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Land, property theft & destruction / Ethnic cleansing / Apartheid / Restriction of Movement

Russia Deeply Concerned at New Israeli Settlement Plan
MOSCOW, October 19, 2011 (WAFA) – The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed deep concern at the Israeli government’s plans to build new housing units in East Jerusalem, said a press release issued by the ministry on Monday. “The realization by Israeli authorities of such plans, just like the intention to legalize the many settlement outposts built in occupied Palestinian territories, run absolutely counter to the commitments of the Israeli side under the Roadmap,” said the press release.
http://english.wafa.ps/index.php?action=detail&id=17809

Tokyo- (PanOrient News) The Japanese government today deplored the Israeli Government plan to construct 2,610 new housing units in Givat Hamatos, East Jerusalem, and say that such settlement activities are a violation of international law. A statement issued by the Foreign Ministry in Tokyo said “The fact that the Israeli government is still proceeding with settlement construction, at a time when the international community is urging both Israeli and Palestinian sides to resume direct negotiations for peace, goes against the ongoing efforts by the international community.”
 
Checkpoints in the West Bank
Susan Lourenco – Machsomwatch – How much more will settler violence against Palestinians and plundering of their property increase during this year`s olive harvest? How much more theft of olive crops and damage to trees? And what about the ever increasing “blacklisted,” who find, from one day to the next, that their permits have been nullified by the ever insidious arm of the Civil Administration which does its dirty work behind the scenes, hoping to remain out of sight.
 
Endangered Palestinian village gets int’l media attention– except from the U.S
This is a picture of a Palestinian mayor, Haj Sami Sadeq. Beyond him is the Jordan Valley. Around him are the lands of his village, Al Aqaba. The Israeli army bulldozed the road to his village on Sept. 15, 2 weeks before I shot this picture– trying to cut his village off from the rest of the world. Despite the fact that the entire village is under Israeli demolition orders, despite the fact that Haj Sami is in a wheelchair because he was crippled by the Israeli army when he was 16 years old and just walking on his family lands, despite the fact that his village is not even allowed to drill for water and the people have been slowly leaving this starved place– the mayor believes in peace. Here is the mural on the wall of his school.
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/10/endangered-palestinian-village-gets-intl-media-attention-except-from-the-u-s.html

Plumbing the Depths of Deception:Naomi Scola Ignores the H2Occupation of Palestine, by Nima Shirazi
Among the ways Scola describes Israel’s victory over water scarcity through “a variety of technologies to try to squeeze the maximum possible water from dry land” are “projects focused on water reclamation — that is, using treated waste water, including sewage, to irrigate, cool, or in manufacturing processes.”  What Scola omits – and considering she devotes considerable space (nearly 2,000 words) to this issue, the omission can not be anything but willful and deliberate – is Palestine. In fact, the word itself is never uttered once in the entire article, nor is the 44-year occupation and blockade that controls their lives each and every day.
http://www.wideasleepinamerica.com/2011/10/plumbing-depths-of-deception-naomi.html

In Photos: The survival of olives
The olive harvest started in theWest Bankin early October and will continue in some villages until mid-November.  Olives have been cultivated in Palestinian land for thousands of years.  Around 95% of the harvest is used to make olive oil, with the remainder for pickles, table olives, and soap.  The harvest is worth around 364m shekels (£64m) a year to the fragile Palestinian economy, struggling under the burden of occupation.  Up to 100,000 families depend upon the olive harvest for their livelihoods to some extent, according to the UN.
http://palsolidarity.org/2011/10/in-photos-the-survival-of-olives/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+palsolidarity+%28International+Solidarity+Movement%29

Gaza

HRW: Lift blockade after prisoner exchange
BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) — Israel and Hamas should follow the prisoner exchange with measures to improve human rights, such as by lifting the siege of Gaza, Human Rights Watch said Tuesday. “The prisoner exchange between Israel and Hamas should mark the beginning of an era in which all parties respect basic rights,” said Joe Stork, deputy Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. In a statement, Stork said that “Gaza’s civilians should no longer suffer under Israel’s punitive blockade, and Hamas should end abuses of detainees, whether Israeli or Palestinian.”
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=430462

Israeli Violence Against Palestinian, Past and Present

Jewish settler throws chemical material on Palestinian youth
A Jewish settlers threw an unknown chemical material on the face of a Palestinian youth in Hawara village, south of Nablus, on Wednesday, his family said.
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s7BFpoIMnNUhnUZDq%2b9Aua3kp2F%2fMSY%2fc%2bA6qlNaSfP3vMU%2fV3ALQtBD2e27ia5yevbI71zwbId%2bzutdU6F%2bcDwZkw3uGPiGmTqKijGQognNc%3d

Child abducted by settler and turned over to officials
A 10-year old boy was abducted from Abu Tur neighborhood by a settler yesterday, Monday 17 October. Muhammad al-Khaseeb was taken from the front of his preparatory school by a man said to be a manager in the Elad settler association. Khaseeb was physically assaulted by the settler and a Palestinian man connected to the settler.   Silwanic uncovered the abduction yesterday and Khaseeb was eventually returned home to his parents. Details of the attack to be published tomorrow.
http://silwanic.net/?p=21250

Rewards are offered by Israelis for murdering ex-prisoners
Reports from Israel allege that large financial rewards are being offered for anyone who murders some of the ex-prisoners freed as part of the exchange deal struck between the Israeli government and Hamas. The Israeli media claims that a number of radical Jews who lost family members in attacks by Palestinians resisting Israel’s military occupation have announced the formation of “Eye for an Eye”, an organisation with the objective of hunting down and murdering former Palestinian prisoners.
http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/news/middle-east/2970-rewards-are-offered-by-israelis-for-murdering-ex-prisoners

Palestinians with Israeli citizenship continue to mourn family and community members who were killed by Israeli police in October 2000, and demand accountability from Palestinian political leaders.

Palestinian Child Political Detainees

ISRAEL-OPT: Concerns over Palestinian children in Israeli custody
GAZA CITY 19 October 2011 (IRIN) – While there have been emotional scenes after the release of 477 Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails, concerns are being raised about the plight of 164 Palestinian children from the West Bank in Israeli custody.
http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?ReportId=94013

Political Detainees

Israeli Forces Arrest 44-Year-Old in Beit Omar, Search Homes in Yatta
Israeli forces arrested one Palestinian from Beit Omar, north of Hebron in the southern West Bank, during nightly raids concluding on Wednesday morning. The spokesman of the Popular Committee Against the Wall and Settlements in Beit Omar told Palestinian government news wire Wafa that soldiers arrested 44-year-old Ahmed Khader Abu Hashem in Beit Omar, searched his house, and confiscated three computers. He was taken to an unknown location. Soldiers also searched the homes of Imad Ahmed Abu Hashem and Imad Ramzi Sabarneh and “caused a mess” but made no arrests.
Wafa also quoted a “secure source” saying Israeli forces raided the town of Yatta as well, searching the homes of Mahmoud Khalil Rasheed, Mahmoud Younis Haroush and Mahmoud Ibrahim Abu Ali. Israeli troops also erected checkpoints at the entrances of Sa’eer, Halhoul and al-Fawar refugee camp, stopping cars and checking IDs.
http://english.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10774&Itemid=64

Resident Kidnapped In Hebron
Israeli soldiers kidnapped a Palestinian resident from the southern West Bank city of Hebron while heading to the Israeli Liaison Office on Thursday morning, and moved him to an unknown destination, the Palestinian News & Info Agency reported.
http://www.imemc.org/article/62325

Support Imprisoned PSP Organizer Participating in Mass Hunger Strike
Majde Za’aqiq, a 38-year-old school teacher from Beit Ommar and a long-time member of both the Palestine Solidarity Project and the Center for Freedom and Justice, has been imprisoned by the Israeli Authorities for nearly two months and is currently hunger striking against inhumane prison conditions. The mass hunger strike, now in its third week, has seen the participation of hundreds of Palestinian political prisoners in multiple prisons. The strikers are demanding an improvement in their conditions, including the ending the use of solitary confinement by Israeli Authorities to isolate and break the spirits of the prisoners.
http://palestinesolidarityproject.org/2011/10/19/support-imprisoned-psp-organizer-participating-in-mass-hunger-strike/

Prisoner Swap

Abbas: Israel Promised to Release More Prisoners (Time.com)
Time.com – In an interview with TIME, the head of the Palestinian Authority recalls an earlier promise by a previous Israeli prime minister — and he wants Netanyahu to keep it.
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/mideast/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20111019/wl_time/08599209732000

Aruri: Nine women will be freed soon from Israeli jails
Senior Hamas official in charge of prisoners’ file Salah Al-Aruri said the remaining nine female prisoners would be freed from Israeli jails within days.
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s7EqJzTbFe%2bBOc93dpBoUP3qe8YHHo%2flOPOYI7E8hSBUE3IoFdElNAj9I6PdfNTfRU87RUiTxZlwmmngTt%2b%2fg4QsJjymBRTOIExex02wWuopo%3d

Sub: Israel will release a further 550 prisoners in the second phase of the exchange for Gilad Shalit.
 

Abu Obaida Provides Details On The 2nd Phase of Swap Deal
Abu Obaida, spokesperson of the Al Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, stated that the second phase of the prisoner-swap deal will include the release of security detainees who are old, and sick, in addition to several detainees sentenced to 20 years of more.

