Israel interferes in our politics all the time, and it’s never a scandal

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I completely believe that Donald Trump was in bed with the Russians before the election and the campaign may well have intrigued with Vladimir Putin with respect to Wikileaks and that helped defeat Hillary Clinton. I believe that because that’s how the world works; because a lot of very smart people in the liberal establishment believe it; and because the New York Times and Washington Post are documenting some of it, with the fervor of Watergate.

Maybe it will bring the liar in chief down some day and end this short national nightmare. I certainly hope so.

But there are two large exceptions to the Russian conspiracy. The first is that it is good policy for the United States to be talking to Russia. If Clinton were president today, there might be dogfights over Damascus. Her gang was all for regime change in Syria, and for confrontation over the Ukraine. That’s bad policy. I’m glad they’re not running the show– though they are certainly running this story. Before you get too upset about Russia winking at the sanctions, the scandal that brought down Michael Flynn, please recall that in 2012, President Obama sent secret signals to Iran to ignore congressional sanctions, we’ll be talking to you once I’m reelected. Obama got reelected; and his deal with Iran is one of the greatest achievements of a very good presidency. Again, this is how the world works.

Which brings up the second exception. Israel tried to interfere in that 2012 election, as Chris Matthews sensibly reminded his audience recently: Benjamin Netanyahu tried to help Mitt Romney beat Obama. Sheldon Adelson held a fundraiser in Jerusalem for Romney.

Netanyahu didn’t stop there. After Romney lost, Netanyahu came to Congress to tell the Congress to reject President Obama’s nuclear deal. That was an unprecedented interference of a foreign leader in our policy-making, enabled by the Israel lobby; but there were never any investigations about that. Subsequently Chuck Schumer said he was torn between a Jewish interest and the American interest, before voting against the president, and he paid no political/reputational price for it; while President Obama said that it would be an “abrogation” of his constitutional duty if he considered Israel’s interest ahead of the U.S.; for which Obama was called an anti-semite.

Throughout those negotiations, Obama could never address the fact that Israel has nukes. This lie is honored by the press, in a way that it would never honor Trump’s lies. And the manner in which Israel got nukes, including thefts from an American company with the complicity of the White House, is only investigated by peripheral figures.

The Israeli interference in our politics is the conspiracy in plain sight that no one in the media talks about because they’re too implicated themselves. The two top executives at the largest media company, Comcast, are pro-Israel; one of them, David Cohen, raised money for the Israeli army. Netanyahu’s speeches to Congress were written by Gary Ginsberg, an executive at another media company, Time Warner, but hey, that’s not an issue. Four New York Times reporters have had children serve in the Israeli army. One of them is columnist David Brooks, who says that he gets gooey-eyed when he visits Israel. He is one of several Zionists with columns at the Times. Tom Friedman justified the Iraq War because suicide bombers were going into Tel Aviv pizza parlors. (Huh?) Yesterday Martin Indyk said on National Public Radio that Jared Kushner’s strong Jewish background was an asset for his being a Middle East mediator, a job that Aaron David Miller, who also has a strong Jewish background, defined as being Israel’s lawyer. Indyk, himself a mediator, started a pro-Israel thinktank with Haim Saban, an Israeli-American who was Clinton’s biggest funder and who lately smeared Keith Ellison at a giant gathering at Brookings, which he also helps fund, as “clearly an anti-semite” and “anti-Israel;” and Jake Tapper of CNN moved on to the next question, presumably because smearing a public official in that manner is not news. Saban is also chummy with Jeffrey Goldberg, one of whose qualifications for being the best journalist in his generation, according to the Atlantic’s publisher, is that he served in the Israeli Defense Forces, because he felt that America was unsafe for Jews. One of Goldberg’s first hires as editor at the Atlantic is Julia Ioffe, who hates Russia, and who told a synagogue audience last year after she was attacked as a Jew by Trump supporters: “Personally I was kind of glad to see the outpouring of antisemitism” because people had forgotten that Jews and Israel are the “underdog.” At another NY synagogue, believing that he was speaking off the record, Dennis Ross, the longtime White House “mediator” of the peace process, said that American Jews must be “advocates” for Israel, not for Palestinians. Again, not a scandal. But when Rashid Khalidi, who wrote a book about the U.S. being imbalanced in the peace process, warned that neoconservatives would “infest” the Trump administration, he was smeared up and down as an anti-semite.

