American Jews will ‘divorce’ Israel if it is at peace — Foxman

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Abe Foxman said something very smart the other day. There is a “continuous crisis” between American Jews and Israeli Jews over fundamental value differences, from occupation to freedom of worship, he said. Does that mean there is a “divorce” between the communities? No, said the former head of the Anti Defamation League said.

No I don’t think there’s a divorce. As long as Israel is under threat, as long as Israel is not secure, there’s not a divorce. Halevai [would that it were so] we come to the day when there is peace– and if there is peace– that’s when you are going to deal with the issue of divorce.

The idea that Israel needs conflict in order to bind American Jews to it ties in with something the Israeli centrist politician Yair Lapid said at the same security conference at which Foxman spoke: Israel is now in a permanent war. “In this new world, in which we live, there is no longer any separation between days of peace and days of war.”

Lapid said that war began in the last decade, with the Arab spring, the economic crisis of 2006, and the social media revolution.

It turns out once again that the Middle East believes in a different way, namely that violence can be an available, reasonable solution for any problem. We have enemies with mentalities of the 11th century holding weapons of the 21st century….  In this new world, in which we live, there is no longer any separation between days of peace and days of war. Faced with this reality, Israel will always need to be powerful and it would have to have a lot of power. And this power can not only be brutal power, it has to be smart power.

This is of course a restatement of the”We live in a dangerous neighborhood” argument, so at times we have to be brutal– which Tom Friedman first explained to American Jews was the state of the Middle East back in the 1980s. And we never stop hearing what a terrible neighborhood Israel lives in.

What Foxman’s statement suggests is that there is something highly functional to this argument: it binds American Jews to Israel. And of course their support is crucial in material ways: ensuring American governmental/political support for Israel by way of the lobby, and funding countless Israeli institutions, from Mike Bloomberg’s hospital clinics to Sheldon Adelson’s Holocaust memorials to Robert Kraft’s Jerusalem football stadium to Jared Kushner’s Israeli settlements. Were it not for that American Jewish support, the GDP of Israel would surely be in the basement, or on the first floor anyway. Not at the level of European countries.

Robert Kraft and Tom Brady in Israel

Foxman’s security blackmail touches on an organizing principle of the Israel lobby: the dominance that neoconservatives have over liberals inside the Jewish community. I like to tell the story about how neoconservative Eric Breindel got me to shut up about Israel when I knew him at college 40 years ago. Stay away from this issue, you don’t know enough, he said bluntly; and I did for many years.

There was a sense on both our parts that Breindel as the son of Holocaust survivors had a right to address issues of Jewish security, and I did not.

That was a communal sense. In recent years I’ve heard neoconservatives Michael Makovsky and Bill Kristol issue that same security blackmail in speeches in New York. It is “cavalier,” Kristol said five years ago, for comfortable Americans on the Upper West Side who face no risks at all to “berate” Israel and “second-guess” the ”tough calls” that Israel has had to make.

“I’m not sure I’m capable of judging all these extremely complicated legal and political issues within the state of Israel. I believe that as Americans what we can do… is above all stand with Israel against existential threats, terror threats.”

A few weeks ago, Makovsky issued the same fiat, slamming other members of a panel who were criticizing Israel: “Look, it’s easy to sit here on West 86th street…”

The reason I seize on these two statements, out of hundreds of similar injunctions, is that they epitomize the neoconservative power because they were issued in the same progressive space: the famous B’nai Jeshurun, which is dedicated to openness and tolerance.

These two neocons gain a platform there for a simple reason: because they claim to address an issue of Jewish survival, in the shadow of the Holocaust. The community respects neoconservatives because they are quite literally in touch with the hard generals in uniform who have to do those “brutal” things in that medieval neighborhood. While pencil-necked Jewish liberals in the U.S. who would never let their children don a uniform other than a soccer kit get to work on their screenplays and kombucha cultures and lucrative internet startups– and they must have no standing on these questions. Which is why I’ve never heard an anti-Zionist speak at B’nai Jeshurun. Kristol and Makovsky were both opposed by liberal Zionist Jeremy Ben-Ami, whose father was in the Irgun. You bet he has standing!

