Open letter to Gaddafi supporter Cynthia McKinney from disappointed Palestinians

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Palestinians in Bil’in, West Bank protesting in support of the Libyan opposition movement

Dearest Cynthia McKinney,

Two years ago, you spoke out against Israel’s human rights abuses in Palestine. You were even put in an Israeli prison after your attempts to help deliver medical supplies and humanitarian aid on a ship to Gaza in 2009. For your sacrifices, you gained respect from many Palestinians all over the world.

However, we can’t help but be irked by your recent stance on Libya. It’s fine to be against NATO intervention in Libya. You’re entitled to your own opinion. But to praise Libyan dictator Muammer Gaddafi is completely unacceptable. Anti-intervention shouldn’t equate to whitewashing Gaddafi’s crimes.

Last month, you appeared on Libya State TV, a propaganda organ of the Gaddafi regime. In an interview, you said that the “last thing we need to do is spend money on death, destruction and war… I want to say categorically and very clearly that these policies of war…are not what the people of the United States stand for and it’s not what African-Americans stand for.”

Maybe you could have garnered some legitimacy with that statement if you weren’t speaking on a station run by Gaddafi. Or even better, if you at least offered some recognition that Gaddafi is guilty of perpetrating “death, destruction and war” on his own people.

In the interview, you also claimed you were in Libya on a “fact-finding mission” to “understand the truth.” But Ms. McKinney, you were only in Tripoli, a city under Gaddafi’s control. If you were really on a trip to Libya to see the truth for yourself, why didn’t you go to Benghazi and speak to the opposition movement as well?

Not only that, you praise Gaddafi in the interview, asserting that his Green Book advocates “direct democracy.” You also declare on your Facebook page that Gaddafi was “democratically elected.” Umm, you obviously haven’t met any Libyans before your trip to Tripoli. If you did, you’d know how the majority of Libyans feel about him. And if anything, someone ruling over a country for 42 years should be a hint that they aren’t democratically elected. Claiming that Libyans wanted Gaddafi as a leader is like saying Palestinians asked for Israel to occupy them. It just doesn’t make sense.

Now, you’re on a nationwide speaking tour, Eyewitness Libya: Cynthia McKinney reports back on the Massive Bombing of Tripoli. Also speaking on the tour will be Akbar Muhammad of the Nation of Islam, former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark and Brian Becker, National Coordinator of the ANSWER Coalition.

First of all, why aren’t there any Libyans speaking on this tour? Secondly, Nation of Islam? Really? The Nation of Islam has defended Gaddafi since the beginning of the Libyan pro-democracy protests in February. Of course, this is probably because the Libyan government has given the Nation millions of dollars over the years.

Not only are Libyans not invited to speak on your tour about Libya, but in Los Angeles, Libyans have been denied entry into the event itself.

Ms. McKinney, this is truly a disappointment. You support the Palestinians, but you are not supporting the Libyan people in their fight for freedom and dignity. What exactly is your motive? A charitable explanation is that you are just completely naïve to Gaddafi’s atrocities. Another reason is that you might support Gaddafi for ideological reasons, like Chavez or Castro. Or, worst case scenario, you could just be another tool on Gaddafi’s payroll. Whatever the case may be, we are extremely disheartened.

The Palestinian and Libyan peoples are connected, both struggling against state-sponsored brutality and political repression. Palestinians stand in solidarity with our Libyan brothers and sisters in their revolution against Gaddafi, as well as others rising up against oppressive dictatorships in Syria, Yemen and Bahrain. The Palestinian movement for human rights, civil rights and equality has been invigorated and inspired by these pro-democratic movements.

Ms. McKinney, your pro-Gaddafi stance is completely hypocritical and contradictory to your support for the Palestinians.  Unless you retract your statements supporting Gaddafi, we don’t think you have any business sailing to Gaza again. We refuse to accept opportunistic support from people who advocate for murderers.


A Group of (Severely) Disappointed Palestinians from Gaza, West Bank, and the US

This open letter originally appeared on the blog Yansoon. The authors of this piece are a group of 5 Palestinian youth in the US, Gaza and the West Bank who became connected through social networking sites. They chose not to name themselves because they have been targets of harassment by the FBI and Israeli security personnel for their activism.

72 Responses

  1. Les
    June 22, 2011, 12:51 pm

    Thanks for letting us know why they are anonymous. The US media doesn’t discriminate between those who have long opposed Gaddafi and those who oppose NATO’s bombing of Libya.

  2. Seham
    June 22, 2011, 12:54 pm

    This is great, I love this letter. While we’re on the subject of Libya I posted this on twitter: Arab leftists can be the biggest hypocrites in the universe and I am happy not to identify as such. In Syria though there are elements of the opposition that are clearly aligned with Saudi Arabia, Israel and the U.S. we still get detailed accounts from Arab leftists of ALL regime crimes against the people. In Libya as soon as NATO started bombing the country then suddenly those same Arab leftists went completely silent on Qadhafi crimes and began questioning claims of rape and atrocities by Qadhafi forces made by Libyan civilians. Libyan rebels are dismissed as either wannabee American puppets or members of Al Qaida. The hypocrisy and double standards are mind boggling.

    • ToivoS
      June 22, 2011, 3:57 pm

      McKinney’s support of Qadhafi is most unfortunate. The man is a maniac and should be overthrown. But that is not to deny that the Libyan rebels include wannabee American puppets and members of Al Qaida. It is simply true. There is also very little doubt that Saudi Arabia is deeply involved in backing the transitional council. Whatever caused the spontaneous uprising by the Libyan people their “revolution” has been taken over by the most reactionary forces imaginable.

      As to the charges of mass rape Patrick Cockburn examines the case:

      link to

      I think he raises some serious questions here.