 

Hamas leader: Shalit deal turning point in struggle against Israel
Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh says deal in which prisoners from all factions released is testimony to Hamas dedication to entire Palestinian people.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hamas-leader-shalit-deal-turning-point-in-struggle-against-israel-1.390843?localLinksEnabled=false

Shalit deal throws Hamas a lifeline
Swap deal that freed abducted soldier Gilad Shalit in exchange for 1,027 Palestinian prisoners is first significant achievement for Hamas since Gaza government established in 2006.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/shalit-deal-throws-hamas-a-lifeline-1.390862?localLinksEnabled=false

 
Hamas PM offers support to prisoners relocated to Gaza; 15 prisoners arrive in Syria, 11 in Turkey, 1 in Jordan, and an unknown number in Qatar.

http://www.jpost.com/VideoArticles/Video/Article.aspx?id=242402

Samir Kuntar’s Message to Prisoners Remaining in Israeli Jails
One of the longest serving and highly visible former prisoners in Israeli jails, Samir Kuntar, shares with al-Akhbar his reaction to the latest prisoner swap between Hamas and Israel. The joy shared by the prisoners freed in Tuesday’s exchange may only be describable by those who have experienced captivity like Samir Kuntar. A Lebanese fighter who was passionately dedicated to the Palestinian resistance, Kuntar entered Israeli prisons as a teenager and emerged in 2008 as a man after having spent 29 years in prison. Kuntar refuses to use the word “deal” to describe the recent prisoners exchange between Israel and Hamas, because that word is used when speaking about business, and not about human beings. He says Tuesday’s exchange occurred at the time it did because conditions were ripe on both sides. He calls the operation that captured Shalit a great achievement for the resistance, because it was the first of its kind to take place inside Occupied Palestine. He points out that Gilad Shalit was under indirect control of the Israeli occupation, but the Israelis could not secure his release. Moreover, the resistance was able to hold him for more than five years.
 
Palestinians who killed for a cause return to a changed battlefield
Released prisoners divided over passion and stomach for armed conflict as they see their brethren gambling on diplomacy. Since the day Wafa al-Bess failed to blow herself apart at an Israeli military post she has not relented in her personal struggle against the Jewish state. Sentenced to 12 years in prison for the attempted suicide bombing on the edge of the Gaza Strip, she agitated her jailers – going on hunger strike against a prison uniform, organising protests for the rights of detainees – until she was thrown into solitary confinement for months at a time.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/19/palestinians-killed-cause-changed-battlefield

For Palestinians released in Gilad Shalit prisoner swap, freedom is relative
The roughly 100 former Palestinian prisoners who were released to the West Bank and East Jerusalem in the Gilad Shalit deal are out of prison, but still don’t walk entirely free.
http://rss.csmonitor.com/%7Er/feeds/world/%7E3/vHmC7ij6TuE/For-Palestinians-released-in-Gilad-Shalit-prisoner-swap-freedom-is-relative

The Prisoners & Their Families

“My husband was kidnapped by Israel”
Salama Mesleh was sentenced to 99 years in prison by Israel; he is not being released as part of the “swap” deal.
http://electronicintifada.net/content/my-husband-was-kidnapped-israel/10504?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+electronicIntifadaPalestine+%28Electronic+Intifada+%3A+Palestine+News%29#.TqArFHIRSBM

Freed prisoner reflects on decades spent in jail
RAMALLAH (Reuters) — Nael Barghouti, released on Tuesday after more than 33 years in an Israeli jail, says he never gave up hope of being freed. “From the first day I was detained, I always expected I would released, that one day, someone would work to free me. Politics failed in setting us free, but another policy realized our liberation,” Barghouti told Reuters Television on Wednesday.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=431057

Released Prisoner Continues on Hunger Strike
GAZA, October 18, 2011 (WAFA) – The health of released prisoner Wafa al-Bis deteriorated Tuesday requiring her transport to hospital in Gaza, according to WAFA correspondent. He said Bis insisted to continue with the hunger strike Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails had started on September 27 demanding end to solitary confinement and improvement in prison conditions. Some of the striking prisoners suspended their hunger strike following the release of 1027 prisoners from Israeli jails on Tuesday, but others apparently continued with it.
http://english.wafa.ps/index.php?action=detail&id=17806

Freed Prisoner Christian al-Bandak’s Date with the Sea
Two days ago, Christian al-Bandak left his cell, saw the sunlight and the sea and smelled the air, his first breath of freedom after nine years in Israeli military prison. He left a dark, small room smelling of sardines to meet the Mediterranean Sea. Al-Bandak, who hails from Bethlehem and has been imprisoned since 2003 with four life sentences, said it was like thunder when the jailer came in and told the prisoners about the decision to release some of them in two days.  “Until now I still can’t believe what happened,” Christian told PNN by phone. “We watched the news in prison and we saw our names on the list, but then we heard that it was not the final list or an unofficial list. We couldn’t handle our joy when we heard about our freedom.”
http://english.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10777

Ahlam al-Tamimi arrives in Amman to a hero’s welcome
Freed Jordanian captive Ahlam al-Tamimi arrived Tuesday night to a hero’s welcome as hundreds of Palestinians and Jordanians waited for her arrival at Queen Alia Airport in Amman.

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s7O%2bLsGgCeR9i3PxewGXrCm73iwOB8t7Uc7C75u6JbvxbQnH9%2bcQhjmZMv1vHzLR6W8f6%2f0q%2fLwOAw1e4liT4%2fNqHuCd0b8CKyRUSXLOOsvb4%3d

East Jerusalem welcomes 16 released prisoners
“It’s really good they’re being released, but I think there will immediately be two or three more Schalits,” says Fatah member., Ecstatic crowds stood for hours in the heat and sun on Tuesday morning in the east Jerusalem neighborhood of Isawiya to greet the 16 prisoners released there in the prisoner swap exchange., Crowds began gathering at 8 a.m., after the 16 prisoners were transferred from Ofer prison near Ramallah to Mezudat Adumim, the border police headquarters near Jerusalem, and waited tensely for more than four hours for the prisoners to be released.
http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=242370

VIDEO: Freed Palestinians enjoy freedom
Hundreds of former Palestinian prisoners have been enjoying their first full day of freedom since being released in exchange for the captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-15378726

A mother’s story: Om Fares
The prisoners’ families make sure not to miss any day of the weekly protest so the number of the people inside the Red Cross is more than usual on Mondays. Therefore, one should expect to see lots of tears and hear lots of tragedies, especially after the names of the soon-to-be released prisoners were declared. As I entered the Red Cross this Monday, an old lady was sitting in a corner, hardly noticeable. She was putting her hand on her cheeks, closing her eyes and saying nothing. The wrinkles on her face, with expressions of sorrow and burdens and the broken glasses of the picture she was holding, directed my steps toward her.
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/10/a-mothers-story-om-fares.html

Mother still restricted from visiting son after his release from prison
Israel is deporting more than 140 released Palestinian prisoners to Gaza permanently, despite many being from Jerusalem and elsewhere in the occupied West Bank. Their families, therefore, remain unable to see their loved ones.
http://electronicintifada.net/content/mother-still-restricted-visiting-son-after-his-release-prison/10502?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+electronicIntifadaPalestine+%28Electronic+Intifada+%3A+Palestine+News%29#.Tp8gM3IRSBM

Celebrations

Prisoners Exchange Celebrations Extend to Palestinian Refugee Camps
Celebrations of the release of 1,027 Palestinian prisoners on Tuesday were not restricted to Gaza and the West bank. Many in Lebanon’s Palestinian refugee camps woke up early to watch live coverage of the festivities and put on their own performances, while lamenting their exile and the lot of those remaining behind bars.
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/prisoners-exchange-celebrations-extend-palestinian-refugee-camps?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AlAkhbarEnglish+%28Al+Akhbar+English%29

Palestine prisoner returns to hero’s welcome
Samud Karaja, one of the hundreds of Palestinian prisoners released in the Gilad Shalit exchange agreement brokered with Israel, has arrived home to a hero’s welcome. Two years ago, Karaja was 21-years old when an Israeli court sentenced her to 20 years in jail for stabbing an Israeli soldier at a checkpoint. On leaving prison, she was threatened with more jail time if she said anything to the media that would provoke attacks against Israel. Al Jazeera’s Charles Stratford reports from the occupied West Bank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOa40mg5_yM&feature=youtube_gdata

Palestinians unite to welcome political prisoners home
On Tuesday, tens of thousands of Palestinians gathered in Gaza City’s Al-Katiba Park to celebrate the return of more than 400 Palestinian political prisoners released by Israel in return for captive soldier Gilad Shalit. The prisoners who were sent to Gaza, 334 of them, entered the Strip via Egypt at the Rafah crossing. While their families waited in keen anticipation, with some not having seen their loved ones free for almost three decades, busloads of the prisoners entered Palestine wearing sashes, waving in jubilation. They were met by senior members of the Hamas-led government, including Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh and Deputy Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council Dr. Ahmed Bahr.
http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/news/middle-east/2961-palestinians-unite-to-welcome-political-prisoners-home

Festival of Victory and Triumph: Families in Gaza welcome return of prisoners
Thousands of Palestinians gathered in Gaza City’s Qatiba Square yesterday morning, swelling to over 200,000 as news arrived that the prisoners had safely crossed the border from Egypt into Rafah.  ISM volunteers waited for hours with local families eager to catch a glimpse of the former prisoners as they exited their buses. “This is the best day of my life because today, good defeated evil,” said 45-year-old Saleem Abu Sa’ada.  “For us, we want all the prisoners to be free,” he added.  Qatiba Sqaure, a large sandy plaza, took on a festive atmosphere as women, men and children waved Palestinian flags, as well as flags of the various political parties. On the street, vendors sold juice, tea, coffee, bread as well as Palestinian flags.
http://palsolidarity.org/2011/10/festival-of-victory-and-triumph-families-in-gaza-welcome-return-of-prisoners/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+palsolidarity+%28International+Solidarity+Movement%29

