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Some people thought Anthony Weiner would never ‘gett’ what he deserved. 

Huma Abedin, a top Hillary Clinton aide, announced Monday that she is divorcing her husband, Queens-native Weiner, a disgraced former New York Congressman whose sexting of pictures of his engorged genitals to his fellow Americans cost him his political career in 2011. Her decision comes in the wake of yet another report of his digital infidelity. The New York Post broke the sexting story Sunday, and Abedin’s statement appeared Monday morning.

“After long painful consideration and work on my marriage, I have made the decision to separate from my husband,” she said, asking for privacy. 

Before gaining international infamy for his online philandering, Weiner had distinguished himself as one of Israel’s most ardent apologists in Congress, apologizing for Israeli militarism, denying the existence of a military occupation in the West Bank and scolding critics of Israeli policies, even condemning the New York Times for its lack of Zionist cred.

The Nation Institute hosted a debate in 2011 between Weiner and former Washington State congressman Brian Baird, moderated by the New York Times’ Roger Cohen. The discussion followed the release of the Goldstone Report on Israel’s bombardment of the Gaza Strip in 2008/2009, Operation Cast Lead.

In the debate, Weiner floated such whoppers as there being no Israeli occupation of the West Bank or Gaza, and that all settlements are in Israel. Here’s one exchange, transcribed at the time by Zaid Jilani for Truthout.

WEINER: You can see a difference in the development in the West Bank with 11 percent year over year growth, with no Israeli occupation there either, with increasing access to checkpoints

COHEN: What about area C, D,

WEINER: Hold on, maybe this would be helpful

COHEN: No occupation in the West Bank, did I hear you right?

WEINER: Yes.

COHEN: Have you been to the West Bank lately?

WEINER: Yes.

COHEN: You didn’t see the IDF there?

WEINER: In Ramallah? No. In Nablus? No. Now can I tell ya there might be some people in this room who think Jerusalem is occupied.

COHEN: Well hold on a second there, let’s stick to the West Bank. You’re saying there is no IDF presence there?

WEINER: Yes.

As laid out in the Oslo Accords, Area A is where Palestinians have both civil and security control; Area B, in the suburbs of Palestinian cities, is under Palestinian civil but Israeli military control; and Area C is effectively annexed to Israel. It includes almost all of the Jordan Valley, except for a tiny Island of area A around Jericho. If you’ve visited the Dead Sea on the Israeli side, that was Area C. But these distinctions are somewhat meaningless, since Israel has drones and fighter jets that fly over the West Bank and Gaza at will, and can drop what they want.

Maybe it’s different for traveling congressmen who like sending pictures of their penises to strangers, but most human beings who travel around the West Bank have to go through checkpoints to get from small enclaves of nominal Palestinian control. In this process, they encounter Israeli security forces. The fact that Weiner didn’t see Israelis in Nablus meant that he happened to be there when the Israelis weren’t actively inside Nablus, a common occurrence during the first Intifada. In Nablus, you could see bullet holes in the walls and metal gates of buildings in the Old City.

There’s also this cool soap factory there. Check it out. Great soap. Amazing kenefeh, which is like a cheesy baklava-esque type dessert. But I digress.

Mondoweiss’s Phil Weiss was also there  at the New School forum to listen to Weiner make excuses for Israel’s assault on civilians in Gaza.

“Baird asked about Israeli destruction (by bombing, shelling, missiles) of an industrial zone in Gaza which had nothing to do with the “war”. Weiner said it was OK to destroy anything in a war, and pointed out that Israel had dropped leaflets on civilian residences announcing impending bombardment so the civilians could get out, as evidence if Israeli morality. I do not remember any discussion of whether or not there was anywhere for such civilians to go which would be safe from bombardment, shooting, etc.,” Weiss wrote at the time. “The back-and-forth dragged on, and I got tired of listening.”

But that’s just one episode in Weiner’s history of saying stuff out of touch not just with morality, but with physical reality itself. Juan Cole, a professor of Middle Eastern and South Asian history at the University of Michigan, who runs the blog Informed Comment, compiled a greatest hits of Weinerisms about Israel/Palestine. Here it is:

  1. Called for Columbia University professor Joseph Massad to be fired for being critical of Israel; Weiner thus spearheaded a new McCarthyism.
  1. On the Israeli attack, in international waters, on the Mavi Marmara relief ship, Weiner sputtered: “”If you want to instigate a conflict with the Israeli navy it isn’t hard to do. They were offered alternatives. Instead they chose to sail into the teeth of an internationally recognized blockade.” The blockade of Gaza civilians is a breach of international law; it is not internationally recognized and has on the contrary been condemned by almost every nation and human rights organization.
  1. Alleged that the New York Times is anti-Israel: “Amnesty International in particular, has always had bias against Israel, and frankly I would argue that in many cases, the New York Times has, as well.”
  1. Alleged that the Palestine Liberation Organization is still listed by the US as a terrorist organization. It was dropped from the list over 2 decades ago.
  1. Tried to bar the Palestinian delegation to the United Nations from New York.
  1. Alleged that Mahmoud Abbas, President of the Palestine Authority, is not the head of the PLO. He is.
  1. Refused to condemn the use by Israel of cluster bombs on the civilian farms of south Lebanon in 2006.
  1. Alleged that the Israeli army does not occupy the West Bank and that there is no Israeli Army presence in the West Bank.
  1. Called Israel’s war on Gaza a “humane” war. 400 children were killed.
  1. Voted for Iraq War authorization in 2002, before later turning against the war.

A quick Google search for “Anthony Weiner Gaza War 2014” doesn’t turn up anything. But he was out of office by then, and nobody cared what he had to say.

Besides humiliating his wife, one of the lasting contributions of Weiner to American history was helping the late Andrew Breitbart’s conservative news empire get rolling. Today, Weiner’s fellow New Yorker, Donald Trump, is using the website as his public relations engine. It is, after all, the “platform for the Alt Right.”

Breitbart was one of the first to notice that Weiner had tweeted a picture of his erect penis, before quickly deleting it, after trying to send it to a young woman. The day Weiner apologized and admitted his mistake, but failed to resign, Breitbart used the opportunity to chastise fellow members of the press for failing to recognize that Breitbart had it right. He actually took the podium before Weiner got up. I was sitting in the New York Post newsroom at the time, and everyone was glued to the row of boxy television sets that sat above the city desk.

Later that night, I was outside of 1211 6th Avenue, home of News Corp. and The Post, smoking a cigarette. I looked up and saw Breitbart himself, chatting up a lady. After they were done talking, I walked up and asked Breitbart a question.

“What has this all accomplished?” I asked.

“It’s made America whole again!”

I tried to process that before Breitbart clarified.

“I’m joking,” he said. “I feel vindicated.”

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  1. Stephen Shenfield
    August 29, 2016, 4:02 pm

    Hillary Clinton is also an occupation denier. When will Huma Abedin divorce her?

    • JWalters
      August 29, 2016, 9:05 pm

      Hillary says,

      “Someone … who has courted … supremacists, who’s been sued for housing discrimination … and promised a mass deportation … is someone who is very much peddling bigotry and prejudice and paranoia.”

      • David Doppler
        August 30, 2016, 11:00 am

        Nice quote, JWalters: works for Trump, works for Netanyahu. Why is it okay for Hillary to embrace these traits among Israelis, while condemning them among Americans? “Pay to say?” Or “pay to bray,” maybe?

    • Lillian Rosengarten
      August 30, 2016, 1:16 pm

      What has Hillary to do with Weiner? Everything has to center around bashing Hillary or bashing someone else. How does this help anything except to make our discussions empty and meaningless? Everything is a judgement and completely dumbed down.

      • Mooser
        August 30, 2016, 3:19 pm

        Ms. “Rosengarten”, I suspect the Presidential election is making everybody a little nuts. I know it’s getting to me, so I’m trying to be taciturn. Doesn’t come easily. By nature I’m the weak, voluble type.

    • Rusty Pipes
      August 30, 2016, 8:12 pm

      Abedin and Clinton would have done well to have maintained some clear professional separations. Much as their private lives have made the headlines, this scandal about Weiner’s sexting is minor compared to the role that Abedin had in both the Clinton Foundation and the State Department at the same time. Just another aspect about Clinton’s “carelessness” with classified information and carelessness about the “appearance of impropriety” with donor access.

      • Citizen
        August 31, 2016, 10:08 am

        @ Rusty Pipes
        Yes, Abedin was the key gate-keeper in Clinton Foundation’s pay to play program that’s hot in the news these days on cable TV. She was the conduit to get quick, sure access to Hillary, either before or after the big donor donated to said Foundation. Main media doesn’t care to point out the public creep Abedin’s been married to, nor about his rabid, lying Zionism.

      • mcohen.
        September 6, 2016, 12:00 am

        abedin is the front end of the saudi pipeline into the white house
        the russians oppose this
        more emails to come
        the juicy reverse lewinsky one’s

        the hill(ary)’s are alive with the sound of music.

