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Annie Robbins

Annie Robbins is Editor at Large for Mondoweiss, a mother, a human rights activist and a ceramic artist. She lives in the SF bay area. Follow her on Twitter @anniefofani

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  • Tell your congressperson: Don't attend Netanyahu's speech
    • Well, there’s a great little piece of nut-job agitprop right there. Backward insult at Phil by mentioning the “real Journalist” North

      tree, that is what i meant upthread when i said i couldn't recall a time when yonah complimented phil "unless perhaps once you tried to couch an insult." not sure if "couch" is the right word, perhaps cushion is better. it's a set up.

      mooser, i found that video googling meshuga (crazy) but it seemed to fit the context. crazy assimilated jews! ;) ahhhh lol

    • except that atrocious is the adjective and atrocity is a noun.

      wow, she's a beauty

      yonah: no she's not, don't be cheap! she's beautiful, they are really quite different!

      edit: hmm, maybe i should reverse those in case yonah doesn't know the difference between a noun and an adjective.

      wow, she's beautiful

      yonah: no she's not, don't be cheap! she's a beauty, they are really quite different!

    • Hearing what he has to say? hasn't he been making speeches about iran since the early 90's? we already know what he has to say. and besides, he's speaking at aipac and all of the congress people will be there anyway. don't pretend this is business as usual.

      Netanyahu is merely a pawn in the internal politics of today`..

      zzzzz

    • a strong swimmer getting pointers from someone who’s barely mastered the dog paddle

      that's an excellent analogy too tree. and of course, that war with iran.. but also the act itself, to announce directly after the state of the union address (which traditionally is followed by a response by an AMERICAN opposition speaker from the other party) to announce that a foreign leader with a view opposing the president will be addressing a joint session of congress - that's really lowball gutter politics. and then for the president to find out from the press at the same time as the american public? and that it's israel? the country that already has congress eating out of it's hand? can you even imagine if that became routine. to have the PM of israel, the dog's tail, address congress after the SOU every year? i would die. our forefathers would be rolling in their graves.

      but you're right , the historic atrocity is a foreign leader pushing us to war. and like iraq, the israelis won't be dying. they'll be advising, expanding their illegal colonies, taking our money and planning our next 'intervention' on their behalf.

    • oh thank you tree, coming from you that is quite a compliment. ;)

    • of course they support him. i mean, even if they overtly don't prefer netanyahu they support the relationship with congress and have invested so much in it they will downplay anything that puts that at risk. yesterday ivri tried to pass this off as "usual political theatre" -or claimed that's what obama thought. plllllease

      ok, let's place bets. how many standing ovations will he get? will they top the 29 from last time? do they dare?

    • Jews who’s genes are all mixed up

      LOL! omg ~ you're hysterical! that's not what it means!!!

      meshuggah ;) lol

    • why don’t you put it on Twitter: “Phil Weiss says “atrocity”!”

      but mooser, it was "historic atrocity" !!!! ahhhh !!!!

    • omg just, this video is perfect! can't stop laughing.

    • your 4000 plus comments is a testament to your critiques, they are routinely un-complementary towards the opinions here, that's not surprise to you is it? you are a critic here, a zionist at a non zionists site, that's your role here - a mouthpiece for the opposition. what you advocate, according to comments and your profile, makes your position clear. this is not an insult, it is an accurate description.

      under those circumstances (and feel free to point out a handful of complementary posts directed at the site that contradict my assessment if you think i am wrong) "wouldn’t it thereby make the comment more appealing to his supporters, not less." ? it's a fair question.

      and i think it is atrocious yes. and obviously it is historic. it's just not done. that's not "cheap" it's the way he sees it and the way many see it whether you agree or not. calling someones assessment "cheap" is an insult, it's not a challenge. it's meant to incite and degrade.

      "have no interest in finding anything appealing about phil’s ideas or writing"

      i really can't recall a time when you complimented phil's ideas unless perhaps once you tried to couch an insult.

      clarity is precisely what Phil obscures here with his Zionism obsession. - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

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      Last week Phil told us that he is an American and a former Jew. (I know i will take hits for my inexactitude.) This week he dons the mantle of Jew once more. Why? In order to utter the only phrase of Yiddish that he apparently knows: Mea culpa. And by mea, he doesn't mean him. He means the other meshugene Jews who refuse to assimilate like him.

      =====

      Last week Phil flushed "Jew" down the drain- why shed any tears over one more disappearing language? But this week Phil has salvaged "Jew" from the ash heap of his story, so that he can attack Zionism from the inside, as one of the tribe.

      Spare us, white American Phil Weiss

      - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

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      let me put it in inciteful terms. phil has to wait until omar barghouti tells him what to write. has to get it lined up with the party line first. - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

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      It's the front story around the world, but Phil gives it a pass. - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

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      The headline is quite positive that the 2016 elections will threaten Israel's isolation, but in the text of the article, Phil treats the thought with mockery - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

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      When did Phil Weiss stop being a journalist and sign up as full fledged out to lunch propagandist? - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

      and today he reads like "a street corner nut agit prop idiot"! you're outdoing even yourself!

      after years of your ad hominems it's me that's "true to form" -- to point this out? surely you jest. earth to yonah, i didn't have to search high and low for those insults of yours, i merely placed "phil" in a search of your comments and took them in order one by one from the ones at the top of the page. there are 359 to choose from, maybe you should go digging and find a compliment: link to mondoweiss.net ~ happy hunting!

      so, i repeat my question, coming from you wouldn’t it thereby make the comment more appealing to his supporters, not less? who's the miserly pinchbeck yonah? another fair question. your insults just get worse and worse. and then you whine when it's thrown back at you. and you lecture us on what's appealing? we might as well take lessons on appeal from ebenezer scrooge!