Leonard Cohen singing to Israeli troops including Ariel Sharon in 1973

It is for the same reason that the Union for Reform Judaism and countless Jewish politicians who came to prominence by opposing the Vietnam war supported the Iraq War: because the neoconservatives in our community said that this war would help Israel. The courageous Jerrold Nadler opposed that war, and he said he was pilloried by demagogues as anti-Israel for his vote.

What Foxman’s epiphany suggests is that the level of manipulation here is more profound and sinister than I could allow myself to imagine: That Israel chooses violence as an “available, reasonable” answer because it binds American Jews to its side, forever. That’s very dark, yes; and I am not given to cynicism, but progressives need to ask themselves: Why does Israel propagate myths of the dangerous neighborhood and the permanent war?

Thanks to Scott Roth and James North.

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  1. yonah fredman
    January 27, 2017, 2:57 pm

    The middle east is a messed up neighborhood. Israel hasn’t helped, but the problem is deeper.

    (With trump as president the trajectory of American leadership in the post WW2 world has been interrupted. At least for the moment the victory of democracy has been put in abeyance. But let us hope that this is a hiccup and not the new future.)

    Just been reading some Ben Gurion bio material. Of course, the state was born because of him and the nakba occurred because of him. But if his forward looking spirit had inhabited ehud barak or ehud Olmert or ariel sharon, a two state solution could have been reached.

    The upshot is constant war. 45 years ago the threat was the conventional armies of surrounding states: egypt and syria. Today it is the hezbollah missile stockpile threatening havoc. But the headlines are of the suppression of bedouins and internal jewish versus Arab strife and checkpoints on the west bank, and gaza under siege. To my eye this aspect of the conflict is extraneous and symptomatic of myopia, the opposite of farsightedness.

    The constant war, according to some, has been enabled by blind American support, due to unthinking American Jewish support.

    In American Jewish life there have been three big bangs: the great migration of 1880 to 1920 was the local big bang and far as foreign big bangs there was the shoah and israel.

    The immigrant experience is not unique to jews, and sociologists might enlighten with statistics of identity 100 years after the original change of location. The disappearance or decimation of the Jewish subgroup in countries of origin might add some complicating factor. An identity based on religion, despite its ethnic features, will also have unique reactions at a time of secularism particularly modern urban cosmopolitan secularism.

    The joy of the settler element in israel to the trump victory, while the majority of jews disdain trump will cost israel when trump will, please God sooner rather than later, be in our rear view mirror. Some moments I wonder how america will survive this curse called trump, but most moments, I assume we, america, will. In which case those associated with trump will bear a stain and bibi and the settlers , with their short term focus, aren’t concerned with 8 or 12 or 32 years hence, they’re not thinking like that.

    • Mooser
      January 27, 2017, 3:03 pm

      “The middle east is a messed up neighborhood. Israel hasn’t helped, but the problem is deeper.”

      “Why does Israel propagate myths of the dangerous neighborhood and the permanent war?”, asks the article, and “Yonah” promptly spends about 8 paragraphs validating the article, beginning with his very first sentence!!

      Good job, “Yonah”!! Good job! Paragraph 7 especially!

      “An identity based on religion, despite its ethnic features, will also have unique reactions at a time of secularism particularly modern urban cosmopolitan secularism.” Yessir, if that don’t explain, nothing will!

    • Maghlawatan
      January 27, 2017, 3:11 pm

      Likud and the settlers think smoch alai. Everything will be fine. Trust me. Past is prologue.
      So there is a lot of complacency. And terrible tail risk

    • yonah fredman
      January 27, 2017, 3:23 pm

      The weakness of the Arab world, dominated by Turkey, made Palestine a realistic goal to begin with. Carved up by Britain and France, this weakness did not cease with the end of colonialism. Maybe if there had been no oil the world would have given it space to blossom and mature. That does not seem to be the case.

