Marian Houk reports that the Israelis searched the al-Jilani house in recent days, following the killing at a checkpoint Friday night of Ziad al-Jilani, a 40-year-old Palestinian father of three. And regarding his widow, an American, Moira al-Jilani (who is shown above right with her late husband and their youngest daughter, Yameen):
Israeli police investigators Monday summoned for questioning the widow and three young daughters of the Palestinian man killed last Friday by Israeli Border Police at a “flying checkpoint” they had set up in Wadi Joz.
Frightened and distraught, the bereaved family instead went to the American Consulate in East Jerusalem, where they were told they must cooperate with the investigation — but advised to do it with legal assistance.
Another friend tells us that Moira's laptop has been confiscated.
Reminds one of the fbi or gestapo.
israel circa 2010
disgusting … our Consulate won’t even help these victims of israel state murder … shameful
Our ambassador should get them protection and escort out of that hell-hole a.s.a.p. – the zio-murderers do like to cover-up their crimes
Jonathan Morse (Univ. of Hawaii, and “H-net-anti-Semitism)) says Israel should just snatch the anti-Semite, tie her up, and shoot her in the back.
Israel is a shining light unto other nations. This proves it.
Zionists often say they would refuse 1 State because they don’t want to mix w/ the jihadis. Look at how Israel has always been towards the Arab world and the Palestinians. They are Jihadis. Palestinians live under a police state and oppression, and have endured it for decades.
Zionists are cowards.
What is Moira’s home state? We should contact her U.S. Senator and U.S. House Representative ASAP.
And if it’s New York?
“And if it’s New York?”
(shudders)
hayat ya hayat ya hayatee… I just wanted to say it :-)
Moira lived in Texas for her primary through high school and it is here that her & Ziad met.
I love you Jilani family: I love you in Jerusalem and I love in Texas.
This is from the State Dept travel advisory to Israel….
The IDF continues to carry out security operations in the West Bank. Israeli security operations can occur at any time, including arrest raids to arrest terrorist suspects that lead to disturbances and violence. Americans can be caught in the middle of potentially dangerous situations. Some Americans involved in demonstrations and other such activities in the West Bank have become involved in confrontations with Israeli settlers and the IDF. The State Department recommends that Americans, for their own safety, avoid demonstrations.
All those who pass through the West Bank should exercise particular care when approaching and transiting Israeli military checkpoints. Travelers should be aware that they might encounter delays and difficulties, and might even be denied passage through a checkpoint. “American citizens should be aware that the ability of consular staff to offer timely assistance to U.S. citizens in the West Bank is limited”.
link to travel.state.gov
And above is only a short segment from the website above.
It was even worse some yrs ago when I was planning a trip. In reality, the USA embassy or the our elected officials are not of much help.
Does the U.S. State Department consider East Jerusalem part of the West Bank? If it does not, that security advisory would not apply to it.
And WHY is the ability of consular staff to offer timely assistance to US citizens limited?
Because they have to spend most of their time sucking and swallowing.
Correct, RoHa.
Both Israel and the US have to do the bidding of BP.
These days military empires run on oil, and they need the oil to wage the wars to get the oil to wage the wars to get the oil to wage the wars to get the oil, etc., etc. It’s an endless loop from which neither Israel nor the US can escape.
Israel and the US have already committed to getting Iran back for BP, so they’re going to need even more oil than they’re currently using to fuel their overt and proxy resource wars in Asia and Africa. The final steps have already been taken, disseminating propaganda that Iran wants or is hiding WMDs and forcing a resolution through the UN.
That’s why Obama can posture, but he can’t really crack down on BP for the Gulf of Mexico oil catastrophe, because in fighting the AfPak war for the oil pipeline halfway around the world, Obama needs oil to supply the troops, and when Afghanistan repels the invaders as it has always done, he will need oil to evacuate the troops.
BP, the wealthiest corporation in the world, calls the shots, and the US and Israel follow orders.
U.S. embassies have always been useless. An uncle of mine used to work on the F-16 fighter for overseas clients and he was told by his bosses and co-workers that if you’re ever in trouble, don’t bother running to the American embassy because they are pathetic -run to the British embassy instead.
As I mentioned above, it was only PART of the regular advisory and it gets updated.