I could go on and on. I can’t because Netanyahu is in the White House today, and I need to get on the news. Netanyahu who President Obama met with countless times, Netanyahu who John Kerry talked to as secretary of state four times as often as he spoke to Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Which is hardly surprising, because as Kerry complained to Jeffrey Goldberg, we give Israel more military aid than we give the rest of the world combined, and meantime they ignore our warnings. They can ignore us because of the Israel lobby, including AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which doesn’t have to register as a foreign agent because of sleight-of-hand they pulled back in the 60s, defying Senator Fulbright.  AIPAC never gets called for this because the two countries are viewed to have completely congruent interests– when we don’t. So Phil Gordon leaves the State Department and goes to a conference in Israel just like Super Bowl winners going to Disneyland; all the Israeli ambassadors grew up in the States; and Benjamin Netanyahu came of age here, a subject that is never considered problematic; because we have a political discourse in which a leading liberal journalist, Eric Alterman, brags: “I was raised dually loyal my whole life.”

Alterman told a Jewish audience in New York he was alright with that because the U.S. can take a hit but Israel can’t. He then conceded that “bin Laden and 9/11 were to some degree inspired by U.S. support of Israel,” and so are the “pool of potential terrorists who want to attack the United States.” Though: “Dammit, if that’s the price we have to pay, then I’m willing to pay it.”

Other Americans may make a different calculation of U.S. interests. But let’s talk about Russia.

Thanks to Annie Robbins for guidance on this story, particularly the 2012 Iran/Obama detail.

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48 Responses

  1. just
    February 15, 2017, 5:42 pm

    Many thanks for this wonderfully successful piece, Annie and Phil!

    It can and should and will be passed along to the wilfully ignorant and/or incurious folks that unfortunately surround all of us.

    Bravo!

    • Annie Robbins
      February 16, 2017, 12:44 am

      just, it was all phil, i just shot off a couple emails. he’s very gracious and generous with handing out thank yous. ;)

    • Philemon
      February 16, 2017, 11:13 pm

      You “completely believe”? Why? Because other people do? Because other people say they do?

      You believe what you read in the newspapers? Completely? What you see on the news? Completely?

      No, of course not.

  2. Keith
    February 15, 2017, 7:11 pm

    PHIL- “Maybe it will bring the liar in chief down some day and end this short national nightmare. I certainly hope so.”

    Are you that out of touch with reality? The neocon led Deep State has orchestrated a silent coup to overturn the election and return to anti-Russian hostilities, along with a pivot to Asia, and you are pleased? The only positive thing about the Trump administration was it’s stated intent to demilitarize US foreign policy and get control of the intelligence services. Whether he was sincere or could have made a difference we will never know. Effectively, US foreign policy is back with the CIA led Deep State. The silver lining may be that Trump’s ineptitude may hinder the process. It is also possible (likely?) that he will be impeached for all of the wrong reasons. An additional silver lining may be that this demonstrates the relative weakness of the Presidency versus the Deep State. All of this ridiculous talk of Trump’s fascism and the danger of a dictator in regards to the weakest administration I can remember. Hopefully, this Deep State power struggle will interfere with the imperial agenda at least somewhat. And for you to get caught up in this bogus narrative is, I suppose, to be expected.

    I have got a couple of quotes and links to put this in perspective for those who care.

    “Trump’s National Security Advisor Flynn resigned after only three weeks in office. While I am certainly no fan of Flynn or of Trump I find this defenestration a dangerous event. It will hamper any big change in U.S. foreign policy that Trump may envision.

    The resignation followed a highly orchestrated campaign against Flynn by intelligence officials, the media and some people within the White House.” (Moon of Alabama) http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-flynn-defenestration-by-us-intelligence-will-hamper-trumps-foreign-policy-us-russia-relations-on-hold/5575055

    “It took the Neocons and the US deep state less than a month to overturn the results of the Presidential election.