      • Seham
        June 22, 2011, 4:46 pm

        Yeah Tovio, there are American Wanabees and there may be AQ among Libyan rebels but what I am talking about are Arab leftists that have completely abandoned the opposition in Libya because of the role that NATO is playing while at the same time not doing the same to Syria even though there are many Syrians in the opposition begging the US to interfere in the affairs of the country and giving countless interviews to Israeli media. I am pointing out those hypocrisies. About the rape “claims” I have read countless accounts from rights activists and doctors who are describing in detail accounts of rape that are occurring, (from today link to if Patrick Cockburn or other leftists want to completely discount any and all rape allegations then that is unfortunate. It seems whatever filter they are using to desensitize themselves from the atrocities that are occurring in Libya does not filter out the stupidity behind some of the claims that seemingly pro US opposition forces in Syria are making. Why believe all the bullsh*t from Syria but because of NATO involvement in Libya nothing the rebels who accepted NATO’s help is true? Or the majority of Libyans can be dismissed as Qaida or puppets? Can I dismiss the majority of Syrians as sectarians? For the record though I originally was supportive of what the Libyan people wanted and it seemed that they wanted NATO intervention I now realize how foolish it is/was to ever expect NATO or any other western entity to do anything for the Libyan people but just because there are some idiots among the Libyan rebels doesn’t mean that I think it’s ok to turn a blind eye to the suffering of the Libyan people whether they are being attacked by NATO forces or by Qadhafi forces.

      • Seham
        June 22, 2011, 4:59 pm

        Correct link that I posted above: link to

      • VR
        June 22, 2011, 9:48 pm

        It is interesting that experienced reporters, like Dan Murphy of the Christian Science Monitor find some deja vu in these “reports.”

        “Yet it’s an extraordinary tale that has little hard information to back it. I was told the story repeatedly when I was in Libya in February and March, but could never verify any of it, so didn’t report it. I’ve also heard the mass rape claim with the odd Viagra detail before: about seven years ago in Iraq, and in multiple small wars in Indonesia before that.”

        However, what is not questionable is what the ICC is trying to do with this questionable information –

        Mr. Ocampo is already seeking separate war crimes warrants for Qaddafi and his son, and clearly has some prosecutorial zeal for the Libyan strongman. He didn’t provide any evidence for his claim beyond referring to reports that a few hundred women may have been raped.

        “Yet here’s how Ocampo’s claim was handled by The Guardian last week. “Libya mass rape claims: using Viagra would be a horrific first” is the headline. “Reports of the distribution of ‘Viagra-type’ pills to troops add an unprecedented element to Gaddafi’s alleged war crimes.” This paper also took Ocampo’s claims at face value. “ICC: Evidence shows that Qaddafi ordered rape of hundreds.” ”


        We have repeated excursions into “short history” here, no one remembers the past (or does not study it), and rumor mills, innuendo, unsubstantiated reports, and propaganda are all the tools of those who wish to do in any advance in any of these volatile regions. Granted, some are gullible and pushed along by their baseless prejudices, what we need to do is discern who is duped for whatever reason, and those with questionable designs.

  3. clenchner
    June 22, 2011, 1:15 pm

    Dear Avi, Keith and Danna:
    When I called out McKinney about this (link to you protested. Don’t be silent now in defense of McKinney just because it’s Palestinians protesting her absurd stance.

    • richb
      June 22, 2011, 2:10 pm

      I noticed how you were treated by DK. Juan Cole as martyr under the Bush Administration is OK but a critique of Anthony Weiner on policy not so much. That got your tip jar HRed and republished as a “troll” diary. The usual DK treatment on this topic can be found here when Bill Weinberg was consistent unlike others you critiqued above. (It’s nice to know that the self-appointed gate keepers at DK treat Bill, you, and me identically and it is strangely comforting.)

      link to

      • clenchner
        June 22, 2011, 4:49 pm

        I love MORC!
        My existence elsewhere is a closely guarded secret buddy…. There are certain advantages to having some folks think I’m merely a Zio-Hasbarist-Troll.
        I was involved in spreading Hakim Bey in Israel 25 years ago. One of my besties actually got him translated into Hebrew.

      • richb
        June 22, 2011, 7:25 pm

        I loved the polar opposite reactions to you in different fora. Did the person you know in RL chew you out like he promised?

      • clenchner
        June 22, 2011, 8:04 pm

        Yeah, we talked. He’s a good guy, I like him. He’s got what we might call militantly mainstream views on Israel. He told some of the other folks on the backchannel that I wasn’t as bad as all that. In retrospect, my case would have been stronger if expressed more mildly.
        Someone called me a ‘Mondofronter’ but came back later and apologized after looking more closely. (heh!)
        On some level, I think I’m missing the gene that makes one want to belong or be part of a mob.

  4. Pedestrian
    June 22, 2011, 1:44 pm

    “Anti-intervention shouldn’t equate to whitewashing Gaddafi’s crimes.”

    […] Replace “Ghaddafi” with “Khamenei”, “Asad”, etc, etc.

    EXACTLY! That’s what we Iranians were SCREAMING after our notorious election and the violence that followed (NOT comparing it to the violence in Libya) … while to our horror, many on the left cheered those thugs and murderers Ahmadinejad and Khamenei.

  5. Robert Werdine
    June 22, 2011, 2:53 pm

    Superb and moving letter.

    MicKinny also went on Iranian tv to praise the gangster-mullahs there. I have the feeling, though, that she has done these appearances not out of genuine support for the tyrannies of the mullahs and Gaddafi, but of naiveté and ignorance. She is, at worst, a useful idiot, and not an apologist for terror and oppression. She certainly wouldn’t be the first.

    • Citizen
      June 22, 2011, 3:41 pm

      Yeah, Werdine, your buddy Israelis should’ve kept Cynthia in jail; too bad they couldn’t because this would have created unwanted publicity in the USA–heck, even the Black Caucas might have said something about it!

    • Walid
      June 22, 2011, 3:43 pm

      The ignorance is of the 5 anonymous Palestinians that don’t know that the Libyan rebels are backed by exactly the same countries that backed the snuffing out of the Bahraini uprising that tried for a democracy and on the same side as the terrorist killers that are mingling among honest protesters in Syria. And some of them are also backers of Israel. I don’t like Gaddafi or any of his antics, but the magnificent 5 don’t know anything about him other than they have to hate him because rebels in his country are supposedly doing it for democracy. That’s ignorance.

      McKinney is being criticized for being on Gaddafi’s TV; would CNN, BBC, FP, Jazeera or Reuters given her chance to express her views?

  6. Dr Gonzo
    June 22, 2011, 3:26 pm

    Ohhhhh this letter really riles me up. NATO have killed around 70-90 civilians at least and reports from Tripoli indicate it is being heavily bombed every night and I’m reading about Palestinians cheering the NATO bombs dropping on Libya?

