Dozens of Spanish cities declare themselves ‘Free of Israeli Apartheid’

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An unprecedented victory for the BDS movement and for Palestine solidarity groups across the Spanish state that have prevailed against relentless Israel lobby attempts to intimidate them into silence through propaganda and expensive court cases …

Ironically, Netanyahu has recently boasted that Israel has effectively “defeated” the BDS movement. My personal reaction to the media at the time was:

“Netanyahu’s peculiar claim that his government has defeated the BDS movement would have been worthy of a serious response if it weren’t so outlandish, false and laughable.

The claim comes in direct response to a professional report issued by the Israeli state comptroller accusing the Netanyahu government of utter “failure” in responding to the impressive growth of the BDS movement in recent years.

Despite its undeniable influence in the US Congress and, by extension, in Brussels and other world capitals, the fact that most in the Israeli establishment recognize today is that BDS is winning at the grassroots level, where Israel is losing the global battle for hearts and minds. It is in this arena where our possession of the moral higher ground trumps Israel’s military, financial and political prowess, which is deemed irrelevant.

A quick look at the top 11 achievements of BDS since the beginning of 2016, during the height of Israel’s war of repression and lawfare against the movement, reveals how fast the movement is growing. It also reveals how delusional Netanyahu has become in his desperate attempt to deflect internal condemnation of his failure to stop BDS.”

The inspiring news below from the Spanish state will amplify not only the delusional state of Israel’s far-right leaders but also their deep-seated  — and now famed — aversion to the truth!

— Omar Barghouti

Cadiz, provincial capital in the autonomous community of Andalusia in the Spanish state, has become the latest municipality to pass a motion supporting the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement for Palestinian rights and declaring itself an Israeli “Apartheid Free Zone”.

With a population of 120,000, Cadiz joins more than 50 cities and towns across the Spanish state which have voted to declare themselves spaces free from Israeli apartheid. Other famous Apartheid Free municipalities include Gran Canaria, Santiago de Compostela, Xixón-Gijón, Sevilla, Córdoba and Santa Eulària in Ibiza.

Inspired in part by a similar campaign during the struggle against apartheid in South Africa in the 1980s, the Israeli Apartheid Free Zone campaign, led by the Solidarity Network Against the Occupation of Palestine (RESCOP), seeks to create ‘islands of political consciousness’ and to break local ties with Israel’s regime of occupation, settler-colonialism and apartheid, as well as with international corporations and institutions that are complicit in the maintenance of Israel’s violations of international law.

The campaign, which is supported  by  social movements, businesses, schools, media and public institutions from across the Spanish state, has created a map indicating spaces free from Israeli apartheid.

Map of Israeli Apartheid Free space (HALS) (Screenshot: boicotisrael.net/elai/mapa/)

Map of Israeli Apartheid Free space (HALS) (Screenshot: boicotisrael.net/elai/mapa/)

By declaring themselves Israeli Apartheid Free Zones, local authorities agree to boycott corporations complicit in violations of international law and the rights of Palestinians as well as break ties with the Israeli regime and its complicit institutions. They will also support local awareness raising efforts and commit to conscientious procurement policies based on the human rights of the Palestinian people.

Riya Hassan, European coordinator for the Palestinians BDS National Committee (BNC), said:

“The Israeli Apartheid Free Zones campaign across the Spanish state is inspiring similar efforts in other countries.  The fact that these declarations have been voted by democratically elected municipalities reflect  the growing support for the BDS movement for Palestinian rights, not just at the grassroots level but also within governments. This will eventually steer public opinion in favor of comprehensive sanctions on Israel until it end its systematic oppression of Palestinians.“

“Local councils in the Spanish state are leading the way with a powerful model of  solidarity with the Palestinian people and our struggle for self-determination. We salute all councilors and activists involved in proposing and defending the motions and those involved in the implementation of the Israeli apartheid-free zones.”

