The Jewish confession on a future Yom Kippur

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This is part of Marc H. Ellis’s “Exile and the Prophetic” feature for Mondoweiss. To read the entire series visit the archive page.

Another Yom Kippur has arrived. That special time of reflection and confession is upon us. Yet the reflection and confessional pickings are slim. In the mainstream Jewish communities of Israel and America there has been little reflection. The confession we Jews should have made, the confession we Jews have to make, won’t be made today.

So we begin yet another New Year, this being the 50th anniversary of the occupation of the Palestinian territories that weren’t occupied in 1948,with no sign, no sign at all, that Jews in any great number in Israel or America are ready to step back and assess the fundamental questions facing us a people. Has our commemoration of the Holocaust and celebration of Israel run its course? Have the twin events  that define contemporary Jewish life brought us closer to ourselves. our ethical heritage, to others, to the world community?

Increasingly, and now definitively, our personal and collective answer has to be no. Just the opposite. As Jews, we have descended precipitously and, for all odds, permanently. Where others once looked to us for prophetic light, they now turn away. When they look our way a second time, hoping against hope that their first impression was wrong, it gets worse. Instead of prophetic light, others see a people dwelling in a self-imposed darkness, without critical thought, militarized and constantly teaching others lessons we, ourselves, refuse to learn. Are they wrong?

On Yom Kippur, the day of confession and change, for what is confession without change, we try to side-step the issue, deflect it and turn our anger outward. Yet everyone around the world knows the real score. Increasing number of Jews do as well. But what to do with this knowledge from without and within?

In the synagogues across Israel and America the knowledge of our culpability is buried. That we have become ethnic cleansers is impossible for most Jews to relate to. That we have permanently ghettoized the Palestinian people is a non-starter, a sign of betrayal and self-hate.  Jews as ethnic cleansers and ghettoizers?  Impossible.

This curious transposition, wherein Jews have become almost everything  we loathed about our oppressors, is certainly possible, has already occurred and now defines us as a people. This means that our Yom Kippur confession is right here, easy to verify, if we would only listen to Jews of Conscience and the interfaith and international chorus.

We won’t listen on Yom Kippur, simply because we haven’t listened on any other day of the Jewish year. Nonetheless, the struggle continues. On a future Yom Kippur the Jewish confession – “What we as Jews have done to you, the Palestinian people, is wrong. What we as Jews have done to you, the Palestinian people, is wrong” – will be spoken.  Will it be too late to make a difference?

About Marc H. Ellis

Marc H. Ellis is retired Director and Professor of Jewish Studies at Baylor University and author of The Heartbeat of the Prophetic which can be found at Amazon and www.newdiasporabooks.com

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  1. talknic
    October 12, 2016, 11:25 pm

    Do Israeli Jews even know they shoot 13 year old boys in the legs for allegedly doing what David did?

  2. echinococcus
    October 13, 2016, 3:10 pm

    Of course they know. Heck, they do it and yell in the streets for more of it. None of the invaders since 1897 are legitimate inhabitants.

    • CigarGod
      October 16, 2016, 9:21 pm

      Yep.
      They killed or drove out any original Jew who spoke up in opposition to Zionist tactics.
      Plenty of history on it if you dig deep enough.

      • echinococcus
        October 16, 2016, 11:20 pm

        Correct; thanks for the reminder. Including a great-uncle of mine & family thereof in the early times. A good thing to do would be to pull together this documentation (and the more significant one of the persecution of the Bundists.) Just saying, as I am not likely to ever move my backside and do something worthwile.

      • Mikhael
        October 20, 2016, 12:29 am

        CigarGod October 16, 2016, 9:21 pm

        Yep.
        They killed or drove out any original Jew who spoke up in opposition to Zionist tactics.
        Plenty of history on it if you dig deep enough.