    Secondly, any Arab Spring that there was in Libya was quickly hijacked by two groups inside Libya. Business Interests and former Monarchists. The Libyan Transitional Council is a joke. Just look at one of the LTC’s first acts setting up a Central Bank or the account from Bernard Henri Levi that they agreed to recognise Israel or Mustafa Abdul Jalil the leader of the Council who thanked Saudi Arabia for its aid.

    In my general experience if the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia support a cause then it is probably bad news for resistance movements and activists both in the region and globally.

    • Seham
      June 22, 2011, 5:05 pm

      Gonzo, you are right about the LTC and I was blinded by the atrocities that Qadhafi was committing against Libyan and thus more willing to overlook their shortcomings. The only thing that bothers me and the only reason that I am bothering to comment on this thread is because I am baffled as to why Arab leftists are so judicious in their words when discussing the Syrian opposition even tho it has some SHADY elements in it yet they are so willing to completely condemn Libyan opposition and put quotation marks against all crimes committed against them. I lost count of how many hoax videos out of Syria I have seen to date!

      • Bandolero
        June 22, 2011, 8:09 pm

        Remember? I told you once.

        After Libya now the very same plot is applied to Syria. When I see videos with the camera flickering up and down to pretend action where no action is, all alarm bells ring instantly. And when I hear machine gun fire, but people show in the video in the street seem not to notice it, I know the sound track is fake. I also quickly understood, that bottles of blood to pretend injuries for propaganda purposes are in use again as they were used by the Mossad’s green movement in Iran.

        But a bit later I understood that some of the videos are real snuff videos, where inciters kill innocent people in false flag operations to pretend the perpetraitors are government forces and incite further bloody unrest this way. This false fllag snuff video propaganda technique was used in Iran with “Neda” and it is widely used in alleged Libyan and Syrian videos. It’s murderous propaganda.

        One of the anti-Syrian propaganda videos I recently I even saw before in use against Libya, too. It pretty much looks like the same fake video producing studios are at work against Libya and Syria. Many videos are as primitive falsifications as the Mavi Marmara videos circulated by IDF were. But I can only guess that their origins is the same, I have no proof. But I understand the psychology and the aims of the perpetraitors.

        It took me another while to realize the significance of Obamas “Presidential Study Directive” 11. It is reported as if it was just that Obama had foreseen “change in the MENA states” in this directive in August 2010. But the reality is different. Nobody could foresee the unrests – except one had the will and the means to create them. And that’s exectly what the Obama administration did. They created the unrests in al the MENA countries. They used all of Hilary Clintons “MEPI” programm resources, the US NGO sponsored Otpor consultants, the CIA and the military.

        What Obamas broad regime change policies had achieved in Tunisia and Egypt was fine, but in Libya, Syria, Yemen and Bahrain it turned just ugly. Libya regime change operations are done on behalf of the French, Syria on behalf of Israel, Bahrain and Yemen were abandonned half way after protests from the Sauds. So, Obama has sparked two fine revolutionary coups in Egypt and Tunisia, started one war of aggression in Libya, incited a large scale bloodshed in Libya and betrayed the U.S. MEPI client activists in Bahrain and Yemen, some of them now facing life sentences there.

        What I see important for us, who work on a better and more just world, that we don’t let us devide by these large scale covert regime change actions of the US. Instead, let’s focus our common stances: demand stop bloodshed, broker truce and peace, and political transition to governments the people decide their own about. And let’s not fall into the trap of the CIAs and their stooges propaganda lies, but keep our mind critical.

        As we all know the broad lies of mass media on the Palestine issues and know the techniques used, we have probably better chances to uncover the lies of mass media in the current regime change campaign to bring truth to light. We all know the technics applied to split Palestine solidarity with deceptive and disruptive allegeations like this one spoke with “islamist” Hamas representatives, this one endorsed “brutal” Iranian government or that one appeared on “anti-Semitic” Hezbollah TV. We shall be aware of those technics, misleading allegations and discard them.

        A last word to the identity of the “5 Palestinian youth in the US, Gaza and the West Bank” who wrote this open letter: I wouldn’t be surprised if they turned out to be a “gay girl from Damascus”.

      • Seham
        June 22, 2011, 8:42 pm

        “I wouldn’t be surprised if they turned out to be a “gay girl from Damascus”.”


        Bandolero, I would be more accepting of your views if you didn’t blatantly cheerlead for Qadhafi, which you do, often. US plots aside (and I believe the US is knee deep is some serious counter revolution0-izing all over Arab world, right now) these regimes are still committing crimes against their people and I just can’t stomach watching anyone applaud for Qadhafi.

      • Taxi
        June 22, 2011, 10:14 pm

        Counter-revolution forces and numerous varieties of intelligence agencies are all ganged up together and trying to play the dastardly three-card trick on the Arab masses so as to create confusion and intellectual imbalance in the Arab giant that arose from it’s slumber on Feb 25th, 2011. They’re especially using the internet as a silent mental weapon against this Arab spring, using cyber-savvy and even creative methods/ideas to disseminate their injurious propaganda – fairly successfully in some cases by the looks of it too.

        But they ain’t really smarter than us folks, right? Them CIA’ers, them mossadees and them mukhabaratees. Even though our resources are limited (unlike theirs), our cognitive faculties are well lubed, our integrity’s not for sale and our Sherlock Holmes pipes are well stuffed for an intimate brood on the shady daily details of the fluid revolution.

        The covert operations that have been exposed, were mainly exposed by vigilant bloggers and not the hired msm or even the smarter ‘world’ media. These mega blogger-busts have taught us much on so many levels. Clearly they’ve demonstrated to us the ugly machinations and the depth of evil that empire-seeking can lead to.

        Look it: it’s new game now, a new techno-socio-political phenomenon: because of the internet, everybody can and IS watching everybody else now. And as a response to this, counter-revolution forces are making of the internet a hall of mirrors where you can hide the truth in plain sight but have it utterly un-grab-able by the curious/vigilant world citizen out there.

        I advise us all to question everything, but with an open mind. This is how to disable the agitators’ thousand and one nefarious cyber-tentacles.

        This is how to stay on the path of truth and reason.

        This is how to win.

      • Bandolero
        June 23, 2011, 7:13 am

        Yes, it’s true, I “cheerlead” for Gaddafi. As the uprising began, I was fairly sympathic to the uprisers and highly critical on Gaddafi, to say the least.