In Pictures: Hebron Greets Return of Palestinian Prisoners
In the southern West Bank city of Hebron, a crowd of thousands gathered to greet the 30 Hebron-area prisoners released in today’s historic prisoner swap between Israel and Hamas.
http://english.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10770&Itemid=68

 
Palestinian Prisoners Homecoming: The Road to Freedom
Tuesday marked the first phase of the prisoner exchange between Hamas and Israel. Of a total of 1,027 Palestinians to be released, 477 were freed today, in exchange for the Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, who has been in captivity since 2006. Around 300 of the 477 freed from Israeli jails headed to Gaza and were greeted by their loved ones. Close to 130 others were freed in Ramallah, the West Bank. The second phase of the trade will be carried out in the coming two months, when the remaining 550 detained Palestinians will be freed.
http://english.al-akhbar.com/photoblogs/palestinian-prisoners-homecoming-road-freedom?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AlAkhbarEnglish+%28Al+Akhbar+English%29

Discrimination / Racism

Palestinian citizens of Israel are second class citizens, even in the Prague airport, Ruth Bronstein
I’ll never forget my trip to Prague about a week ago, unfortunately not because Prague is so beautiful, it actually is an amazing place to travel to and tour around for a week, but because of the traumatic expereince at the airport. A brief acquintance on the way with two normal and educated young Israeli “Technion” (a highly acclaimed technical institute) graduates gave us the perfect option to share a cab, as well as pleasant companionship. Everything was wonderful – yes, it is possible for Israelis of Jewish and Arab origins, Muslim or Christian to get along and feel great together, despite those dark forces of evil, that made us realize the huge gap between us. These young people were abused – their non-Jewish name caused them awful damage and awful treatment at the airport.
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/10/palestinian-citizens-of-israel-are-second-class-citizens-even-in-the-prague-airport.html

Rachel Abrams says Palestinian children are ‘devils’ spawn’– while Israeli children play with Transformers and draw your heart strings
Eli Clifton reports on Rachel Abrams,wife of Elliott Abrams: “Emergency Committee For Israel Board Member Calls Palestinians ‘Savages,’ ‘Unmanned Animals,’ ‘Food For Sharks’” Based on Rachel Abrams’s yawp. Be attuned to all the racism here amid the Joycean punctuation…
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/10/rachel-abrams-says-palestinian-children-are-devils-spawn-while-israeli-children-play-with-tranformers-and-draw-your-heart-strings.html

Boycott!

Israel in talks to buy gas from Qatar – report
Egypt’s “Youm7″ reports that Qatar will sell liquid natural gas to Israel to be stored in an offshore floating terminal. The Qatari government is holding negotiations to sell liquid natural gas (LNG) to Israel, the Egyptian newspaper “Youm7″ reported today. “Youm7″ added that according to sources Israel is making preparations to receive Qatari LNG carriers, including the construction of large capacity tanks. The paper observed that Qatar recently expanded its production of LNG, and it intends to increase its natural gas development projects. Total annual liquid gas production in Qatar, “Youm7″ said, recently reached 10 million tons, and it is expected to increase to 12 million tons by 2015.
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000690618

Political Developments / Diplomacy

Time not ripe for Israeli-Palestinian talks: Fayyad (Reuters)
Reuters – The time is not right for meaningful Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad said on Wednesday, saying they are only likely to produce a blame game rather than a settlement.
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/mideast/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20111020/pl_nm/us_palestinians_israel_fayyad

Fatah And Hamas Call For National Reconciliation
The Fatah movement in the Gaza strip expressed its hope in achieving national unity and reconciliation, by ending the split between themselves and Hamas, after the release of many Palestinian leaders, figures and symbols.
http://www.imemc.org/article/62319

Mashal Calls On Abbas To Implement National Unity Agreement
Khaled Mashal, head of the Hamas Movement’s political Bureau in Damascus, called on President Mahmoud Abbas on Tuesday, to hold a meeting with Hamas in Cairo next week. The object of such a meet is to conclude all outstanding issues, which are delaying the full implementation of the Palestinian reconciliation agreement.
http://www.imemc.org/article/62314

Foreign Minister calls on Palestinians to complete national reconciliation
Egypt’s Foreign Minister has called on a Palestinians to make a breakthrough and complete national reconciliation. In a meeting in Cairo on Tuesday, Minister Mohamed Amr was presented with a draft document setting out ideas on how to move forward with the implementation of the reconciliation agreement by a group from the Palestinian Informal Dialogue Project, sponsored by Finland’s Crisis Management Initiative.
http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/news/middle-east/2960-foreign-minister-calls-on-palestinians-to-complete-national-reconciliation

Israel Will Not Permit Prisoner Exchange to Pave Way for Negotiations, Reconciliation
An exchange of prisoners may signal the beginning of a reconciliation process between conflicting parties, or at least a transformation toward a path of reconciliation. This has not happened with yesterday’s exchange of the Israeli soldier held by Hamas, Gilad Shalit, and over a thousand Palestinian prisoners captured by Israel.
http://www.alternativenews.org/english/index.php/topics/israeli-society/3853-israel-will-not-permit-prisoner-exchange-to-pave-way-for-negotiations-reconciliation

Abbas Receives Call from Colombia’s President
RAMALLAH, October 19, 2011 (WAFA) – Colombian President Juan Manual Santos telephoned President Mahmoud Abbas on Wednesday and the two leaders discussed bilateral relations and the peace process. Abbas, who had received on Tuesday at his Ramallah office Colombia’s Foreign Minister Maria Angela Holguin, has visited Colombia two weeks ago in a bid to convince its president to vote at the United Nations Security Council in favor of Palestine’s UN membership bid. Colombia is a nonpermanent member state of the Security Council and its vote is essential in getting the Security Council to vote on the application request. The United States opposes the Palestinian effort and has said it would veto it if comes up to a vote. The Palestinians need at least nine votes in favor of the bid for the Security Council to have an  official vote on it.
http://english.wafa.ps/index.php?action=detail&id=17817

Palestinian Teachers Return to Schools in Libya
On Wednesday, the Minister of Education of the National Transitional Council of Libya Sulaiman Ali al-Saheli confirmed that the Council will allow Palestinian teachers to return to Libya and get their jobs back. Al-Saheli told Palestinian government news wire Wafa, “Some administrators tried to implement this decision selectively, excluding a number of teachers who were due to return”. “Whoever stands against the decision to bring back all the teachers removed from their posts in 2007 will be legally accountable,” said al-Saheli. “Palestinian teachers have a big role is raising the education level in Libya and their return to schools is a national duty.”  Libyan Teachers Union Secretary Mohammed Ghazi al-Ayaseh said that almost 240 teachers from Benghazi and 200 others from al-Bayda will benefit from this decision. He said the list would only exclude those who had reached retirement age.
http://english.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10775&Itemid=72

Other Mideast News

Iraqi mass graves still hold half a million unidentified corpses
The number of corpses in Iraqi mass graves is so huge that it is beyond the capacity of one single body to handle, an Iraqi minister said. Minister of Human Rights Mohammed al-Sudani said it was wrong to leave hundreds of thousands of Iraqi dead bodies lying in the country’s mass graves to their fate. “The responsibility for the human rights file should not be shouldered by (my) ministry only. It is a joint responsibility in which judicial, executive and legislative powers as well as civil society organizations must bear together,” Sudani said. “There are 500,000 corpses still waiting to be properly uncovered and identified,” Sudani added. The issue of mass graves was given priority in the immediate aftermath of the downfall of the former regime of Saddam Hussein in 2003.
http://www.azzaman.com/english/index.asp?fname=news\2011-10-19\kurd.htm

Arms trade to Middle East and North Africa shows failure of export controls
A number of key arms manufacturing countries supplied large quantities of weapons to repressive governments in the Middle East and North Africa. The USA, Russia and European countries supplied large quantities of weapons to repressive governments in the Middle East and North Africa before this year’s uprisings despite having evidence of a substantial risk that they could be used to commit serious human rights violations, Amnesty International said today in a new report.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/arms-trade-middle-east-and-north-africa-shows-failure-export-controls-2011-1

Bahrain panel delays report on protest unrest (AP)
AP – An independent fact-finding commission in Bahrain says it needs more time to review thousands of personal accounts and official documents as it probes alleged abuses during unrest between Shiite-led protesters and the kingdom’s Sunni rulers.
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/mideast/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20111020/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_bahrain

VIDEO: Bahrain poised for rights report
After eight months of clashes that have claimed close to 40 lives, the Gulf kingdom of Bahrain is bracing itself for the findings of a major investigation into alleged human rights abuses, including torture.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-15360914

State Dept. cites inquiry in Bahrain arms sales
AP – The State Department said Tuesday it will consider a special investigation of alleged human rights abuses in Bahrain before moving ahead with $53 million in arms sales to the violence-wracked nation.
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/mideast/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20111018/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_bahrain

Fears for Bahraini teacher after pre-dawn arrest
More than 30 security officials dragged Bahraini teacher and activist Jalila al-Salman from her home early this morning. There are fears for the safety of a former vice-president of the Bahrain Teacher’s Association after she was arrested in heavy-handed fashion before dawn this morning after recently speaking out about earlier abuses.Jalila al-Salman was taken from her home in Bahrain by a force of more than 30 security officials, including riot police, who arrived in seven vehicles. The officials reportedly said that they were enforcing a court order for her arrest though they refused to produce a formal arrest warrant.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/fears-bahraini-teacher-after-pre-dawn-arrest-2011-10-18

