Below is the Google translation of the text at JDL's French Website. I am literally shaking while typing this. I do not know what more I can say.
TRAVEL militant solidarity in the West Bank
Posted September 3, 2011 by AdministratorThe JDL is organizing 19 to 25 September, a trip solidarity with our Israeli brothers living on the land of our ancestors Judea and Samaria.
This trip is for militants with military experience: The aim of this expedition is to lend a hand to our brothers face the aggression Palestinian occupants and thus enhance the security features of Jewish cities in Judea and Samaria.
As Clint Eastwood said: $%@# me!
*heh* ‘Make my Day’, too…! ;-)
Mahalo, Annie, for snagging that sickening snippet…!
Btw, Do unto others…
thx tuttle , appreciated. excellent link/video.
BTW, Do unto others:
link to ynetnews.com
seriously? i think that was the whole pt of turkey, payback.
you should analyze the timeline better annie.
YNet publishes nothing but pro-Israel propaganda. Pass.
Anyway what timeline? Unless this unprecedented event (citing YNet on that here, feel free to contradict that DBG) happened BEFORE 1967 then no, annie’s analyzing the timeline just fine because Israel has never NOT treated the West Bank like a caged animal. Are you trying to suggest that Israel hasn’t been restricting access to the West Bank since today, the day after the that article was published?
Foreign Ministry officials admit: Turkey citizens routinely humiliated at Israel’s airport
seriously dbg, this is the same foreign ministry that photographed turkey’s ambassador in a lower chair. and i am supposed to believe they don’t intentionally humiliate people. you’re a tool. this is payback.
DBG,
…in 2010. So he’s the only to be jailed for that offense too, right?
It’s hilarious for Israel to scapegoat ONE soldier for stealing from the Mavi Marmara. What, did he take every single one of the hundreds of cell phones that were never returned to the passengers after Israel kidnapped and briefly interned them?
chaos,
…and all their money, too.
“land of our ancestors, Judea and Samaria” – the ancestors of their ancestors ancestors!
“face the aggression Palestinian occupants” – the indigenous population, with far more ancestral rights!
Reversing reality. Hope this will prove to be against French law.
Otherwise, echo CG!
Wonder if the same call has gone out on Jewish websites in other countries?
yes, one wonders how this plays with french law and if this is going on in other countries…
thanks annie..
My impression is that JDL may have legal troubles in France because freedom of speech is limited in Europe, and this text can be “construed as incitement to violence” etc. One should check the translation though, Google automatic translations are not reliable. For example, “occupant” could be “inhabitant”, but perhaps not. But it looks like “Brothers, join is in the pogrom!”.
the original link to the site is there in all it’s french glory. have at it.
“freedom of speech is limited in Europe”
Speaking the truth about the I/P conflict is limited in Europe. Zionism/Nazism analogies are considered anti-semitic (also by the ADL), and I think there is EU legislation against it by now. If the JDL is not comparable to the Brownshirts, who is? Germans left the Third Reich in droves to fight the Nazis from abroad, and Jews have left Israel for the same reason. These guys run to Israel from their comfortable lives abroad to join in the pogroms.
“For example, “occupant” could be “inhabitant””
No Piotr..It’s even worse than Google’s translation (Palestinian occupants). ‘occupants palestiniens’ simply means Palestinian OCCUPIERS.
I agree, Piotr, that occupant inFrench doesn’t necessarily mean military occupation only, but simply denizen, someone that lives there. On the other hand they could have chosen the word: habitant = inhabitant, which they didn’t.
So they may in fact like the association of occupiers which is clearly there.
JDL may have legal troubles in France because freedom of speech is limited in Europe
French law.
It may be difficult in this context, since they kept to the conventional narrative: they only intend to “defend” their brothers, against the aggression of Palestinian inhabitants, dwellers, occupiers …
By the way: Have you read the “Fear Inc” publication? I found it interesting, since I have been obsessed with many of these characters and their activities post 911. The fact that Breivik could freely cite from many of these hate-preachers shows you that our laws may ultimately be useless.
This is the translation
The LDJ organoise from the 19 to the 25 of September a trip of solidarity with our Israelians brothers living in our ancestors land in Judea-Samaria
This trip is only for militants having military experience: the aim of this expedition is to help our brothers in the front of aggressions from the Palestinians occupiers and therefore to reinforce security apparel of the Jewish cities in JudeaSamaria.