        That changed when I saw the uprisers’ imam inciting masses in Benghazi with religious hate in the beginning of March, when I uncovered their bloody lies and murderous crimes, and when I noticed they didn’t want no peace or truce negotiations, but NATO bomb their country in the name of allah. What a disgrace.

        And then I saw how Gaddafi reacted to the uprising, I listened what he told his people and the world, I noticed how the western and GCC media tried to tarnish his image with lies and I understood how he championed to unite Africa against the predatory colonial powers.

        That’s how I became a supporter of Muammar Gaddafi.

      • Seham
        June 23, 2011, 11:48 am

        Oh yea Bandolero, I remember you very well, you started cheerleading most vocally for Qadhafi right after his screaming rant where he called Libyans rats drinking Nescafe laced with drugs and promising to go after them from house to house. I remember you very well. Not even Arab apologists for the regime stooped as low as you did.

      • General Choomin
        June 23, 2011, 3:30 pm

        Libya is not a majority of people. That’s a fact. If it was it would have been over. Right now the Libyan army and the rebels are using the same military hardware since all aircraft and armored mobile weapons (tanks) if used by any side would be destroyed by NATO in a second.

        The fact is that the uprising was basically 1000 dudes with cars driving around lynching black folk and shooting in the air. Qadhafi basically retreated. He, up until NATO got involved, had at maximum committed 25% of his forces to anything. The rebels promised up the entire nation to defeat Qadhafi and now have guys leading their council that are so incompetent that they have already outed that they where picked by the CIA.

        My criticism of the rebels is that they have no tangent goals nor do they have popular support. It’s an illusion. Instead of waiting 3 or 4 years for the drug addelled old man to die (and in the meantime organize politically in secret) they decided to do whatever the hell they are doing. Which will not give them any freedom when their country is forced into a neoliberal pact by European powers on the half of the country that they will be able to control as the other half seems to not want anything to do with them.

        Qadhafi is on drugs as most people can see in his various rants. Probably the same ones as the incompetent “opposition”. Neither one deserves to win.

        I’m just throwing this out there.

      • Dr Gonzo
        June 22, 2011, 9:34 pm

        Indeed Seham, Syria is a very murky situation. Honestly I’m not sure what to think on Syria and find myself constantly changing my mind.

        On one front is my desire to support Revolutionaries, which being a Marxist myself is something I want to see not just in the Arab world but in Europe as well.

        But on Syria this desire is weighted against alot of the shady elements you mention. The reports of armed gangs seem to be consistant and coming from many news sources and I think there many be an outside factor (possibly by Saudi Arabia) to stage an armed insurrection in Syria. The armed gangs seem to be very organised and doesn’t strike me as something that would occur in a spontaneous uprising.

        Then there is also the fact that NATO seems to want the chaos to continue in order to push for an intervention something that is being delayed by Russia and China’s objections. Also I think the situation could easily descend into civil war that could easily become regional.

        So in short with Syria I really don’t know what to believe.

      • Taxi
        June 22, 2011, 11:49 pm

        Assad Jnr. is fighting on two fronts: against genuine localized rebellion, and also against disruptive foreign agitators, specifically israel, usa and saudi arabia. This axis of immense power and muscle want to ‘shake down’ Assad Jnr. real hard because his closeness to the Iranian regime has allowed Iranian influence to spread right to israel’s doorstep. They’re shaking him down hard and bloody not because they want to remove him from power, no they don’t want that because they can’t stomach the certain alternative of a Syrian moslem brotherhood ruling over Syria – well Saudi Arabia can stomach that but not America or israel .

        The strategy is that if Assad is distracted by internal strife, he is then weakened and therefore Iranian influence too diminishes with him. On the chess board they’re trying to block Iran from exploiting the Arab Spring from close-up the israeli borders. Bearing in mind that if Iranian influence diminishes, or struggles somewhat, so will hizbolla’s and hamas too’.

        To the three Iranophobe countries, Syria therefore is the keystone. It’s like hitting four birds with one stone.

        Yet, they really do need Bashar to stay in power.

        That’s why he will. In a shaky sort of a way. Stay in power.

        In other words, the counter-revolutionary forces have hijacked the Syrian revolution as a means and weapon to fight Iran with.

        Iran! Iran! Iran! You could say the strife in Syria is all about Iran.

  7. Bandolero
    June 22, 2011, 3:53 pm

    In solidarity with Cynthia McKinney.

    I’m not sure who these “disappointed Palestinians from Gaza, West Bank, and the US” are, but they definitely do the CIAs and the Mossads bidding in propagating a predatory NATO war of aggression based on broad lies and disrupting the Palestine solidarity movement.

    Here are fresh pictures from what NATO did today to civilians in Al-Khoms: That’s how NATO protects civilians in Al Khoms

    And here you see what most Libyans think of NATO:

    What NATO is doing in Libya

    Disgusting, that Mondo Weiss supports the heinous NATO crimes and does the Mossads anonymous bidding here.

    • ish
      June 22, 2011, 4:10 pm

      The US/NATO attack on Libya is wrong and unsupportable. But if you think it’s a choice between Qaddafi and NATO you’re selling the people of the region short.

      McKinney’s embrace of a dictator is disgusting, no less than those who have embraced alleged democracy at the hands of cruise missiles.

      Over and over again Qaddafi has shown him to be exactly the same kind of friend of the Palestinians as, well, the US government is. Which is to say no friend at all.

      • Bandolero
        June 22, 2011, 5:00 pm

        No, her support for revolution leader Muamar Gaddafi is couragous, not disgusting. Disgusting are the Libyan contras. Lies, murder and social regression, that’s al what coming from them. As were the Nicaraguan contras, they are openly backed by the CIA and a large disinformation campaign from zionist and anti-communist mass media networks. That’s why those in Latin America, who understand the contra plots, from Chavez to Ortega, support the Libyan people and there legitimate leader Muammar Gaddafi in defense against NATO’s “fascist war” – as Fidel Castro named it.

        Those who are not bought by Mossad may want to read Jean-Paul Pougalas excelent analysis to understand the background of the war against Libya:

        The lies behind the West’s war on Libya

        This war against Libya has nothing to do with a revolution, but is a long preplanned war of aggression to maintain hegemony on Africa based on the pretext of a manufactured insurgency and broad propaganda lies. Those activists who really wanted a change to better in Libya were tricked by NATO into a bloody plot to become NATO’s imperial stooges like the contras were in Nicaragua.

