to Bob Gross, executive director of On Earth Peace, and Alice Bartlett [pseudonym; she seeks to return] after holding and questioning them for more than twelve hours. The two had come into Israel four days before a CPT delegation they were scheduled to lead arrived, in order to set up appointments and make further plans for the delegation’s twelve days in Palestine and Israel.
After locking up Gross and Bartlett in Ben Gurion’s airport jail for the night, the Israeli authorities deported the two to the United States and barred them from entering Palestine or Israel again for ten years. The remaining thirteen delegates arrived safely in Jerusalem on Wednesday, 6 January 2010. A member of the At-Tuwani team took over leadership of the delegation for the next twelve days.
From his home North Manchester, Indiana, Bob Gross reflected on the interrogation and deportation experience.
"During our time being held with Israeli security, we saw many other people coming under additional questioning as well. Almost all those pulled aside were people of color. Most were of Arab and African descent. We’re clear that Alice’s Egyptian heritage as well as her photographic documentation of Palestine via the internet were motivating factors in their decision to deport us. In addition to this racism, there is also the Israeli government’s fear of anything that seems to value Palestinian equality or human rights, which means that those of us who are committed to nonviolent peacemaking are considered a threat."
This fifth annual Middle East delegation co-sponsored by On Earth Peace and Christian Peacemaker Teams is, according to the delegation’s blog,
an immersion in the realities of the current moment in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. What are those realities? A nonviolent movement is on the rise, again; this week, over a thousand international activists attempted to enter into Gaza from Egypt, bearing humanitarian and medical aid. A separation wall continues to be built by Israel, dividing Palestinian families and communities and taking Palestinian land. Israelis live in fear of suicide bombers. Many Palestinians who live under blockade and military occupation continue eking out daily life without access to safe water, medical care, or basic foods. Some Israelis and Palestinians who are weary of decades of bloody conflict are creating nonviolent pathways to resolving the situation.
In the last year, the Israeli government has made entering Palestine and Israel increasingly difficult for internationals. Two full-time CPTers from the At-Tuwani team were denied entry this autumn.
From Amira Hass: link to haaretz.com
This is part of a policy designed to cut off the occupied territories from the rest of the world. No aid, no witnesses.
So what do we learn from this?
We learn that Israel is barring people from “entering Palestine” for ten years. From which we can conclude that Israel is planning to control the borders of Palestine for at least ten years, deciding who can enter and who can not. Yet they are pushing for negotiations to establish a “Palestinian state.”
Now we see how such a “state” will be controlled entirely by Israel, when the WB becomes another Gaza or collection of Gazas.
From Ha’aretz:
In short, the “Palestinian State” is not a state. The IDF will be free to roam Palestine wherever it pleases, murdering at will, exactly as it does now.
Another lie by Amira.
Her best lie was that there was a big massacre in Jenin in 2002.
Let me put what she said
link to ccmep.org
‘What kind of war is this?’
AMIRA HASS
Haaretz, April 2002
It is still impossible to know how many people are buried under the ruins in the Jenin refugee camp, where the smell of decomposing bodies mingles with the stench of garbage and the scent of geraniums and mint.
Lies Lies Lies and more Lies by Amira.
There was no decomposing bodies. This was all Pallywood lies.
Amira again caught lying as she did when she was sued for her lies in Hebron
CPT is undoubtedly lying, too, right?
Let’s see, the Times also reports what Amira says. link to timesonline.co.uk
What shall we believe? That the Times also is lying?
Or that the spammer called “Baruch Rosen” is lying?
Frimet Roth who lost her daughter in the Sbarros massacre in 2001.
Read what she wrote about Gideon and Amira.
She hits it right on the head
link to web.israelinsider.com
Gideon Levy, who writes for Israel`s pre-eminent daily, Haaretz, fancies himself a champion of the weak and vulnerable. The day after my child`s cold-blooded murder by a Hamas bomber, Levy wrote the following in his weekly piece detailing Palestinian suffering:
“These children, every child in the world should have protection as though he were a VIP. Every child in the world is a VIP”
Levy did not mention the seven Jewish children whose graves were dug that day because he did not mean those children. He never does.