        History belies your assertion. Leaving aside the fact that the Zionists who moved to Ereṣ Yisra’el in the 19th and 20th centuries were just much “original Jews” as the many Jewish families that had been living in the country continuously for centuries and whose descendants still live there today, most of the veteran Jewish community that traced their ancestry to the “Old Yishuv” (i.e., the veteran Jewish community that had lived in Ereṣ Yisra’el before the emergence of modern political Zionism), with the exception of some haredi fanatics (most of them Ashkenazim whose families arrived in the early 19th century) quickly embraced modern political Zionism. Veteran Sefaradim whose families had been living in Safed joined Zionists who had come from Romania to to build Rosh Pina at the start of what’s come to be known as the “First Aliyah,” for instance.
        All my relatives on my father’s side (my paternal grandmother traced her ancestry 17 generations in the country, dating to the mid-1500s, to Sephardic Jews who settled in Galilee after 1492, and my paternal grandfather was the son of Jews who arrived in Jerusalem from Halab (Alleppo) and Damascus in the 1870s), took part in the struggle for Jewish independence and were in the ranks of Haganah and Eṣel before the British left and all of them served proudly in the IDF after.

      • Mooser
        October 20, 2016, 5:01 pm

        “All my relatives on my father’s side…”

        Well, I guess you dissipated that family line.

      • Mikhael
        October 21, 2016, 7:23 am

        Mooser October 20, 2016, 5:01 pm
        “All my relatives on my father’s side…”

        Well, I guess you dissipated that family line.

        Why would you come to such a bizarre conclusion?

      • talknic
        October 21, 2016, 9:49 am

        Never ending BS is so amusing

        @ Mikhael October 20, 2016, 12:29 am

        CigarGod October 16, 2016, 9:21 pm

        Yep.
        They killed or drove out any original Jew who spoke up in opposition to Zionist tactics.
        Plenty of history on it if you dig deep enough.

        “History belies your assertion”

        You didn’t include any verifiable history.

        “Leaving aside the fact that the Zionists who moved to Ereṣ Yisra’el in the 19th and 20th centuries were just much “original Jews” as the many Jewish families that had been living in the country continuously for centuries”

        Best left aside as it’s a nonsense statement

      • echinococcus
        October 21, 2016, 11:08 am

        The Michael propaganda twister seems to have a single mechanism. That of the stuck record.

        Leaving aside the fact that the Zionists who moved to Ereṣ Yisra’el in the 19th and 20th centuries were just much “original Jews” as the many Jewish families that had been living in the country continuously for centuries and whose descendants

        blablabla…

        So what, Buster? Never mind the Eretzes and underpointed S’es and hamzas and assorted bullshit; it’s called Palestine in English. Yes, there were “many families” in Ottoman times, some Arab, some Sefardí, plus a regular trickle of religion-soaked Ostyidden, and some pilgrims that stayed for the climate. They were normal people, i.e. behaving as citizens of the same place who respected the laws and customs of the place, not armed pirates taking over the sovereignty.

        Together with the 1882 Rothschild Zionists and other undesirable vultures arriving in the last years, to whom one might extend the benefit of the doubt –because they came before Herzl and his merry band of thugs announced their hostile intent, they all made up a grand total of…

        5% OF THE POPULATION. I’ll give you up to 7% to make up for the vulture invasion in the last couple of years.

        All my relatives on my father’s side…

        Yarright, all we needed for a reasoned discussion was to know who had the great luck of fathering you! So freakin’ what?
        If case histories are any argument but they ain’t, I have direct family from right there, too. The Zionist bandits soured their life, murdered their neighbors, threatened then regularly beat the family elders, lynched one and ran them out of the country. A bunch of Bessarabian, Polish, Russian, German, Martian thugs ran them out of their own country of Palestine.

        Again, all Palestinian Jews together, plus the last-minute arrivals, did not make up more than 5-7% at the time of the Pirates’ Congress. A lot of them were local, Palestinians who deeply resented the Zionist murderers and had no use for any “Jewish” state.
        Try to argue that away with your nonsense.