        Obama gave order to his agencies to execute the regime change plots in MENA in his presidential study directive 11.

      • ish
        June 22, 2011, 8:39 pm

        Bandolero how dare you compare the dictator Qaddafi to the heroic Nicaraguan people. The Sandinista revolution was an actual revolution of the actual Nicaraguan people not a wealthy general using fake anti-imperialism to prop up his regime. Qaddafi is the biggest friend in Libya Neocolonialism ever had; he’s virtually Berlusconi’s best friend in conspiring to keep African immigrants out of Europe. You shame yourself and the entire left making any equivalence between the Sandinistas and the vile creature Qaddafi is.

      • Bandolero
        June 22, 2011, 11:27 pm

        If you speak of the “heroic Nicaraguan people” which did an actual revolution, I’ld recommend you to listen how the Nicaraguan revolution leader, Daniel Ortega, calls Muammar Gaddafi and whom he supports in this case of a CIA backed uprising: Nicaraguan leader backs ‘brother’ Gaddafi. Daniel Ortega calls Muammar Gaddafi “brother”, you name him “dictator”. Do you see the difference?

        I call the guys serving the CIA front of anti Gaddafi forces led by Khalifa Hiftar Contras, just as they called themselves some years ago with much proud, because they are truly counter revoutionary forces, in every sense of the word.

        Peter Taaffe remarked today’s similarities of the Libyan anti-Gaddafi forces with the Nicaraguan contras as well: Libya: the no-fly zone and the left

        If you want a more detailed profile about the revolutionary brother Muammar Gaddafi from a point of view of a revolutionary, I’ld recommend you Fidel Castro: NATO, war, lies and business. If you need some more infomation to understand the tribal nature of Libyan society formed by this young nations history, I’ld recommend you Said Gafurov’s “What is happening in Libya.” Libya was in the past 50 years literally catapulted from stone age to a relatively modern society.

        Having said that, I agree that it is ugly, that Libya contributed to the election campaign of such a most disgusting person as Nicolas Sarkozy. I could imagine many ways to improve Libyan society, but the “rebels” have proven themselves not to be forces of progress, but contras and traitors of their own people.

        And you, ish, I’ld recommend, that you don’t expose your head to so much hazzard from western mass media so that you don’t need shame yourself when you name a brother of the Sandinistas a “dictator” just because the media of western tyrants name him this way. These western propaganda outlets to spread lies have no squabbles to name Ortega, Castro, Chavez and Assad a dictator, too. At the same time they call Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron, Blair, Bush and the like statesmen instead of tyrants, mass murderers and war criminals. For the western salesmen of lies it’s easy to define, who is a dictator: anybody not a puppet on the U.S. payroll.

      • ish
        June 23, 2011, 6:37 am

        Daniel Ortega of 2011 is not the same as Daniel Ortega of 1979. Most of the leading left-wing Sandinistas have moved into opposition.

        And yes, Assad is a dictator too. Presumably you didn’t enjoy Bush Jr being President but Assad Jr. is okay?

      • Bandolero
        June 23, 2011, 10:00 am

        Funny to hear, that most of the leading left-wing Sandinistas have moved into opposition. Oh, yes, and Castro, Chavez and Assad are not left neither. Left is now where imperial tyrants like Bush and Obama are located and their contras. Who shall believe that?

        Seriously – you may argue for the imperial wars of the US empire, but don’t pretend you are part of the international left. That’s just ridiculous. Left are leaders like Ortega, Chavez, Gaddafi, Castro and Assad, but not colonialists and imperialists like Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron and their puppets.

      • ish
        June 22, 2011, 5:25 pm

        And, Bandolero, one of those sources you link to, Aangirfan, seems to be not only conspiracy-theory-ridden but anti-Semitic as well. See this post of theirs: link to

      • Bandolero
        June 22, 2011, 5:40 pm

        If you run out of arguments, shoot the messenger.

        The post from aangirfan I linked to is definitely not anti-Semitic. And the videos embedded there are not anti-semitic neither, but informative, becaue they show what mass media hide.

      • Citizen
        June 22, 2011, 6:00 pm

        Interesting link, ish. Are you saying all the statements there are false?
        Or just misleading in some way you don’t mention? Or what?

      • ish
        June 22, 2011, 8:46 pm

        False? Misleading? I don’t know. Isn’t there an important fine line for suggesting that American Mid-East policy is partly to blame for 9/11 and embracing nutcase ideas about 9/11 being an “inside job”? One needs to choose one’s source of opinion and news on the internet cautiously. Once I saw the anti-Semitism on that blog I stopped reading it. My point is that any propaganda war is complex. Much of the Left, in its absolutely correct opposition to NATO/US bombing, has taken the unnecessary step of pretending Qaddafi is some kind of freedom-fighting leftist.

      • annie
        June 22, 2011, 9:34 pm

        Isn’t there an important fine line for suggesting that American Mid-East policy is partly to blame for 9/11

        not that i know of. i think only nutcases think 9/11 was unrelated to american middle east policy.

        embracing nutcase ideas about 9/11 being an “inside job”?

        as opposed to the guys in the cave theory?

      • ish
        June 23, 2011, 6:38 am

        as opposed to the guys in the cave theory?

        Which is documented by facts? Yes.

      • Citizen
        June 23, 2011, 7:27 am

        Only a nutcase would accept the official explanation of 9/11 given all the contradicting evidence and unanswered questions. Further, even the 9/11 Commission pointed out the I-P conflict and US policy on it as a clear motiation for the attack in the body of it’s public report, although that report’s conclusion regarding motivation dropped that specific finding regarding motivation, editing to merely state that US foreign policy (generically) always results in blowback. Yes, one does need to always consider the source of opinion and news. What makes Qaddafi most unique in the ME is not that he is more selfish or cruel to his own people than other regimes there, but that his track record shows he is in nobody’s pocket. Supporters for and against him are all taking a great risk, but there’s “gold” in them thar hills, or, ah, sands–and a decent geo-stategic position.