  2. jsinton
    August 29, 2016, 7:01 pm

    Thank you for educating me. I had no idea.

  3. DaBakr
    August 29, 2016, 7:04 pm

    weiner. how frikkin dumb can one be to get caught showing his weiner by text not once, not twice but thrice in the past few years knowing the press was just laying in wait? guess he couldn’t handle the stress of bearing such a last name and should have done what so many american jews did and anglicize it. though what that might be I have no clue. anthony hotdog? anthony brat? maybe just tony dog(no insult to the 4 legged animal)

    p.s. what i read via wire was the wife was “separating” from her husband and has not yet filed for divorce which your 2nd paragraph states.

    • silamcuz
      August 30, 2016, 2:48 am

      The guy has a lot of deep-seated issues. Let’s not judge unless we are prepared to be judged for our own yet to be exposed flaws.

      • Mooser
        August 30, 2016, 2:23 pm

        “The guy has a lot of deep-seated issues.”

        Oh please “silamcuz”, you know perfectly well what the problem is: “Spare the rod when he plays with his knob and you spoil the Weiner” They should’a smacked some sense into Weiner! ” Is smacking a child any worse than leaving him to degenerate into a beast of an adult, making life hell for who knows how many people? Is castrating a rapist any worse than placing him in a secure cell for a particular length of time?” Look what happens in those wussy Nordic countries!- http://mondoweiss.net/profile/silamcuz/?keyword=violence#sthash.9qCpHUZs.dpuf

  4. Keith
    August 29, 2016, 7:52 pm

    When it comes to Israel and the truth, Anthony Weiner sounds like Hophmi’s kind of guy. Empirical reality is shunned for useful lies on the information battle field.

    As for his future former wife, the following is relevant.

    “Just in case all the political and financial ties between Clinton and the Gulf monarchies wasn’t enough to make people stop being #WithHer, perhaps the role of her closest adviser might do the trick. Huma Abedin, Clinton’s campaign chief of staff, has long-standing ties to Saudi Arabia, the country where Huma spent her childhood from the age of two.” (Eric Draitser) http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/29/hillary-and-the-clinton-foundation-exemplars-of-americas-political-rot/

    Lest anyone be deluded that Saudi influence would counter Israel’s influence, the reality is that Israel and Saudi Arabia have been discretely cooperating for decades, now being more open about it.

    “Saudi Arabia recognizes that Israel is an ally rather than an enemy because of the two principal threats that threaten them, Iran and Daesh,” he (Netanyahu) told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos Friday.

    Both Saudi Arabia and Israel are fiercely opposed to a nuclear accord between Iran and the West which came into force recently. They are worried the agreement could boost Iran’s role in the region.” (PressTV) http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/01/23/446968/Israel-Iran-Saudi-Arabia-Netanyahu/

    There you have it. Both Israel and Saudi Arabia pushing Hillary to attack Iran. Certainly explains her foreign policy choices, doesn’t it?

    • silamcuz
      August 30, 2016, 2:22 am

      “Just in case all the political and financial ties between Clinton and the Gulf monarchies wasn’t enough to make people stop being #WithHer, perhaps the role of her closest adviser might do the trick. Huma Abedin, Clinton’s campaign chief of staff, has long-standing ties to Saudi Arabia, the country where Huma spent her childhood from the age of two.” (Eric Draitser)

      Gulf monarchies have been strongly pro-Palestine and anti-Zionist for decades, even before they got rich and influential from oil reserves. This shows that in the specific pursuit of anti-Zionism, they are valuable allies because they have far more to gain from Israel’s ultimate dissolution than the US, or any other polities apart from the Palestinians themselves.

      Qatar for example, are the sole reason the BDS movement has grown to the massive anti-Zionist, pro-human rights force it is today. If it wasn’t for their generous financial backing and diplomatic support, we would still be relying on stale antisemitism to bring awareness to injustice perpetrated by Israel.

      As such, I would suggest some moderation and reservation against our rather reckless opposition towards the Gulf Monarchies, and possibly even Saudi Arabia.

      • Citizen
        August 31, 2016, 11:11 am

        All the Arab oil rich hereditary monarchies suck up to US regimes to retain wealth and power for themselves, hence they suck up to Israel on the sly as they know who domestically rules US foreign power in the Middle East, but they still have to pretend to hate Israel because their masses are very aware of both (1) the gross wealth gap within their own state, and (2) how nasty Israel treats the Palestinians on the very land they’ve lived on for centuries.