      (Again trump and the danger to america prey on my mind. Who am I to talk about the weakness of regimes thousands of miles away, while in DC trump rules?)

      • Mooser
        January 27, 2017, 4:22 pm

        “The weakness of the Arab world, dominated by Turkey, made Palestine a realistic goal to begin with”

        “Yonah” are they ‘weak’ compared to the Western Imperialists, or is the “Arab world” weak compared to the Jews?

        “this weakness did not cease with the end of colonialism.”

        Yeah, all that colonialism ended before the Zionists showed up. Zionists will have no truck with colonialism.

      • Citizen
        January 27, 2017, 4:44 pm

        Dick & Jane will just pay through then nose, totally ignorant

      • Mooser
        January 27, 2017, 6:15 pm

        “That Israel chooses violence as an “available, reasonable” answer because it binds American Jews to its side, forever.”

        Considering the endless conflicts Zionism has delivered to American Jews, Foxman might as well try to turn the conflict into a positive (and by insulting American Jews, too, as war and conflict lovers!) since he has nothing else to offer.

        Okay, let me try and picture this: Israel, at peace, with borders that work and nationalities integrated, and productive relations with its neighbors, a partner but not dependent with the US, a source of pride to all Jews.
        And this Israel, American Jews will reject and ignore? Ho-Kay!

      • broadside
        January 28, 2017, 2:23 pm

        “Mooser”: Considering the endless conflicts Zionism has delivered to American Jews…

        Just Jews, “Mooser”? Or is your pain worse?

      • Mooser
        January 28, 2017, 10:55 pm

        “Just Jews, “Mooser”? Or is your pain worse?”

        It’s quite possible, it may be. I mean, jeez, look at “Yonah”.

      • Maghlawatan
        January 29, 2017, 3:47 pm

        The Jewish state would have made more sense in Europe. The Temple was destroyed twice cos Palestine is on an invasion route, duh. It was destroyed by Iraqis and Romans , from different directions. So Jerusalem will be lost again. Switzerland has been independent for centuries because it is NOT on an invasion route

      • RoHa
        January 29, 2017, 6:24 pm

        Hannibal used Switzerland as an invasion route. (And it seems to have been tough going. )

        But the main reasons are that Switzerland holds everyone’s getaway money, and the Swiss have got knives.

    • BBSNews
      January 27, 2017, 11:02 pm

      I’ve lurked here for years and very rarely comment, but this egregious lack of historical perspective always nags at me. In the real world, where people actually do the leg work to read and comprehend historical documents, people who have done that work have a completely different perspective than Hasbara such as yours, although this time it has been pretty mild.

      The fact is, the Palestinians were promised self-determination years before Balfour in 1917 in the Mcmahon-Hussein letters (1915-January 1916). They were required to help win the Ottoman War and they did their part. When Jan Smuts, the father of the League of Nations was formulating that body he knew that colonialism was a chief cause of war.

      In Article 22, paragraphs 1 and 4 of the League of Nations Covenant, that state of Palestine was created as a Class-A mandate state, destined to rule itself. We know from the time that Palestine was vastly majority indigenous Palestinian, the British Census of Palestine in 1922 explains this fact. We know from Balfour’s policy statement that in the “country” of Palestine, even though these folks were contemplating splitting up the country of Palestine and giving away half to a bunch of foreigners, the rights of the indigenous Palestinians were always to be respected. In practice, this obviously never happened.