Sickening.
Something ackward also, on the Monde Diplomatique website someone put the same text saying that it come from the Muslim Defense leuague!! Exactly the same wording, off course, just adapting it to suit the situation
“…aggressions from the Palestinians occupiers…”
No way around it…this isn’t going to be solved anytime soon.
Those recruited from other lands are the essence of the “true-believer.”
I had a US-ex-IDF “out me” and call for violence against me at my work (I made the mistake of registering with my real name in the profile at the LAJJ – doesn’t really matter, I stand behind my words regardless). He was one of the most ignorant, loud-mouthed, belligerent individuals I’ve ever had the displeasure to come across.
Coward that he is, he was singing a completely different tune when I was able to gather a few details about him (Dave K. of the SFV). He hasn’t made a peep since I let him know I found out where he lived (at least under his own nick – I’ve gotten flak remarkably similar to his from “anonymous” posters since then at hardcore Zionist sites).
He is/was the epitomy of a total violent, hate-ridden, douchebag. He was even banned (temporarily if you can believe it) from the LAJJ for making death threats against the then webmaster. My ban from the JJ forum has been permanent (I challenged the official narrative – I have a long comment history there I can’t even get to without a lot of headache).
This was largely the beginning of my understanding of the tactics of Z-teamers. As an atheist, I was treated with respect at the ummah forum by the community and never any threats of violence. I had a prickly mod there that hated me and banned me several times. That was the only time I revised my handle so I could go back and chat with my friends. I remember they were very polite and patient when I spouted my own “Israel good, terrorist fanatics bad” spiel. It felt good to go back years later and say how wrong I was.
Acronym finder can’t help me: LAJJ (LA= Los Angeles?]
I’m sorry LeaNder. I didn’t mean to be so cryptic.
It’s the “Los Angeles Jewish Journal.”
LOL desperation galore.
No amount of foreign assistance will help the foreign colonialists in the holy land.
…in the holy land.
My only regret as a Baha’i, is that our ‘Universal House of Justice’ is perched atop Mt. Carmel…! ;-)
Calm down Annie. The Zionist are becoming desperate. Things seem to be coming to a head. This UN recognition thing seems to have created a crises atmosphere within the Zionists ranks. They are now rallying their troops. It seems likely that the Palestinians will suffer from this reaction, but it is hard to see how Israel will come out of this improved. Avnery warned in his Dogs of War article that the Zionists are preparing for a violent backlash and it will be painful to watch.
It’s truly sad that the Palestinians always pays the price…! 8-(
It seems likely that the Palestinians will suffer from this reaction, but it is hard to see how Israel will come out of this improved. Avnery warned in his Dogs of War article that the Zionists are preparing for a violent backlash and it will be painful to watch.
i am well aware this will be bad pr for israel (likely that the Palestinians suffer from this reaction) but lives are at stake toivo, lives. how many lives chewed up by dogs and militias in planned attacks by zio settlers? i can’t help it my heart bleeds just thinking about it. the horror. they are planning this attack well in advance, preparing their ‘reaction hasbara ‘ and there is no evidence palestine plans anything but a non violent protest or celebration of the UN. it breaks my heart. who will be sacrificed this time? who? which youths? which leaders? who will be chewed by their dogs and guns?
Annie I respect your passion. I guess I am just trying to protect myself from horror that the Zionists are preparing for the Palestinians this coming month. I feel powerless– the Israelis will do what they do, the US will announce that the Israelis have the right to defend themselves (whatever they do) and all I can do is sit back in horror and watch
The fact that Israel may come out of this with less support than before on the diplomatic front is not what I would call progress — the human suffering has to account for something.
“I guess I am just trying to protect myself from horror [...]”
Basically. It’s what keeps me from watching as many videos as I might like, and it’s what keeps me from visiting the occupied territories and viewing the plethora of photographic evidence, the selfish shrinking from the thought that I’d just start crying and wouldn’t stop, possibly for the rest of my life.
Just my constant curiosity: what is the “ancestral” connection of Jews to Samaria? Jews are descendant of Judah, and not of Ephraim as Manasseh, as Samaritans claims. And many Palestinian claim Samaritan ancestry (a few, Samaritan religion as well).
fuck history just friggin fuck it. this is here and now and we all know what is comin down. i’m sick of this framing. fuck framing.they are framing a massacre and i want the WORD OUT.