    • cheapening of the language cheapened your appeal.

      that's funny coming from someone who hangs out here to "cheapen the appeal."

      that's the purpose of all your comments directed at phil. so coming from you wouldn't it thereby make the comment more appealing to his supporters, not less. the only people who are going to agree with you are those like yourself, who have no interest in finding anything appealing about phil's ideas or writing, or any of the other writing on this site for that matter.

    • bilal, phil wrote about this in novemebr link to mondoweiss.net

  • On the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz
    • People here have already painted Israel as the closest thing the Nazi Germany and Apartheid South Africa on the planet

      institutionally, and aside from current conflicts that have arisen this century, what governments do you think best represents the closest thing to nazi germany and/or apartheid south africa on the planet today?

      The Zionist regime is Israel.

      no it's not. and iraq wasn't sadam's regime. don't confuse a regime with the country and people it represents.

    • me too. i wish he wasn't so down on the bds movement. i think he views it an monolithic but it isn't. oh well, i forgive norm for not being perfect or everything, but wow, he's an amazing person and scholar. i have his book method and madness on my bedside table right now. he's..norm!!!

  • Occupier’s justice: heads and tails you lose
    • p.s. i thought this might be of interest to folks. when looking for a good graphic for this article i googled Mr Abdul Karim Al Jaabari's name and sure enough was able to locate this photo from 2011. i embedded the link in the photo description above. there's some extra background text there with another photo of Jaabari.

      Over the years his two wells have been destroyed, olive trees cut, windows smashed, children beaten and he is prevented from walking on his own land. The purpose of this violence is to force the family to leave, as the land has a strategic value. If taken by the settlers it would provide a route between the two settlements and create another bloc of land within Palestinian territory, further restricting Palestinian access and movement. The settlers, protected by the army, erected a tent on this land and established it as a synagogue.

      The Israeli Supreme Court found the land to be legitimately owned by Abdul Karim, and the synagogue tent to be illegal. Yet despite this, the Israeli Army still prevent Abdul Karim from accessing his land and although the tent was once removed by police, it was erected by the settlers the following day.

      more at the link (highlighted in photo description)

    • bornajoo, i wish i had invented that phrase but alas, it's not original ;)

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  • Like the Wind, We Will Be Free: How being detained at Ben Gurion airport during a family trip to Palestine reaffirmed my identity
    • sorry the he saids she saids we publish don't stand out for you. here's some current he said she saids by palestinian intellectuals, albeit not all in palestine at the moment.
      link to mondoweiss.net
      link to mondoweiss.net
      link to mondoweiss.net
      link to mondoweiss.net

      i don't think you have commented on any of these posts, all recent. perhaps it is because when you hear their voices they are not immediately recognizable, necessarily, as palestinian. anyway, not sure what else to say.

    • speaking of limitless capacity for rhetoric-based self-empowerment .... remember that israeli ethnic cleanser - can't recall which one- said about palestinians that the old would die off and the young would forget? sorry to be the gal with the cold water but, he was sure wrong wasn't he?

    • allison interviewed Palestinian Liberation Organization’s Negotiation Affairs Department Spokesperson Ashraf Khatib a few days ago. also referenced Palestinian Ambassador to the United Nations Riyad Mansour, and others here: - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

      you might review other of her articles here: link to mondoweiss.net

      also, we've published lots of palestinian professionals and intellectuals.

    • we are like the wind. And nobody can break the wind. ...Our presence – our identity – is alive

      beautiful and strong. thank you!

      ;)

  • 'NYT' and Matthews warn that Netanyahu speech to Congress could lead US to war
    • RoHa, where did you find this website? you are a freak!

    • lol! just you crack me up.

    • now you're playing partisan politics considering Reps. Frank Wolf, Joe Pitts and Robert Aderholt met with Assad in Damascus the day before she arrived and like them, there was nothing she said there that was against stated american policy goals.

      unlike this latest deplorable and unprecedented "invitation" there's nothing unprecedented (or highly unusual) about high ranking officials (and sometimes not so high ranking) including congresspeople making trips to visit foreign leaders outside the purview of the white house. (as i mentioned they go to israel all the time, often sans seeking "authorization" from the WH). example link to huffingtonpost.com
      link to huffingtonpost.com

      your pelosi argument here is a diversion anyway, because the analogy you're making doesn't pertain to netanyahu's action (which happens to be the topic -and it's highly likely this "idea" came from team netanyahu, either dermer or the PM himself), but house speaker boehner. your analogy involves what is or isn't considered normal protocol for congressional diplomacy. whereas netanyahu is a foreign leader w/a policy pitted against the prez. pelosi didn't invite assad to address to congress against the will of bush. so there's your apples and oranges. the criticisms all over the talk shows today are not about boehner. he did what's now expected of lobby pushovers, it's netanyahu's chutza that's in being criticized.