“At a time of a growing democratic deficit across the European continent, it is empowering to witness how citizens are integrating solidarity with Palestinians with  domestic agendas that promote social, economic and environmental justice.”

Attacks on a movement for freedom, justice and equality

Growing public support for the BDS movement for Palestinian human rights has prompted Israel and its allies to launch an unprecedented, well-funded and anti-democratic attack against everyone seeking to hold Israel accountable to international law and UN resolutions, especially through BDS advocacy.

The Israeli-sponsored attacks on the BDS movement aim to put pressure on governments, legislators and officials to curtail BDS civic actions and adopt repressive measures that infringe upon their respective citizens’ civil and political liberties at large.

In the Spanish state, attempts to silence the BDS movement, particularly on an institutional level, have been led by ACOM, a pro-Israeli Madrid-based lobby group.

ACOM has launched a number of legal appeals against local councils that have declared themselves Israeli Apartheid Free Zones.

However, ACOM’s strategy of intimidation has not been successful. Targeted cities have defended the democratic outcome of the votes, and informed courts, such as  the First Administrative Court of Gijon, refused to accept ACOM’s complaints.

Similar legal charges were lodged against three local councils in the UK by the  so-called Jewish Human Rights Watch, a London based Israel lobby group. Also there, the UK High Court rejected the complaints and ruled in favour of the three local councils which had passed resolutions in support of targeted boycotts of Israel’s occupation.

RESCOP commented in a statement: :

“It is intolerable that a foreign entity defending a system of apartheid, such as ACOM, should interfere in the democratic sovereignty of our municipalities, dictating what we can vote for and what not, and preventing our institutions from being committed to human rights.”

This latest decision by the city of Cadiz to join the inspiring wave of other Spanish cities and towns in declaring themselves zones free from Israeli apartheid is a sign that citizens and elected representatives are not intimidated by ACOM’s legal threats.

“By supporting the BDS movement for Palestinian rights and choosing not to engage with institutions and corporations directly involved in Israel’s egregious crimes against the Palestinian people, people of conscience and municipalities across the Spanish state are taking a concrete step to hold Israel accountable  for its crimes against the Palestinian people,” Riya Hassan concluded.

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LIST OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATIONS DECLARED ELAI AND / OR ADHERED TO BDS IN THE SPANISH STATE (until August 11, 2016)