Levy`s colleague, Amira Hass, the only Israeli journalist who lives in a Palestinian town, Ramallah, was equally indifferent to my child`s murder. The first piece she published in Haaretz after the Sbarro massacre made no mention of the fifteen victims. Instead, it was an emotive tirade about the Palestinian right of return, reminding her readers of two major Jewish settlements close to Jerusalemthat she fears “won`t be evacuated”: the city of Maaleh Adumim and the Jerusalem satellite community of Givat Ze`ev.
Murdered Jewish children do not move Hass either.
Why doesn’t Amira decry the murder of innocent Israeli children and adults by Palestinian Homicide bombers.
The murder of Israeli’s observing Passover, in restaurants, hotels, disco’s and the hell the surviving victims of these acts of Palestinian terror face for the rest of there lives.
link to shtull-trauring.org
Here is an article Amira wrote right after Israel killed Yassin in 2004.
This after Yassin ordered thousands of terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians.
Amira says, but really this time, the targeted assassination will bring us closer to a respite and to Palestinian surrender.
Amira believes Israel should not target Palestinian mass murderers who order Israeli civilians to be blown up on buses, shopping centers, disco’s, pizzerias, hotels and anywhere else Arabs can massacre Israeli civilians.
Amira believes Arabs have the right to slaughter Jews and any Israeli who targets these Arabs who order civilians to be murdered will lead to the Arabs surrender.
If this doesn’t show you what a wacked out radical this Amira Hamas is, nothing will.
Is it any wonder why her articles are on Neo Nazis sites and Holocaust Denying sites.
Just to let Amira Hamas know, terrorism is down 90% since Yassin was killed.
It proves how your policy of surrender to Arab terrorists was dead wrong.
A list of terrorist attacks Yassin ordered.
Amira is upset this Nazi cant order massacres of innocent civilians anymore.
link to beyondimages.info
No32A bus, mainly carrying Israeli school children, Patt junction, Jerusalem
19 dead, 70 injured Sbarro Pizzeria, Jerusalem
15 dead, 130 injured Snooker club, Rishon Letzion
15 dead, 55 injured Student cafeteria, Hebrew University , Jerusalem
10 dead, 85 injured Park Hotel Passover meal, Netanya
30 dead, 140 injured Teenagers on pedestrian precinct, Jerusalem
11 dead, 180 injured No2 bus carrying Jewish worshippers back from the Western wall
23 dead, 130 injured Shopping precinct, central Jerusalem (triple suicide bombing)
23 dead, 150 injured Moment café, Jerusalem
11 dead, 54 injured Shopping centre, Netanya
5 dead, 100 injured Matza restaurant, Haifa
15 killed, 40 injured Dolphinarium discotheque, Tel Aviv
21 dead, 120 injured Port facilities, Ashdod
10 dead, 16 injured Petrol station, Ariel
3 dead, 20 injured Beachfront bar, Tel-Aviv
3 dead, 60 injured Hitchhiking post, Tzfirin
9 dead, 30 injured Café Hillel, Jerusalem
7 dead, 50 injured Suicide bombings of Israeli passenger buses Number 11 bus, Haifa – 16 dead Number 960 bus, Haifa – 11 dead Number 361 bus, Meron – 9 dead Number 4 bus, Tel-Aviv – 6 dead Number 20 bus, Jerusalem – 11 dead No 37 bus, Haifa – 17 dead No 6 bus, Jerusalem – 7 dead No 14A bus, Jerusalem – 17 dead No 18 bus, Jerusalem – 49 dead (the same bus route attacked on successive weeks) Two buses following each other in Beersheva – 16 dead
Multiply those numbers by a hundred and you’ll get the number of Palestinians civilians killed by Israeli 2 ton bombs, tanks, artillery, etc =P
So all the main media outlets in America are full of Hasbara but the Mondoweiss comment section is immune?