I love you Annie. Thanks for finding this.
don’t thank me Seham, thank Professor Mazin Qumsiyeh. follow the link. it’s the domino effect of following the news to the bitter end:
(5) being:
Sehamo pass this info around, let everyone know, let it burn a hole in the internet.
The zios are in a disturbed state:
link to haaretz.com
Something in the air tells me they’re about to get whipped back real good.
Well now you’ve pretty much guaranteed that the Zionists will avoid this topic like the plague. I imagine so, anyway. Otherwise, how will they be able to handle justifying the state-sanctioned pogroms that you just documented?
i love you to Seham, really i do. it’s total solidarity. taxi girl..we’re in this til the finish. all of us. there’s so space between.
state sanctioned pogroms? which state is sanctioning them the French?
also usually when something is documented it has to already have happened, I don’t think an invitation from a French group asking for volunteers for a future event can be considered documentation of said event.
how do foresee the finish to look Annie? will you then abandon the Palestinians like you abandoned SA after the fall of apartheid?
And how many Jews fled South Africa after apartheid, to move to Israel, DBG? Pray tell.
Are the French sending settler-colonist-combatants onto the West Bank to set fire to olive groves and burn down mosques? Don’t play stupid, DBG, it suits you well enough but nobody’s fooled that you’re THAT brainless. JDL is not a French organization, and its not the French government that its in bed with.
you should really do the research on your own before you make racist claims like that. I really can’t believe the stuff I hear on here.
As soon as an invitation has been composed…it is a document…in fact, a rough draft is a document…even better…the napkin you made notes on for the invitation…is a document and documents a stage in the planning of the event. The final invitation itself, documents the invitation for the recruitment.
I can write a love note in the skin of an apple and it is considered a legal documention of love…or obsession.
how do foresee the finish to look Annie? will you then abandon the Palestinians like you abandoned SA after the fall of apartheid?
abandon SA after the fall of aparatheid? gee dbg, as embarrassing as this is to admit i wasn’t aware of aparthied until it was over. long over. it just wasn’t on my radar. your pt?
Good one CigarGod!
Oh, screw you, DBG. We’ve got a post RIGHT HERE pointing to an Israeli organization’s attempts to recruit in France, basically, terrorists to attack Palestinians once they gain statehood. You have the gall to accuse of of racists? How many piles of pachydermic waste did you have to wade through in your vain attempt to ignore the elephant in the room?
Wow, Taxi. They have a hammer and everything is a nail.
Speaking to the base should never be allowed anywhere near the net. It looks so ludicrous to outsiders.
The answer from Israel is always violence, regardless of the question.
“as embarrassing as this is to admit i wasn’t aware of aparthied until it was over.”
Wow, you’re right, that is embarrassing. I’m guessing you have 20 years on me and I was boycotting South African goods and singing “Free Nelson Mandela” for 10 years before the end of Apartheid.
Which makes you a hypocrite for your b.s. anti-BDS stance (while assuring us you’re anti-occupation).
What’s wrong DGB? Are you feeling nostalgic for the good old days?
No Cliff. I’m anti the BDS movement which calls for a one-state solution, whitewashes Hamas war crimes and turns a blind eye to the anti-Semitic elements that use it for cover. I believe boycott can be a useful tool, but it’s not a blunt instrument and the BDS movement is simply not sharp enough to wield it correctly.
No you’re not. You’re anti-BDS movement because it hurts the economy you’ve invested in, GuiltyFeat. You can apply the same sort of Jack Abramoff smear job if you like but it gets no traction whatsoever.
I’m anti the BDS movement which calls for a one-state solution …
Where?
… whitewashes Hamas war crimes …
When?
… and turns a blind eye to the anti-Semitic elements that use it for cover.
How so?
Gf you were a colonialist in Palestine boohooing Apartheid in South Africa? LOL sure thing hypocrisy is NOT embarrassing. But it is shameful.
Thanks, Taxi.
I can’t see how these guys expect to ever win a single point.
They reject reason and the actual definition of words within a given context.
GuiltyFeat,
That was a pointless cheap shot.