    • an unofficial diplomatic capacity (without authorization from the White House)

      so that's your standard of unofficial diplomatic capacity? LOL. good to know. You need to work on your comprehension skills so you don’t embarrass yourself like this again..

    • she was the speaker of the house. this is the equivalent of John Boehner or Eric Cantor leading a delegation to israel without asking the president's permission. happens all the time. in fact aipac arranges these trips regularly. romney went there without asking Obama's permission too. it doesn't violate protocol for members of congress to visit other countries without asking permission of the israel lobby.

      nice try, no cigar.

    • i agree. and it's never occurred to me iran would use a nuclear weapon. it's strikes me as completely illogical given their history.

  • When discussing Islam, which Islam and whose rationality? 
    • But that does not mean that all religious schools avoid the tendencies I described. And since non-religious schools can do just as good a job, it seems wiser to avoid religious schools altogether.

      i lived in a region with good public schools because i could afford to. i moved from a town once my son approached adolescence because the options were all crappy. i never claimed "all religious schools avoid the tendencies" you described and i stated "each situation should be judged independently" as well as "if i lived in an area with an exemplary muslim school nearby, as opposed to having to bus my child to a far off western school (especially if i lived in some region of malaysia or something) i may very well want my child to attend. - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net"

      just because non-religious schools could do just as good a job, doesn't mean they all do. a lot has to do with the community. it only seems wiser to avoid religious schools altogether if good or better public schools in your area are available. i support public schools and always sent my son to one, but as i stated earlier, i also could afford moving to a better community because the one i lived in had a crappy junior school and high school. they could not manage the kids. it was a cultural nightmare as far as i was concerned. and a town where the vast majority of smart and creative kids left town as soon as they became emancipated. had there been a good school there, even if it was religious i would not have left town. but i left because we could afford to. sad. there are regions all across this country with crappy schools. my preference is to empower public schools, always. i am not into the voucher thing or private schools per se. but when your kid is growing up, in that window of time..it becomes immediate. you can't always wait for the system to catch up with where you want it to be.

      this is a big world and negating all religious schools simply because they have religious components is not smart. you should know that having taught at one yourself.

    • i agree with philemon. each situation should be judged independently. my neighbor who was running too wild in high school got sent off to a private quaker school in grass valley for the remaining years. she loved it and it changed her whole outlook on life. and her parents were not even quakers. sometime religious people put more emphasis on personal relations, cooperation, respect, manners, compassion and how to get along. it really depends on who's in charge. i would think nothing of sending my kid to a decent religious school if it came highly recommended, was nearby, the local public school was crap and full of drugs and violence, and i am not religious. all religious schools are not strict and awful and imposing just like all religious people are not that way either. i would also go to a christian, muslim, or jewish college. if i spoke arabic and lived in gaza i would definitely sign up for classes at IUG. plus, they have awesome literature classes there. history too i imagine.

    • i don't really understand that logic either. if i lived in an area with an exemplary muslim school nearby, as opposed to having to bus my child to a far off western school (especially if i lived in some region of malaysia or something) i may very well want my child to attend. and what would be the problem of a muslim child studying a musical instrument or biology from a secular person? i wouldn't understand why every teacher in a muslim school would be required to be muslim. what if there was a computer expert in the neighborhood? when my son was in school, junior high, i volunteered to teach art because the school was lacking in funds. i was assigned to kids who had recently immigrated many lacking in english - some no english, many from africa and the middle east. but in the topic (we created ceramic mosaic murals, the students designed them and they were beautiful) what difference would it make? i think it's important for kids to be exposed to people who are different than themselves. if a school had 500 children and some were of a different background, so what?

  • Jim Crow's polite sons
    • no but you wrote that unconditional solidarity was always dangerous and proceeded to use an example of solidarity with one ethnic group. while your example might be applicable had you written that unconditional solidarity was sometimes dangerous, it did not provide evidence it always was.

      however, perhaps it is always dangerous, or could be. but that doesn't mean it isn't still noble or worth dying for. maybe you should think of an example of how unconditional solidarity for "all struggles for the dignity that every precious woman, man and child deserve" is dangerous. because if you did then you could not conclude that it would lead "directly .. to unconditional solidarity with the Jewish state of Israel " which demanded ethnic cleansing.

      there were a lot of people who supported and were in solidarity with victims of the holocaust (unconditionally and otherwise) who did not support the state of israel btw.

    • this is a brilliant much needed essay. thank you Ned Rosch, for your essay and your contribution to society and human rights.

    • you should try to catch the big fish.

      all politics is local. and no, policemen are not at the bottom of the hierarchy of state employees. not when they're decked out in military gear and protected by other state and local authorities by grand juries whose prosecutors (also state employees) protect their kind. they are neither meter maids or postal workers who do not carry firearms or have the authority to kill people. hierarchy is not just about salaries, it's about control.

      The system is rotten from top to bottom, not from bottom to top.

      but to catch the big fish you need to mobilize the masses. there's power on the street when there's unity.

  • Exhibit of iconic 1948 photos -- 'The Long Journey' -- opens today in NYC
    • it was really amazing how he went back and met those people years later. in so many cases he remembered who he photographed and where he was. when he went back to khan younis..to the hill and replicated the boys running as they had then, it made me cry. it was so beautiful.