      Fast forward to UNGAR 181, it has always been about two states, even though one side was getting screwed, and in fact it was Palestine that was already a state, officially created by the rule of law when the indigenous population of Palestine was about eight times as many Yishuv Jews, about twenty-four years before Israel became a state by virtue of recognition of this GA resolution. I have always been amazed again at the fact that so many purveyors of Hasbara miss the fact that UNGAR 181 could not logically be known as the “partition” resolution without in fact acknowledging that it was the existing state of Palestine to be partitioned.

      When people like you act as if the Arab world was just being mean and unreasonable by fighting for Palestine, it turns out that they were fighting for the rule of law and prior agreements by the very same people that Mooser’s comments on below when answering your false claim that colonialism has ended.

      That is patently wrong, with more than 640,000 illegal squatters in another country, Israel is the chief colonizer in the Arab world. The Palestinians were, of course, fighting against some outside powers deciding the fate of their own people in their own sovereign land.

      I’d like to see how Americans, say the eastern half of the country, would react if the General Assembly passed a resolution to divide the United States into two pieces and give away the bigger and more arable ‘half’ to say, Syrian refugees, or Kurds, or whoever no matter how deserving they are. I’m sure they would be giving out candy and “voluntarily” leaving…

      By now, Israel would have peace had they taken the generous offer, taken the olive branch extended, and ended the illegal occupation and subjugation of the indigenous people of Palestine within UNGAR 181 borders that Israel agreed to including Jerusalem (UN S/766). The illegal squatters, and the illegal occupation of the Golan Heights, and the impending Jerusalem debacle (although even the orange buffoon of doom (OBOD) is apparently backing off that disastrous idea) is part of what makes Israel in such dire existential straits. (The One State(tm) is now the only future for Israel, and those 6.3 million indigenous Palestinians are not going anywhere, they will rightly be clamoring for equal rights, and equal votes, buh bye Jewish national home.

      I do not yet understand why so many people have trouble understanding Israel’s declaration of independence. Clearly, Israel revoked it’s own declaration when the state itself wrote that UNGAR 181 was “irrevocable”. Given all that has happened, it is Israel that revoked itself.

      For the last century, Hasbara [propaganda] has done a good job at obscuring these facts. I would dearly love to discuss these issues in far more depth, that is why a few days ago I opened the http://hasbara.club the Hasbara News Club – a place where Hasbara trolls will not be tolerated, but anyone who sticks to verifiable facts and can comprehend basic historical documents will be greatly welcomed.

      The Hasbara trolls will be banned from their very first post. It is a place for adults to challenge and discuss the existing historical documents and the rule of law. No ads, no popups, just frank discussion of facts. I am heartsick that the alt-right Hasbarians have managed to get this far. There is nothing more antisemitic than claiming that it is a Jewish imperative to commit crimes against humanity including ethnic cleansing and Apartheid ostensibly in the name of the world’s Jews.

      The antisemitic alt-right got their noses under the tent by claiming to be “pro-Israel”. Now all they need to do is start embracing the rule of law and they will be claiming that all Jews should be denouncing Israeli crimes or be held as complicit, marginalized and hated, as if all Jews worldwide are responsible, in the very same way they are doing to Islam right now.

      Michael Hess
      Editor, BBSNews 1990-2017
      Reformed Zionist

      • broadside
        January 28, 2017, 1:58 pm

        Super post, Michael, especially your point about, before partitioning something, there must be something to partition. All the obvious points are purposefully ignored re: Israel and Palestine, and that might be the most obvious of all. On the Times website a woman asked for some general information on the issue, I told her to watch Raiders of the Lost Ark. Pay close attention to the scene where Indy’s plane flies over the map. See that clearly spelled out land mass down there? It’s called PALESTINE. If Spielberg says so, it must be true.

        (And my God — what’s happened to the BBC??; why you left?)

      • Mooser
        January 28, 2017, 2:27 pm

        “The antisemitic alt-right got their noses under the tent by claiming to be “pro-Israel”.

        “Claiming to be “pro-Israel”? I’ve never seen any sign their support isn’t genuine.