      • Citizen
        June 23, 2011, 9:01 am

        9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s explanation regarding his motivation for attacking the United States, as cited on page 147 of the 9/11 Commission Report:
        “By his own account, KSM’s animus toward the United States stemmed not from his experience there as a student, but rather from his violent disagreement with U.S. foreign policy favoring Israel.”

      • Taxi
        June 23, 2011, 10:20 am


        Bless you and your relentless patience – but is this ‘ish’ person really worth bothering with? I mean we’ve had some amateurs around here plenty before but his argument is so pathetically uncritical that it really belongs on the huffington post or yahoo comment section, know waddamean?

      • ish
        June 23, 2011, 10:41 am

        I don’t disagree with that…why would you think I did?

      • ish
        June 23, 2011, 10:50 am

        Dear ‘Taxi” person, I went to my first anti-war demonstration in the late 1960s when I was ten years old. I’m not sure why you think I’m some kind of “amateur.” I have written at great length on my own blog about my opposition to the war in Libya (link to But unlike those of you who seem to be embracing Qaddafi, I have not lost sight of the fact that the real division in the world is ruling classes and people, and frankly that puts Obama and Qaddafi on the same side, merely friends having a difference of opinion over who gets to rule the Libyan masses for themselves.

        Citizen’s view of Qaddafi in “nobody’s pocket” is hopelessly naive and ill-informed. Qaddafi has been neo-colonialism’s best friend in North Africa since at least 2003.

      • Taxi
        June 23, 2011, 11:46 am


        Citizen is right. Qaddafi IS alone and desperately cornered. Every night, when he’s feeling most vulnerable, he suffers from paranoiac paroxysms to recall the chilling youtube footage of Sadam Hussein’s hanging. The truth is the few voices of international support for Qaddafi are only that: noisy air, vocal objections BUT no practical action taken to aid him. Because he can’t be truly helped no more – everyone’s hands are tied by his enemies. Libya is like a snake pit where two viscous snakes fight over egg and territory, thrashing, thrashing till the bitter end. Poor civilian masses caught between fangs and poison: turning up dead, traumatized or injured for life.

        I can appreciate your take on the real war being the same-old same-old war of rulers versus ruled, but don’t you think this admirable stance of yours contradicts your close alignment with the government’s version of 9/11? I personally don’t subscribe to any theory, except to say things just don’t add up and we need to investigate this further – who knows what further intelligence or information will turn up with further investigations? But we should indeed investigate further this unconvincing and inconclusive presentation to the public – really for the sake, dignity and memory of those who tragically perished.

      • Citizen
        June 23, 2011, 3:54 pm

        Ish says on his website: “The foreign intervention in Libya may ostensibly be in support of the Libyan rebels, but it is most certainly NOT in the support of the tide of revolution sweeping the Arab world.”

        The non-Jewish ME masses don’t necessarily agree with you here, ish. Obama has recaptured some of that ME mind and heart lost when he dragged his feet in Tunisia, and most especially, in Egypt’s Arab Spring. Domestically, Obama had to be perceived as
        more staunchly supporting the Arab Spring by his own party. So he slyly jumped on the band wagon very selectively, and only in support of a NATO coalition. So now he gets to say with a semi-straight face he support democracy around the world (although of course he does not; in the ME, like those before him, he supports dictators who assure US-Israeli tangible interests are secure at the expense of the ME masses).

        More ish on his website: ” It is an an attempt to control and tame that struggle. Just connect a few dots. US. Arab League. Saudi Arabia. Bahrain.”

        Why, yes I agree. The US regime wants to control and tame that struggle as it does generally in the ME–and the main reason is Libya’s energy resources. You can add another dot: Israel. And the main reason for that dot is a US domestic one: the Israel Lobby, campaign dollars & Zionist mainstream media fawning. Your class struggle macro doesn’t fit so well there, which I guess is why you don’t talk about Israel-US special relationship on your website.

        And do the world’s protesters really want to empower the US airforce and NATO to act as the world’s policemen?”

        No. But they also don’t want to empower a tyrant like Gaddafi to abuse his own people.

        Here’s a few things to respond to on your blog ish:
        link to

        And here’s a few more:
        link to

      • Citizen
        June 23, 2011, 4:00 pm

        Also, ish, please tell us what you think the main, or at least a significant motivation for the 9/11 was? If there were a few key motivators, what are they, and how do you think the 9/11 attackers ranked them as their motivating factors? Do you think that attack on the twin towers was instigated by the working class man over there in the ME?

      • ish
        June 23, 2011, 4:25 pm

        Thanks for reading my blog Citizen.

        I don’t think hardly anyone is buying the idea that the US really supports the Arab spring, just like I don’t think anyone buys the sophistry that NATO does not equal USA.

        PS I may not have specifically mentioned the “US-Israel special relationship” but I condemn the State of Israel all the time. In any case I’m not sure how that counteracts a “class struggle macro.”

      • ish
        June 23, 2011, 4:49 pm

        Citizen, regarding 9/11, I have no reason to doubt it was the work of fundamentalist Muslims, having both legitimate and illegitimate complaints against the U.S. ranging from its Middle-East policy to alleged decadence of American society.

        I didn’t say all struggle was class struggle.

        I’m not sure what this has to do with the topic at hand.

      • Citizen
        June 23, 2011, 5:34 pm

        ish, I tend to agree with you on that in the sense that most of the Iranian and Arab and Turk masses certainly don’t buy that the US is supporting the Arab Spring, and they know NATO is basically US-controlled as it is by far the biggest funder & military arm of that organization.

        In the sense that the Jewish Establishment trumpets in the USA are orchestrated via AIPAC, they are part of the socio-economic elite that the working class needs to be free from for their own good, both in the USA and in the ME.

      • Citizen
        June 23, 2011, 5:39 pm

        OK, ish; perhaps I misunderstood your earliest comments on this thread. The topic here was the ostensibly inconsistent views of Cynthia McKinney in that she fought against oppression of the Palestinians but now seems to have come out favoring Gaddafi’s oppression of his own people?

  8. kapok
    June 22, 2011, 4:40 pm

    killing his own — that’s what happens in a civil war; doesn’t mean intervention is call for

    a dictator — look at the map; Libya’s in a tough neighbourhood; parliamentary democracy is fine if you’ve got the firepower.

    obviously Ghadaffi has plenty of support, otherwise this war, which was originally supposed to last a couple of weeks, would have been over by now. The lesson has been brought home again and again: The EU, and the US don’t give a damn about democracy.

    don’t pretend that the “rebels” aren’t being heard.