    • i just added a video at the base that i highly recommend.

  • Netanyahu speech could turn Israel lobby into a political football
    • I think the times for a national characterization of a website has passed.

      sorry, we're still living in a world where haaretz is israeli and politico and wapo are US. my point is that if you scroll up to the top of the page, there are links to over 5 US mainstream media sources, phil's other post [ "‘NYT’ and Matthews warn that Netanyahu speech to Congress could lead US to war" - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net ] cites many more (including israeli sites citing US sources, updated with fox news video "Chris Wallace on Fox calls the deal “wicked,” done behind John Kerry’s back -" See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

      iow, we've made available here (for your convenience and the convenience of the rest of our readers) an across the board variety of US mainstream news - expressing how unusual this is. disagreeing with it is one thing, but stating - against all evidence - 'There is little question the prez (or anyone else besides a cadre of neocons for that matter) views this "invitation" (likely cooked up by netanyahu himself, originally as a counter offensive to obama's SOU address) as part of "usual political theatre in the US"' defies logic. the vast majority of our readers are americans as are we. try saying that in norway, sri lanka or tanzania for all i care, but here? forget it.

      wait and see how it develops in practice and then we shall be wiser – it is just a matter of weeks.

      in your dreams! in your dreams it will become "usual political theatre in the US" for the israeli prime minister to deliver a counter SOU address to the american people from the same podium as POTUS in opposition to american FP and the prez! but i'll tell you one thing for sure, if that happens, this will never be accomplished in "just a matter of weeks". sure, netanyahu may come, he may say, again, what he's been saying for years as if everyone doesn't already know his position, but it's a fantasy that between now and then it will appear as "usual political theatre".

      the republican party breaking with the prez to back a foreign power, that is something that will not go down well with an american patriot, a wide swath of the american public. think of how many references there were in the press to those 29 standing ovations? and that was years ago. the US and Israel have NOT become that close. don't confuse talking pts with reality, we're a long way from that. congress, not so much with their bending over backwards for the lobby. but don't forget the infamous SNL "fellating the donkey" skit.

      it is a fantasy to imagine because congress votes 100-0 for israel that means the american public are 100% on board. the day this becomes "usual" will likely never come, and if it does it will mark a very very sad day for our country. what you are hearing now are the screams of discontent from all quarters of the media, even fox news.

      i predict netanyahu will, eventually, rue the day he used US joint session of congress as a platform for his "much needed self-aggrandizing" election shenanigans. now that's something we can "wait and see how it develops ... – it is just a matter of weeks." but there's no way it will be regarded as "usual political theatre" within a matter weeks.

    • AMAZING taxi!

    • my son is going crazy over the seahawks. he's a diehard fan having grown up in seattle. he's in LA now, but man, especially his social media over the last year or so, just going nuts over seahawks. and i know nothing about football but apparently what happened last weekend just blew everything out of the water. fun. it's fun to see him so happy!

    • There is little question that Obama views all that as part of the usual political theatre in the US

      you've really not been paying attention ivri. get out of your israeli bubble. what's the point of posting on a US website if you completely, blatantly ignore the information coming at you. find one, just one article in the msm stating this "invitation" from some speaker of the house or whatever he is, is considered, by obama (or anyone else for that matter) , as "part of the usual political theatre in the US". there's nothing usual about it in the least. at least if you're going to comment on the matter you could take actual news reports into consideration and not completely fabricate a reality that doesn't exist.

    • That`s how close the US and Israel has become and Netanyahu, in particular, is viewed as a “local” politician.

      no, he is not. in your dreams perhaps.

    • great article phil, why mondoweiss is the best place to get the news. thanks.

  • How a culture remembers its crimes is important: A review of 'American Sniper'
  • Letter from a Texas Maximum Security Prison: A personal reflection on Martin Luther King Day
    • they are not terrorists nor were they even charged with being terrorists. you should read up on what you're commenting on, see the embeds in the article. and keep your poisonous thoughts out of this thread or i'll do it for you.

    • thanks gamal. this is an excellent article. phil sent it to me last week and it's in the plan to cover it.

    • Keep the hope for something better.

      a presidential pardon, oh please please please.

    • thanks gamal. i will asked his daughter to send him a message. but i wouldn't change his words myself because i believe these are crucial historical words. words that someday may be as scrutinized as martin's. it is part of our nations history, and therefore until i hear from the family i am neither qualified or authorized to alter the text beyond clearly typographical errors.

      it could mean a mutiny from morals.

    • i know what you mean bintbiba. when i first read this last night my whole heart just soared/went crazy. it's just....indescribably .. my ideas about these powerful words and the idea this hero of mine is in jail, denied his family, and the world denied his service to humanity, along with those of his comrades. such injustice is ... incomprehensible.

      we are so honored having his words here. so very honored.

    • gamal, do you mean you don't think the word is correct? unfortunately he is not available to ask although i can contact his daughter.