  5. eljay
    August 29, 2016, 8:55 pm

    Some guys just can’t keep it in their pants. Or, errr, avoid taking pictures of it while it’s in there.

    • Mooser
      August 30, 2016, 5:22 pm

      “Some guys just can’t keep it…”

      Chef Rabbi She’esh Bar Kabob’s new non-invasive bris provides at least ritual protection against that sort of thing.

  6. ckg
    August 29, 2016, 9:24 pm

    Well, If he needs an attorney in this marital mess, I’m sure Dershowitz would be happy to represent him pro bono. After all, they both know to keep their underwear on.

  7. Marnie
    August 30, 2016, 12:49 am

    Caption to the Weiner face shot above – ‘Oops, I did it again’

  8. kalithea
    August 30, 2016, 10:56 am

    Weiner is the poster boy for Zionism, but not just because he regurgitates the delusional aspects of Zionism and the lies that Zionism tries to cover up and get away with.

    Weiner is the poster boy for Zionism because he perfectly represents the depravity that Zionism generates because you can’t be a moral person and embrace the injustice and everything indefensible that Zionism generates.

    Weiner is the face of Zionism. Zionism tries to hide that it is really ugly and immoral but like Weiner it too is being exposed for what it really is: depravity parading around as some kind of superior, entitled society still pretending to be the global victims of a present-day, non-existant persecution. In fact it is Zionism doing the persecuting and there is nothing superior or elevated in its moral, ethical or dare I say, spiritual quotient that is in fact non-existant in the staggering hypocrisy that Zionism exudes.

    Weiner is today the unvarnished portrait of Zionism. He is the Dorian Grey of Zionism; the political tool of Zionism unmasked in all its shame.

    • Marnie
      August 30, 2016, 12:09 pm

      absolutely right on.

    • inbound39
      August 30, 2016, 5:55 pm

      That is it in a nutshell. Zionism would have us believe it is perfectly normal to take someones land,subjugate its people,burn teenage Palestinians alive and adults also,demolish their homes and forcibly remove them off their land and its okay. Hold them captive in an open air prison called Gaza and bomb them excessively and repeatedly every two years. Everyone does it apparently….perfectly normal behaviour. And woe betide Palestinians if they should retalliate against such OTT Behaviour……not acceptable. Palestinians should know full well they are supposed to kneel beside trenches in open fields waiting for the Brave IDF to come along and shoot them in the back of the head. I get it….I mean why would anyone get so upset with Israel….why? So unfair….we have it all wrong about Israel.

      • John O
        August 31, 2016, 7:05 am

        From today’s Guardian:

        “Israel’s most senior police officer has provoked outrage by suggesting it is “natural” for officers to suspect Israelis of Ethiopian origin – as well as Arabs – of being more involved in crime than other Jews. …

        Asked about allegations of Israeli police violence against Ethiopians, Alsheich said: “In all criminological studies around the world it is proven that immigrants are more involved in crime than others, and this should not surprise us.”

        I don’t suppose he does irony – the irony of being part of a nation created by generations of immigrants to Palestine.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/31/israel-police-chief-roni-alsheich-natural-suspect-ethiopians-crime

    • lonely rico
      August 31, 2016, 12:29 pm

      > kalithea

      Zionism … depravity parading around as some kind of superior, entitled society still pretending to be the global victims of a present-day, non-existant persecution. In fact it is Zionism doing the persecuting and there is nothing superior or elevated in its moral, ethical or dare I say, spiritual quotient that is in fact non-existant in the staggering hypocrisy that Zionism exudes.

      WOW ! Right outta the ball park kalithea !

  9. silamcuz
    August 30, 2016, 11:27 am

    Huma Abedin dumps Anthony Weiner, occupation denier

    How old is the headline writer? 24? The dissolution of marriage is not something to joke about, regardless of the individuals involved in it. The failure of sticking through till the end represent her loss just as much the guy she “dumps”, for it essentially turned all the years fighting and struggling for maintain the relationship to nothing.

    Maybe one day when you get “dumped” you’d figure it out yourself.

    • Mooser
      August 30, 2016, 5:15 pm

      “The failure of sticking through till the end represent her loss just as much the guy…

      Oh, you bet! Why, years from now Huma Abedin will sit alone in her house, looking at Anthony’s old sext messages and sobbing”I had him, he was mine, this prince of husbands, and fickle fool that I am, I let him go!” You bet.

      “The dissolution of marriage is not something to joke about…”

      And who would expect a marriage to break up over something trivial like this? She should’ve kept a stiff upper lip and smiled on through, like Hilary did!