Andalucía

Diputación de Sevilla

Ayuntamiento de La Roda

Ayuntamiento Castro del Río

Ayunamiento de Montoro

Ayuntamiento de Mairena del Aljarafe

Ayuntamiento Los Corrales

Ayuntamiento Alhaurín de la Torre

Ayuntamiento de Campillos

Ayuntamiento de Casares

Diputación de Córdoba

Ayuntamiento de Velvez-Málaga

Ayuntamiento de San Roque

Ayuntamiento de San Fernando

Catalunya

Ajuntament de Artés

Ajuntament de Sant Pere de Ruidebitlles

Ajuntament de Molins de Rei

Ajuntament de Sant Cebriá de Vallalta

Ajuntamnet de Badalona

Ajuntament de Sant Celoni

Ajuntament de Ripollet

Ajuntament de Sant Feliu de Llobregat

Ajuntament de Abrera

Ajuntament de Sant Boi de Llobregat

Ajuntament de Terrasa

Ajuntament de Olesa de Montserrat

Ajuntament de Sant Adrià de Besòs

Ajuntament de Sant Quirze del Vallès

Ajuntament de Barberá del Vallès

Ajuntament de Viladamat

Madrid

Ayuntamiento de Navalafuente

Ayuntamiento de Rivas-Vaciamadrid

Asturies

Ayuntamiento de Corvera

Ayuntamiento de Castrillón

Ayuntamiento de Gijón

Ayuntamieno de Llangreu

Galiza

O Concello de Compostela

Concello de Oleiros

Islas Canarias

Cabildo de Gran Canaria

Ayuntamiento de Telde

Aragón

Ayuntamiento de Sabiñánigo

País Valencià

Ajuntament de Alcoi

Ajuntament de Muro

Ajuntament de Onda

Ajuntament de Concentaina

Ajuntament de Catarroja

Ajuntament de Xeraco

Ajuntament de Benlloch

Ajuntament de Petrer

Castilla y León

Ayuntamiento de Viloria del Henar

Illes Balears

Ajuntament de Santa Euràlia

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61 Responses

  1. Citizen
    September 9, 2016, 11:55 am

    While the world watches US POTUS top candidates compete to show they Love Israel uber alles!

  2. Annie Robbins
    September 9, 2016, 12:02 pm

    great time to holiday in spain.

  3. Kay24
    September 9, 2016, 2:40 pm

    Did I miss it, or has Barcelona still not passed that resolution?

    I doubt we will see a similar map of the US showing where people have had the courage to stand up to the apartheid nation.

  4. talknic
    September 9, 2016, 2:42 pm

    Bravo!

  5. eljay
    September 9, 2016, 4:07 pm

    … Growing public support for the BDS movement for Palestinian human rights has prompted Israel and its allies to launch an unprecedented, well-funded and anti-democratic attack against everyone seeking to hold Israel accountable to international law and UN resolutions, especially through BDS advocacy. …

    Every day, hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists and the “Jewish State” do their best to undermine international laws and human rights and the protections they are meant to afford all people including Jewish citizens of homelands all over the world.

    Why do Zio-supremacists hate Jews so much?!

    • kalithea
      September 9, 2016, 9:39 pm

      Why do Zio-supremacists hate Jews so much?!

      Because once their self-fulfilling prophecy materializes, then they can justify their crimes with We told you so. In other words they will prove they’re still society’s victims. It’s a win-win strategy to legitimize crimes against millions of others on behalf of the greater good called Zionism.

  6. yonah fredman
    September 9, 2016, 4:58 pm

    Because it is Spain I am reminded of the category that the Spanish came up with: “limpieza de sangre”.

    • kalithea
      September 9, 2016, 9:32 pm

      Yeah you would dredge up shit from the dark ages to justify Zionist crimes in modern history. It speaks volumes about who you are right now and not who Spaniards in the 21st Century are. Zionist crimes will be the downfall of Zionism and nothing else!

      • yonah fredman
        September 9, 2016, 10:45 pm

        When the Jewish population of Spain in some future year matches the Jewish population of Spain in 1492, I’ll consider the middle ages to be in the past tense.

      • Mooser
        September 10, 2016, 12:16 pm

        “When the Jewish population of Spain in some future year matches the Jewish population of Spain in 1492, I’ll consider the middle ages to be in the past tense.”

        And Time is stuck in the starting blocks until “Yonah” gives it permission to move! ROTLMSJAO!

        Well, at least I know what to get “Yonah” for Hanukkah. I’ll send him an alchemistry set.

      • echinococcus
        September 10, 2016, 2:32 pm

        Fredman again:

        “When the Jewish population of Spain in some future year matches the Jewish population of Spain in 1492, I’ll consider the middle ages to be in the past tense.”

        Except that the expulsion of Mozarabes and Jews from Spain coincided, as any elementary school textbook will indicate, with the end of said Middle Ages.

        So we can take it from you that prior to the Reconquista, Middle Ages Spain was the ideal state for Jews, i.e. under a (typically) tolerant Muslim regime.

      • eljay
        September 10, 2016, 4:04 pm

        || yonah fredman: When the Jewish population of Spain in some future year matches the Jewish population of Spain in 1492, I’ll consider the middle ages to be in the past tense. ||

        So we’re still living in the Middle Ages? Huh. Well, that certainly goes a long way toward explaining the barbaric and backward thinking of Zio-supremacists.