      • RoHa
        October 21, 2016, 7:45 pm

        “If case histories are any argument but they ain’t, ”

        But they certainly count as evidence to support arguments.

      • echinococcus
        October 22, 2016, 2:55 pm

        RoHa,
        Reminders to watch my sloppy diction are always welcome. They teach me, or at least make me conscious of it. Not very hopeful as to the potential to correct it, though.

      • RoHa
        October 23, 2016, 1:18 am

        Human nature is prone to flaws and weaknesses, and sloppy diction is not the least of these. We all succumb at some time or another, in spite of our best efforts.

        But I was making a logical point, not a linguistic one.

      • echinococcus
        October 23, 2016, 10:56 am

        You should have stuck with the point on diction, RoHa: yes, let’s not confuse argument with its supporting evidence in English.

        But then, what’s receivable evidence in this case? The remark from the high-flying philosopher to the pedestrian statistician must needs strike a jarring note here. It will depend on the total population, the relative strength of the resident-Jewish population, the facts that allow lower and upper estimates of the relative strengths of Zionism sympathizers, opponents or neutrals within said fraction of the population, etc. etc. So the receivability of any anecdotal evidence will depend on some abstruse calculations with extremely iffy input.
        Won’t continue the already off-topic excursion; you see the problem.

      • RoHa
        October 24, 2016, 12:16 am

        Depends on the argument.

        Michael offers his family as evidence. You counter with yours.

        And the statistician is working with an aggregation of anecdotes.

  3. xanadou
    October 13, 2016, 6:41 pm

    “So we begin yet another New Year, this being the 50th anniversary of the occupation of the Palestinian territories that weren’t occupied in 1948”

    68th anniversary…

    P.s. And am thrilled to see that the Comments are back. Missed you, MW.

    • talknic
      October 13, 2016, 9:57 pm

      Official Israeli Government admissions to Occupying non-Israeli territories prior to 1967

      http://wp.me/pDB7k-Xk

      ———–

      BTW Comments are still misbehaving … Firefox tells me the Article Pages have to wait for ever for

      Google Analytics before they’re fully loaded “Transfering data from w w w. google-analytics.com…”
      and/or
      “Transferring data from Facebook.com…”
      “etc …”

  4. Ossinev
    October 14, 2016, 7:17 am

    The Yahoo is off on one of his loony rants again following the UNESCO vote ref the Temple Mount:
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.747314

    On the plus side he said:
    “To say that Israel has no connection to the Temple Mount and the Western Wall is like saying that China has no connection to the Great Wall of China and that Egypt has no connection to the Pyramids.”

    So logically he would then have to admit that all those Palestinian refugees and their descendants who were cleansed by the 20th century JSILI “Romans” during the Nakba have a right of return.

    Wait a minute though self brainwashed fanatics don`t do logic.

    • oldgeezer
      October 14, 2016, 12:02 pm

      @Ossinev

      This isn’t a looney rant as much as a smokescreen and diversion.

      The media is concentrating on the rant and ignoring the list of crimes against humanity being perpetrated by Israel.

      Quite effective even if the rant is totally delusional and a complete fabricatio/misrepresentation of what the report contains.

    • inbound39
      October 15, 2016, 6:35 pm

      Netanyahu conveniently ignores the fact Ashkenazi Jews in Israel have no connection ,historical or otherwise to the Middle East. Their connection is solely to Europe.

      • inbound39
        October 15, 2016, 6:36 pm

        Yeeha…comments work! Missed coming here.

      • Mooser
        October 17, 2016, 12:41 pm

        “Yeeha…comments work! Missed coming here.”

        It was pretty dull for a while. There was nothing to do but read the articles! But they turned out to be pretty good.
        I think they should turn comments off now and again, for unspecified intervals just to keep us on our toes.

      • Jerry J
        October 20, 2016, 2:18 am

        Inbound39, that is BS and hateful. Who are you to define a Jew?