Oh well, it’ll be something to see, when Phil and Adam fix things up in Israel without making a single Jew angry. God forbid they should deny Baron Rosen access to the comment section.
I may stop commenting, but you can be sure I’ll be following Mondoweiss, closely. I’m very interested to see what happens when they are forced to conclude that nothing they do, or are capable of doing will have any effect on Israel and Zionism.
eh mooser, it’s par for the course. phil and andy’s blog is becoming such a vital resource the efforts of the hasbara teams have stepped up in proportion to how damaging this site is to their narrative. frankly i wish they would just be all banned but it doesn’t matter. nothing they say is going to keep people away from here. i check this site a few times a day for updates. i wonder how many hits this site gets every day. it must drive them nuts. to imagine their hasbara has much effect anymore is nonsense. its like the boy who cries wolf. they cried wold all thru the gaza massacre and only the fools believe them anymore.
Thanks, Annie! I was getting discouraged. Phil has stated, more than once, that he has neither the time nor inclination to police the comments section, and I’m not going to say he should be home playing nurse-maid to Baron Rosen’s infantile intellect instead of going to Gaza.
And let me make this very plain: If, and when, Phil decides that nothing except force will change the Israelis, and he is not going to be the one to apply this force, it will be Israel’s loss. I am not trying to taunt him for giving up.
And there’s one thing I know from way back: There’s no more fervrent, right-wing, bash-the-palestinians, Zionist than an American (or other Western Jews) who isn’t there. Israel is not a country to them, it’s an extension of their fragile ego.
It’s a waste of time to respond to them. They aren’t defending Zionism or Israel, just their own egos.
Cecelie Surasky said that the smartest thing she did was close the comments at Muzzlewatch.
While it’s true that the trolling is a measure of the site’s success, eventually it will drive people away from the comments. So be it, the real value of the site is in the original posts.
BR works fast with his cut-and-paste from Hasbara For Dummies.
Of course, if we were to list the names of all the Palestinians who have died at the hands of the Israeli conquerors, it would take a lot more scrolling. But BR is only concerned about the deaths of Jews.
Hey, potsherd, it’s all part of the “battle of ideas in the Middle East”.
Baruch Rosen showing what fools these left wing Jews are!
This is why they dont like me.
I post facts something that obviously you dont want to know about.
“Baruch Rosen” is undoubtedly a Zionist consortium here on a mission to post as much hasbara as possible with simultaneous time stamps.
“what fools these left wing Jews are!”
Ah, I see, Baron Rosen! You think right-wing regimes have traditionally been kinder to Jews? I know, I know, Hitler was a Socialist, it says so right in the title of his party!
Gosh, and I always thought Israel was the darling of the left-wing, what with the socialist kibbutzes and the Hidrustat and the rest. Would you call a country which tries to coerce girls into Jews-only dating habits “right-wing”? Sounds very Communistic to me.
No one deals with right wing trolls better than you Mooser.
James Bradley January 20, 2010 at 1:56 pm
No one deals with right wing trolls better than you Mooser.
you guys are pathetic…
enjoy your insular self congratulating little world. you guys are the kings of the internet.
i am content for every legitimate point i have brought up has never been touched, i just get ganged up on by the internet tough guys who spit the same talking points and refuse to recognize facts
This coming from the guy who posted a hoax letter attributed to MLK ?
James, you haven’t noticed all the polls and studies showing that Israel’s hasbara is sweeping the world, and leading to unprecedented support and an outpouring of sympathy for Israel and Zionism? Or are you just refusing to see????
Oh, Baron, if you are going to cut-n-paste, please learn to use quote-marks, italics and blockquote. Otherwise, one might think you were trying to pass of quoted material as your own, without attribution. And that would reflect badly on Zionism, and by extension, all Jews. Well, not the “left-wing” Jews, of course, there’s no hope for them, they might as well get baptised.