It’s not when you acquire your awareness…it’s what you do with it once you get it.
link to mondoweiss.net
Omar Barghouti clearly admitted to Phil Weiss that he prefers a one state solution, but that he cannot make that the formal aim of the movement for fear of being branded as the person who killed the 2SS. Nevertheless, according to Phil’s own words, Barghouti favours the 1ss.
link to bdsmovement.net
This is a search for the term “war crimes” at the bdsmovement.net site. In a world where the Goldstone report, Amnesty, HRW and others carefully reference Hamas war crimes alongside Israel’s war crimes, the BDS movement doesn’t have one mention of them. Whitewash.
As for BDS being an umbrella movement for both serious people and racists check out these links:
link to stormfront.org
link to radioislam.org
– Great site where you’re never more than one click away from proof that the Protocols are real or that the Holocaust was a hoax.
It’s not when you acquire your awareness…it’s what you do with it once you get it.
And yet there’s still that nagging doubt that a politically aware woman such as Annie didn’t notice any of the injustices being perpetrated anywhere in the world until Israel was the one perpetrating them.
I think that’s worth mentioning and I’d love to hear more from Annie about how she managed to “miss” Apartheid.
GF,
I think you mean the One Democratic State Group.
www.odsg.org
gf, quit extrapolating bs to suit your hasbara agenda. what is this team diversion sports? dbg questions me about SA and you play quarterback? i can understand why, it sure as hell beats discussing the jdl doesn’t it?
Omar Barghouti constantly reiterates that 1s is his personal preference, but that BDS is rights- not solution-oriented, and many of its supporters are in fact 2-staters. The movement, as a movement, has never advocated a specific solution.
The reports you mention do note Hamas war crimes (as well they should, considering the mandates of those organisations and the Goldstone mission), but also recognise the fact that there is no equivalence, and that the war crimes (and other crimes associated with the occupation) committed by Israel are far greater. There are many crimes committed against Palestinians – by Palestinians and others – that BDS does not highlight, mention or define as “war crimes”. Its declared objective is not to document all human rights violations in the region, but to engage the international community in the non-violent struggle for Palestinian rights – specifically ending the occupation, granting refugees the ROR and obtaining equal rights for Palestinian Israelis (the 3 greatest violations of human rights and international law). Your initial assertion was that BDS “whitewashes Hamas war crimes”. Your links do not substantiate that assertion.
Your assertion that BDS serves as “an umbrella movement for both serious people and racists” is even more preposterous than your original claim that BDS “turns a blind eye to the anti-Semitic elements that use it for cover”. BDS supports Palestinian rights. If some people support Palestinian rights because they hate Jews, well that’s their problem. Do you have any evidence that the BDS movement appreciates such support or condones its motives in any way? If not, you are merely engaging in smear-tactics that you would reject in a flash were they directed at Israel supporters.
there is nothing to discuss annie, this is a non-story. The real story is how the Palestinians and Israelis react after the UN vote.
How many people have the ‘JDL of France’ recruited? do you have the #s?
“I’m anti the BDS movement which calls for a one-state solution,”
Yeah, because god forbid the Jews might have to respect the human rights of non-Jews. Why, the next thing you know, they might be demanding equality, of all things. Egad!!
GF,
How can you possibly link stormfront, etc. to BDS?
Have you abandoned all professional and sound reasoning standards, completely?
GF you’re a revolting hypocrite for wailing against South African Apartheid while supporting nay COLONIZING Historic Palestine.
A pox on your future.
Did you just link to bdsmovement and storm front in the same post? Google-tweaking, are you?
Facist Anders Breivik
link to en.wikipedia.org
was a Zionist link to goisrael.com
and strong supporter of Israel
link to mfa.gov.il
who favoured the massacre of innocents
link to google.ca
as a means to extremist political ends.
link to en.wikipedia.org
Let Google chew on that for awhile.
didn’t you just call someone a bigot?
I’m trying Taxiyyeh, it’s spreading in our circles but MSM is playing see no evil, hear no evil.
All Palestinians should be armed with cameras especially after September 20th 2011.
Nothing to do with BDS. BDS has never leopard a 1ss.
In a world where the Goldstone report, Amnesty, HRW and others carefully reference Hamas war crimes alongside Israel’s war crimes, the BDS movement doesn’t have one mention of them. Whitewash.
They pale into comparison with Israel’s, so why would they?