      • silamcuz
        August 31, 2016, 1:22 am

        Oh, you bet! Why, years from now Huma Abedin will sit alone in her house, looking at Anthony’s old sext messages and sobbing”I had him, he was mine, this prince of husbands, and fickle fool that I am, I let him go!” You bet.

        Humans by definition are flawed creatures. If it’s not sexting, then it’s alcoholism, anger issues, laziness, infidelity, immaturity or any one of the thousands of things that can be the dealbreaker when it comes to your partner. You will never find a perfect husband or wife with no issues or inner demons, not on this Earth.

        So it’s not about letting a person go. It’s about holding on to your covenant with God to be with the person you married through thick or thin, through joy and hardship.

      • Mooser
        August 31, 2016, 12:35 pm

        “You will never find a perfect husband…”

        My wife says she has.
        Told me so this morning when she brought me my coffee before she left for work at the uranium mine. Says I’m her trophy husband.

      • RoHa
        August 31, 2016, 1:15 pm

        My says she has found the perfect husband as well. The problem is that he’s married to someone else, and she’s stuck with me.

    • Froggy
      August 30, 2016, 7:15 pm

      I can’t imagine staying married to such an… erm… putz.

      Look, sometimes the best thing a person can do is to cut his/her losses.

      • echinococcus
        August 31, 2016, 12:29 am

        But Froggy, in this case deciding which side has more… Putzigkeit looks like an impossible job. Paraphrasing an old French saying I’ll propose that, as sleaze is infinite we are watching a race in the realm outside human bounds. Weiner’s sexting is not even part of the equation.

    • Marnie
      August 30, 2016, 11:58 pm

      This isn’t about you silamcuz or how you’d deal with a spouse who can’t stop playing look what I got! ‘That’ is supposed to be for his wife’s eyes only. Their son will suffer the loss of his father, but the father did this business while his son was lying right next to him. For that alone she should leave him.

      • silamcuz
        August 31, 2016, 9:33 am

        Whilst I support her right to leave or end the marriage, I disagree with the mindset that if your spouse mess up, then its divorce. I mean if this is the mindset you hold, why even get married in the first place?

        In my view, she should have stayed and hold Weiner accountable to his indiscretions by making him attend therapy, offer a public apology and make reparations to the victim(s) among other tactics to restore justice within the marriage.

        Ending the marriage however, says more towards her own inability or unwillingness to keep her spouse accountable to his action. It is akin to giving up and calling it quits,breaking your own oaths before God.

      • Citizen
        August 31, 2016, 10:35 am

        Hillary is the cherished mentor of her Indian/Pakistani gate keeper/turnkey, Abedin; Abedin worked for big donations to Clinton Foundation, she worked four jobs while Hillary was at State Dept, straddling, cashing in on State Dept-private company agendas, synchronizing them. As mentor, I’m sure Hillary told Abedin all about the pros and cons of “standing by your man,” no matter how disgusting and disloyal your man is…Now, we see, thanks to Abedin’s man’s continuing nastiness, Abedin has finally separated from him. I guess Abedin isn’t as politically ambitious as Hillary. Or she doesn’t want her child to grow up and be like Chelsea Clinton.

      • Marnie
        August 31, 2016, 12:30 pm

        Well, I’m glad you aren’t God as I believe God is more compassionate and forgiving than his children are to each other.

        She’s given him a chance to be her husband and not play the dong show whenever the urge hits him. He pulled this stunt right next to his child FFS and made him part of his exhibitionism.

        You can lead a weiner to a therapist, I suppose, but you can’t make it change. Do you know anything about compulsive disorders or addictive behaviors?

        Can you appreciate how humiliating this must be? Just because HRC stood by her man, doesn’t mean everyone should and I think she was thinking about the White House and maybe didn’t want to be the first woman presidential hopeful who divorced her adulterous SOB because of facing reactions just like yours.

        Why is it okay for a man to be a whore?

        If he beat the hell out of her every night, would you sing the same song? I’m guessing you would, because an oath trumps behavior, right?

      • Teapot
        August 31, 2016, 12:47 pm

        @silamcuz

        If you want to bring God and religion into this… Huma Abedin is Muslim and Islam allows divorce. She isn’t breaking any sort of “covenant” with God.

        Also, why are we discussing this woman’s marriage? Aren’t there more important things to talk about?