Bahrain arms deal moves closer to completion
US state department says it will move forward with a plan to sell $53m worth of weapons, despite concerns.
http://english.aljazeera.net//news/middleeast/2011/10/2011101816317654564.html

Saudi “alternative penalties” draft law to cut prisoners’ numbers to half
“Alternative penalties” is a new draft law that aims at limiting the number of prisoners in Saudi through devising other punishments that do not involve being physically present inside the prison.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/10/18/172467.html

The Lede Blog: Saudi Video Blogger Reportedly Detained for Showing Poverty in Riyadh
A popular Saudi video blogger was detained this week, along with his crew, after his report on poverty in the kingdom’s capital, Riyadh, was viewed hundreds of thousands of times on YouTube, human rights activists said.
http://feeds.nytimes.com/click.phdo?i=c5498594660ceeb250ad91d946886877

“Poverty in Saudi Arabia” Short Documentary and Carlos Latuff’s Take on Filmmaker’s Arrest
The below cartoon is by Carlos Latuff and depicts the recent arrest in Saudi Arabia of Firas Buqnah and his film team. Firas and his associates recently produced a short documentary film highlighting poverty in Saudi Arabia. Its release was responded with the arrest of Firas and his team by Saudi authorities. The film, entitled “Mal’ub ‘Alayna,” can be viewed below the cartoon.
http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/2901/poverty-in-saudi-arabia-short-documentary-and-carl

 
Mother of Killed Coptic Activist: My Son Was Fighting for Freedom
Nadia Beshara recounts to al-Akhbar the harrowing experience of her son’s death at the Maspero massacre, her disillusionment with the armed forces and renewed faith in the need for change. Nadia Beshara, like most southern Egyptians, believes it is wrong to accept condolences for her son’s murder before his soul is avenged. Beshara is the mother of Mina Daniel, the Egyptian blogger and activist who was killed on October 9 in front of the Egyptian television building. In his will, he requested that his body be wrapped in the Egyptian flag and carried through Tahrir Square. The martyr’s mother, as she prefers to be called, is from Upper Egypt. There, under a merciless sun and in the midst of severe poverty, she came to the early realization that life is cruel. But her harsh environment shaped her character into one of love and charity, strength and freedom.
Egypt protesters post their wills on Twitter, Facebook
Anticipating more military violence after the killings of Coptic Christians, protesters show their determination to remain defiant to the end. In keystroke bursts of poetry, defiance and humor, Egyptian activists are posting their wills on Twitter.
http://feeds.latimes.com/%7Er/latimes/middleeast/%7E3/xsqgoxwtxY4/la-fg-egypt-twitter-wills-20111019,0,1466923.story

Anti-Corruption Conference Attacked in Jordan
Pro-regime forces in Jordan attack participants and journalists at an anti-corruption conference, amid an increasingly repressive political climate. Tribal members in the village of Salhoub in northern Jordan organized a conference titled “Corruption is the Height of Extremism” on October 15. Thugs attacked the conference, firing shots that resulted in injuries among participants. They also broke equipment belonging to journalists in attendance.
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/anti-corruption-conference-attacked-jordan?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AlAkhbarEnglish+%28Al+Akhbar+English%29

 

Nobel laureate’s call to prosecute Saleh
The Yemeni Nobel peace laureate Tawakul Karman has made an impassioned plea at the United Nations to repudiate a plan that would grant immunity to her country’s “war criminal” President.

 
Yemen president seeks guarantees on exit
Saleh says he will sign GCC peace deal, but only if unspecified guarantees are provided by the US, EU and Gulf states.

http://english.aljazeera.net//news/middleeast/2011/10/2011101919339964119.html

Fleeing Syrians refused refugee status
Syrians fleeing the military crackdown are finding it hard to re-settle in neighbouring Jordan. Many have family ties there, but the government is refusing to recognise them as refugees. Al Jazeera’s Jane Arraf reports from the capital Amman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQLOKKH2Qws&feature=youtube_gdata
 

Syria: Another Massive Pro-Government Demonstration That You Won’t See in Corporate Media
http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011/syria191011.html

 
What is Happening in Syria?, As’ad AbuKhalil
It is getting more and more difficult to get news out of Syria. The propaganda war between the Saudi-Qatari camp and the Syrian regime camp has been intensifying. There is little news in what they release. Syrian regime TV lives in a fantasy world: camera crews find a handful of tourists from Europe, often inebriated, who insist on camera that Syrian cities and towns are all peaceful and that the news about killings in Syria are sinister rumors. The rhetoric of the regime (very much like Saddam’s rhetoric after 1990—it must be a Ba`thist thing when the regime seems on its way down) is getting more and more nationalistic (in the narrow qutri or provincial sense which was alien to the Ba`thist Arab nationalist ideology in its heydays). Syrian political rhetoric about Syria is almost mimicking the vulgar Lebanese nationalist rhetoric of March 14 movement in Lebanon. Dunya TV, presumably owned by the Makhlufs, is a notch more effective as a propaganda tool: it uses sarcasm and humor—two qualities that have historically been frowned upon in the Ba`thist media of Syria and Iraq.

http://english.al-akhbar.com/blogs/angry-corner/what-happening-syria?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AlAkhbarEnglish+%28Al+Akhbar+English%29

 
U.S. / Saudi / Israeli Plot Against Iran

Talk to Al Jazeera – Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
The Iranian president talks to Al JAzeera’s Tony Harris about the latest diplomatic spat with the US and Saudi Arabia, the Arab spring, and Iranian politics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOTNlYPbxxw&feature=youtube_gdata

Iran Says Saudi Plot Defendant Belongs to Exile Group
Iran injected a new argument into its rebuttal of American allegations that its operatives plotted to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to Washington.
http://feeds.nytimes.com/click.phdo?i=15bd53395f839e1349dd550ea060c353

Significant Holes in U.S. Legal Case Against Alleged Iran Plotter
“But we don’t yet understand why a man arrested — purportedly for an assassination attempt — waived his right to a lawyer and within hours started to give the government all the evidence it needed to fill in any gaps in their case. His cooperation is all the more curious given that four of the five charges against him (the fifth is using interstate commerce to arrange a murder for hire) are conspiracy charges that probably couldn’t have been charged before Arbabsiar implicated Shakuri. The government surely could have charged him with other things, such as wire fraud, without the conspiracy charges. So why would Arbabsiar provide the evidence for four new charges against him that could put himself in prison for life?
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/10/significant-holes-in-us-legal-case-against-alleged-iran-plotter/246780/

Saudi ambassador assassination plot suspect linked to Hezbollah and Bahrain unrest
The details of the assassination plot against the Saudi ambassador in the United States have always been intriguing but as more details unravel, the case gets more interesting.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/10/19/172590.html

Iran Alleges Saudi Plot Story is MEK Sting
alleges that it learned from Interpol that Gholam Shakuri is a member of the People’s Holy Jihadis guerrilla group (the Mojahedin-e Khalq or MEK). The MEK wants to see the rule of the ayatollahs in Iran overthrown. Shakuri is the second person named in the Department of Justice case that holds that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) was involved with expatriate Manssor Arbabsiar in a plot to blow up the Saudi Ambassador in Washington.
http://www.juancole.com/2011/10/iran-alleges-saudi-plot-story-is-mek-sting.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+juancole%2Fymbn+%28Informed+Comment%29

Former Mujahadeen Khalq Leader Confirms Alleged Iran Terror Plot Conspirator Affiliated with MEK, Richard Silverstein
You’ll recall that the the U.S. claimed that the Iranian alleged conspirator in the terror plot against the Saudi ambassador, Gholam Shakuri, was a Revolutionary Guard (IRG) official.  Though many Iranians have scoured every resource they could think of, none have found evidence of such a person with any IRG affiliation.  If the U.S. has such evidence it ought to produce it if it wants to be believed.  Yesterday, the well-placed Alef site, run by an Iranian majlis member who’s run for president twice, alleged that Shakuri is in fact a high level Mujahadeen al Khalq (MEK) leader.  It offered evidence to support the charge.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2011/10/19/former-mek-leader-confirms-alleged-terror-plot-conspirator-was-affiliated/

Losing Another Opportunity for Nuclear Diplomacy with the Islamic Republic of Iran
Yesterday, Flynt did an interview with the nationally-syndicated Antiwar Radio on the diplomacy surrounding the possibility of some sort of fuel “swap” arrangement for refueling the Tehran Research Reactor (TRR).  You can listen to the interview here.
http://www.raceforiran.com/losing-another-opportunity-for-nuclear-diplomacy-with-the-islamic-republic-of-iran

Hawks Behind Iraq War Rally for War With Iran
Key neoconservatives and other right-wing hawks who championed the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq are calling for military strikes against Iran in retaliation for its purported murder-for-hire plot against the Saudi ambassador.
http://original.antiwar.com/lobe/2011/10/18/hawks-behind-iraq-war-rally-for-war-with-iran/

The Alleged Saudi Envoy Assassination Plot: Mossad at Work
Despite its evidently make-believe facade, the cooked-up story of the Saudi envoy assassination plot does not seem to be something which can be easily banished from the minds of the American powers that be. The heat over Iran in the US government is growing rapidly. Some Republican congressmen have expressed their interest in waging an all-out war against Iran, a threat they keep refreshing every time they have an excuse. They have clearly stated that Washington should not dismiss the idea of resorting to military force against Iran, an idea which is being strengthened in Congress. “I don’t think you should take it off the table,” Michigan Representative Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, has said.
http://palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=17185