Right. So from the guilt by association argument, we can infer that the Norway massacre was a Zionist operation and that all Zionists are religious freaks who believe that think their land title was handed to them by God.
Taking that further, John Hagee said that Hitler was an agent of God and that the anti Christ will be a Jew, so obviously we can assume you are in agreement right GF?
After all, you’re one big umbrella right?
Nothing to do with BDS. BDS has never leopard a 1ss.
In a world where the Goldstone report, Amnesty, HRW and others carefully reference Hamas war crimes alongside Israel’s war crimes, the BDS movement doesn’t have one mention of them. Whitewash.
They pale into comparison with Israel’s, so why would they?
Right. So from the guilt by association argument, we can infer that the Norway massacre was a Zionist operation and that all Zionists are religious freaks who believe that think their land title was handed to them by God.
Taking that further, John Hagee said that Hitler was an agent of God and that the anti Christ will be a Jew, so obviously we can assume you are in agreement right GF?
After all, you’re all one big umbrella group right GF?
I’m guessing you have 20 years on me and I was boycotting South African goods and singing “Free Nelson Mandela” for 10 years before the end of Apartheid.
So I suppose you wouldn’t mind explaining why you thought it was OK to “single out” South Africa for boycott when, according to Desmond Tutu, your own country does the very same thing and worse? After all, its one of your major carps launched repeatedly here, when it comes to boycotting Israel. Do go on. I’m fascinated by your unacknowledge hypocrisy on this issue.
Gee, Annie, you must have an “in” with the moderator, eh?
A very CLOSE in. Had I of drooled such obscenities, the comment would never have been allowed. Funny how that works, eh?
poa, i suppose in your book channeling sluts and reaming it up rectal orifices is all in the same game as using the word fuck. listen up hot shot, you’re barking up the wrong tree. all your insinuation don’t mean shit to me. seriously. so put your tail between your legs where it belongs and get off my friggin ass. comprendo? you have no idea who you are fucking with and i am straight up serious.
you think you know pissed? i’m pissed tonight so don’t get in my way. you are a fly in my areana of pissed off-ness, a fly. i have way bigger fish to fry, do you? try scrolling to the top of this post and tell me, do you? or is your obsession me? get. a. friggin. grip.
LOL poa you’ve been headbutted hard by l’il annie – here’s a box of Kleenex for your nose to occupy.
lol. lil poa doesn’t know shit from shinola. all hells could be breaking loose and his job is taking down….me. shiver me timbers.
I’m still laughing so hard at your above post annie – what a delightful punch-up LOL!
i have my moments ;)
I remember the old days of “Pissed Off America”. A number of us ragged on some of his more outrageous statements as well as his, well, anger. So is POA the same? If so it does look like Annie ripped him a new one.
Hey POA, do not despair, you do have some good instincts. Just come on back and try to control your emotions.
“Jews are descendant of Judah”
I think they have both kingdoms Israel and Judah in mind, not Judah only, the southern part. The two split after King David.
France, eh? Didn’t a few French diplomats get shot by alleged organized criminals in conjunction with Syria? Maybe it is unrelated but I believe there is somebody behind the curtain in charge of all this.
Remember, JDL and ADL are the exact same organization they have too much in common not to be
Remember, JDL and ADL are the exact same organization they have too much in common not to be
Just like Al Qaeda and Hamas are the exact organization.
the hasbaristos are in full swing tonight.
Yeah, but they are only swinging at air.
True or false — JDL and ADL get their funding from the same mechanisms?
False, anybody who has a clue about the Jewish community knows this is true. It is disgusting to say otherwise.
So tell me what’s different about how each gets their funding.
“Just like Al Qaeda and Hamas are the exact organization.”
DBG, looks like you left out the word “exact” to describe “organization” and that would make you wrong. Al Qaeda was a Saudi offshoot parented by the US and Hamas was an Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood offshoot nurtured by Israel. The only thing these organizations have in common is their fundamentalist view of Sunni Islam.
Walid, I was using a poor analogy to try and point out how ridiculous and racist Charon’s statement was.
…except the ADL and JDL are both Jewish institutions with the same agenda.
WOW!
Invitations like that might get Dimatok off his couch and outta his bathrobe. I wonder if he has a holster for his TV remote?