        See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1380291/

        http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7303/abs/nature09103.html

        among many others

      • talknic
        October 21, 2016, 9:54 am

        @ Jerry J October 20, 2016, 2:18 am

        “Inbound39, that is BS and hateful. Who are you to define a Jew?”

        He didn’t define a Jew. He said ” Ashkenazi Jews in Israel have no connection ,historical or otherwise to the Middle East. Their connection is solely to Europe.”

        Oh. I get your point. Ashkenazim are not Jews.

      • RoHa
        October 21, 2016, 10:56 am

        BS it may be, but why do you say it is hateful?

        And who is the right person to define a Jew?

  5. gamal
    October 14, 2016, 11:03 am

    you remember this one mark

    https://youtu.be/UfPXdhnbCbU

  6. Mooser
    October 15, 2016, 1:11 pm

    Gee, I was counting on Zionism and Israel to establish the elite position of the Jews for all time.
    I was positive I’d be able to dine out on it all through my declining tears.

    • gamal
      October 16, 2016, 6:28 pm

      “I was counting on Zionism and Israel to establish the elite position of the Jews for all time.”

      boy man and he says, even through a Kurd, even in a derided book he/she/us says, ignore the parentheses of course you will…he says just what you say,

      https://youtu.be/2N3_27piDbo

  7. RoHa
    October 15, 2016, 10:43 pm

    Comments working at last?

    Good. For too long have the denizens of MW been denied the intellectual nourishment of my profound wisdom and the moral uplift of my exemplary prose style.

    Now I can catch up on the comments I wanted to make earlier.

    • Mooser
      October 16, 2016, 12:53 pm

      “Comments working at last?”

      Not for me, not yet, anyway.
      I must admit, it’s sort of liberating.
      Knowing the comments will never be seen, I can say exactly what I feel.

  8. RoHa
    October 15, 2016, 11:51 pm

    “Where others once looked to us for prophetic light,”

    When was that?

    • Mooser
      October 16, 2016, 12:57 pm

      “When was that?”

      Every Passover, of course. We leave a full pipe and a fresh Bic on the Seder table for Elijah.
      And wonder of wonders, miracle of miracles, the next morning, the bowl is cashed!

  9. mcohen.
    October 16, 2016, 7:54 am

    tears or years

  10. Ossinev
    October 16, 2016, 1:45 pm

    @oldGeezer
    “This isn’t a looney rant as much as a smokescreen and diversion”
    Point taken but I still think that there is an increasing element of lunacy in the Right Hon Yahoo`s words and deeds. He is getting older and I think the American subservience to his every whim has gone to his head – I believe he truly thinks that currently he is the most important” statesman ” in the world.

    BTW Shouldn`t he have said “to say that Israel has no connection to the Temple Mount and Western Wall and the Separation Wall” . The latter in particular is truly a monument to the great achievements of Judaism and it`s inherent humanity and love of mankind.

    • oldgeezer
      October 16, 2016, 4:56 pm

      @Ossinev

      I have to say point taken back at ya.

      The old saying that the lunatics are in charge of the asylum has never been more true than in the case of Israel. The leaders and supporters are dangerously off the rails.

  11. jon s
    October 22, 2016, 12:07 pm

    It’s nice to see that the comments are back, so I’ll (belatedly) wish everyone a good year. May it be a year of peace.
    And a very happy holiday to all those celebrating this week!

    • echinococcus
      October 22, 2016, 2:50 pm

      Is it the Chinese New Year already? Strange, where I live the Chinese are like 40% of the population, so I would have known.

      • jon s
        October 23, 2016, 4:34 am

        echinococcus,
        It was the Jewish New Year. And now it’s the holiday of Sukkot, leading to the celebration of Simhat Torah , which begins this evening.

      • echinococcus
        October 23, 2016, 5:14 am

        Why, John S, I should have figured it out that anything unspecified must be relative to the 2% invisible commanding majority.