You have brought up a legitimate point? I must have missed it.
Baruch Rosen floods the site with irrelevant chatter, and flatters himself that we are awed and amazed by his inane cut ‘n paste ramblings.
But worst of all …
Baruch Rosen refers to himself in the third person.
WOW! big news go figure…whodathunkit? a couple of people whose agenda is subversive to a particular country’s government are deported. what a conspiracy!!
try marching with the NLD against the Junta…why not?
these “confrontations” to show how “oppressive” the Israeli government is, are laughable.
the real einstein developed a method to eradicate whole cities of their populations in milliseconds. so what?
how you logically arrived at “breathing while egyptian” is a crime from what was a totally imagined discriminatory act (and one that totally exposes the author’s own deeply racist world view) is beyond believable!
all riled up are you, peacenik? the demonstrations in Niilin are hardly “non-violent”! your country may give you the right to peacefully demonstrate but that doesn’t mean another country has to let you in so you can protest. which was my point (that was obviously lost on your 10 year old brain)
I assume you are an american, I’d like to see you non-violently demonstrate there. remember what happened in Pittsburgh a couple of months ago or Seattle a couple of years ago. Your own country doesn’t grant you the right, why do you feel you are entitled to it in a foreign country?
it seems that you commentators are the one’s with entitlement issues.
like i said, let’s see foreigners
“the real einstein developed a method to eradicate whole cities of their populations in milliseconds. so what?”
You’ve got a real grasp of Einstein’s accomplishments in physics, don’t you?
At any rate, you’ve given us a good idea of what Zionists consider an achievement.
mooser once again you have picked a meaningless point to argue and you have won it sucessfully, i am sure that your cronies will soon rub that incredible win in my face
There’s no need to, you continue to embarrass yourself non stop by posting here.
I’ll say one thing James, I’ve never seen a drug that loosens inhibitions like ziocaine! They just vomit their souls into the comment box.
I do have to admit I derive a certain amount of satisfaction from trying to picture what those American Jews, who have only a slight knowledge of or sentimental attachment to Zionism, will think of Baron Munchrosen and the rest.
These people came to Palestine to help the Palestinians non-violently resist a brutal military occupation.
They didnt come to teach Palestinians how to build pipe bombs or fire bottle rockets.
Isint that what you Israeli supporters want? Peaceful Palestinians? Or is the prospect of a non violent resistance that horrifying to you? The prospect of *GASP* having to live in peace with Palestinians so terrifying? Or is the prospect of having to live as equals with Palestinians even more petrifying? Which is it buddy =P
Also notice this: It’s not actions which are “subversive”, but her “agenda”.
That is, what is a crime can be determined, at the moment, by the needs of the State. Witty of course, agrees wholeheartedly with this.
Now, I have never ever done this before, but I’m gonna do it now: That is exactly the legal theory embraced by the National Socialists in 1930′s Germany.
neither bradley…
the fact is that it doesn’t matter who they are here to “help”.
all countries have laws that control the activity of tourists and immigrants at their borders.
So they do, Onestone, but in this case Israel is controlling the activity of Palestine’s borders.
Not to mention the quaint principle called Freedom of the Press, which Israel is clearly trying to quash. Why does Israel fear the truth?
The CPT annoy the Israelis on a number of levels. They are witnesses, they physically try to protect and help Palestinians, and they teach Palestinians non-violent resistance to injustice. These are dangerous and subversive actions that Israel cannot and will not tolerate. The crackdown is obviously in full swing.
oh please, Shmuel, these are foreign instigators that are neither interested in peace and nonviolence nor the lives of the palestinians. they are cowards cause they don’t protest or demonstrate in their own countries, but have the guts to critzise the Israeli governement because the Israelis wont do diddley
Have you ever met any? Seen them in action in the OT? I have. They do great work. Anyone who calls them “foreign instigators” hasn’t got a clue, or is a dishonest troll. Take your pick.