      • bintbiba
        January 28, 2017, 3:17 pm

        Thank you for posting , Michael Hess !

        I have added your site to my favourites !

      • Boomer
        January 29, 2017, 3:14 pm

        Thanks for posting, Mr. Hess. Excellent, informative, insightful, thoughtful. Thanks for the link to your site, as well. Your post there about Reservations in the U.S. is interesting and informative in its own right (many of us who aren’t near Indian Country don’t hear much about such topics), with interesting analogies to Palestine.

  2. marc b.
    January 27, 2017, 3:49 pm

    ben gurion is just as responsible for the mess as anyone. he was the leading proponent of the bible as history homogenizing strategy, which has created the schizophrenia that is the thread that connects the collective israeli mental state. (ooo, that’s a long sentence.) secular jews are just as fervent in their belief of divine right as are the settlers, which is why there is no peace.

  3. xanadou
    January 27, 2017, 4:18 pm

    PW: “Why does Israel propagate myths of the tough neighborhood and the permanent war?”

    Perhaps because it reinforces the superimposed phony “chosen” separation from global humanity and codependent aspects between the diaspora and israelis. This clever tool as myth was created to assure parochial job security, massive powerful influence and insane wealth intended primarily for the benefit of the zios out of touch with the demands of the present day and especially the real priorities of the youngest generation of Jews in both worlds who do not have much in common beyond the outrageous corrupting abuses of a religion-as-enforcer. I hope that the spiritual religious tenets will survive, but without an effort, this last survivor among other regional religions of the Antiquities will very likely fade away into Oblivion: the zios need Jews to survive, Jews do not need the zios and their parasitic controlling tribal terror.

    The israeli govt. and their flunky useful idiots, from adelson to aipac, need to maintain this codependency by replaying ad nauseam, e.g., the whines invoking the hecatomb of the mid-20th century that no longer work. Worse, the whines have created a Pavlovian response that tunes out and turns off what belongs in a special and separate uniting space together with other incidents of genocidal savagery and is, instead, used for pedestrian purposes to, inter alia, save the jobs of those whose sole purpose is to separate and keep Jews separated from global humanity and contributing to the revival of old prejudices that until recently, were finally retreating into the dustbin of history.

    “And we never stop hearing what a terrible neighborhood Israel lives in.”
    That neighbourhood is israel’s only “accomplishment”. Without corrupting israel into a massive ghetto dominated and controlled by the zios, israelis and Arabs would have found common cause by themselves a very long time ago. Who knows, maybe they would also have learned to live without the oppressive tribal terror and become an equal member of the human family: clearly anathema to the zios whose continued existence depends on mumbling the mantra of Jews being “chosen” but without the missing following part: “to being slaves in the service to the white zios” whose existence depends on a society cheated out of learning to stand on their own two feet and to fight back when threatened, especially with extinction. I hope on everything that is sacred that we never again have to see or hear stories about Jews-as-sheep, dutifully submitting to the orders of their genocidal tormentors. And, no, a “tour of duty” in the israeli army does not accomplish that. The “army’s” sole purpose is to keep the unarmed natives in the crosshairs of the “soldiers’ ” weapons, and subject to trigger-happy violence that inevitably touches off desperate reliation that further adds to the ever-widening divide.

    I want to believe that the time is coming when Arabs living outside of Palestine will finally get rid of the Ottoman/colonial-learned passivity and respond to the uniting spirit the has brought them into the present: to fight, together with their israeli brothers and sisters, their common and deadly enemy, i.e., their pathocrat slave masters obsessed with Europe, rather than the region where they live. The zios have the title to neither; both want the evil at their door gone.