      • jon s
        October 23, 2016, 10:34 am

        ehinococcus,
        Who are the” 2% invisible commanding majority” that you refer to?

      • echinococcus
        October 24, 2016, 8:33 am

        This is soooo elementary that, even with John S, it would be offensive to assume that he means his inane question, and his insistence, in good faith.

        Who is the 2% invisible commanding majority indeed. When giving out greetings for a religious or cultural ritual, the normally organized mind does not specify which, as long as it conforms to the nominal majority of the land or the area. Like, for the US, January 1st for new year.
        Not strictly needed if it concerns a major element either, like a Chinese new year in San Francisco, or any of the three Semitic religions if in Invaded Palestine.

        But then, for a Zionist, say a John S, there is no need to specify: the Goys were created to serve him (as per the official Zionist entity luminaries of his religion) and should, in the US at least, know everything about the feasts and rites of their masters –no matter if these are making up all of an invisible 2% in the US.

      • jon s
        October 25, 2016, 7:09 am

        echinococcus,
        If you choose to respond, the decent , courteous response would be “a good year to you, too. ”

        I always convey holiday greetings to my Muslim and Christian acquaintences on their holidays and receive greetings on ours. That’s the way normal, decent, people interact.
        But who am I to teach you decency?

      • echinococcus
        October 25, 2016, 8:47 am

        John S continues to pretend he doesn’t read.

        If a decent , courteous response is desired you provide a decent , courteous stimulus.

        It’s neither decent nor courteous to assume that the population of the US or UK etc., that reads a US-published web site, is under the obligation to know by default the religious celebrations of the religious minority among a 2% minority that may be reasonably expected to be aware of what the hell you’re talking about. The remaining 98% of the population are not reasonably supposed to know about it any more than they would know about the much wider celebration of Christmas on January 6 (which I never, ever heard mentioned in the US without the specification of the particular community it applies to.)

        Not even bothering to specify whom exactly you are addressing means that you consider the general population as your servants; no nice response to that is to be taken for granted in the civilized world.
        All you had to do for your pretend-religious busying around was to wish a good *Jewish* new year to get a “decent” response from the so inclined.

        At any rate, to you, who insult not only Americans but also your occupied “Muslim and Christian acquaintences” (of whom you don’t even know if they give two bits for religion) and every decent Jew, too, I suppose the only decent greeting back was formulated by Mooser:

        May the coming year take from you what you have stolen.

      • Mooser
        October 25, 2016, 12:23 pm

        “But who am I to teach you decency?” “Jon s”

        Give him a couple of “penalty kicks” in the head, Beersheba style, and hit him with a chair, “Jon s”.
        Cause if there’s one thing you know about in Beersheba, it’s “decency”

        OH, BTW, did you ever apologize for trying to pass that gang-murder off as a “terrorist attack on Beersheba”? I would think that “decency” requires it.

    • Mooser
      October 22, 2016, 3:33 pm

      “It’s nice to see that the comments are back, so I’ll (belatedly) wish everyone a good year. May it be a year of peace.”

      Coming from an Israeli, that’s a joke. Coming from you, it’s an insult.
      May the coming year take from you what you have stolen.
      May this be the year Judaism stands up to the depredations and perversions Zionism has wreaked upon it.

    • eljay
      October 24, 2016, 8:33 am

      || jon s: … May it be a year of peace. … ||

      Always “peace”; never justice, accountability and equality.

    • amigo
      October 25, 2016, 8:53 am

      “That’s the way normal, decent, people interact.” jon s.

      Normal decent people live on their own land .Normal decent people do not squat on someone elses land after the previous owners were kicked out of their homes .

      “But who am I to teach you decency?” .jon s .

      Yes indeed , who are you to preach decency.Instead of worrying about our new year you should address that acute case of self righteousness that allows you to presume to lecture others about decency.

      • jon s
        October 25, 2016, 9:49 am

        amigo,
        When you write “happy new year” or “merry christmas” , you expect to receive a similar message in return, not insults. That’s what I meant by normal, decent, interaction. Such interactions can occur despite political differences.