    Trump now declares that he “expects Russia to return Crimea“.

    It’s over folks – welcome (back) to the war between Russia and the Empire.” (The Saker) http://thesaker.is/the-anti-flynn-deep-state-coup-spelling-it-out-in-the-clearest-way-possible/

    Link to Dennis Kucinich interview discussing Flynn and the intel services:
    http://thesaker.is/kucinich-pins-flynn-leak-on-intel-community-warns-of-another-cold-war/

  3. JWalters
    February 15, 2017, 7:59 pm

    “The Israeli interference in our politics is the conspiracy in plain sight that no one in the media talks about because they’re too implicated themselves.”

    Extremely true, and extremely central. Another Pulitzer Prize worthy article from Mondoweiss on this key problem for America.

    Correcting this will require MSM editors and reporters with courage. A lot of face-saving will be attempted, but the courage to admit a mistake would be best for the country.

    Perhaps Trump will have the effect of moving the discussion in a more open and complete direction, e.g. “Jewish groups battle over Trump’s choice for Israel ambassador”
    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/02/jewish-groups-ambassador/comment-page-1/

    • inbound39
      February 16, 2017, 3:11 pm

      JWalters….the frustrating part is too many Americans know about Israeli Interference and manipulation of their government yet insist on sitting on their combined butts doing nothing about it….just like the Brits did during Chamberlains day….the future is ominous.

  4. DaBakr
    February 15, 2017, 8:57 pm

    PW believes the conspiracy because ‘ a lot of smart liberals say so’ *Smart liberals? Like the smart liberals who detested the so-called deal with Iranian tyrant mullahs and IRG? Like the smart liberals who turned off their brains to Stalins evil post ww2?

    As for Kerry talking about how much aid Israel gets from the US check out the begin-sadat center(BESA) for research on which countries Actually, not just in technical loan guarantees but the actual cost dollars to the US and citizens in dollars and cents. Certainly a different b4 perspective on ‘aid’ and US blood.

    * Reminds me of what a rabbi told me in my youth to no real avail. In answer to questions about why the specific laws of Judaism must be followed rigorously he said, “all you have to do is recognize that just one person you consider smarter then yourself believes in the torah and Talmud and you can then more easily accept it as an necessary practice that you yourself have not learned the full knowledge of yet” pw listens to smart liberals but probably only the one he already preappoves of in the first place. What an open minded editor.

    • Mooser
      February 15, 2017, 10:39 pm

      “dabakr” you are mutttering again. Cut it out.

      Yeah, My Rabbi told me… you’d better shop around

    • RoHa
      February 16, 2017, 7:42 am

      ““all you have to do is recognize that just one person you consider smarter then yourself believes in the torah and Talmud and you can then more easily accept it as an necessary practice that you yourself have not learned the full knowledge of yet”

      It will astonish MW readers to learn that I consider quite a few people to be smarter than myself. Nonetheless, I also consider it possible that those people can be mistaken about at least some issues. Therefore, I follow my own judgment. If I accept their views, it is my judgement that they are likely to be right.

  5. Atlantaiconoclast
    February 15, 2017, 9:00 pm

    What evidence do you have that Russia interfered with our election? This claim is without any support. I don’t trust the pro Zionist anti Russian media. Why do you Phil?

    • Mooser
      February 15, 2017, 10:42 pm

      “I don’t trust the pro Zionist anti Russian media”

      Cause Russia is just like the US with freedom and democracy, and no civil rights laws, and no EPA regulations or financial regulations. Jeez, it’s the American Dream!

      • Atlantaiconoclast
        February 16, 2017, 10:15 pm

        How does your comment address my question? It doesn’t, cause you have no evidence, other than the testimony of the Deep State.

  6. echinococcus
    February 15, 2017, 9:57 pm

    The Яussians Я Coming! Liberals said so and we must believe it!