      • Mikhael
        September 12, 2016, 4:46 am

        Talkback September 10, 2016, 4:48 am
        Because it is about Israel I am reminded of the fact that you can’t intermerriage in Israel and we all know that it is for the same reasons.

        Except marriages between Israeli citizens of who belong to different nationalities and different confessions are in fact legally recognized in Israel, although if they are between members of different confessions the marriages must be solemnized abroad due to the absence of civil marriage in Israel. So why lie so much?

    • Talkback
      September 10, 2016, 4:48 am

      yonah fredman: “Because it is Spain I am reminded of the category that the Spanish came up with: “limpieza de sangre”.

      Because it is about Israel I am reminded of the fact that you can’t intermerriage in Israel and we all know that it is for the same reasons.

      And because it is about Zionism I am reminded of the fact that Zionists eugenics pre-date Nazi eugenics:

      “Do Not Have Children if They Won’t Be Healthy!’

      A shocking new study reveals how key figures in the pre-state Zionist establishment proposed castrating the mentally ill, sterilizing the poor and doing everything possible to ensure reproduction only among the `best of people.’
      http://www.haaretz.com/do-not-have-children-if-they-won-t-be-healthy-1.124913

      • talknic
        September 10, 2016, 6:29 am

        None of the usual comments on the Haaretz article http://www.haaretz.com/do-not-have-children-if-they-won-t-be-healthy-1.124913 … I wonder why

      • echinococcus
        September 10, 2016, 2:53 pm

        Let’s repeat, because it really deserves being underlined: “limpieza de sangre” is the entire Zionist ideology in a capsule, only lacking the precise geographical location. Not only the most extreme forms of theocratic oppression.

      • Mooser
        September 12, 2016, 4:32 pm

        “limpieza de sangre” is the entire Zionist ideology in a capsule”

        “Yonah” has still not learned to listen for the small, sweet, still sound of his comments stepping in a steaming pile.

    • K Renner
      September 20, 2016, 10:26 am

      @Hasbarat:

      Yawn. Go cry about it somewhere else.

      Fewer and fewer people the world over have any time for bleating cries of “anti-Semitism!” without any basis from the sniveling pro-Israel and Palestinian-hating camp.

      The fact that you have to go back some 550 years to try and whine at the Spaniards just shows how pathetic you are.

  7. Mooser
    September 9, 2016, 8:10 pm

    “Because it is Spain I am reminded of the category that the Spanish came up with: “limpieza de sangre” “

    And be cause it’s you “Yonah”, I’m reminded of two categories we came up with: “Silent Holocaust” and “brit periah”.

    Oh, BTW, “Yonah” what the Hebrew for “hybrid vigor”?

  8. echinococcus
    September 9, 2016, 8:31 pm

    Despicable Fredman,

    One thing that is absolutely certain is that whichever Spaniards passed these resolutions are firmly opposed to such racist, murderous concepts like “limpieza de sangre” that in fact summarizes in a phrase all your Zionist ideology. Otherwise they would have voted against it.

    Is your racist way of throwing scandalous, revolting accusations at people based only on your fantasy of what should correspond to some national character just common Zionist vile practice, or are you also some kind of US skinhead?

  9. mcohen.
    September 10, 2016, 2:01 am

    here is a interesting story from forward msgazine

    put a smile on my dial

    The press conference announcing the citizen ship proposal took place in the third week of November 2012. In the fourth week, Spain voted to accept Palestine as an observer state at the United Nations.

    The Palestinian observer status fight was one of those chapters in the Middle East conflict that launches a thousand dire op-eds and then fades quickly into a half-remembered muck of old diplomatic scuffles. The question was whether Palestine should be recognized as a non-member observer state at the U.N.; the answer, for most countries besides the United States, Israel, Canada, Panama, some tiny islands in the Pacific, and the Czech Republic was, “Yes.” (Another 41 countries abstained, including Germany, the U.K., Australia, and some more tiny islands.)