        And I never stole anything in my life. I live in my own home, in my own homeland.

      • amigo
        October 25, 2016, 10:16 am

        “When you write “happy new year” or “merry christmas” , you expect to receive a similar message in return, not insults” jon s.

        I avoid sending seasons greetings to people I have no respect for.It,s a tad hypocritical for my liking.

        ” Such interactions can occur despite political differences.” jon s.

        Would you respect the view that the Holocaust was just a matter of “Political difference”.

      • Mooser
        October 25, 2016, 12:26 pm

        “Would you respect the view that the Holocaust was just a matter of “Political difference”.

        No, the Holocaust was a matter of something which far surpasses political differences in importance. It was about national purity, and making “German State”.

        Those are very important things, right “Jon s”?

      • amigo
        October 25, 2016, 3:45 pm

        “And I never stole anything in my life. I live in my own home, in my own homeland.”jon s.

        It is a crime in any real democracy to receive “Stolen goods ” , that includes paying for such.The area you call your homeland also comes under the heading of “Stolen goods” so your batting 0 for 2 at the moment.Of course we have pointed all this out to you before but you are far too busy dishing out season,s greetings to face facts with a modicum of intellectual honesty.

      • jon s
        October 25, 2016, 11:16 pm

        amigo,
        No, the Holocaust was something else. Why bring it up at all?

        You and I have political differences. We’ve never met, I don’t know much about you , so I don’t harbor any ill-will towards you , personally.

      • amigo
        October 26, 2016, 8:54 am

        “You and I have political differences”.jon s

        No we don,t , we have moral and ethical differences.

        I do not view your support for the zionist entity and it,s crimes –one of which you are part of by living on land stolen from others as a matter of politics.You insult the victims of these crimes , which you so effortlessly refer to as “politics”.

        That is why I raised the issue of the Holocaust . Maybe you can make the connection , even if you are an ardent zionist.But never mind , you can always send holiday greetings to your Muslim friends and show them what a caring zionist you are.

        All you need to know about me is that I support the right of all people to human rights and freedom and oppose any and all who oppose that either through deeds or tacid support..

      • echinococcus
        October 26, 2016, 3:49 pm

        These Zionists sure know how to kill language.
        “Political differences” is what they call a major shooting war.

      • jon s
        October 26, 2016, 10:55 pm

        ” I support the right of all people to human rights and freedom …”

        In that case, we don’t have moral and ethical differences, since that’s what I happen to believe, too. The question is how best to achieve those rights in the real world, which is where politics come in.

      • eljay
        October 27, 2016, 7:25 am

        || amigo: … I support the right of all people to human rights and freedom … ||

        || jon s: In that case, we don’t have moral and ethical differences, since that’s what I happen to believe, too. … ||

        You also believe that people who choose to be Jewish are entitled to a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine. And you do not believe in the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality. So you may, in fact, have moral and ethical differences with amigo.

      • eljay
        October 28, 2016, 10:53 am

        || amigo: … I support the right of all people to human rights and freedom … ||

        || jon s: In that case, we don’t have moral and ethical differences … ||

        I’ll wager that you and amigo do, in fact, have moral and ethical differences. For example, I’m pretty sure amigo:
        – does support the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality (which you do not); and
        – does not support Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine (which you do).

      • eljay
        October 28, 2016, 10:57 am

        || amigo: … I support the right of all people to human rights and freedom … ||

        || jon s: In that case, we don’t have moral and ethical differences … ||

        I’m pretty sure amigo:
        – does support the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality (which you do not); and
        – does not support Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine (which you do).

        I think it’s safe to say that you and he do have moral and ethical differences.