      • Annie Robbins
        August 31, 2016, 12:59 pm

        Ending the marriage however, says more towards her own inability or unwillingness to keep her spouse accountable to his action.

        it’s not her role, responsibility or duty to “keep” him accountable. besides, for a repeat offender, if you’ve informed him before if he does that again she’ll leave him then divorce is one way of holding him accountable. your sentence implies there’s some flaw in her (inability or unwillingness) because of his actions — or his inability or unwillingness.

      • Mooser
        August 31, 2016, 1:10 pm

        “to keep her spouse accountable to his action.”

        Oh, there may be some accounting needed to settle this. Possibly two independent firms.

        Now that “Silamcuz” has convinced us he is a “progressive” and “advocate for POC”, I guess it’s time for him to establish his feminist boner fides

      • RoHa
        August 31, 2016, 1:18 pm

        Marnie, if God were at all compassionate, we wouldn’t get fat, and bald, and old, and die. And chocolate cake would be health food.

      • Mooser
        August 31, 2016, 1:22 pm

        “Well, I’m glad you aren’t God”

        You will never convince “Silamcuz” of that. He seems incontestably convinced of his own omniscience and omnipotence.

      • Mooser
        August 31, 2016, 1:28 pm

        “a spouse who can’t stop playing look what I got!”

        Weiner’s taking a heck of a risk. What if somebody e-mails him back a picture of the real thing, and sends him plummeting into a deep depression. And on top of that, a divorce? He likes to live dangerously.

      • silamcuz
        August 31, 2016, 1:39 pm

        Marnie,

        She’s given him a chance to be her husband and not play the dong show whenever the urge hits him. He pulled this stunt right next to his child FFS and made him part of his exhibitionism.

        We already know what he did was disgusting and awful. I’m not trying in any way to excuse the behavior of Weiner nor to diminish the extent of his wrongdoings. He needs to be accountable for his actions and Huma as wife should ideally play a role in facilitating this to happen.

        You can lead a weiner to a therapist, I suppose, but you can’t make it change. Do you know anything about compulsive disorders or addictive behaviors?

        Can you appreciate how humiliating this must be? Just because HRC stood by her man, doesn’t mean everyone should

        Therapy is just an example. To be honest I wouldn’t know what would be the steps to remedy his indiscretions and change his behavior, since the victims in this include Huma herself along with whoever Weiner sexted. The harms that need to be repaired and healed are known only to the victims so it’s up to them to help Weiner make amends as appropriate. As for changing his behavior, again this a complex challenge, but ending the marriage definitely would not be part of the solution.

        As for the humiliation, I have no doubt how bad it must have been for Huma especially considering her very public-orientated career and life, and the scale of public exposure of her ex-husband’s misdeeds. I can’t even imagine the hell Hillary must’ve gone through, through the course of her marriage with Bill.

        But at the end of the day, they were a married couple and this was their times of tribulation. She should have remembered her oath to be there for him through the hard times as well as through happy ones. You know, the bit about the better, the worse, in sickness in health etc etc. Sickness doesn’t just mean getting the flu. What Weiner is going through now is also a form of sickness, albeit one which is probably harming others more than him.

      • silamcuz
        August 31, 2016, 1:55 pm

        it’s not her role, responsibility or duty to “keep” him accountable.

        I strongly disagree.

        As the one who choose to enter a marriage with him, it is part of her responsiblity to hold him accountable to his actions, just as Weiner is responsible in holding Huma accountable to her actions as her husband. This is practically the core function of marriage, as a human institution because we assume humans are never infallible and no one is capable of being good purely by him or herself.

      • silamcuz
        August 31, 2016, 2:00 pm

        If you want to bring God and religion into this… Huma Abedin is Muslim and Islam allows divorce. She isn’t breaking any sort of “covenant” with God.

        This is not about being able to leave the marriage or otherwise. We are discussing the ethics of such choice being made and its wider implication on society, which Huma as a politician must be aware of.

      • Marnie
        August 31, 2016, 2:59 pm

        I won’t waste any more time on this matter with you silamcuz. It, like Huma’s marriage to the weiner, is over.

        I asked you if you’d feel the same if weiner beat her all the time and she finally decided to leave him but you didn’t answer that.

        As you seem to be saying it is Huma’s duty to stick with that sorry cocktail weinie of a man she married (and since I wasn’t present at the ceremony, I don’t know if oaths were exchanged, but how about being FAITHFUL), there’s nothing more to say.

        “Whilst I support her right to leave or end the marriage, I disagree with the mindset that if your spouse mess up, then its divorce.”

        It could be there is even more to this story than is being reported, ya think? Who is anyone outside the actual adults involved, to decide when someone can pull the plug on their marriage? Give it a rest; there are more important things going on.