    The United States and Israel pressured their allies to oppose the measure. Most supported it anyway. But in Madrid, the diplomatic assault may have had some unintended consequences.

    “Was it a coincidence or no, we don’t know,” said Royo. “The thing is that a year has passed and nothing has happened.”

    Had I flown to Spain to chase down some ministerial feint invented to distract American Jews from a U.N. vote? Something the Spanish authorities thought we would forget about before they actually needed to follow through?

  10. Talkback
    September 10, 2016, 6:22 am

    But isn’t this “unilateral” move? How can they declare to be souvereign from Israel without its consent? That’s against peace and “freedom terrorism”.

    Israel sould immediately support citizens of states who claim Spain to be their or their ancestor’s homeland and a right for their return. Let’s start with Mexico.

  11. Kay24
    September 10, 2016, 6:50 am

    So the US is outraged over Netanyahu’s ethnic cleaning video, yet has increased the charity that goes Israel’s way and keeps sending weapons to kill civilians. I am tired of the good cop/bad cop routine.

    “U.S. Slams Netanyahu’s ‘Ethnic Cleansing’ Video, Calling It ‘Inappropriate and Unhelpful’
    In the video, Netanyahu hinted that the U.S. and other countries that support the uprooting of Israeli West Bank settlements as part of a deal establishing a Palestinian state were supporting the ethnic cleansing of Jews.”

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.741213

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.741213

  12. Jackdaw
    September 10, 2016, 2:52 pm

    The Spaniards are quite delusional if they think that throwing Israel under the bus is going to save them from Islamist terrorism, regional sectarianism, a weakening E.U. or the effects of global warming.

    Throwing bones to dogs.

    • eljay
      September 10, 2016, 4:00 pm

      || Jackdaw: The Spaniards are quite delusional if they think that throwing Israel under the bus is going to save them from Islamist terrorism, regional sectarianism, a weakening E.U. or the effects of global warming. … ||

      Zio-supremacists are the delusional ones if they think that by aiding and abetting the colonialist, (war) criminal and religion-supremacist state of Israel the Spaniards will save themselves from “Islamist terrorism, regional sectarianism, a weakening E.U. or the effects of global warming”.

      The Spaniards have chosen to support justice, equality and human rights. It figures that a Zio-supremacist would find that offensive.

    • echinococcus
      September 10, 2016, 4:22 pm

      What “bus”? Of course only a moron would think that what you call “Islamic terrorism” can stop as long as the USrael war of aggression continues.

    • John O
      September 10, 2016, 5:29 pm

      You would be right, Corvus monedula, if that’s what they think. But that’s not what they think. They think Israel treats the indigenous people of the place where they have chosen to settle abominably. And they are right. And they are doing something about it.

      • Jackdaw
        September 11, 2016, 12:29 am

        @John Ooze

        Actually, the Jews are the indigenous people of the area. Try to disprove that fact. The Arabs came from Arabia and conquered the land much like the Conquistadores came from Spain and savagely colonized the New World.

        All the Jews did, besides long for Zion, was accept the offer made to them by the League of Nations, and return to Zion.

        You got a problem with that?

      • echinococcus
        September 11, 2016, 2:34 pm

        “got a problem with that?”

        Certainly. Even a small kid told fairy tales would be retarded to believe it.

      • talknic
        September 11, 2016, 10:19 pm

        @ Jackdaw “Actually, the Jews are the indigenous people of the area. Try to disprove that fact.”

        Oh FFS. It’s disproved by the scriptures you putz. King David conquered someone, they certainly weren’t Jewish

        ” The Arabs came from Arabia and conquered the land much like the Conquistadores came from Spain and savagely colonized the New World”

        Neither were a majority replacing the indigenous populations. The Zionist Colonial pyramid scheme requires the dispossession of non-Jews in order to have a majority of Jews

        “All the Jews did, besides long for Zion, was accept the offer made to them by the League of Nations, and return to Zion”

        The offer was to settle in Palestine as citizens of Palestine. Article 7 LoN Mandate for Palestine http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp#art7

        So it wasn’t all they did. The Jewish Agency demanded and lied to get a Jewish State where there was no right to have one under the Mandate.