  • Obama won't meet Netanyahu during 'bizarre,' 'historic,' 'unprecedented' visit (Updated)
    • General Douglas MacArthur was American five-star general and chief of staff of the U.S. army. i guess i am not clear how he compares to a foreign leader or how his address could be referenced as a 'farce'.

      on April 19, 1951, MacArthur made his last official appearance in a farewell address to the U.S. Congress presenting and defending his side of his disagreement with Truman over the conduct of the Korean War. During his speech, he was interrupted by fifty ovations.[292] MacArthur ended the address saying:

      I am closing my 52 years of military service. When I joined the Army, even before the turn of the century, it was the fulfillment of all of my boyish hopes and dreams. The world has turned over many times since I took the oath on the plain at West Point, and the hopes and dreams have long since vanished, but I still remember the refrain of one of the most popular barrack ballads of that day which proclaimed most proudly that "old soldiers never die; they just fade away."

      And like the old soldier of that ballad, I now close my military career and just fade away, an old soldier who tried to do his duty as God gave him the light to see that duty.

      Good Bye.[293]

    • MRW, notice at Politico :

      Many Republicans and Democrats wary of the U.S.-Iran talks have suggested Congress pass a new round of sanctions. Additional sanctions have bipartisan support, but Obama said in his State of the Union speech Tuesday night that he would veto such measures at this time.

      Many Republicans and Democrats wary of the new U.S. sanctions against Iran and do not want Congress to pass a new round of sanctions. Additional sanctions have bipartisan support in congress, but many americans support what Obama said in his State of the Union speech Tuesday night, that he would veto such measures at this time.

  • Living in Israel isn't the solution to antisemitism
    • well, i'm not charlie so it would be hypocritical of me to do that nor am i advocating anyone do it. i just find it the height of obnoxiousness to be lauding the restraint of jews or others re anti semitism/satire when everyone and their brother knows there's very little out there directed at jews, slim to none unless he can come up with something sardonic (he can't) coming anywhere near the gruesome images i've seen portraying muslims or mohammed. and everyone knows how violent the violent zios can be and the sort of retributions people could expect from their militant or hasbara wing (who are provided cover it seems, legally and otherwise, and the state takes retributions for them).

      recently i was looking at the mainstream comics chastising the catholic church in the middle of their being busted for the pedophilia hayday, heck the stories of pedophilia in the jewish community never even make it out of the local papers much less national headlines or syndicated comics. it's a total double standard and the reason for that is because of all the constant victimhood/anti semitism whining we've all become so accustomed to. there's simply NOTHING we're hearing or seeing attacking judaism or jews that compares with what the islamophobes shovel out day in an day out. sure, others are attacked by racists, but not like this sexualized assault on the muslim community. it should be called out for what it is. and the sadistic sexualized nature of the torture imposed on enemies of zionists (including US zionists) is disgusting.

    • mayhem, you claimed Loewenstein drew "false moral equivalence between anti-semitism and Islamophobia." you claimed "Cartoons of Mohammed don’t directly stir up Islamophobia as they generally tend to be humorous, satirical representations rather than inciteful, hateful portrayals of Jews".

      but we all know by now someone got fired from that magazine for merely drawing a cartoon referencing the son of a politician marrying a rich jewish heiress and eluding it was for profit (or something like that). so while you may be "dismayed when I see anti-semitic depictions" i'm curious what "inciteful, hateful portrayals of Jews" possibly might compare to moses bent over on his knees with his ass pushed up, balls hanging down and a cameraman with a lens stuck up his ass? because i have not seen anything like this at all.

      stating mohammed bashing cartoons "generally tend to be humorous, satirical representations" completely avoids the fact that many are totally sexually degrading inciteful, hateful portrayals of muslims. everyone knows this. the iof soldiers even wear t-shirts about murdering pregnant women for heavens sakes. if these were isis with pregnant jewish women on their t shirts it would be on the front age of newspapers everywhere.

      so please do not pretend there's "false moral equivalence between anti-semitism and Islamophobia" implying that some how it is worse for jews when in fact jews are legally protected against slander in france in a way muslims are not, and socially protected in the US the way muslims are not. there are not laws protecting muslims in france like there are for jews or the holocaust. that is partly because european governments and the US are complicit in the slaughter muslims. they have certainly killed more than isis has.

      so if you care to discuss and compare muslim rage vs jewish rage, where are those degrading inciting comparable sexualized cartoons? what about rabbis bending over screwing jewish children? that would be apropos under the circumstances, no? do you think the jdl would seek retribution for that? do you think there'd be some rage in the msm or would everyone be massing in support of these anti semitic cartoons?

      as greg greewald pointed out ..no western press would print them. link to firstlook.org

      But there are all kinds of pernicious taboos in the west that result in self-censorship or compelled suppression of political ideas, from prosecution and imprisonment to career destruction: why is violence by Muslims the most menacing one? (I’m not here talking about the question of whether media outlets should publish the cartoons because they’re newsworthy; my focus is on the demand they be published positively, with approval, as “solidarity”).