The current update is dated May 31, 2010. you may want to check that out lysias
link to jerusalem.usconsulate.gov
Can we somehow assist in the USA? This is a travesty. We should start something, some support of this bereaved family. A website, seeking donations for a lawyer. What about getting the Christian Science Monitor involved? They seem to be highly progressive on reporting on the I/P situation. Let’s DO SOMETHING instead of wringing our hands.
Confiscating a Laptop.
Israel’s way of extracting another inch from a lie.
there is an update on on the source article, it appears there is confirmation they came in and took her laptop that they had shared together. what could be the purpose of this? ar they trying to dig up evidence he was against the occupation? are they going to now call hm a terrorist?
Aha you don’t get it. What they are looking for is evidence in the cache that a porn site was visited. Or even better, some pics of nekkid women. Once evidence like that turns up, then the NY Times can run with the story.
While I realize that was an attempt at sarcasm, given the subject matter I think it was extremely inappropriate.
I wouldn’t put it past them, though.
Actually, this may not be sarcasm. It is a normal technique for character assassination to “find” weird stuff on a computer and then either publish it or agree not to in exchange for silence.
character assassination to “find” weird stuff on a computer and then either publish it or agree not to in exchange for silence.
Very possible.
Under one of Israel’s definitions of the term, he was a terrorist: any victim of Israeli violence. In fact, they branded him a terrorist within moments of his death, as the first news reports include this accusation. My guess is that they stole his laptop in an effort to find evidence to show they were right. I don’t think they are really hopeful, but on the remote chance they can add to their posthumous smear of this man, they’ll investigate this possibility far more thoroughly than they will investigate the circumstances of his death. The killer does not even need a real investigation before his complete exoneration.
I expect that after the IDF examines the laptop belonging to the wife of Ziad al-Jilani, the IDF will announce that it found evidence that the husband (or wife) had”ties” to Hamas, the implication being the shooting was fully justified.
But in small or in-bred communities everyone has ties to someone else. It’s the six-degrees-of-separation principle. You can link anyone in the world to anyone else in the world by going through six other people. Or three people. Or sometimes in small communities only two people. It doesn’t mean anything other than that, in the course of going about their daily loves, lots of people rub shoulders.
She is being intimidated, squelched and there could very well be efforts to implicate the family on trumped up accusations, aimed at discrediting them.
If they have property in East Jerusalem, they are highly advised to remain there and hold onto it, lest Israel confiscate it under its absentee laws.
They might be expelled to Gaza.
Did they send her the bill for the bullets already?
“Frightened and distraught, the bereaved family instead went to the American Consulate in East Jerusalem, where they were told they must cooperate with the investigation — but advised to do it with legal assistance.”
What is the for this whorish useless appendage in Israel? They need to get their asses in gear or be fired on the spot from their positions. They act like the “representatives” in the USA when it comes to Israel.
Their first duty is to provide sanctuary and protection, what they provided here was cheap advice and a boot in the ass. What no direction to the Embassy? Incredible…
Maybe we should stop calling them “flying” checkpoints and start calling them “air strike” checkpoints. A lot of nice things can fly — birds, jetliners, origami swans, RC planes, time when it’s fun — and it doesn’t seem like the IDF can handle flying (or, really, any activity) without shooting something at someone.
Keep looking into this case, Phil.
Everytime I see the family pics, it just makes me sad and upset. It’s so disgusting how they get away with this OVER and over.
Amira Hass writes in Haaretz (Hebrew):
link to haaretz.co.il
The article opens with the headline :
The article goes on to state that Israeli authorities will decide in the next few days whether to launch an investigation.
HOWEVER
A Border Police spokesperson, Moshe Pintzi, did not address the questions posed by Haaretz. In his reply, the spokesperson wrote:
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In other words, anyone from East Jerusalem who happens to be behind the wheel of a vehicle during an auto accident is guilty by default.
The British government has finally acknowledged that 14 people killed in 1972 by the British Army in Northern Ireland were innocent.
Imagine how far Israeli society has to travel to get to the point that the UK is at today.
They haven’t even started. Israel is still killing innocent Palestinians and calling them terrorists.
Watch the video
link to guardian.co.uk
hayate, your post says.
Reminds one of the fbi or gestapo.
Um, dont you think your going over the top.
To compare the FBI with the Gestapo is insane?
No, it isn’t.
Two relevant books are Agents of Repression by Ward Churchill and Secret Agenda by Linda Hunt.