Fox-Werrity UK Scandal Exposes Meeting With Mossad Chief and New Wealthy Pro-Israel Donor, Richard Silverstein
The Daily Telegraph added some tantalizing new details to its reporting on the Liam Fox-Adam Werrity case.  Fox, you’ll recall resigned last week as defense minister in the Tory led government.  He had allowed a close personal friend to masquerade as a trusted aide in meetings around the world.  All the while the friend, Werrity seemed to be carrying on his own personal freelance foreign policy that included, among other things, attempting to topple the Iranian regime à la Michael Ledeen.  The difference is that Werrity actually had entre to the British political élite, while Ledeen seems to be a wannabe warrior long removed from his days of influence during the Reagan era.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2011/10/18/fox-werrity-uk-scandal-exposes-meeting-with-mossad-chief-and-new-wealthy-pro-israel-donor/

Occupy Wall Street

‘Occupy Boston’ takes on the the occupation of Palestine
From the JTA: Tuesday’s march, under the moniker Occupy Boston –Not Palestine, was held in conjunction with dozens of members of Jewish Women for Justice in Palestine at Dewey Square, the center of the Occupy Boston movement, according to a report in the The Daily Free Press, a Boston University independent student publication.The protesters linked arms and marched down the street chanting slogans. Protesters told the student newspaper that Israel uses U.S. tax dollars to occupy Palestine, and that the new Middle East will marginalize the United States over its relationship with Israel. “We need to build houses in the U.S. instead of destroying houses in Palestine,” Murray said. “The occupation has gone on for so long because the U.S. vetoed 41 valid U.N. Security Council resolutions. They’ve given Israel the green light to abuse human rights,” Nancy Murray of Boston told the student newspaper.
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/10/occupy-boston-takes-on-the-the-occupation-of-palestine.html

 
Occupy Wall Streeters set sights on Sotheby’s 
The auction house Sotheby’s has become the latest target of New York’s ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protesters.   The demonstrators are showing support for striking art handlers, who say the auction house wants to cut their pay – despite reportedly selling $3billion worth of art in the first half of this year alone. Al Jazeera’s Cath Turner reports from New York.
 
Occupy Oakland looking to expand
Protesters who have brought the Occupy movement to San Francisco are fighting for the ability to camp out from one night to the next. But the scene in Oakland couldn’t be more different.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/19/MNMU1LJ2JA.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea

Occupy Wall Street’s demand? No demands
NEW YORK — They brave the elements, the police and uncertainties of life on the street, but probably the hardest thing anyone in the Occupy Wall Street demonstration can do is join something called the “Demands Working Group.” As they enter the second month of a protest that has echoed around the world, the activists of Occupy Wall Street are under fierce pressure from the media and major commentators to do what protest movements usually do: issue demands.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/18/occupy-wall-streets-demand-no-demands/

Analysis / Op-ed

Inside the tiny Washington group that is ‘mainstreaming Palestine’

Josh Block, former spokesman for AIPAC, said that ATFP is respected in Washington policy-making circles, including the pro-Israel community, “because they are seen as serious players with ideas and access — on the Hill, with the White House, and in the region.” ”One of the things that distinguishes them from the other actors in the Arab pro-Palestinian camp is their willingness to challenge corruption, condemn terrorism without equivocation and meet with other stakeholders without precondition,” he said. “Credibility in Washington is hard to come by, and Ziad Asali has certainly earned it.” Even Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren, who would have attended tonight’s gala if not for the fact that he was observing the Jewish holiday of Shemini Atzeret, had kind words for the group. ”We interact very frequently and on a friendly basis with the ATFP,” he said. “We view them as partners and as friends.” And if you are at the gala tonight, stop by and say hello to your humble Cable guy. I’m usually seated somewhere near the back of the room. 
 

Through thick and thin: America continues to support Israel despite the economic crisis and global calls for social and economic justice
At least a quarter of a million Israelis protested in August over the cost of living. In Tel Aviv alone, 200,000 people took to the streets. The protests, however, were over more than simply against the high cost of basic essentials and housing: “The people demand social justice!” they cried. As the Occupy Wall Street protests grow around the world, it seems clear that demands for change in the economic stratification have arrived.
http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/articles/americas/2964-through-thick-and-thin-america-continues-to-support-israel-despite-the-economic-crisis-and-global-calls-for-social-and-economic-justice

Celebration in the Middle East, But for How Long?
Mitzpe Hila, a small town in northern Israel close to Lebanon border must not have seen such a celebration in the recent years.  Similarly the 200,000 Palestinians who assembled in Katiba Square in Gaza city last night did not have anything like this to cheer about for many years. The Egyptian brokered prisoner swap deal between Hamas and Israel meant that the world would witness an extremely rare moment in the history of Middle East when the people in Israel and Gaza celebrate for the same cause at the same time.
http://palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=17187

Mya Guarnieri: Who Are the Palestinians?
A collection of 51 in-depth interviews of Palestinians from all walks of life, Arthur Nelsen’s groundbreaking In Your Eyes a Sandstorm holds many answers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mya-guarnieri/who-are-the-palestinians_b_1016971.html

Rick Perry religious ally predicts “death camps,” second Holocaust for Jews, Max BlumenthalBack in August, just before Texas Governor Rick Perry announced his candidacy for president, he spoke before an audience of tens of thousands at a right-wing evangelical Christian prayer event organized by Kansas City-based pastor Mike Bickle. The event, called “The Response,” served as a springboard for Perry’s national campaign, ensuring him the wholehearted support of a substantial faction of America’s powerful Christian Right.

 
Abu Ibrahim Ftouni practices traditional Arab medicine through his street cart coffee business. Beirut’s coffeemaker and physician has combined his passion and hobby, while bringing happiness and relief to his customers.
 
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  1. pabelmont says:

    Russians: “The realization by Israeli authorities of such plans, just like the intention to legalize the many settlement outposts built in occupied Palestinian territories, run absolutely counter to the commitments of the Israeli side under the Roadmap,” said the press release.”

    SHOWS THAT RUSSIA is a prisoner of the USA’s idea that agreements *(such as OSLO, ROADMAP) replace and supplant I/L. The settlements are illegal, as Russia should say. *ILLEGAL*. and the settlers s/b removed and the settlements demolished. PERIOD. ASAP.

    Which country will be the first to say this out loud in the public space? If new-Palestine presented that idea in a UNSC draft resolution, which would vote for it?

    • Hostage says:

      Which country will be the first to say this out loud in the public space?

      120 countries sponsored the recent Security Council resolution that declared the settlements illegal. All 14 of the other members of the Council voted in favor, but the US vetoed the measure on January 18th, 2011. Afterward, the Representative of Great Britain publicly stated that the settlements were illegal. US Ambassador Rice offered the non-explanation that the US had not used the term illegal since 1980 and that the settlements are illegitimate (i.e. Websters Definition of “illegitimate”: “not sanctioned by law : illegal”). Go figure.
      link to palestine-mandate.com

      • Hostage says:

        120 countries sponsored the recent Security Council resolution that declared the settlements illegal.

        Correction. A check of the verbatim Security Council record reveals that it was actually 122 countries. link to un.org

  2. seafoid says:

    Is it going to change anything for the people of Libya ?
    Is any non Jew in the Middle East ever going to be allowed live in freedom, with the right to choose a leader in free and fair elections , safe from war ?

    Are the women of Saudi ever going to be allowed to live as ordinary women ? Will the Palestinians ever be allowed to travel abroad on a whim knowing they can go home afterwards?

    • DBG says:

      what the hell do Jews have to do with it?

      • seafoid says:

        Lebanon and the Jewish State

        link to magnumphotos.com

        Egypt and the Jewish State

        link to magnumphotos.com

        Iraq and the Jewish state

        link to historycommons.org

      • annie says:

        what the hell do Jews have to do with it?

        you tell me. had seafoid written ‘Is any person in the Middle East ever going to be allowed live in freedom?’ what would your response have been? silence?

      • eGuard says:

        DBG: what the hell do Jews have to do with it?

        “Hell” you write? The PKK attack on Turkish soldiers was fired by Israel, ordonance fed through Iraq (no tunnels needed) and timed to disturb the celebration of the release of captured Palestinians.

        Last time Kurds did an attack on Turkey was May 31, 2010. Remember?

      • MRW says:

        what the hell do Jews have to do with it?

        Ask Netanyahu. He’s the one who gets exercised over Israel being the Jewish state for Jews only. (And taking over all available land for Jews in the West Bank and wherever else he can find it.)

        So what, we can’t mention it? Or mention non-Jews?

        Or are you looking for some excuse to screech anti-semitism?

    • Samuel says:

      Not a promising start to a new “democratic?” Lybia – killing leader without trial after capture.
      I suppose the Zios must be to blame

      • seafoid says:

        Zionists tend to be more into this kind of stuff

        link to freedomsphoenix.com

        link to btselem.org

        link to btselem.org

        link to icahd.org

        all in the name of Tikkun Olam

      • Antidote says:

        “Not a promising start to a new “democratic?” Lybia – killing leader without trial after capture.”

        Neither the last Czar of Russia nor Mussolini had a trial. The results were very different. Besides, as others below have already pointed out, killing opponents, be they domestic or foreign, without trial after capture seems to be the new way to go, as demonstrated by the old democracy and superpower.

      • Chaos4700 says:

        Yeah, and they didn’t even set bombs all across Europe and kill a Moroccan waiter or two in Norway to do it! How utterly anti-Zionist.

