Why Rabbi Susan Talve was called a ‘real terrorist’ by St Louis activists

A meme created and posted by HandsUp United on Monday has caused an uproar in St. Louis activist circles. The image that circulated on social media bears the photo of Rabbi Susan Talve, the leader of St. Louis’ Central Reform Congregation. Rabbi Talve is well known figure in the Ferguson protest movement and interfaith community of St. Louis. The controversy surrounds the commentary in the meme about Rabbi Talve referring to her as a “Real Terrorist” for her support of Israeli apartheid and its oppression of Palestinians. The image is part of HandsUp United “Real Terrorist” campaign calling out St. Louis power brokers for their role in perpetuating systems of racial oppression and includes photos of St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay, Missouri Governor Jay Nixon, Missouri Senator Jamilah Nasheed with the hashtag #‎RealTerrorist.

As Palestinians, we are too familiar with the label “terrorist” and Hands Up’s use of the word attempts to turn the term on its head by applying it to state political power as a way to illustrate society’s hypocrisy about the use of violence. The messaging is blunt and could have used more context. Here I hope to provide some background on why Rabbi Talve was targeted.

In the summer of 2014, Palestinians around the globe, including the community in St. Louis, watched in agony as Israel assaulted our people in Gaza for over 50 days killing over 2000. Our anguish was only amplified by the murder of Mohammad Abu Khader in Jerusalem who was set on fire alive by Jewish settlers. In the midst of this agony, Mike Brown was killed in Ferguson. For many of us, this awakened an active love and solidarity with the Black liberation movement. The pain of both of our communities was raw and fresh, and was being met with very similar responses of state violence.

During our summer of sorrow, Rabbi Talve was traveling in Israel with a delegation organized by AIPAC, a conservative, war-mongering lobby group that has vigorously supported U.S. funding and defense of the Israeli policies of settler colonialism in Palestine.

During her time in Israel, Talve sent dispatches back to her community in St. Louis. In her messages, Talve asserted that all of Jerusalem belonged to Israel, blamed the deaths of Palestinians in Gaza on Hamas and praised the Israeli army for their morality and courage. When she returned from Israel, she hosted a promotional event for AIPAC at her synagogue. AIPAC hosted Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu at their annual conference in Washington, DC in March 2015, the day before he spoke to the US Congress. His message to Washington was clear: the US and Israel are engaged in a common war against the “uncivilized” of the Middle East. His racism against Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims rivaled his racialized hatred of President Obama. AIPAC is the organization Talve chose to travel to Israel with and to support in St. Louis. Her actions made it clear that she supports Israel at all costs. At the Ferguson October events in 2014, she told a reporter, “A lot of American Jews are very conflicted as I am about the occupation, they’re scared for Israel because we don’t feel safe in this country.”

As a Palestinian who is exiled from her father’s country of birth, those words could not sound more privileged and racist. In this sick logic, my family and millions of other Palestinians are denied return to Palestine so that Talve and her co-religionists can have a back-up country. The idea is absurd and that it comes from the lips of the “progressive” rabbi makes it harder to comprehend.

In March 2015 the Missouri History Museum censored a panel, From Ayotzinapa to Ferguson to Palestine by telling organizers that Palestine was not permitted to be part of the discussion.

Emails secured through a FOIA request show that Jewish establishment leaders in St. Louis pressured the museum to remove Palestine from the discussion. Our Black and brown alliance refused to continue with the panel at the museum without Palestinian voices included and staged a protest on the steps of the Museum. Included among the emails retrieved is a message from Talve offering her support to Museum Director, Frances Levine. In her email dated March 18, 2015 she writes, “dear Fran…let me know if you want to talk about the protests planned for tomorrow night. not sure how I can help but I will if I can….talk to you soon! Love, susan.”

Does this strike you as the offer of a person committed to social justice and dialogue?

Our brown and black partners refused this attempt to divide our alliances and cancelled the event at the museum. We continued with our plans to welcome the Ayotiznapa Caravana to St. Louis. One of the events with the delegates was a vigil for victims of state violence at the Mike Brown memorial in Ferguson. Talve was in attendance. Our dear friend and comrade, Murad, a Palestinian student from Deheisheh Refugee Camp in the West Bank, was asked to speak. Murad told the story of his high school friend who was shot by Israeli soldiers and died in his arms. It was a story of unimaginable pain. As the gathering dispersed, Talve was discussing the event with my friend, Harry, and remarked, “What do we have to learn from the Palestinians, to strap bombs to ourselves?”