  4. JLewisDickerson
    January 27, 2017, 5:24 pm

    RE: “As long as Israel is under threat [chuckling], as long as Israel is not secure, there’s not a divorce. Halevai [would that it were so] we come to the day when there is peace– and if there is peace– that’s when you are going to deal with the issue of divorce.” ~ Foxman

    CHUCKLE, CHUCKLE, CHUCKLE, SEE: Netanyahu: “We Will Forever Live By The Sword”, Indefinitely Control All Palestinian Territory | By IMEMC News | Oct 27, 2015

    [EXCERPT] Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has announced his plan to control “all of the territory” and “live forever by the sword.”

    The remarks were reported in Haa’retz newspaper, according to PNN, in an article by journalist Barak Ravid.

    Mr Ravid wrote: “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday that although he doesn’t want a binational state, “at this time we need to control all of the territory for the foreseeable future.”

    MKs who took part in the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee meeting – today (Monday) – reportedly told Mr Ravid that Netanyahu had turned to the politicians present and said: “You think there is a magic wand here, but I disagree. I’m asked if we will forever live by the sword – yes.” . . .

    SOURCE – http://www.mintpressnews.com/netanyahu-we-will-forever-live-by-the-sword-indefinitely-control-all-palestinian-territory/210700/

    P.S. Damn, my throat is dreadfully parched. A nice, cold glass of pink champagne certainly would hit the spot.
    Arnon?
    Arnon, honey?
    Arnoooooooooooon, hell hath no fury like a woman (especially a Queen) deprived of her favorite, premium quality, pink champagne! ! !
    I might not be able to testify against my husband, but that doesn’t mean I can’t testify against you.

  5. broadside
    January 27, 2017, 7:54 pm

    ‘What Foxman’s epiphany suggests is that the level of manipulation here is more profound and sinister than I could allow myself to imagine: That Israel chooses violence as an “available, reasonable” answer because it binds American Jews to its side, forever. That’s very dark, yes; and I am not given to cynicism, but progressives need to ask themselves: Why does Israel propagate myths of the dangerous neighborhood and and the permanent war?’

    I’m so sick of this crap. Makes staring at lint in your navel seem like a good use of your time.

  6. Maghlawatan
    January 27, 2017, 10:30 pm

    History is a record of “effects” the vast majority of which nobody intended to produce.”
    ― Joseph Alois Schumpeter

    and the permanent war policy of Zionism’s leaders has delivered a permanently traumatised Yossi Israeli. And I am not sure this should be the point of a Jewish state. The problem with mass trauma is that it can’t be controlled.

    http://addictinginfo.org/2014/07/28/israeli-mobs-hunt-palestinians-chanting-schools-out-in-gaza-there-are-no-children-left/

    It is important to remember that for 1900 years Judaism did not have power. There is no memory bank of how to do things , one that might say for example that you have to look after the emotional health of the people, that there are limits to what is feasible. The Torah is supposed to regulate this kind of stuff but there is a problem with the education system too.

    • Mooser
      January 28, 2017, 4:56 pm

      “It is important to remember that for 1900 years Judaism did not have power.”

      And now Judaism has even less. What little moral and religious power Judaism has was handed over to the Zionists.

      • xanadou
        January 29, 2017, 4:20 pm

        “what little moral and religious power Judaism has…”

        Judaism still has significant power. Without it, the zios would have had to invent a new whip with which to terrorize their useful tribal idiots into continued obedient submission.

        More importantly, Judaism has awesome rabbis, such as Rabbi Arik Ascherman, director of Rabbis For Human Rights:
        http://rhr.org.il/eng/contact/
        who, periodically, is featured on YouTube confronting the soldiers’ brutality. I am confident that people like Rabbi Arik Ascherman are the best conduit to reach the best in the faithful who want the current horror ended, preferably before it backfires with a vengeance.

        For this atheist, science offers infinitely more fascinating facts and theories than the most audacious myths-as-facts invented for a centuries-removed audience, but I have great respect for anyone who lives by the humane rules imposed on the faithful by any source of spiritual support, so very much needed when confidence in humanity disappoints.