  9. clairseoir
    June 22, 2011, 4:45 pm

    Something really smells about this anonymous letter – a definite whiff of false-flag propaganda. The fact that the Libyan rebels have already indicated their preparedness to recognize Israel should already have set off alarm bells among the less credulous. Rather than on Cynthia McKinney’s part, I suspect the naïveté has all on been on the part of the bloggers at Yansoon, and anyone else who takes this letter at face value.

  10. Martinji
    June 22, 2011, 5:14 pm

    I’m glad that at least Bandolero is capable of an iota of critical thought.

    Yasoon is unashamedly pro-war with respect to Libya, and this anonymous letter from unknown ‘disappointed Palestinians’ raises a lot of questions.

    It’s doing a damn good job of marginalising McKinney. As an ex-US Congresswoman she is the only high profile person giving the Libyans a voice, a voice that the Americans & NATO do not want to be heard.

    Considering that this letter reads like it was written by Hillary Clinton, one should be very cautious. I suspect there’s a very good reason for these ‘disappointed Palestinians’ to be anonymous.

    More on this here: link to

  11. Taxi
    June 22, 2011, 5:26 pm

    I hate Nato. I hate Qaddafi. The Bahrain royals I hate. The Jordanian royals too. The Syrian regime is disgusting. I hate the moslem, christian and jewish ‘brotherhoods’. I really hate Saudi Arabia. Don’t even mention the Iranian mullahs to me!! I am wholeheartedly against American foreign policy in the middle east. I hate the left and I hate the right and most certainly I profoundly hate Apartheid isreal. (Have I left anybody out?… probably!)

    So like, what does that make me?

    Not alone that’s for sure!

    Good grief the Arab spring for has gone gumbo!

    • annie
      June 22, 2011, 6:32 pm


      you crack me up taxi! that’s a whole lotta hatin’ going round. i don’t like them either, so there.

      • ToivoS
        June 22, 2011, 9:31 pm

        I hate the left

        Hey that is me you are talking about. Why?

        To be sure we have are share of idiots. Way too many leftists who believe if a regime is attacked by the imperialist forces, then they are my ally. But they are not that important. Check out Angry Arab or Counterpunch for generally reasonable leftist perspectives. Also keep in mind Finklestein and Chomsky are of the left.

      • Taxi
        June 22, 2011, 10:40 pm


        It’s like when I went to Sweden, I realized that their center-right block would be considered socialist and even ‘communist’ in Texas.

        Seems to be all so ‘relative’ if you ask me.

        And besides, both the American left and the right are in bed with shape-shifting big business and I find that hypocritical and creepy.

        I may like some of the principles that the left upholds, but I most certainly hate the way they do business here in America – cowardly and all talk but no action.

      • ToivoS
        June 22, 2011, 10:49 pm

        Sorry, I didn’t fully understand what you were saying. You are talking about ‘liberals’ not the left in general. Because these terms are not well defined I will not take it personally.

  12. maggielorraine
    June 22, 2011, 5:47 pm

    What is with the false dichotomy? It is not Gaddafi or NATO, just like it isn’t Israel or Iran. The fact that we do not support the atrocious actions of this dictator does not necessarily mean we DO support NATO bombing or other foreign intervention. Honestly things like this make me sick…it’s the exact same situation as Iran. One should be allowed to point to legitimate evidence for human rights abuses without being called a war hawk. This is utter nonsense. The fact that so many people here have resorted to being apologists for injustice is really quite disheartening. You do not need to delegitimize the suffering of the Iranian or Libyan people in order to come out against US/NATO/Whoever intervention. Their abuse is inexcusable. There just happens to be an unfortunate intersection of interests between those who demand their rights and those who would exploit this opportunity.

    • Jeffrey Blankfort
      June 22, 2011, 8:41 pm

      Thank you, MaggieLorraine. The fact that there is no such animal as “humanitarian intervention” and doubly so when it is being carried out by a consortium of the greatest imperialists in modern history does not for a moment justify support for a dictator who for the better part of 42 years has suppressed all political dissent, including the murder of 1200 prisoners in the Tripoli prison in 1996, who “disappeared” the progressive Lebanese Shia cleric Imam Musa Sadr in 1978, and who has been collaborating with the CIA and the US “war on terror” since it was launched by the Bush administration, and the same applies to the Assad regime in Syria.

      There is no excuse for dictators and particularly by those who have never lived under one and who are free to engage in political activities that would have them tortured and imprisoned, if not killed, in those very regimes whose only “ennobling” criteria is that they are in the target hairs of US and Western imperialism.

      I, too, am of the opinion that a variety of outside forces have inserted themselves into the Libyan and Syrian situations, because that can be expected to happen when dictatorships are in the process of coming apart and a certain degree of chaos reigns and players from across and outside of the political spectrum, from the CIA to the Muslim Brotherhood look to seize the opportunities that are presented and create new ones that serve their agenda.

      And in Libya it seems what we might call the bad guys have clearly seized controls of the rebel movement. But that doesn’t make Khadafi into any less of a dictator or the rebellion against him any less legitimate.

      The arguments offered in his defense, i.e.,, free schools, cars, housing, education, medical care, no doubt have some truth in them, but were these not the same arguments offered by the Western Left in defense of the police states that made up the Soviet bloc? Are they somehow more valid in this instance? I doubt it.

      I know Cynthia McKinney and respect her as well as her motives. I think, however, like those well meaning individuals who came back from Russia in the 30s like Lincoln Steffens (“I have seen the future and it works!’) and in the 60s from peace conferences in East Germany, Czechoslovakia, etc. and who spoke glowingly of the glories of “socialism,”she had been pre-programmed to see Libya through rose colored glasses and so she did.

      The ANSWER group, with whom she is touring has been a picture of consistency (going back to its previous incarnations) when it comes to supporting dictators, its previous heroes having included Pol Pot, Ceaucesku and Saddam Hussein. And today they are champions of Ahamadinejad in Iran with Brian Becker even hosting an hourly interview program on Iranian National News.

      I am indeed sorry to see Cynthia in that company.