        • Charon says:

          No kidding. Ha! If you haven’t seen Spielberg’s “Munich” yet, don’t. He chose not to portray the waiter’s wrongful death, shot like 16 times (one for each dead Israeli who most of were likely shot by the German police which nobody ever reports) in front of his pregnant wife. Oh and he gives the Mossad agents a conscious which is BS since most intelligence agents are psychopaths/sociopaths (especially Mossad).

        • Sumud says:

          Munich is along the same lines of the recent Israeli films ‘Lebanon’ and ‘Waltz with Bashir’; all about Israelis positioning themselves simultaneously as perpetrator and victim. The people they kill hardly matter, we just get to witness the Israelis attempting to sooth their conscious by saying how hard it is to do all this killing.

          It’s grotesque. And, extremely dishonest. What Israelis really need are some films about the kind of people who march through Jerusalem screaming “death to arabs”. They’re not a minority, and no amount of hasbara can undo how shocking it is to *civilised* people.

    • James says:

      probably not…

      but perhaps the oil will start to run in the right direction according to the powers that be.. as for democracy and all that, it is really a mute point stacked up next to a continuing exploitation of the resources of libya… same thing is going on here in the west, except the facade is a bit more sophisticated…

      • seafoid says:

        “same thing is going on here in the west, except the facade is a bit more sophisticated…”

        This is a bit Tea Party but there is so much truth in it

        Especially at 2.45 when he discusses the banks

        • James says:

          many folks are making the same conclusion – corporate welfare as in ->bank bailouts, never had it so good all on the backs of the small people.. i doubt any benefits will flow into the small people in libya, but i would like to be wrong… the fat cats will find a way to keep it all for themselves, all under the guise of bringing freedom and democracy to libya…

  3. kapok says:

    He could have escaped easily but chose to stay.

  4. seafoid says:

    The American Manichaeism on display following the killings of Bin Laden and now Qaddafi is very hard to stomach.

    Hillary Clinton may develop Alzheimers and have a long decline and it could happen that pictures of her are plastered all over the Arab media.

    • RE: “The American Manichaeism on display following
      the killings of Bin Laden and now Qaddafi is very hard to stomach.” ~ seafoid

      Blood lusty Hillary Clinton celebrates (jpeg image) – link to facebook.com

      • P.S. The U.S. has become “The Great Sadist”!

        SEE: We came, we saw, he died: What Hillary Clinton told news reporter moments after hearing of Gaddafi’s death, Mail Online, 10/21/11
        LINK – link to dailymail.co.uk

      • P.P.S. The U.S. has become “The Great Sadist”!

        SEE: Qaddafi’s Death: Barbarism and Hypocrisy ~ by Matthew Rothschild, The Progressive, 10/21/11
        Just as the United States was wrong to rub out an unarmed Osama bin Laden, so, too, the Libyan rebels were wrong to murder the captured Qaddafi.
        Link – link to commondreams.org

        • Antidote says:

          Matthew Rothschild:

          “President Obama crowed that the Libya War demonstrates “the strength of American leadership across the world.” Rather, it shows that might makes right. And the hypocrisy of the U.S. position could hardly be greater. In 2003, the Bush Administration rehabilitated Qaddafi, who became an ally of the United States in the “war on terror.” In fact, the CIA used Qaddafi’s intelligence service to torture detainees that the U.S. sent over to Libya.”

          And once again the Nuremberg principle (might makes right) has been upheld. Brief recap: Support dictator financially and diplomatically as ally in the “war on Communism”. Switch sides to successfully wage “war on Nazism”, thus saving blood and treasure. Support British war effort with lend/lease/loans until they are bankrupt and eventually forced to surrender hegemony over Europe and ME to the US, but maintain Brits (as well as the French, Germans and other Europeans and semi-Europeans) as allies and useful idiots for future coalitions of the willing fighting wars against new Hitlers and crimes against humanity. Stage show trial on unprecedented scale, selectively punishing some Nazi war criminals, then switch sides again. Select top Nazi scientists, engineers, generals and spymasters and give them freedom, including on US soil (the most free of all) and provided they work for US interests. Start Cold War and get ready for proxy wars. Destroy and plunder German economy, demilitarize and defang the entire country. Detach prime agricultural land to be given to recognized victim nations who will not threaten the US economy and end up in Soviet sphere anyway. Then offer generous loans (to be repaid in full, with interest) to destitute Germans to rebuild their country. Within a few years, convince West Germans that it is in their own best interest to remilitarize as quickly as possible, buy American weapons and join Nato to assist their US, French and British liberators in countering the fourth liberator, who, since the Nuremberg trials, suddenly has shown his true colors as a most brutal dictator, tyrannizing the East Germans, Eastern Europeans and his own people. De-nazify Germans into holding, or at least not seriously interfering, with the firm conviction that they were wrong fighting the Soviets when Western Allies supported the Soviets in order to fight the Germans. Manufacture consent, at home and abroad, that Stalin was a dictator and ruthless mass murderer before and after, but not during WW II, or not as bad as Hitler, that the only reason why Western Allies fought the civilized and industrious Germans in the first place was to liberate them from an Austrian barbarian and his fanatical supporters, and to stop the Holocaust, the greatest crime against humanity in human history. Use template (X is another Hitler) to repeat same in ME, under the old banner of ‘democratic peace’ as the best way to simultaneously protect US interest and security and world peace and prosperity.

          Obama just announced the exit of the US military from Iraq by the end of this year, and a future of mutual recognition and respect between two sovereign countries. Strong American presidents don’t say that, or at least they don’t really mean it. Tf they do, they are defamed as weak presidents and usually lose the election, depending on the circumstances. Presidential candidate Romney is running on strength and steroids:

          “This century must be an American century. In an American century, America has the strongest economy and the strongest military in the world,” Romney said. “God did not create this country to be a nation of followers. America is not destined to be one of several equally balanced global powers. America must lead the world, or someone else will.”

          Substitute ‘German’ for ‘American’ and you get Hitler’s message and the situation of Germany, after a remarkable recovery of economic, political and military strength. Whether this portrayal of Germany in the late 30s reflected reality is questionable, but many inside and outside Germany believed it did. It was obvious even before Hitler and his Wehrmacht or SS ordered and committed crimes against peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity that not only he, but any possibility of a ‘German century’ on a continental or global scale had to be destroyed. As Hitler put it: There can only be one chosen people

      • P.P.P.S ALSO SEE: Libya Urged to Investigate Whether al-Gaddafi Death Was a War Crime, commondreams.org, 10/21/11
        Amnesty International today urged the new Libyan authorities to ensure a full, independent and impartial investigation into how Colonel Mu’ammar al-Gaddafi died, saying if he was deliberately killed in captivity it would constitute a war crime.
        LINK – link to commondreams.org

      • P.P.P.P.S. VIDEO (07:21) ~ Pepe Escobar: NATO wanted Gaddafi dead all along [Uploaded by RTAmerica on 10/21/11]
        Gaddafi at one point was a hero to the Western world, but for the last year Gaddafi was looked at as a villain. There are many reports explaining the reasons why the change of heart from the Western powers. Pepe Escobar, correspondent for the Asia Times, helps us understand what happened and what lies ahead for Libya.
        LINK – link to youtube.com

  5. annie says:

    i’m not watching those videos, i can’t stand this kind of stuff.

  6. Avi_G. says:

    Out with the old US-supported war criminal, in with the new US-supported war criminal.

    Hillary told the rebels, your wish is my command; whatever you need, we’ll provide.

    Thus ensuring once again, that a client dictatorship will emerge to replace the old client dictatorship.

    So much for change anyone can believe in.

  7. biorabbi says:

    Annie, agree strongly. The captured alive video is quite gruesome. I’m not sure why/who wanted this video “out there” although the rebel leadership may have wanted this video out there to quell dissent from Qaddafi loyalists. The US perspective might be that this was done by Libyan’s and not by the US. I can now understand why Obama did not want the UBL footage released.

    Still, I do not agree with Seafoid’s pessimism. I think both Libya and Egypt could have robust economy’s, democracy(or close to it), with freedom of religion. Who could not be impressed with the courage and intellect(internet savvy/tech)of the Tahir Square Movement. Under Nassar, Sadat, Mubarak the only alternative was the Muslim Brotherhood… this is not the case now. Same for Libya with its natural oil wealth. Bottom line: in the arab world today, there is accountability for actions… in Libya, Yeman, Egypt, but not Saudi Arabia(yet), but accountability to the people is the start of democracy.

    Jordan seems to be sidestepping the Arab Spring movement but it could be their king is smart enough to implement the needed reforms or something else I hadn’t considered.

    I still have hope Israel will be smart enough here to end the Gaza Embargo in exchange for a truce with Hamas. But nothing will happen until the second stage of the Hamas-Israel prisoner release is finished. The elderly and sick prisoners will be favored with Hamas selecting them among a list.

    If I were the leader of Israel I would first proceed with a truce with Hamas, then reset the wall on the ’67 border zone, or very close to it. Third, a shared Jerusalem with the old city under UN guardianship.

    • Walid says:

      “… Under Nassar, Sadat, Mubarak the only alternative was the Muslim Brotherhood… ”

      You’ve got it backward. It was because of people like them that brotherhood organizations flourished everywhere. It will be worse than what seafoid is predicting; just look to what American-instigated democracy has done to Iraq, Afghanistan, and what it’s about to do in Tunisia, and Egypt. A couple of days back, Moqtada al-Sadr in a televised speech gave the US a polite reminder that it’s expected to get out of Iraq except for 1200 trainers by the end of this year. The US is already into a skating game about that committed date because Iraq is refusing to waive any of its prosecution rights against the US and is claiming some compensation or other from the US.