        After getting their state, completely gratis, and on the day it was proclaimed effective, Jewish forces were already outside its borders, busy dispossessing even more non-Jews

        “You got a problem with that?”

        Sure do pal. It’s another lying Ziodump. Like all your pathetic whining. You’re trying to justify the unjustifiable and in the process showing yourself to be as far away from the basic common sense tenets of Judaism as it’s possible to get

        The indigenous argument is irrelevant to the legal status of Israel’s proclaimed territories and Israel’s illegal activities in territories the Israeli Government itself said on May 22nd 1948 were “outside the State of Israel” … “in Palestine”

      • Jackdaw
        September 12, 2016, 12:17 am

        @talknic

        “The offer was to settle in Palestine as citizens of Palestine ”

        Yes. And until there would be a majority of Jews in Palestine, at which time, those Jews would exercise they’re (exclusive) political rights and declare a State. Dr. Weizmann was quite clear about that. See bottom of last complete paragraph. The offer was to settle in Palestine as citizens of Palestine. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/09/declaring-themselves-apartheid/#comment-854970

      • eljay
        September 12, 2016, 12:28 am

        || |Jackdaw: … Actually, the Jews are the indigenous people of the area. … ||

        Actually, they’re not. Some of the people in the world who have chosen to be Jewish are indigenous to Palestine. The rest are indigenous to their homelands all over the world.

        || … All the Jews did, besides long for Zion … ||

        …was to establish an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and religion-supremacist state in as much as possible of Palestine and spend decades committing (war) crimes against the indigenous population of Palestine.

      • lyn117
        September 12, 2016, 3:21 pm

        @jackdaw “Actually, the Jews are the indigenous people of the area.”

        In fact the vast majority of Jewish people who lived in Palestine before the Arabs came “from Arabia” had adopted Christianity in the preceding centuries. In fact, most modern Jews are primarily descended from people who converted to Judaism outside Palestine. Except a tiny minority, Jews aren’t indigenous to the area of what’s now Israel.

      • MHughes976
        September 12, 2016, 3:37 pm

        This ‘indigenous’ term keeps on arising. First, is it a crucial component of John’s argument – I think not. The required point is made by saying that Israel has on the whole treated the non-Jewish residents of the area abominably.
        Second, what does it mean? I would say that anyone is indigenous where born – inde genita est. I would say that a group is indigenous many of its members were born there and there’s no sense of anything exceptional about the individuals who were. I don’t see any need to say ‘one area, one indigenous group’ or the other way round. An area can have many indigenous groups and one group can be indigenous to many areas.
        Third, what does it matter? The political rights of an individual in an area – and the question of whether (s)he is being treated abominably – do not depend on belonging to a group that is indigenous, do they?
        Fourth, Jewish theology does not say that ‘the inheritance in the land of Canaan’ was due to the Israelites’ being indigenous there. Quite the contrary: they were conquering immigrants by special and unique divine mandate, planned to bring all nations to God in the end, a process which Jewish and Christian thinkers came to understand differently.

      • Mooser
        September 12, 2016, 4:28 pm

        “Fourth, Jewish theology does not say that ‘the inheritance in the land of Canaan’ was due to the Israelites’ being indigenous there. Quite the contrary: they were conquering immigrants by special and unique divine mandate,”

        And to top it off, the Jews (as they would become) adopted and adapted Canaanite religious concepts and ritual into their own religion!
        That really shocked me, when I found that out. I thought I was heir to an original designer religion, not a Canaanite knock-off. And all the time kvetching about “purity”.

      • zaid
        September 13, 2016, 12:00 pm

        “Try to disprove that fact.

        It was already disproven by Historian , Archaeologists and Geneticists.