When Harry told me about this I was speechless and angry for Murad. Talve had come to a sacred space organized by people of color in mourning and basically said a big FU. She called all Palestinians suicide bombers, so excuse me if I’m not morally outraged that she was referred to as a #RealTerrorist.

Talve is at the center of social justice movements in St. Louis. For that, she should be commended. But her hypocrisy of fighting against racial injustice in St. Louis while supporting it in Israel is what HandsUp United was calling out. Zionism has no place in liberation spaces led by people of color. I am so grateful to my family at HandsUp United for understanding that none of us are free until all of us are free.

A version of this post first appeared on Sandra Tamari’s Facebook page.

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Thank you for this very interesting and informative article. Rabbi Talve’s faith calls her to stand with the oppressed, except when Jews are the oppressors.

At the Ferguson October events in 2014, she told a reporter, “A lot of American Jews are very conflicted as I am about the occupation, they’re scared for Israel because we don’t feel safe in this country.”

As a Palestinian who is exiled from her father’s country of birth, those words could not sound more privileged and racist. In this sick logic, my family and millions of other Palestinians are denied return to Palestine so that Talve and her co-religionists can have a back-up country. The idea is absurd and that it comes from the lips of the “progressive” rabbi makes it harder to comprehend.

Privileged, racist, and absurd is an exact description of the Jewish Zionists, who insist on subjugating the Palestinians and stealing their land so that they and their fellow Jews can have a “back-up” “Jewish” country in addition to the European countries and the U.S., all of which welcome Jews.

This article and the accompanying open letter from Saint Louis Jewish Voice for Peace are watershed articles, two of the most powerful articles I’ve read. Send them to every Jew you know who is progressive except for Palestine. Send the articles also to the heads of the Interfaith Councils and to Christian leaders who give Zionists a pass.

The problem with PEPs is their inability to see go back far enough, to understand how the decision to establish a Jewish-majority state by force, on as much land as possible, set forth endless violence, just as the State Department predicted it would. To justify the expulsion of the Palestinians and the appropriation of their lands on the basis of our having done the same to the American Indians is like saying it’s OK to have slavery in this day and age, since the U.S. was once a slave state.

The only way out of the mess we have created is to focus on equality and justice.

Thank you for the well-written post; first and foremost a huge thank you to Hands Up United, makers of the poster. It’s 70 years overdue. That’s exactly what Zionists should always be called. Wonder what’s holding back –and polite– the Solidarity people in the big cities.

Talve: A lot of American Jews “are scared for Israel because we don’t feel safe in this country.”

Huh? They’re scared here? Then why haven’t they gone there? Isn’t Israel supposed to be a safe haven for Jews who feel unsafe or oppressed elsewhere?

But wait! If Israel’s safety seems to them to depend on the largesse (and good feeling) of the USA, then her feeling of unsafety here (in the USA) might translate to a feeling of unsureness that the USA will continue to support Israel. Hence her support for AIPAC, the thumbscrew intended to keep the USA in line!

Wouldn’t it be a riot (so to speak) if there were in the USA massive, real antisemitic behavior — you know, really, actually frightening to Jews unlike the JVP and SJP on-campus agitation which is not in any way aimed at Jews here in the USA but is fraudulently called frightening to Jewish students — BUT at the same time AIPAC or other BIGs in the American oligarchy made sure to keep the aid flowing to Israel!

Yes, that must be what she is imagining (or actually feeling)! If so, poor dear. Not merely paranoiac but completely detached from reality. But it would explain her support for AIPAC whilst remaining in the USA, refusing to evacuate to Israel, and imagining all the while that there is frightening antisemitism in the USA.

Such a long letter by JVP; such a waste of genuine concern for the lives and welfare of Palestinians thrown like precious pearls at this woman who’s heart is stone cold and who’s soul is afflicted with the moral contradiction that Zionism creates because this is what Zionism is; she is the personification of Zionism.

Why waste time on this individual? The Black Movement should reject whatever this woman offers as her hypocrisy sullies the struggle for equal justice. She is not worthy to represent in any way the cause for justice that the Black Movement is about.

When she comes knocking to cleanse her conscience with the Black Movement because that is all she is doing, attempting to cleanse her conscience, the door should be slammed in her face as she slammed the door in the face of Palestinian men, women and children fighting and struggling for generations for rights in their own land.