Although Hoover’s FBI was originally opposed to Nazis, he later changed his mind and assisted in the various operations like Paperclip that brought approximately 1,600 Nazi war criminals to the U.S. by falsifying or covering up the records of their war crimes.
If you haven’t noticed, the Obama administration has also renounced the Nuremberg Principles and adopted the Eichmann defense, saying that those who commit crimes against humanity because they were only following orders, should not be prosecuted. This is only natural, as the orders they are following today are his own.
I doubt Israel will ever admit wrongdoing or self-criticize in any meaningful sense.
I think it’s because of how close-knit the Zionist Jewish community is. They don’t have to answer to non-Jews. The humanity of non-Jews is nonexistent (unless favorably/tactically framed through a Jewish lens – example: Darfur or Haiti).
There is no universalism. It’s hive-mind.
BTW this was in the WPost:
link to usatoday.com
These people all cut and paste from the same book of lies.
“Where is Congress?”….fee teezee!
Sorry for the crudeness.
The American Consulate in Jerusalem has proved useless in the al-Jilani family’s case, and took almost two weeks to offer any assistance to Emily Henochowitz, who had an eye put out by an IDF goon.
Many of the commenters here are US citizens, and may wish to make their own feelings known to:
U.S. Consulate General, Jerusalem
P.O. Box 290, Jerusalem 91002
18 Agron Road
Jerusalem 94190
Tel.: +972.2.622.7230
Fax: +972.2.625.9270
E-mail (NOT for visa matters please): UsConGenJerusalem@state.gov
Consul General
Daniel Rubinstein
link to jerusalem.usconsulate.gov
(No suggestions, please, that this gentleman may have any racially-induced bias against giving, promptly, all due assistance to US citizens in Israel, even if they may be considered ‘troublemakers’).
Please note that British participants in the Flotilla also complain of neglect by their consular authority, which is just as lax, for the same reasons.
(In my run-in with Filipino police in Cebu, I had exceptionally good help from the British Consul there, but this was done entirely on a personal basis by the formidable lady who represents my country there).
Bloody Sunday
It has taken 38 years for a full enquiry into the events in Derry on 30 January 1972, when the 1st Battalion of the Parachute Regiment of the British Army ran amok and killed 26 unarmed protestors. It was not just a case of firing into a crowd; the Paras actually chased their victims into surrounding areas.
link to guardian.co.uk
“Lord Saville had pronounced his verdict: the dead and the injured were all innocent, the soldiers had done them a terrible wrong, and a foul crime had been committed on the streets of Derry, 38 years before.
Minutes later, in perhaps the most hauntingly memorable of all of Britain’s post-imperial moments, the prime minister got to his feet in the Commons and publicly apologised for what his country’s soldiers had done, all those years ago. It was impossible to defend the indefensible, he said.”
link to guardian.co.uk
I wonder if Israel and the US will have finally got to an answer on their ‘special relationship’ after another 38 years.
It’s already been 43 years since the attack on the USS Liberty.
Where is congress?
Why, giving ever more financial aid to Israel.
For example, in the face of a $50 million budget shortfall, Kansas City is being forced to close 26 of its 61 public schools at the end of this school year. Yet, while unable to provide adequate education for it’s children, Kansas City residents will contributes more than $78 million in taxpayer dollars for military aid to Israel.
And signing letters written by AIPAC declaring that Israel can do no wrong.
There is nothing to worry about in Ziad’s computer. But it srossed our mind that they could twist things but we all know there is nothing to worry about. Just because Moira is a U.S. Citizen they actually were nice enough to give her a receipt so she can claim it back because for Palestinians in Israel once something is confescated it never comes back.
The consolate said they can only protect Moira and the kids from harm and they cannot assist in the investigation or stop anybody from seraching the house. They did say they are limited with what they can do. Moira does not live in the west bank but in a suburb in Jerusalem. Moira was offered to get out of there with the girls but she refused to leave before she gets justice for her husband. Regardless of how bad the situation is back home the girls are in a loving family invironment and Moira does not want to strip them from that especially after loosing their dad. I have to say if Moira was not American Ziad would have been forgotten about.
Moira’s sister and I in the U.S. are trying to get somebody from Congress to respond to our calls and e-mails to help us in getting a proper investigation and justice. I am still waiting……
They will find something to worry about in the computer, or if not, they will put it there.