      When we originally discussed publishing this article to make these points, our intention was to commission two or three cartoonists to create cartoons that mock Judaism and malign sacred figures to Jews the way Charlie Hebdo did to Muslims. But that idea was thwarted by the fact that no mainstream western cartoonist would dare put their name on an anti-Jewish cartoon, even if done for satire purposes, because doing so would instantly and permanently destroy their career, at least. Anti-Islam and anti-Muslim commentary (and cartoons) are a dime a dozen in western media outlets; the taboo that is at least as strong, if not more so, are anti-Jewish images and words. Why aren’t Douthat, Chait, Yglesias and their like-minded free speech crusaders calling for publication of anti-Semitic material in solidarity, or as a means of standing up to this repression?

      the only false moral equivalence going on here is pretending there's any kind of equivalence in the seeming acceptable prejudice against muslims in our society, and its propagated and funded by a mammoth well oiled machine that plays right into the hands of nefarious foreign policy goals of controlling the ME and controlling the resources and assets. it's gross, a war machine.

    • I wasn’t aware of that. Then should Hollywood do a sequel to “The Interview” where Rogen and Franco assassinate Netanyahu?

      your comeback is outdated -- so last year. everybody already thought of that immediately - and not just the blogs either.

      link to washingtonpost.com

    • the most admirable nation in the Middle East

      link to haaretz.com

      BBC poll: Israel among world's least popular nations

      The annual BBC World Service poll finds ...only countries less popular than Israel are North Korea, Pakistan and Iran.

      its existence would seem to be a historical necessity. No?

      no.

    • ”We rejected freedom yesterday, we rejected freedom today and we reject your freedom tomorrow,”

      Cartoons of Mohammed don’t directly stir up Islamophobia as they generally tend to be humorous, satirical representations rather than inciteful, hateful portrayals of Jews that can inject more venom into the fangs of anti-semites and consequently lead to more hate crimes.

      ok, thought experiment. if there was a cartoon republished all over the internet (as well as a popular magazine champion free speech) of moses bent over on his knees with his ass pushed up, balls hanging down and a cameraman with a lens stuck up his ass, would you republish it if someone dared you to as a reaffirmation of free speech? 'Cartoons of Moses don’t directly stir up anti semitism as they generally tend to be humorous, satirical representations' or would you call it an example of "inciteful, hateful portrayals of Jews that can inject more venom into the fangs of anti-semites and consequently lead to more hate crimes"

      or what if it was a cartoon or the pedophile George Finklestein subject of the 380 million dollar lawsuit filed by 34 former students against the Yeshiva University High School for Boys alleging that they had been physically and sexually abused by a teacher there during the 1970s... or Rabbi Norman Lamm, who provided cover for him?

      (local news only of course) link to nydailynews.com

      Nineteen former students at Yeshiva University High School have filed a bombshell $380 million lawsuit against the prestigious Jewish institution claiming horrific acts of sexual abuse that went unchecked for two decades at the Manhattan school.

      "Yeshiva University High School held itself out as an exemplary Jewish secondary school when in fact it was allowing known sexual predators to roam the school at will seeking other victims," said attorney Kevin Mulhearn, who filed the suit on behalf of the 19 plaintiffs. "Childhood sexual abuse in the Orthodox Jewish community can no longer be condoned and excused.”

      One victim claims administrators ignored his protests when he told them a Judaic studies teacher sodomized him with a toothbrush. Other victims — the children of Holocaust survivors — say a former principal persuaded them not to tell their parents after he sexually assaulted them because their mothers and fathers had already suffered through so much.

      do you think this trial would have gotten more attention if the sexual predator has been a muslim? how about a comic book about the scandal? would you support it? do you think the JDL would stoop so low as to vandalize the publication, make death threats?

      instead of the holocaust, what if the comparison was poking fun at something as ubiquitous to major jewish orgs ( link to jpost.com ), providing cover and protection of child predators? would you laugh? appreciate the humor?

      just curious!

  • Diaspora Jews are not in 'exile,' they are at home
    • This is not something that is deemed controversial for Greek-Australians, Maltese-Australians, or Irish-Australians, many of whom hold dual citizenship with Australian and those countries.

      this is a false equivalent. one cannot replace the sentiments of an immigrant family w/an emotional fabrication/longing for a homeland from thousands of years ago. we might as well all be sentimental about our african homeland since it was the continent of man's origin. or native americans sentimental about asia before crossing the bering strait? this sentiment was manufactured to lure support for a jewish state and required (still requires) decades of propaganda and brainwashing.

  • Palestine, an Islamic issue?
    • the video i saw there was an assault.

    • neil, do you know who sponsored this pew poll on sharia law? also, did you notice in the 2nd paragraph:

      Generally, supporters of sharia are most comfortable with its application in cases of family or property disputes...

    • one would hardly speculate reading the overview of this book on wiki that it was the same book morris is reviewing.

      link to en.wikipedia.org

      In this book, Hillel Cohen, a scholar at the Harry S. Truman Institute for the Advancement of Peace at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem documents the thousands of Arabs, ranging from wealthy absentee landlords to fellahin smallholders, who sold land to Zionist organizations. He shows that everyone understood that control of land was a necessary precondition to fulfillment of national goals, both Jewish and Arab. Cohen explains the varied motives of sellers: Some wanted money, some sold land or acted as intelligence agents for the Zionists even while publicly denouncing land sales, but there were also non-monetary motivations. Some thought that cooperating with the Zionists would improve the life of their clans and villages. Others thought that it was impossible to defeat the Zionists and, therefore, wiser to cooperate with them. Others were committed nationalists who believed that staying on the land was paramount, and that working for and cooperating with the Zionists was the strategy that would enable them to stay on the land. Others were driven to collaborate with the Zionists or with the British out of their intense hatred for Hajj Amin al-Husayni.[2]