  7. traintosiberia
    February 15, 2017, 10:32 pm

    I think that bin Laden and 9/11 were to some degree inspired by U.S. support of Israel. I think a great deal of the terrorist attacks and the sort of pool of potential terrorists who want to attack the United States are inspired by the United States support for Israel. I’m not saying we shouldn’t support Israel for that reason. I’m saying, Dammit if that’s the price we have to pay, then I’m willing to pay it. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2011/07/eric-alterman-on-his-dual-loyalty-and-the-u-s-pressuring-palestinians-to-accept-their-historic-position/#sthash.7VAUh5gN.dpuf

    American ignorance imposed by the media allows this type of baldfaced assertions from Eric Alterman . Following 911 , it was raised but it was smacked down at every level as hateful conspiratorial ,evidences of sympathizing with terrorism,and as being of false moral equivalence- – loaded words with no foundation and with all the resources that would divert attention from possible solution .

  8. Jackdaw
    February 16, 2017, 12:09 am

    The United States just meddled in Israeli politics; which renders Phil’s argument into trash.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/state-department-grant-netanyahu-225414

    • Annie Robbins
      February 16, 2017, 12:35 am

      jack, how does it impact or contradict phil’s argument?

      • inbound39
        February 16, 2017, 3:14 pm

        The first casualty when Jackdaw speaks is the truth.

      • Jackdaw
        February 17, 2017, 10:42 am

        Russia’s meddling is illegal. Israel and United States meddling in each others’ affairs is legal.

        Ergo, Israel should not be singled out, unless she breaks laws.

        Phil singles Israel out, therefore this article is trash.

        But somehow, Annie, if failed to convince you.

      • CigarGod
        February 17, 2017, 10:52 am

        Jack just writes that stuff on the stink bombs he throws into the room.

      • Mooser
        February 17, 2017, 11:50 am

        “Jackdaw” use the “caps lock” key when writing a sentence like “Israel and United States meddling in each others’ affairs is legal”.
        If you put it in ‘all caps’ it’ll be true.

      • Mooser
        February 17, 2017, 12:12 pm

        ergo”

        Little known fact: The “Ergo” was a ‘sister ship’ to the “Exodus”.

    • lysias
      February 16, 2017, 6:13 am

      If U.S. meddling in Israeli politics justifies Israeli meddling in ours, doesn’t that mean that U.S. meddling in Russian politics justifies Russian meddling in ours?

      Personally, I think Russian meddling to prevent the election of a candidate who supported policies that could well have caused war between the U.S. and Russia would have been not only justifiable, but perfectly right and proper.

      • inbound39
        February 16, 2017, 3:50 pm

        You also need to question Trump demanding Russia leave Crimea because they took it by force but he is fine with Israel taking Palestinian Land by force and he doesn’t ask Israel to leave Palestinian Territory. It’s why America has become a laughing stock and lost its integrity and standing.

      • Atlantaiconoclast
        February 16, 2017, 10:17 pm

        Russia did not take Crimea with force. They were already there! No Ukrainian soldier was injured in the transfer of power. The people of Crimea made it clear that they wanted to rejoin Russia.

    • amigo
      February 16, 2017, 6:47 am

      “The United States just meddled in Israeli politics; – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/02/interferes-politics-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-870837” Jokedaw

      Somebody has to save the Israeli Jews from themselves.Not that I care if you end up without your precious religious , supremacist rogue entity.

      So babble on Jokedaw , I enjoy a little cabaret and slapstick comedy.

    • eljay
      February 16, 2017, 7:28 am

      || Jackdaw: The United States just meddled in Israeli politics; which renders Phil’s argument into trash. ||

      The United States meddles in Russian politics; which removes Phil’s arguments from the trash, dumps yours into the trash and covers them with moldy food scraps.

  9. iResistDe4iAm
    February 16, 2017, 10:03 am

    I completely believe that Donald Trump was in bed with the Russians before the election and the campaign may well have intrigued with Vladimir Putin with respect to Wikileaks and that helped defeat Hillary Clinton.