  7. Ossinev
    January 28, 2017, 7:07 am

    “We have enemies with mentalities of the 11th century holding weapons of the 21st century”

    Hell that`s nothing Herr Lapid (centrist my a…) – they have enemies( guess who) with 2000BC mentalities holding weapons of the 21st century.

    • just
      January 28, 2017, 11:43 am

      Exactly what I was thinking, Ossinev.

    • bintbiba
      January 28, 2017, 6:02 pm

      ” Hell that`s nothing Herr Lapid (centrist my a…) – they have enemies( guess who) with 2000BC mentalities holding weapons of the 21st century. ”

      Just my thought earlier, Ossinev …. But you put it so much better than I could have !

  8. RobertHenryEller
    January 28, 2017, 10:43 am

    Exactly the opposite, Mr. Foxman.

    American Jews are now divorcing Israel precisely because we are sick and tired of Israel not being at peace.

    You are a dangerous and delusional madman, Mr. Foxman.

    • Mooser
      January 28, 2017, 4:51 pm

      “You are a dangerous and delusional madman, Mr. Foxman.”

      Does Mr. Foxman says his wife loves it when he beats her?. If he ever stops she’d be out the door.

      But what about anti-zionists, like me? Gee, if Israel was the least bit successful, I wouldn’t have much to say beyond some nattering religious objections, would I?

  9. Maghlawatan
    January 29, 2017, 2:07 pm

    The light in the top photo is stunning. Palestine is so beautiful

    • Mooser
      January 31, 2017, 4:04 pm

      “The light in the top photo is stunning. Palestine is so beautiful”

      Yeah, they have a different Sun in that hemisphere.

      (Swore to myself when I was still pre-BM that I would never go near the place.)

  10. Boomer
    January 29, 2017, 3:09 pm

    Another good essay, Phil. Did you delete the reference to chuckles? It’s a good joke, after all, on Americans. (Palestinians don’t get the humor, of course.) It’s only natural that you “seize on . . . statements . . . issued in the same progressive space: the famous B’nai Jeshurun, which is dedicated to openness and tolerance.” [sic, and sick]. But why shouldn’t Zionists control that space? Consider what else they control in America: Congress, the Executive Branch, Wall Street, and the mainstream media, including op-ed pages from WSJ to NYT. Your little corner of the WWW is an exception, of course. May you live long and prosper.

  11. Talkback
    January 30, 2017, 8:28 am

    Jewish terrorism and antisemitism. The two pillars of “Israel”.

  12. Eva Smagacz
    January 31, 2017, 2:25 am

    Funny – Forward has the article on this very subject, and especially with comments it illustrates and supports Phil’s theses beautifully:

    http://forward.com/scribe/361639/diaspora-jews-have-no-right-to-impose-our-policy-preferences-on-israel/

    • Boomer
      January 31, 2017, 2:17 pm

      So Mr. Gladstone of Brown University complains that, “the idea that Diaspora Jews, and especially Jews in America, have a right to interfere in Israeli political and court decisions comes from a very problematic culture of American exceptionalism and imperialism,” but he doesn’t object to using American power to impose dispossession and oppression on Palestinians. I’m not impressed by his logic or his moral clarity.

      • Mooser
        January 31, 2017, 3:56 pm

        “So Mr. Gladstone of Brown University complains that….”

        “a very problematic culture of American exceptionalism and imperialism”, has nothing to do with why Israel is this way?

  13. Kathleen
    January 31, 2017, 4:22 pm

    Foxman There is a “continuous crisis” between American Jews and Israeli Jews over fundamental value differences, from occupation to freedom of worship, he said.

    We all know a relatively new, welcome and healthy crisis between American Jews and others blindly supporting Israel no matter what they do….

    You have to wonder what Foxman would call the fact that many have woken up to the fact that the possibility of a two state solution is over. That the crisis for many is now that Israel continues to rush towards the one state solution or revealing that they are an apartheid state

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