  13. stevelaudig
    June 22, 2011, 6:30 pm

    Former Congresswoman McKinney is such a mixed bag of occasional dopery that I have found it difficult to hold a consistent opinion with regards to her public personality. I guess I’d let her park my car, drive it in city, but not cross country. Can’t think of a better metaphor. Her public pronouncements are oftentimes agreeable and sometimes seem to result from a brain fart.

  14. joer
    June 22, 2011, 6:34 pm

    Whatever you think of Mckinney or the letter, the whole event does point to a problem that voters who sympathize with Palestinians have-namely, there aren’t a whole lot of non-Zionist candidates to choose from-and the ones who do question US pro-Israel policy, also stand alone on other issues as well-and it’s kind of hard to support the whole package a lot of times. Ron Paul advocates a sensible policy in the Mideast, but he’s a free market ideologue. I like Kucinich in general, but I can understand how a lot of voters find him a little flaky and extreme. My political outlook tends to be leftish, but taking an even handed approach between Palestine and Israel is not an extreme position, left or right-but the only debate about this issue is on the fringes. I feel sorry for those who feel passionate about the Palestinians, but is not a left or right wing radical-it’s a lonely place to be.

    • annie
      June 22, 2011, 7:56 pm

      I feel sorry for those who feel passionate about the Palestinians, but is not a left or right wing radical-it’s a lonely place to be.

      i don’t feel lonely. i feel like i am part of a growing movement.

      • Citizen
        June 22, 2011, 9:26 pm

        I’m with annie on this.

      • annie
        June 22, 2011, 9:36 pm


        big tent, everybody’s invited.

  15. radii
    June 22, 2011, 6:36 pm

    there is always a contrarian in every group – and among self-aggrandizing politicians they are easier to spot … unless McKinney has taken money from Gaddafy or is beholden to him in some way it makes no sense that she would speak in his defense when he is a known despot who has murdered countless number of his own people … I’ve always loathed McKinney and didn’t know why exactly – now I do – she is just a shameless self-promoter and uses her contrarianism to get attention

  16. Jeffrey Blankfort
    June 23, 2011, 3:26 am

    radii, I will be more polite in this response than I would in person in response to this post of yours. First, McKinney is, unfortunately, far from the only person on “Left” who has come out in support of Khadafi. To judge from articles I have seen in my email box from a number of otherwise perceptive individuals both in the US and in Europe, including other friends of mine, support for Khadafi is fairly wide spread. The general criteria is the same. If a person is targeted by US imperialism, that person or regime needs to be defended and from what we have seen doing so has made some otherwise decent people look stupid and ridiculous. But not as stupid and ridiculous as those who support the NATO bombing.

    That being said, McKinney was one of the few members of Congress not to sign a statement pledging her loyalty to Israel that AIPAC presents to every aspiring member of Congress from both parties. Not only was she one of the lone voices in the House on behalf of the Palestinians she was one of the only ones to raise serious questions about the official narrative of 9-11 and at a public hearing forced Gen. Richard Meyers to admit that NORAD was under a stand down order at the time of the WTC attack, a fact that is unknown by 99% of the American people. If you’re after some one to loath, radii, try looking in the mirror.

  17. IsraelShamir
    June 23, 2011, 8:26 am

    Firstly, I do not trust anonymous letters. Probably they were written somewhere in the US, nowhere near Palestine. If they are anonymous, why there is no signature of the Lesbian Blogger from Damascus?
    Second, I admire Cynthia McKinney, who is the only American poltician with heart, head and guts.
    Third, Qaddafi or not Qaddafi – let the Libyans sort it out, without outside interference. Qaddafi offered free elections, the ‘rebels’ refused.
    Four, and this is to Jeff Blankfort, the Russians were better off in the Soviet days, Belarus people are better off with Lukashenko, Iraqis were better off with Saddam, and surely Libyans are better off with Kaddafi. So you consider them “dictators”, or even “diktators”. These people enjoyed massive support – just as dictators of Rome did.

  18. Jeffrey Blankfort
    June 23, 2011, 1:00 pm

    It depends on what one considers to be “better off.” Where basic needs were met that may have indeed been true but in all the cases mentioned people were also “better off” if they kept their mouths shut because if they dared to publicly dissent they would end up in the gulag and/or beaten and tortured in prison. Full stop. No exceptions.

    Shortly after the capture of Baghdad, I had the opportunity of watching parts of several home videos from the private collection of Saddam that Robert Fisk had obtained and brought to the US. The first, 40 minutes long, featured an Iraqi police official using a yard long length of electric cable to beat a pile of Iraqi prisoners from one section of a prison yard to another and then back again while four or five uniformed police or soldiers calmly watched, without any sign of emotion, from behind a short distance away.

    A second video was of a party hosted by his sons with what appeared to be Russian prostitutes and the third of the whole family walking in the snow with Saddam, much the patriarch, looking very much like Josef Stalin.

    That the crimes of Saddam against his own people do not begin to match those committed by the United States and that for many if not most Iraqis life was better and certainly more secure than it is today, does not make Saddam any less of a criminal and I believe outsiders should be the last persons to tell people that they should be happy living under a dictatorship. Certainly, someone as outspoken as is Israel Shamir, should appreciate that.

  19. IsraelShamir
    June 24, 2011, 11:32 am

    we live in a real world, not in a fiction. Were prisoners beaten in Saddam’s days? Probably yes. Are prisoners being beaten in the US – and I do not even refer to the US-occupied lands from Iraq to Guantanamo, but to mainland US? Probably yes.
    I cerainly do not tell Iraqis or Libyans or Russians that it is better to live in an authoritarian state. What I do say (1) that their chances to get rid of authoritarianism are very small, (2) the Western powers who claim they will help them to do so, are actually planning to steal their assets. Is it possible to get out of this vicious circle? Probably yes, but the bets are against it.
    So perhaps they should hope and work for a better ruler, even if this ruler is not elected by universal suffrage. People are mortal, so no tyrant rules forever.

  20. sydwalker
    June 30, 2011, 2:58 am

    I have been utterly mystified by Jeff Blankfurt’s support for the NATO ‘operation’ in Libya (4,900+ ‘strike sorties’ and counting) – and reading this exchange has been fascinating, though I remain no less mystified.

  21. crypticvalentin
    September 15, 2012, 3:03 am

    5 anonymous kids are telling McKinney she shouldn’t sail to Gaza?..does US or NATO support the Palestinian struggle?..why did US, NATO align against Gaddafi?..

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