You know you don’t need to speak French to sign up yourself poa, you just need to be able to speak the language of a racist idiot.
Hey, here’s an idea POA.
Let’s all pitch in and buy Witty a ticket to Tel Aviv. I’m sure he can talk them all to sleep about humanizing the other, even if he has to hold his nose the whole time.
>> “a trip [in] solidarity with our Israeli brothers living on the land of our ancestors [in] Judea and Samaria.” <<
Sounds like something you really might warm to, Richard. O I forgot, it says "This trip is for militants with military experience".
Good chance to be a supporter of solidarity though, don't you think? So who or what is "solidarity" to you? O I forgot, shouldn't get you started; sorry folks!
Let's just see if we get it right this time….
wasn’t richard just asking today if anyone had considered ‘RESTRAINT’?
where’s richard? where the f is richard??????
don’t try to wake someone who appears comatose… it doesn’t work…
Annie, a non-robotic translation paints an even uglier picture of what’s to be expected from the cousins:
Militant solidarity trip to Judea and Samaria
The JDL is organizing from the 19th to the 25th September, a trip of solidarity with our Israeli bretheren that are living on the land of our ancestors of Judea and Samaria
This trip is reserved to activists having military experience; the purpose of this expedition is to bring a strong-armed (physical) help to our bretheren facing the Palistinian occupiers’ agression and thereby reinforcing the security apparatus for the Jewish towns of Judea and Samaria.
thank you for the translation walid.
unlike the flytilla something tells me hoards of screaming israelis will not be waiting to greet them at the airport and the state won’t be rounding them up to spend a few days in prison.
Let sleeping dawgs lie, Annie…! ;-)
>> where’s richard? where the f is richard??????
That is a very good question.
Will RW condemn Israeli “dissent” against a Palestinian declaration of statehood? Will he urge Israeli settlers to “humanize ‘the Other’” and to make “better wheels”?
Or – because the declaration of statehood is in the future, and because he only condemns ethnic cleansing in the present – when the time comes will he simply “hold his nose”, approve of the dirty work his sturdier co-collectivists (such as eee) undertake, and “primarily celebrate”?
Inquiring minds want to know… :-)
Okay I know I’m being blocked when I refer to someone’s son in France, but you damn well know I have a point, moderators.
Heck I saw that comment Chaos and I agreed with it. What’s wrong a little cautioning? The situation is dire and the warning therefore is valid.
Funny, when going to the JDL’s homepage for international chapters they don’t list a website and the contact information is not the same the “JDL France” website Annie linked to.
And using Google translate for a hard hitting story is quite amateurish.
Running interference for a Jewish terrorist recruiting campaign will get you in hot water, Denier Beyond Grotesque.
Funny, when going to the JDL’s homepage for international chapters they don’t list a website and the contact information is not the same the “JDL France” website Annie linked to.
yes, it certainly is ‘funny’ that a bunch of knuckle-draggers like the jdl can’t properly run a web site. the email address of the french chapter listed on its main site is the same as the UK chapter, and the link to the regional european office leads to a jewish dating site. so that’s how things work there. in any event, DB, if you have evidence that the french link provided by annie is spurious, let’s have it, otherwise no one gives two f*cks about your slimy insinuations.
And using Google translate for a hard hitting story is quite amateurish.
again, if you have an alternate translation that you believe is more accurate, let’s have it, otherwise no one gives . . . . ..
hey dbg, go moan about it to team shalom. maybe you can get red crayon or blue sox to write a diary about how anti semitic this site is for picking on jdl. that site thrives off little insinuations like yours.
marc b, is correct. The site’s server is GoDaddy Netherlands, while the site itself is registered in the US, more precisely in Scottsdale, Arizona. Maybe someone can contact the Arizona JDF chapter, or more precisely Michael Tuber: arizona.jdl@gmail.com and ask them about their relation to the French chapter, especially if similar recruitment is planned in the US?
Lea you would think that if the french site annie linked to was not associated with the JDL, that a spokesperson would have by now made a statement disassociating the league from the september 3rd call to arms made on the site, or that the JDL legal team would have moved to have the counterfeit site taken down. (it does use the JDL logo, which i assume has copyright protection.)