      • MHughes976
        September 13, 2016, 3:24 pm

        What historians and archaeologists do you have in mind, zaid ?

      • Mooser
        September 13, 2016, 5:54 pm

        “What historians and archaeologists do you have in mind, zaid ?”

        None that can stand up to the good book.

      • gamal
        September 13, 2016, 7:58 pm

        “What historians and archaeologists do you have in mind, zaid?”

        historians

        Abdul Rahman Abbad

        Kamil Asali

        Abdul Aziz Duri

        Ibn Athir

        Al-Masudi

        Rashid ad-Din at-Tabbib (Persian Jew)

        Dr Zaidan Kafafi

        Dr Nasser Edin Al Asad (no relation)

        archeologists Zaid may mean Israel Finkelstein, Herzog et al

        etc

      • MHughes976
        September 14, 2016, 10:06 am

        For another point of view see Dore Gold ‘Archaeology is the best defence of Jewish Ties to Jerusalem’, JPost Sepember 11, 2016. Much is being made of reassembled floor tiles in Herodian style found – ie the fragments were found – amid Temple Mount debris.

      • RoHa
        September 18, 2016, 3:26 am

        “Actually, the Jews are the indigenous people of the area. Try to disprove that fact.”

        Disproof is a tall order, but I do have an old book, supposedly written by and highly esteemed by Jews, which seems to suggest that Jews are the descendants of guy called Abraham, who moved in from what is now called Iraq and bought a chunk of land from the indigenous locals. Or have I misunderstood the story?

    • Mooser
      September 10, 2016, 5:49 pm

      “if they think that throwing Israel under the bus is going to save them from…

      Israeli tourists?

      • Mooser
        September 11, 2016, 2:50 pm

        “Actually, the Jews are the indigenous people of the area.”

        Sure! You’ve heard of “Piltdown Man”, the indigenous man of England, so I guess I must be descended from Jewdown Man!
        “You got a problem with that?”

      • Jackdaw
        September 11, 2016, 11:59 pm

        What indigenous people, still alive, can you prove predate the Jews in the area?

        No puerile snark, Mooser. Try facts, for a change.

      • MHughes976
        September 17, 2016, 5:30 pm

        As to indigenous people pre-dating the Jews, I would ask what is meant by ‘indigenous’ in this question. I mentioned my own usage above, whereby the Palestinians are indigenous enough. I don’t pretend to be the arbiter of language – no one has to use words as I do, though I’d suggest that I’m fairly close to most people’s way of talking. I’ll address the question of ‘indigenous for how long’ but would like to be informed whether my definition is accepted or else what other is on offer – also to what extent pre-dating matters for the discussion.
        As to Jewish antiquities, I. Finkelstein’s theory as I understand it is that the Judahites were actually an indigenous people but scorned to be – this was partly because of the militaristic values of 630 BCE and partly because of the great ambitions of King Josiah, ably abetted, to put it mildly, by his brilliant scribes. It was considered more honourable and more a mark of divine favour to be the heirs of conquerors.

      • RoHa
        September 18, 2016, 3:20 am

        “I don’t pretend to be the arbiter of language ”

        That’s my job, of course.

    • talknic
      September 10, 2016, 7:41 pm

      @ Jackdaw September 10, 2016, 2:52 pm

      “The Spaniards are quite delusional if they think that throwing Israel under the bus is going to save them from Islamist terrorism, regional sectarianism, a weakening E.U. or the effects of global warming”

      If YOU say so Jackdaw. No one else has

      Most of the world’s nations adhere to their legal obligations, they’re not under any bus

      • Jackdaw
        September 11, 2016, 12:32 am

        @talk

        Remind us what country you live in (where the rule of law is sacrosanct).

        Please. Remind us.

    • Talkback
      September 11, 2016, 6:28 am

      Jackdaw: “The Spaniards are quite delusional if they think that throwing Israel under the bus is going to save them from …”

      Aaah, the old “Why our settler colonialism helps X” argument.