      • Marnie
        August 31, 2016, 3:04 pm

        Mooser
        “Weiner’s taking a heck of a risk. What if somebody e-mails him back a picture of the real thing, and sends him plummeting into a deep depression. And on top of that, a divorce? He likes to live dangerously.”

        If only Samson were still around.

      • echinococcus
        August 31, 2016, 3:16 pm

        Can we finally please stop feeding the animals? Simba Cruz is having the time of his life deviating every single goddam trend to the sanctity of marriage or the principles of Christian charity or whatever your kindergarten marm taught you about manners. Once is good for fun, twice is a riot, more is plenty enough.

      • Teapot
        August 31, 2016, 3:20 pm

        We are discussing the ethics of such choice being made and its wider implication on society, which Huma as a politician must be aware of.

        I agree. I think Ms. Abedin is setting a positive example for young women by showing them that you do not have to put up with everything your husband does. There’s still a massive double standard in what we expect from women and men when it comes to marriage. But women don’t have to play along. This is the 21st century and we’re free to live our lives the way we want.

        P.S. Your ‘progressive’ shtick would be a little more believable if you didn’t spout opinions usually heard from Ted Cruz supporters.

      • oldgeezer
        August 31, 2016, 3:20 pm

        @silam

        Give it a rest. She doesn’t need your approval. You are an authority and legend only in your own mind. And I’m glad for that as your views are far too twisted, if real.

        The woman deserves full credit for trying this long and now cutting her losses.

      • Mooser
        August 31, 2016, 4:12 pm

        ” We are discussing the ethics of such choice being made and its wider implication on society,”

        In order to do that we will just have to see the original pictures of Weiner’s wacker, and only then can we answer the one question the Rabbi says really matters.

      • Mooser
        August 31, 2016, 4:28 pm

        “You are an authority and legend only in your own mind.”

        And it’s pretty easy to tell how much experience “Silamsez” has with matrimony.

        “Silamsez” defends Weiner because Weiner has the correct views on Israel and Zionism.

      • Bumblebye
        August 31, 2016, 4:58 pm

        @Mooser

        but you’re far too much of a gentleman to disillusion poor Wiener by sending him your pics!

      • Mooser
        August 31, 2016, 5:46 pm

        “disillusion poor Wiener”

        I’m in no position to do that.

      • silamcuz
        August 31, 2016, 9:51 pm

        Why is it okay for a man to be a whore?

        It’s never okay if the man is in a monogamous marriage with another person.

        If he beat the hell out of her every night, would you sing the same song? I’m guessing you would, because an oath trumps behavior, right?

        She should take all the necessary steps to defend herself and her children, by calling the cops on him and possibly obtain a restraining order while she figures out a way to handle the root cause of the violence. Maybe even get herself a personal defense weapon without his knowledge. Anything that will make him realize his mistakes, and start repairing the harm he caused.

        If she really wanted to help keep the man she took an oath to stay with til death do them apart accountable, there will be millions of ways to do it. The question is, does she want to?

      • oldgeezer
        August 31, 2016, 11:41 pm

        @silam

        Till death do us part is not a mandatory part of civil (and even many religious) weddings. Regardless the bonds were already broken by him.

        Get out of parents basement from time to time.

      • Mooser
        September 1, 2016, 4:08 pm

        “Get out of parents basement from time to time.”

        Really, “Silamsez” could get a much better perspective on a lot of these questions if he simply asked his wife or girlfriend. Or both.

  10. James Canning
    August 30, 2016, 1:29 pm

    Weiner’s attempt to deny the existence of Israeli occupation of the West Bank ought to have been a story covered by the NYT et al.

  11. oldgeezer
    August 31, 2016, 2:57 pm

    Wilson, you shouldn’t smoke. It is bad for you and will bring you into contact with all sorts of unsavoury characters as you now know.

  12. catalan
    August 31, 2016, 4:36 pm

    This whole business of linking Weiners personal indiscretions to his political views re Israel is classless. So the guy was looking for some action outside of what is proper in this country. Big deal. It is not like he had a dungeon where he kept women for flailing. He sent some photos to some cuties online.
    Of course his views on Israel can and should be subject to criticism but this…one would expect this from the likes of Mooser or talknic but Phil?!?
    Didn’t Jesus teach about the first stone and about the splinter in the eye? So next time a supporter of Palestine turns out to be a pedophile that would invalidate the whole BDS movement?!?