LOL, ummm it is registered to Domains by Proxy, which is an internet company owned by Go daddy.
well, dbglol, since you are insinuating that there is no connection between the french site linked here and the real JDL, please provide us with the JDL press release dissassociating itself from the fake french site. i mean a bunch of hard guys like the JDL wouldn’t stand for some impersonator speaking in its name, calling on its members to mobilize and head to israel, now would they?
Well, DGB, post 911 I noticed it’s a standard with many hawkish pro-Israel disinformation campaigns, to use anonymity, to not give names and faces. So this doesn’t tell us anything, really.
Much of the material relating to IDF France by the way is censored for me, and I do not have the time OR interest to find out why. For instance this video:
JDL attacked in France by leftists and Muslims
Go figure. Quite a few videos aren’t, though. But there are enough videos about their activities to know they are real.
No idea if I can assume you are patient enough, but here you can take a look at some of their activities. I don’t find their demonstration anymore against the rights of Palestinians in Judea and Samaria, but if you take your time you’ll find it.
Leander, I saw the JDL was attacked in France for carrying an Israeli flag.
i watched some french jdl videos the other day (which is odd because i had no idea of this story or i might have saved them but i can probably find them on my browser history) where they were attacking people. they handed out fliers and then started attacking people who didn’t want them, or something. i wasn’t paying a lot of attention and it was in french but posted on a jdl site and it was their members, the jdl member getting together planning , filming themselves and then going out and assaulting people. it was very odd.
filming themselves and then going out and assaulting people. it was very odd.
that sums up the jdl. it is a clandestine, paramilitary organization which functions (too bad for the analogy) similarly to paramilitary organizations in fascist europe and south america. curiously its name came up in an FBI investigation into the death of tupac shakur when the bureau uncovered evidence that the jdl was extorting money from tupac and other rappers, making death threats and then offering protection in exchange for money.
link to vault.fbi.gov
link to jpost.com
what a swell group of guys. leftists and muslims attacked them in france. jeez. how unfortunate.
care to link to any of these videos annie? the ones which I saw (google it) were of them being beaten up by Muslims for flying the Israeli flag.
I have translate the text to answer to Piotr up in the comments, and I’m NOT a Google translater, check it out, it is as inflamatory as it sound
Ah, so these are the outside agitators and terrorists that the IDF spends so much time worrying about. I expect then, that they will harass them at every opportunity, try to deny them entry, arrest them and deport them. I knew those goddam settlers were too primitive to have ideas or principles of their own, and had no reason to riot and kill.
Will the pogroms be televised? eee? -N49.
Remind me again why it’s OK for foreign nationals to tell security at BG Airport they are going to Kiryat Arba, but not to Bethlehem?
link to mondoweiss.net
Excellent point, Shmuel. I say these mercenaries should be turned back at the border or put in the same cells as the flytilla participants and then deported.
and the ‘flytilla participants’ are analogous to the jdl, how? perhaps you could provide a link to someone, anyone, promoting the ‘flytilla’ who was calling for participants with military experience.
oh. shmuel already said it better, and at greater length below.
I say these mercenaries should be turned back at the border or put in the same cells as the flytilla participants and then deported.
Behayekha, GF.
There is a policy at BG Airport of harassing and even deporting foreign nationals who truthfully state that their destination is a Palestinian town in the WB – regardless of the purpose of their visit.
There is no such policy regarding foreign nationals who say they are headed for a Jewish settlement in the West Bank.
The “flytilla” was a non-violent protest against this discriminatory policy, with the declared intention of enjoying Palestinian hospitality and participating in cultural events organised in their honour. No harm whatsoever would have been caused, were Israel to have allowed them to reach their destination. The Israeli (over-) reaction was in fact hysterical and colossally stupid, and had nothing whatsoever to do with security.
The French JDL trip, on the other hand, seeks participants with “military experience” for the express purpose of entering the WB at a time when violence is expected, in order to take part in that violence.
Do you really see no difference between these two groups, and do you really condone the standing discriminatory policy?
I was trying to agree with you, dude. Whatever draconian measures Israel used on the flytilla members should be the bare minimum for these mercenary morons.
In my opinion the flytilla was completely harmless and should have been ignored, but these idiots should still be locked up.
I’m not equating the two groups. I’m saying that if you treat the harmless one badly, you should treat the dangerous one worse.
Thanks for the clarification, GF.
Way to back-pedal elegantly. You’re getting much better at that.