      • Jackdaw
        September 12, 2016, 12:43 am

        @talknic

        What country was that again?
        Even Moose Stalker eventually manned up and told us where he lives.

    • Marnie
      September 12, 2016, 12:08 am

      Zionist threats, again? Coming from Jackdaw instead of that MaxNarr guy/gal. Every time there is a major victory in the BDS campaign against the zionist cancer, one of you throws in a veiled threat. Losers!

  13. MHughes976
    September 10, 2016, 3:05 pm

    This article prompted me to look at the judgement in the case of BDS and Leicester City Council. The right under UK law of local authorities to give support in principle to BDS was firmly upheld. It was interesting that when the offence given to Jewish groups was considered, the fact that Jewish opinion is not unanimous was noted. Maybe that point will have some importance and maybe Mondoweiss will be prominently mentioned if similar litigation arises in the United States. However, part of the easy success in the UK arose from the fact that it was a non- binding resolution and that no action had been taken as yet in consequence. If a business had been able to complain that it had lost money things might have been different.

  14. Elizabeth Block
    September 10, 2016, 6:33 pm

    Felicitaciones a Espana y a los espanoles. (I don’t know how to do a tilde here!)

    I was in Spain a couple of years ago, visited Sevilla, Cordoba, and other cities. There are Jewish museums and commemorations in many of them. In one, in Cordoba, there’s a list of notable Spaniards who had, or were accused of having, Jewish blood. See my website, http://www.elizabethblockpottery.com/blog. You might like the photo of a banner in someone’s window that says IMAGINA A TODO EL MUNDO VIVIENDO LA VIDA EN PAZ. Someone’s a Beatle fan. And a peace fan.

    And lest people think this is a resurgence of the anti-Semitism of five hundred years ago that got all the Jews expelled from Spain, remember that it wasn’t just the Jews. It was the Muslims as well.

  15. Qualtrough
    September 10, 2016, 10:33 pm

    Talkback September 10, 2016, 6:22 am”

    “Israel sould immediately support citizens of states who claim Spain to be their or their ancestor’s homeland and a right for their return. Let’s start with Mexico.”

    Spain already has a right of return for the descendants of the Jews who were expelled, but no such right of return for the descendants of the Muslims who lived there for centuries. But that’s not enough for you, you have to bitch because some Spaniards aren’t happy with the way JSIL treats Palestinians.

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Spain-passes-law-of-return-for-Sephardic-Jews-405742

  16. Ossinev
    September 11, 2016, 12:06 pm

    @Jackdaw.
    Wow you really know your stuff.
    “Actually, the Jews are the indigenous people of the area. Try to disprove that fact. The Arabs came from Arabia and conquered the land much like the Conquistadores came from Spain and savagely colonized the New World”

    So let`s get this straight all the Jews currently in Palestine,Brooklyn and Florida are descendants of Jews who lived in what is now Palestine before those nasty Romans etc. Their great great great great great great great great great great great great great great etc grandmothers were the indigenous inhabitants who simply sprung out of the soil and did not move from anywhere else in the Middle East and displace the “indigenous” inhabitants who were there before them because there weren`t any. The land was completely empty. Oh and none of them were converts to Judaism at any time during the past.

    Priceless garbage.

    BTW Jews are members of a religious cult – just as are Catholics,Mormons,Baptists,Muslims and Seventh Day Adventists. They are not a “people”

    • Marnie
      September 12, 2016, 12:10 am

      “BTW Jews are members of a religious cult – just as are Catholics,Mormons,Baptists,Muslims and Seventh Day Adventists. They are not a “people”.

      Thanks for the breath of fresh air.

      • Mooser
        September 20, 2016, 12:30 pm

        I’d like to know one thing.
        Does Jewish indigenousness in Palestine get priority because of the rule of law, or in spite of the rule of law?

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