    • Taxi says:

      biorabbi,

      I predict the jordan monarchy will be next to flee/fall. I’ll give them till like around January 2012.

      What will Apartheid israel do then? Oh deary deary dear.

      Even if it’s bottom of the list on the so-called arab spring and it’s arab ‘springsters’, Apartheid israel’s turn too is surely coming.

      A snuff fone video of israel’s war criminals? Could so easily happen if they don’t straighten out within… oh wait, they have no intention of straightening out and returning land stolen from palestinians, lebanese and syrians.

      Genocide and ethnic cleansing will cost israel same as it cost germany and SA. No getting away from that eventuality.

      • Chaos4700 says:

        The current Jordanian monarch might survive, he’s been instituting reforms before the Arab Spring and he’s continuing to institute them. I’ve known some diaspora Palestinians here in the US who (at least after experiencing conditions in the US) would take Jordan over just about any other country they’d been to (and they’d been to quite a few, as a result of their refugee status).

        I haven’t decided how I feel about the Jordanian king myself, but realistically I don’t need to, I suppose. He’s not my king, he’s not killing people in the streets like Assad or Qaddafi or Mubarak or Netanyahu or Livni or Sharon or etc. so he’s not my problem, ultimately.

        • Taxi says:

          Chaos,

          Just google “jordanian police crackdown against protesters” to get more of an idea on what’s really been going on in Jordan. Weirdly, I couldn’t find ANYTHING on google about last week’s violent scenes which I saw footage of on TV here in Lebanon where I’m visiting. It looked just like footage from Bahrain: nice peaceful people being clubbed on the head and body by uniformed police wearing gas masks while the fallen bodies were screaming and clouds of teargas rolled over them.

          In fact, my friend who’s a professional expert on Jordan, tells me that the king has no more than a handful of months of reign – despite them reforms he’s rushing.

          If you wanna know about the King of Jordan just ask Angry Arab about him. He refers to him constantly as “king Playstation”. He’s weak-minded and without courage, that’s just for starters. And yes it’s true he’s speedily making reforms, but that’s because his small foot is shaking in his big boots like all other self-centered and repressive arab leaders are today. And these reforms he’s rushing, by the way, do not include ‘freedom of speech’.

          Jordan has a very unscrupulous usa-backed and funded Intelligence Service. An organization that runs itself without the orders of the small king. They have their ears on the wires of every Arab country and it is known that if you wanted classified info on any country in the middle east, you can buy it from Jordan. Quiet often they sell to israel.

          Your Palestinian friends might reckon Jordan cuz it’s mostly Palestinians refugees who live there and yes it’s true they would feel more at home for that simple reason.

          ‘Khabeess” is an Arabic word often used to describe King Abdulla. It means: two-face, a snake in the grass kinda person.

        • Chaos4700 says:

          There isn’t really anything in your post that I care to contradict, let alone could contradict if I wanted to, so fair enough.

  8. Larry says:

    Obama, Clinton, other murderers…

  9. crone says:

    me either annie…

  10. CactusLand says:

    The video of Gaddaffi is horrible, congratulations to Tony Blair and company, are money is well spent supporting NATO. Democracy? This is sick.
    We really need to turn off their “matrix”. They control the message, the creation of the money, our culture… we need to wake up and disengage from this massive infomocracy. This article gives an explanation of how and why: link to thecactusland.com

    • Walid says:

      $160 billion frozen in Swiss bank acounts; who will get it?

      • RoHa says:

        Yoo Hoo! Hello! Over here! I’ve got my hand up!

        • Walid says:

          Don’t get your hopes up, RoHa, the $160 billion is not net of costs. After the US and other NATO partners deduct their cost for this expedition, the number will be much lower.

          In Iraq I, the total bill was $61 billion of which the Saudis and Kuwaitis and other Gulf Arabs paid about $30 billion, $16 billion was paid by Japan and Germany and the rest was spread over the other participants with the US carrying the biggest share of the $19 billion balance. Nothing comes for free, not even democracy. Now you know why the US is so anxious to bring democracy everywhere.

          I think the Iraqis will be paying back for Iraq II over the next 200 years. They have already placed a nice order for some F16s.

        • you are not gonna get it. Don’t you worry.
          None of the “average” folks is gonna see it.
          It will go towards “fighting Iran”, the ” world’s enemy”.

        • Walid says:

          A number for Libya popped up via the Angry Arab:

          Sen. John McCain told CNN on Thursday that, during his visit to Tripoli a few weeks ago, new government officials told him they’re willing to reimburse the United States for its role in helping end the Gadhafi regime. So far, that tab has run about $1.2 billion, according to Pentagon and State Department officials.

          link to money.cnn.com

    • Sumud says:

      From what I understand Gadaffi’s downfall was more engineered by the French and has been in the works since last year, before even #Jan25 in Egypt started.

      Scott Horton at Antiwar Radio has had some great interview lately on Libya, all available to listen to online or as I do by podcast.

    • Chaos4700 says:

      But it is democracy, Western-style. Compare and contrast with Saddam Hussein’s treatment under US-occupied Iraq.

      • DBG says:

        execution without trial and presenting his dead body in the back of a pick-up is not democracy, it is savagery.

        Qadaffi was no friend to the Libyans, no friend the the Americans, no friend to the Jews and no friend to Israel, I am glad he is gone. But a point blank headshot, execution style, wasn’t the way to take care of it. It taints their movement before it even gets off the ground.

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          “execution without trial and presenting his dead body in the back of a pick-up is not democracy, it is savagery. ”

          Exactly. They should have shot him and dumped his body in the sea. Or maybe, they should have dropped a 2-ton bomb dropped on a building in which he (and maybe some children and other people who were in range) was located. Or, perhaps, they should have waited until he went to a wedding and then just blown up the whole party with a drone. Those methods are so MUCH more civilized.

        • seafoid says:

          Yeah DBG. They should have finished him off Israel style with white phosphorous. How they killed him and left his body intact is beyond me.

        • DBG says:

          ahhh the old they are worse than us argument. priceless.

        • Avi_G. says:

          seafoid October 21, 2011 at 12:58 pm

          Yeah DBG. They should have finished him off Israel style with white phosphorous. How they killed him and left his body intact is beyond me.

          As you may know, during their colonial reign in Africa, the Belgians used to decapitate the bodies of the natives they took prisoners.

          Take for example the case of Patrice Lumumba, the democratically elected prime minister of the Congo who met such fate at the hands of Belgian authorities with assistance from the US.

          The Portuguese did the same in their various colonies.

          And people wonder why colonialism has got such a bad reputation.

        • DBG says:

          Does this make what was done to Qaddafi good? I mean I see a lot of deflection, does that mean you guys approve of his execution? Do you think it will help Libya?

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          “Does this make what was done to Qaddafi good?”

          It is irrelevant to it. But what happened to Qaddafi was just, so, by definition, it was good.

          “I mean I see a lot of deflection, does that mean you guys approve of his execution?”

          I do. Absolutely.

          But, to me, your comment brought to my mind the common Israeli-apologist tactic of saying “such-and-such country is doing something that is so much worse than Israel. Why don’t worry about that first.”

          Well, why don’t you worry about the extrajudicial killings committed by the Israelis and Americans, on a greater scale, killing more people before worrying about the Libyans.

          “Do you think it will help Libya?”

          Absolutely. I think that the notion of a trial in the Hague as panacea or catharsis for the victims is false in many cases and can be absolutely harmful by prolonging the problem. In rare cases, battlefield justice is the best choice.

        • MarkF says:

          “I mean I see a lot of deflection, does that mean you guys approve of his execution? ”

          Really good question Dave. I don’t approve of both the execution, and our role in it. We helped kill a guy who had a lot of support in his country and that might cause blow back. Not only are we “world cop”, we’re “world judge and jury”.

          On the way to work today, one coworker drove by the state department to see guards with automatic weapons on the sidewalk. Is this how we want to live here?

          To paraphrase Bush, may G-d have mercy on our souls.

        • Chaos4700 says:

          I guess according to DBG, Qaddafi’s executioners should have been Jewish. Then it would have been righteous.

        • Hostage says:

          Does this make what was done to Qaddafi good? I mean I see a lot of deflection, does that mean you guys approve of his execution?

          The National Transitional Council has claimed to be the legitimate government of a High Contracting Party to the Geneva Conventions. I’ve cited the prohibition against extrajudicial killings in Common Article 3 on non-international armed conflicts often enough that you shouldn’t have to ask.

          Anyone can see from the video that he was abused after he was captured and “hors de combat”. The news reports that I’ve seen so far are inconclusive as to whether he was executed or succumbed to his wounds. FYI, UN Security Council resolution 1970 required all of the Libyan authorities to act with the utmost restraint, respect human rights and international humanitarian law. The referral of the situation in Libya to the ICC applied to all crimes committed by Libyans, not just Qaddafi’s forces. link to un.org

        • Cliff says:

          DBG I am in complete agreement with you.

          He was a dictator but what was done to him was savage and the parading of his death in democratic societies is disgusting.

          He should have been brought to justice, not riddled w/ bullets and then photographed for the world to see.

        • Hostage says:

          I think that the notion of a trial in the Hague as panacea or catharsis for the victims is false in many cases and can be absolutely harmful by prolonging the problem.

          Even when the Security Council refers situations to the ICC, its jurisdiction remains “complimentary” to the national courts of the country concerned. So the Libyan NTC would have the opportunity to put individuals on trial and preempt the ICC from taking any action. The Court can still initiate prosecutions in cases where the national courts are used to shield individuals from criminal responsibility.

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          Hostage, I was using the expression “in the Hague” as a stand in for war crimes trial, not that it would have to be in the Hague, itself.