    Hillary Clinton lost the election because of the self-inflicted Hillary scandals (the first presidential candidate under FBI investigation) and the fact that her campaign lacked any direction apart from ‘I’m with Her’ and ‘Never Trump”. The Russians didn’t help Hillary set up an illegal mail server, nor did they delete at least 30,000 of Hillary’s emails to destroy the evidence. WikiLeaks has also stated that the source of the Podesta emails was not a state party.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/04/politics/assange-wikileaks-hannity-intv/

    Fake news wasn’t invented in 2016:
    – The Gulf of Tonkin incident was fake news, and so was the USA’s imminent victory in Vietnam (until well …they started to lose).
    – The Israel is an eternal victim surrounded by anti-semitic hordes is fake news.
    – The WMDs and the whole justification for the Iraq war was fake news.
    – The ‘Saddam Hussein is Hitler’, ‘Gaddafi is Hitler’, ‘Bashar al-Assad’ is Hitler, ‘Trump is Hitler’ is also fake news.

  10. RoHa
    February 16, 2017, 12:23 pm

    “I believe that because that’s how the world works”

    That is a reason for suspecting something, but not for believing without evidence or argument.

    “because a lot of very smart people in the liberal establishment believe it”

    And why do they believe it?

    Going along with the crowd is not a good reason for believing something, even if the crowd is the fashionable set. Or even if the crowd is actually people of intelligence.

    “and because the New York Times and Washington Post are documenting some of it, with the fervor of Watergate. ”

    And newspapers never peddle fake news, do they? Wait for the full story to be revealed before rushing to judgment.

    Credulity, thy name is Phil.

  11. RoHa
    February 16, 2017, 12:31 pm

    “Obama got reelected; and his deal with Iran is one of the greatest achievements of a very good presidency. ”

    Bollocks. If he had any guts he would have said no deal was necessary and lifted all sanctions.

    • inbound39
      February 16, 2017, 3:54 pm

      Exactly RoHa….Israel has illegal nukes and no one is sanctioning it or asking it to remove its nuclear weapons and Israel has had planes in the air with nuclear weapons on board.

      • Mooser
        February 16, 2017, 5:27 pm

        “.Israel has illegal nukes and no one is sanctioning it or asking it to remove its nuclear weapons and Israel has had planes in the air with nuclear weapons on board.”

        Wait a minute. Those illegal nuclear weapons Israel has aren’t the kind that kill Jews, too, right?

      • Philemon
        February 16, 2017, 11:34 pm

        Just a minor point, but Israel has never ever even tested a nuclear weapon of any sort. Why do you believe they have any?

      • RoHa
        February 17, 2017, 10:46 am

        There are suspicions that Israel conducted a test in the Negev, and another in the Indian Ocean. No confirmation, though.

      • Mooser
        February 17, 2017, 12:18 pm

        “Just a minor point, but Israel has never ever even tested a nuclear weapon of any sort. Why do you believe they have any?”

        Israel seem intent on convincing the world it has nuclear weapons, and plenty of ’em.

        If Israel wanted to prove to the world it has no nuclear (and jeez, illegal and uncontrolled, too) weapons all Israel has to do is sign the NPT, and get inspected. AmIrite?
        What could be wrong with that? (Well, it might be a problem knowing where to inspect, since nobody quite knows exactly where Israel is.)

      • inbound39
        February 22, 2017, 11:46 am

        Israel’s nukes kill jews if one missile from a saturation attack on Israel hits Dimona…..it then becomes uninhabitable not to mention it might suddenly become a glass state.

      • Sibiriak
        February 22, 2017, 9:13 pm

        inbound39: … one missile from a saturation attack on Israel hits Dimona…..it then becomes uninhabitable
        —————

        Source??

        From what I read, an attack on Dimona could result in radiation release and social/economic disruption, but would hardly make the country “uninhabitable.” And of course, Israel’s reaction to such an attack would be swift, massive and utterly devastating.

        So I wonder what’s the point of your repeated hyperbole on this point.

        ———————

        “Cf. Should Israel Close Dimona? The Radiological Consequences of a Military Strike on Israel’s Plutonium-Production Reactor”

        [..] a successful strike on an operating Dimona reactor that breached containment and generated an explosion and fire involving the core would present effects similar to a substantial radiological weapon or dirty bomb.