      Cohen sees the Arabs of Mandatory Palestine as split between two positions. There were those who agreed with al-Husayni that all of Palestine must remain Arab and the Zionists must be fought, and there were those who argued that the Zionists were too powerful to be defeated and that, therefore, the path of wisdom lay in some sort of co-existence.[2]

      According to Cohen, the Husayni clan tried to rid itself of opposition beginning in the 1920s. In 1929 Sheikh Musa Hadeib was murdered near the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem. In the 1929 Palestine riots Husayni spread the falsehood that the Jews intended to tear down the Al Aqsa mosque and Dome of the Rock shrine on the Temple Mount. Over the course of the next decade, Husayni had a thousand Arabs murdered, 500 in 1938 alone. In 1939, the Husaynis were paying 100 Palestine pounds to assassins who murdered important "traitors", 25 pounds for petty "traitors", and 10 pounds for murdering a Jew.[2]

      Husyani’s methods drove many Arabs to side with and even to fight alongside the Zionists.[2] Perhaps the most shocking allegation in the book is that al-Husayni often put his own position in Palestinian politics above the interests of the Palestinian nation, most crucially so in 1939. The result was that Husayni rejected the British White Paper of 1939, reneging on the promise of a Jewish homeland made in the Balfour Declaration, and effectively promised the Palestinian Arabs majority rule and independence within a decade. According to Cohen, Husayni rejected the offer because Britain did not guarantee his position as ruler of the Palestinian Arab state it proposed to create.[2]

      however, at the end they do mention morris's review.

  • 80+ Cartoonists And Comics Workers Tell Comics Industry: 'No Business As Usual With Israel'
    • hi sycamores, that was my second article about saban'neh. my first "Israel imprisons Palestinian cartoonist Mohammad Saba’aneh without charge, sparks international demands for his release" is here: link to mondoweiss.net

      all 5 mondoweiss articles on saba'aneh, including the one i wrote last week, can be accessed here: link to mondoweiss.net

      btw, mint press reported he was arrested and sentenced in apr 2013, however, he was arrested at the Allenby Bridge checkpoint and imprisoned Saturday Feb. 16 2013. and the Allenby Bridge checkpoint is not in israel, it's between the west bank and jordan.

  • Fifth child dies from exposure to freezing temperatures in war-torn Gaza
    • maybe they have some need to prove themselves to their comrades. whatever it is, it is so sick it's hard to fathom how anyone could kill a defenseless old woman like this. maybe she spoke a word of hebrew. remember the soldiers who were killing all the hebrew speakers? i'm so glad my son never had one iota of an inkling to join the military. i don't think he's even been in a fist fight.

      i knew a guy once, an israeli married to an american woman. unfortunately he was an angry man. his wife said he had horrible dreams about lebanon (80's like your bro). he told me once that his older brother was a special forces, undercover (or perhaps it was mossad i can't recall). they were mizrahi/iraqi jews and i guess his brother could perfectly impersonate a palestinian. he said his brother would befriend palestinians, go camping with them .. and then kill them. i don't know what year this took place (maybe the 70's). it really sounded gross, how he could say that and think it was normal. i think he thought it was normal. this was many years ago. he went back to israel, they divorced after 20 years of marriage.

    • omg, here's the photo of her after execution, same clothing, blood scattered on her face.

    • and to think how wrong you were just, claiming "There really aren’t any words left…"! that was before jack came along and blew the lid off. what kind of person even thinks like that after hearing little babies are freezing to death? what's next?

      'well, technically it's 2°F higher than water freezing [32°F] and humans are only a little over 2/3 water'

      ??? just when we think we've hit new pit-levels in hasbara they throw us another lowball. seriously, you can't make this stuff up.

    • hasn’t been a single night that’s come near ‘freezing’... Never. Not once.

      jack, the weather was "34 °F (Jan 10, 4:50 AM)" in gaza. link to timeanddate.com

      with high winds that can feel a lot colder. Hypothermia can set in, (iow, one can "freeze to death"), when the body temp reaches below a certain point, and that point is not the same as the weather outside. last night it was 43°F in gaza. where are you on the coast?

      also, with an average humidity of 74%, yesterday was a low: "29% (Jan 22, 12:20 PM)"

      anyway, the article says "one died on 9 Jan, two on 10 Jan, and one on 13 Jan"

      according to the link (it's interactive) 9 Jan 11:50 PM "37 °F", 10 Jan 34 °F , 13 Jan 41 °F.

  • Gaza war blowback? Palestinian stabs 13 on Tel Aviv bus.
    • maybe because of the choice of the prison guard who shot him. not everyone in israel is a cold blooded killer. perhaps the shooter did not feel threatened under the circumstances, choosing not to kill someone is natural for most people.

  • The ‘hasbara’ tweeps who brought down Jim Clancy, and their ties to Israel and the Israel lobby
    • cool how you've juxtaposed the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs w/viagra. ;) that's quite a mental exercise.

      Whta was the purpose of your observation?

      what's the purpose of yours?

      If anti-Semites leave comments here, are your anti-Semitic?

      generally they don't make it thru moderation. but if we ran an advertisement that was anti semitic and profited from it then yes, i think one could draw that conclusion.