    • yonah fredman
      October 25, 2016, 2:57 pm

      Happy 5777 to you, jon. The topic of the post is yom kippur, yet to these cavemen, something is weird with you to wish people a good year, and assume they realize the context. When trump and Clinton refuse to shake hands, it is no surprise that pro forma greetings are not offered in the comments section of mw, but when they start throwing stats of world population versus Jewish population, one wonders if such self blinding venom is a good sign for the proponents of any cause.

      • echinococcus
        October 25, 2016, 3:26 pm

        No happy nothing to you Zionists, Reb Fredman. As long as there is a Zionist entity or even a Zionist movement, anything that increments your happiness will needs mean theft, destruction and murder for others.

        This being out of the way, how much more arrogant can you guys be?

        I have some religious friends who are not pushy Zionists anxious to rub the everybody’s nose in the fact that the Zionists pretty much control the US. Guess what, they always make sure to wish “a good *Jewish* new year” to people they don’t know. Just to make sure they don’t come off as overbearing bullies.

      • Mooser
        October 25, 2016, 7:21 pm

        ” The topic of the post is yom kippur, yet to these cavemen, “

        UGH!! Us cavemen lucky to have superior, civilized Jews to tell us how to behave. Me so grateful.

      • Mooser
        October 25, 2016, 7:36 pm

        “This being out of the way, how much more arrogant can you guys be?”

        I already think of it as a superlative: “As arrogant as a Zionist in a comment section.”

        And a sanctimony which surpasses pharmaceutical-grade ipecac in efficacy.

      • yonah fredman
        October 25, 2016, 8:46 pm

        cavemen, an unfair comparison. of course. unfair to the caveman.

      • echinococcus
        October 25, 2016, 9:02 pm

        Mooser,

        Thanks. I didn’t really expect a scientific measurement, but you sure supplied it.
        From now on, you’re my go-to pharmacist.

      • echinococcus
        October 25, 2016, 9:20 pm

        unfair comparison. of course. unfair to the caveman.

        Says the neolithic tribal loyalist.

      • jon s
        October 25, 2016, 11:27 pm

        Yonah,thanks and shana tova to you, too.
        I agree with your comment . Noone had to respond to my greetings, but to choose to respond, with such venom (as you put it), is something I find hard to accept.

      • Mooser
        October 26, 2016, 12:30 pm

        . “Noone had to respond to my greetings, but to choose to respond, with such venom (as you put it), is something I find hard to accept.”

        C’mon, people! I mean, how can you be so mean to “Jon s”.
        Now, in Beersheba, where “Jon s” lives, they always make sure new visitors like Eritreans get a big kick out of the settlement. Why, I’m sure “Jon s” was the first to offer that Eritrean a chair to the head.
        And when he was safely dispatched, “Jon s” ran right to Mondo to tell us he had narrowly avoided a “terrorist attack on Beersheba”. He assured us all the children were safe!

        I find that a little hard to accept.

      • echinococcus
        October 26, 2016, 2:31 pm

        Mooser,

        Of course the children are safe!
        Why else do you think they would make teachers out of JohnSes?

  12. kalithea
    October 24, 2016, 2:42 am

    Forgive me, but I just had to link this post with this one on another site:

    http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2016/10/13/losing-my-religion/

    And I want to make special note of his reply to @ Yehuda who is what I would refer to as a hollow, gentrified Zionist oblivious to the glaring consequence of the space he takes up in Israel.

    Now, both posts, this one and Silverstein’s have a common thread that warms my heart and especially the latter’s because I see this religious existential crisis as a light at the end of a tunnel; it’s an oxymoron of hopeful despair. I see Silverstein has evolved since last I perused his site.

    Lose your humanity or we lose our religion! Deceptive Zionist ultimatum. It is already lost and many are lost with it. Zionism’s only redeeming quality is to inspire a higher purpose in those that choose to resist.

    • kalithea
      October 24, 2016, 3:25 am

      When I wrote gentrified Zionist; I really meant a Zionist who’s more refined in his hypocrisy. What can be worse?

      And as far as Silverstein is concerned; I earnestly see something positive happening, no disrespect intended.

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