        Although consequences would represent only a small fraction of the Chernobyl release , for Israel, a country the size of New Jersey with a population of some six million, the relative economic dislocation, population relocation, and immediate and lingering psychological trauma could be significant… [emphasis added]

        https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2008_05/Dimona#15

        —————–
        If you have info that contradicts that assessment, please provide citations/links.

      • oldgeezer
        February 22, 2017, 11:19 pm

        @sibiriak

        Not questioning your sources or position but i would hope anyone wanting peace and justice would not want such a scenario.

        I disavow myself from anyone wanting death or destruction.

      • Sibiriak
        February 23, 2017, 10:31 am

        old geezer: but i would hope anyone wanting peace and justice would not want such a scenario.

        Absolutely. (I’m not sure why you chose to begin that clause with “but”, as there is no conflict between my statement and yours.)

        inbound39 has repeatedly brought up the possibility of an attack on Dimona:
        ,
        http://mondoweiss.net/profile/inbound39/?keyword=Dimona

        Apparently, he/she relishes the idea of Israel’s vulnerability, but I think these hyperbolic assertions are misguided and counterproductive.

      • oldgeezer
        February 23, 2017, 11:09 am

        @sibiriak

        Poorly phrased on my part I guess. My post wasn’t questioning your position as much as merely offering support against violence regardless of the scope or extent of damage. I would prefer a peaceful solution.

        Not a true pacifist… I do recognize violence is sometimes necessary. And in the case of I/P the result of many decades of abuse piled upon the Palestinians.

    • Mooser
      February 16, 2017, 6:13 pm

      “Bollocks. If he had any guts he would have said no deal was necessary and lifted all sanctions.”

      Yeah, by Executive Order!

    • Atlantaiconoclast
      February 16, 2017, 10:19 pm

      spot on!

  12. catalan
    February 17, 2017, 12:07 pm

    My view – the more “meddling” in each other’s affairs, the better. On balance, the emergence of “national” identity in the last three centuries or so, versus a regional and cultural one as before that, has been a tragedy.
    The current world order seems to be very nationalistic compared to prior periods. The spread of knowledge has not led to a more intelligent or compassionate populace because of the differences of abilities due to nature and nurture. Social media therefore seems to indoctrinate people rather than make them open minded.
    Ultimately, we in the United States, are free to vote for whoever we want, or nobody. Let’s take responsibility for our decisions rather than look for some force to blame, Russians, Zionists, Free Masons, etc.

    • Mooser
      February 17, 2017, 1:23 pm

      And “Catalan” mashes Dr. Pangloss with “How to Argue For Israel Without Really Trying”.

      And by the time “catalan” is done, the Freemasons on Facebook are responsible for Zionism.

      • catalan
        February 17, 2017, 2:17 pm

        Mooser, I thought that dr pangloss was a somewhat unfair and anti-religious caricature of Leibniz, showing how the theory that we live in the best possible world is untrue and that human suffering has to be addressed. I won’t respond to the merits of either side but I do think that the world of humans might become better through gradual change.

        As to the four stages you mention I certainly don’t think that “we rock” because I don’t have a “we”, I am a dual citizen, an immigrant, etc. I don’t know who they are that suck, so called, because I like everyone and believe each person does what they can with what they are given. You don’t suck, either, why would I think or say that. As to everything sucks, well I can think of many things that don’t, for instance, roses, cherries, the ocean, medical professionals, beautiful women, and many other things.

        We rock
        They suck
        You suck
        Everything sucks

      • Mooser
        February 17, 2017, 3:12 pm

        Waste all the space you want, “catalan”. Be my guest.

    • oldgeezer
      February 22, 2017, 11:24 pm

      You distance yourself from national identity yet favour Israel and zionists as your archive shows.

      Zionism is the same as any other abhorrent -ism born in the latter 19tb century. Same racist underpinnings. Same supremacist underpinnings. It is vile and foul.

      If you mean what you say then call it what it is. I will accept you as my neighbour as readily ad you accept me as yours. I reject you when you add an except for clause to your supposed beliefs. Zionism is all about exclusivity and rejecting others. Nothing less.

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