    • Mooser
      August 31, 2016, 6:19 pm

      “So next time a supporter of Palestine turns out to be a pedophile…”

      “So next time”? When was the first time, or the numerous other times?

    • kalithea
      August 31, 2016, 8:29 pm

      First of all, it’s very hypocritical to bring Jesus into this when you do nothing but paint the immoral Zionist crime with the hasbara-lite brush to mitigate the crime. You think you’re not transparent, but your Zionism-lite glows like kryptonite. You pretend like no Jew should be singled out as a Zionist by making it seem like everyone does this migrate so why single out members of your tribe: everyone settles elsewhere; feigning ignorance or diluting the crime called Zionism at its inception giving rise to a modern-day war crime of massive ethnic cleansing proportions that to this day has been dismissed and suppressed i.e. the Nakba, and multiple war crimes engendered since by Zionism for decades to the present against Palestinians with complete impunity (including the racist no-return for the dispossessed).

      So next time a supporter of Palestine turns out to be a pedophile that would invalidate the whole BDS movement? Here’s the flaw in your distorted analogy, the fly in the patronizing hasbara slop.

      BDS is a non-violent movement for justice while Zionism is a wall of violent force and injustice; a cruel weapon of colonisation leading to forcible dispossession of others. So for me to choose to equate an individual’s personal depravity to the depravity inherent with Zionism is cogent symbolism of the spiritual decline Zionism produces in those who embrace it. Even if Weiner were a saint in his private life; Zionism would still be the hateful crime that is perpetually generating injustice. So his saintliness would be stained by his support for Zionism. A fatal error in judgment.

      However, if a pedophile choses to support BDS, that would not make BDS any less redeeming in its objective to bring about justice for millions of human beings i.e. Palestinians, since the cause is great, beyond the flaws of any of its members, just as a pedophile priest or priests didn’t succeed in the destruction of the Christian cornerstone upon which the Church was founded and built upon, first by Peter and today continued by Francis, the present leader of 1.2 billion faithful. The cause survives because it elevates the spirit in the service of mankind.

      The difference here being the cause must have the power to redeem and Zionism, the cause of Zionists, is but a generator of moral decline therefore in the case of Zionism, associating the depravity of one or more of its members to the depraved cause inflicting injustice on millions, is potent symbolism for the spiritual decline of those who push deception, hypocrisy and propaganda to perpetuate evil against a part of humanity.

    • talknic
      September 1, 2016, 2:17 am

      “one would expect this from the likes of … talknic … “

      Another Zionasty making another stupid accusation by unsupported inference is quite amusing.

    • Marnie
      September 1, 2016, 4:25 am

      ‘It is not like he had a dungeon where he kept women for flailing. He sent some photos to some cuties online.’

      What a weird comparison. No, he prefers to self-flail and then send the unsolicited graphics to women. There are millions of reasons to hate social media; this is only one.
      Online Harassment: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver … – YouTube

      • catalan
        September 1, 2016, 10:55 am

        Marnie,
        I never took Phil for a Puritan. There is a video of him on some site about geniuses praising the French attitude towards having a few things going at the same time. I am with him too, the US is crazy about all this kind of sexual stuff. Like I said, most men have a weakness or too, I for sure have no say in the morality front as I have done many things I regret.
        And what is the word Zionist having to do with any of this? I am not a Zionist in the sense of some ideology. I care about individual liberty, the environment, and freedom of movement.
        Just because I like Israel where I know many nice people does not make me a Zionist. I also like Russia, France and pretty much everyone else with the exceptions of some sadistic places.

      • talknic
        September 1, 2016, 10:02 pm

        @ catalan

        “I care about individual liberty, the environment, and freedom of movement.”

        Very nice

        “Just because I like Israel … “

        Oh … This Israel?

        1. Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;

        2. Strongly deplores the continued refusal of Israel, the occupying Power, to comply with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council and the General Assembly;

        3. Reconfirms that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal validity and constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;
        http://wp.me/pDB7k-W8

        The irony of what some folk write is startling

  13. kalithea
    September 1, 2016, 7:56 pm

    @catalan

    Just because I like Israel where I know many nice people does not make me a Zionist. I also like Russia, France and pretty much everyone else with the exceptions of some sadistic places.

    You like Israel, eh? And it’s not a sadistic place, eh? But Israelis are using Palestinians for target practice while they’re under military occupation and oppression. Israel’s soooo nice huh? Palestinian children and the disabled are locked up and denied justice in Israel. Nooooh, that’s not a sadistic place from your limited, biased view.

    If you’re not a Zionist…you sure do a great imitation whitewashing everything Zionist.

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