        • Hardly good. It is hard for me to reconcile the extrajudicial taking of someone’s life, however vile the person, and certainly unjustified by any protestations of expediency or cost.

          And lest we forget, the reason we consider him vile is because of what has been reported to us of him – most of us here have no first-hand knowledge of his actions – only what has been recounted in the MSM – a source which has little credibility with me. Not to mention that our government has a long history of demonizing those whom we choose to attack – usually to acquire their resources.

          I found the “we came, we saw, he died” comment by Hillary particularly disturbing. Not only did it conjure up the obvious (deliberate?) connection to the quote of a Roman emperor reminding us how we have become just as decadent an empire, the casual treatment of the life of anyone who has not been proven guilty in a court of law goes against the grain of everything American – at least the intent of America that I was brought up to believe in.

          A government that flaunts every law and considers itself above it is neither a republic nor a democracy by any definition that I am aware of.

          In conclusion, DBG, clearly not all of us “you guys” are of the same opinion, because, believe it or not, we are all individuals with our own biases and philosophies, and none of us are reading from the same bible of uniform thought. I agree with most of the things Woody Tanaka writes about – this is not one of them.

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          In conclusion, DBG, clearly not all of us “you guys” are of the same opinion, because, believe it or not, we are all individuals with our own biases and philosophies, and none of us are reading from the same bible of uniform thought. I agree with most of the things Woody Tanaka writes about – this is not one of them.

          Thanks, CloakAndDagger. You do me the honor of thinking about what I’ve written.

          And you are correct about DBG’s statement. I think it displayed a rather knee-jerk assumption about us, based on the fact that we disagree with him, rather than based on what we might think and conclude.

  11. we all have to prepare for a speedy ride.
    Buckle up your seat bealts.
    Syria next, or Iran???

  12. Walid says:

    Time to take those burqas out of mothballs and to send them to the dry cleaners.

  13. Shmuel says:

    Time to take those burqas out of mothballs and to send them to the dry cleaners.

    That’s downright mediaeval! Haven’t they heard of wash-and-wear?

    • Walid says:

      Wash and wear burkas is the business to be in now, Shmuel, it’s now 3 in a row with Tunisia, Libya and Egypt all heading down burqa road. This Sunday’s elections in Tunisia should be the opener. There are over 11,000 candidates running for 100 separate political parties to win the 217 seats in Parliament.

      Guess which political party is in the lead? Quick, open your boutique.

  14. pabelmont says:

    “The Japanese government today deplored the Israeli Government plan to construct 2,610 new housing units in Givat Hamatos, East Jerusalem, and say that such settlement activities are a violation of international law”

    Deplored but did not act. Words but not actions. In effect, a GREEN LIGHT. Or, to put it more charitably, Japan recognizes that there is not, today, any way to enforce international law. (Minus three cheers for the USA’s veto in UNSC.)

  15. Kathleen says:

    Obamas drones try to kill Gadhafi the very dictator that a month before he said he was not trying to kill. Gadhafi then left to be executed by Libyan rebels. US MSM host gloat as they display gruesome bloody images of a live then dead Gadhafi with a bullet hole in his head. And this is called the birth of a democracy…civilization…killing for peace. All so absurd

    This is change I don’t believe in

    msnbc’s Richard Engel was gloating last night on Rachel Maddows as he described why Gadhafi had tried to make a deal with the US, had shared information after 9/11 with the US, paid retribution for Pan Am Lockerbie,broke down his alleged nuclear weapon program. Engel gloated as he said Gadhafi had had an epiphany when he saw Saddam Hussein pulled from a hole in the ground. Engel continued to gloat as he said that Gadhafi had been pulled from that drainage pipe. Gloating as he said Gadhafi was killed.

    So this is the message that other dictators are receiving as they watch Gadhafi’s dead and bloodied body shown over and over again in the MSM. and hear one MSM hypocrite after the next gloat about the execution. Make a deal with the very country who used to support you and this is what you get. Richard Engel was sickening.

    I have been a die hard Dem since I was 18 (now 59).I have been listening to Romney very closely because I am so disgusted with Obama. No way can I vote for Romney (his economic plan), don’t think we will get much different with health care from him. But Obama has been such a dissapointment especially in regard to holding anyone accountable for the bloody immoral invasion of Iraq, torture, wiretapping and now his killing for peace agenda. Peace in the form of drones. No due process. This is truly change I do not believe in. This is the first time in my life that I am not only thinking about not helping the Dems but not voting.

    Why not apply these same standards of accountability to US war criminals? If Obama supports the Libyan people taking justice into their own hands then I expect all of those who support this type of brutal and gruesome action would support the Iraqi people coming after those who lied a nation into an unnecessary and immoral invasion into Iraq. This type of accountability for all of the thousands dead and injured

  16. seafoid says:

    “This is the first time in my life that I am not only thinking about not helping the Dems but not voting.”

    Annie

    I have been reading the Progressive since 1998 and for the last 3 presidential elections they have had vicious arguments over whether or not to vote Nader. Vote for a Dem and you’ll get change was always the argument of the majority.

    Nader is right.

    link to counterpunch.org

    The corporate state moves on. Corporate power has unique characteristics. It is perfectly willing and able to corrupt, regardless of sexual or ethnic preference. It offers equal opportunities to be corrupted or coopted . That’s why it’s very difficult for the civil community, which is affected by principles, nuances, honest disagreements, to confront the monistically commercial corporations. No one says ‘the big debate inside Exxon is whether to go more for oil or solar. That’s why every religion in the world, in their scriptures, issues a warning not to give too much power to the merchant class. The commercial instinct is relentless, consistent, limitless in achieving its goal. It will run rough-shod to destroy, co-opt or dilute civic and spiritual values that stand in its way.

    They chewed up and spat out the dems and what remains is what was the Republican party of maybe 20 years ago. The republicans have ceded that space and moved to the far right via the Tea party.

    • Kathleen says:

      Nader has been right on some issues for a very long time. Have always gone for the lesser of two evils. Knowing that candidates are not “evil” but deal with facts on the ground that are greater than we are totally aware of. I am so disgusted with Obama and his drones for peace through killing, and his unwillingness to hold anyone accountable for the Iraq war crimes, wiretapping, Holder and Obama dismissing the Aipac trial, torture issues etc I do not think I can vote for him. Worked hundreds of hours on his campaign not fooled had watched him too closely in the Senate, knew it was a highly put together campaign…what other choice did we have. But now so dissapointed in his foreign policy strategy..does not push the rule of law bringing OBL, Gadhafi to trial the way Bush and Cheney should be. Just a slim push for accountability would have sufficed

  17. Kathleen says:

    Of course the US and other Nato nations did not want Gadhafi put on trial he would have pointed right at those who have supported this mad man for decades. Could not have that. So they allowed those he had committed crimes against to execute him for all the world to see.

    The way Gadhafi’s live and then dead bloody body has been shown all over the US MSM yesterday and this morning reminded me of a Roman colesium where the public watched and cheered the brutal deaths of others. The host of many of these shows (Richard Engel was one of the worst) smirking, gloating and celebrating his death by it sure looked like an execution. This is what the world has come to? This is what an emerging democracy looks like. Libya must have been taking notes when Saddam was caught and executed. I am disgusted by the whole thing. Gadhafi should have been put on trial.

    • Do you think we went far from Romans “panem et circenses” mentality.??
      No, human’s nature did not change a lot for the last couple thousands years.
      Give a public a cheap food, easy and sleazy entartainment, and they , at last most of them, will be quite happy. Evil people are still the same, celebrating killing, torturing, stealing , fueling their spirits with hate, greed, the most primitive desires. Good people, ( a minority), are still fighting for justice, peace, freedom, honor etc.
      Nihil novi sub sole.
      Only times and people are different. Only now WE are the main actors on the stage of worldly events that reveal right in front of us.
      And …they are not quite optimistic.

  18. DBG says:

    Two good comments were made:

    Nice…though its a shame that these folks and 972 are playing up some kind of association between Occupy Wall Street and the Palestinian cause. It would be more considerate to the protesters, and the 99% not make everything about Palestine and sabotage an otherwise sympathetic cause. I’m sure that even the die-hards understand that most Americans do not see Palestine as a populist issue.
    
    I consider it significant and redeeming that the al cheit from the event lists “Not defending Palestine” and “Not defending Israel” coequally in our sins
    Max Blumenthal and others who keep pushing the only-Palestine line have nothing to teach us compared to these fine Occupy Yom Kippur pray-er protesters.

  19. Brewer says:

    “Now,
    I am under attack by the biggest force in military history, my little
    African son, Obama wants to kill me, to take away the freedom of our
    country, to take away our free housing, our free medicine, our free
    education, our free food, and replace it with American style thievery,
    called “capitalism,” but all of us in the Third World know what that
    means, it means corporations run the countries, run the world, and the
    people suffer, so, there is no alternative for me, I must make my stand,
    and if Allah wishes, I shall die by following his path, the path that
    has made our country rich with farmland, with food and health, and even
    allowed us to help our African and Arab brothers and sisters to work
    here with us … I do not wish to die, but if it comes to that, to save
    this land, my people, all the thousands who are all my children, then so
    be it. … In the West, some have called me “mad”, “crazy”. They know
    the truth but continue to lie, they know that our land is independent
    and free, not in the colonial grip.”

    - from:
    Recollections of My Life
    by Col. Muammar Gaddafi, April 8, 2011

  20. Redruin says:

    Might as well tear up the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Any non-NATO country without nuclear weapons, particularly an oil producer, would be nuts not to go nuclear.