    • I guess Zionists really do rule the world.

      not sure about the whole world, but CNN, you bet.

    • given the opportunity, most likely. what other reason would they prefer to have AQ on their border. religious extremists have always provided israel with context to be more oppressive. in fact, if they didn't exist israel would probably invent them.

      israel is always more comfortable w/the victimized hasbara wrt their foreign policy or relations with palestine. they only want to be the oppressor, they want to be perceived as the oppressed as they expand. this is why, when they attack, they claim it is a pre emptive strike, in defense. always in defence, as far as i know, israel always claims to be reacting, never the cause of aggression. this was how they captured the golan heights last time, they claimed they were victims of aggression when in fact they instigated hostilities with the intent to steal the land. there is nothing in the history of zionism that would lead anyone to believe they have changed. it's merely matter of time, that is why it's so important to definitively stop them once and for all.

    • the hasbrats didn't like him saying they were pr hacks

      “Here’s the rub: @JewsMakingNews @elderofziyon are accounts with about 50 followers…who are also part of a PR campaign that is anti-Muslim,” and “These accounts are part of a campaign to do PR for #Israel @JewsMakingNews @elderofziyon Nothing illegal – but PR not HR : Human Rights.

      everybody knows that anyway. they probably just don't like it blathered freely on the internet by CNN reps. like we're supposed to believe they are not hacks and care about HR. we get it.

      btw, when pr hacks, in bragging about their scalps, describe clancy as having an "epic and bizarre meltdown" (keep in mind these are the same hacks who were praising glick for what any normal person would describe as a meltdown) when he did no suck thing, are trying to disguise how powerful their little ethnic cadre is within the rich and powerful msm. any normal institution this would not be grounds for firing and obviously clancy didn't tweet anything that outrageous. (i mean nothing compared to "the interview-sony" fiasco, and no heads got chopped off there.) that is because the standard of completely different if you support israel and slaughtering little children in gaza, vs team palestine.

    • he wasn’t dismissed – he fell on his own sword.

      link to en.wiktionary.org

      To resign from a job or other position of responsibility, especially when pressured to do so.  

      it can amount to the same thing as getting fired. unless you've never heard of orgs asking people to resign. it probably had to do w/the deal offered. resign/severance pay, go quietly vs get fired.

    • just and C&D, we got the report via an israeli friend in europe who sent it out on several bds movement listserves.

    • just, phil linked directly to the corporate europe observatory report (pdf> link to corporateeurope.org ), the same source cited by link to sputniknews.com which VT copy-pasted/republished.(i think, that's who they credit anyway)

    • when we were commenting about this on another thread recently i mentioned israel's primary goal in the region was expansion of it's territorial control. now i read this: link to haaretz.com

      Nonetheless, such action expands the extent of Israel’s involvement in the war in Syria, and turns Israel into an additional important element in the constellation of strategic considerations with respect to Iran, Hezbollah and Syria. And this is particularly true when the target that was attacked was not a Hezbollah arms convoy or depot – indeed, such acts have long since gained international legitimacy – but rather a command group responsible for directing a military front.

      And here Israel is drawing another clear red line, demonstrating that as long as the rebel groups control a portion of the Syrian Golan, and even if they are affiliated with Al-Qaida – Israel will not view that as a threat per se. Still, the entry of Hezbollah forces and Iranian fighters there would be considered a strategic turning point that would likely be met by violent Israeli resistance.

      From Iran’s standpoint, such a situation threatens the "monopoly" it has in Syria, because such an Israeli approach would rope President Assad into the problem as well, since his desire to reassert control in his part of the Golan Heights with the help of Hezbollah forces and Iran would be halted by Israel. At the moment, it would leave control in the hands of the rebels, who, even without coordination with Israel, will view the Jewish state as a means of protection against Assad’s forces.

      israel wants to annex more land. that is what they get out of this. and once again they uses religious extremists to do their bidding while promoting the hasbara to the outside world they are "surrounded by extremists" when in fact they are protecting them for their own self interests.

      israel doesn't want stability in the region, it thrives off the opposite.

    • crone, i have been following this very carefully but i don't cover lebanon anymore here. short story but not worth telling. btw, some israel source just tried claiming they never intended to target an iranian general in the attack! yeah right.

      link to news.yahoo.com

      "We did not expect the outcome in terms of the stature of those killed - certainly not the Iranian general," the source said. "We thought we were hitting an enemy field unit that was on its way to carry out an attack on us at the frontier fence.

      yeah right, another pre emptive strike 'they were on their way to attack us!!!' are israelis really this gullible?

  • Virulent, violent verbal tactics reveal Dershowitz as a bully, says fellow Israel advocate
    • why ask mooser? this is what Torossian said:

      "Alan Dershowitz, self-proclaimed defender of Jews, is being told that his Jewish credentials do not entitle him to a defense for an alleged crime that has zero to do with Jewishness or Israel. I was and am right about that, unless it is proven that these allegations were meant to discredit him and are false."

      other than that, last i heard they get one a free ride to citizenship in the holy land, even over and above indigenous folks. so that's pretty outrageous.

    • jack, I know that Bibi’s administration sat down with the Pals and tried to make a lasting peace deal.

      a lasting peace where palestinians gave up jerusalem? how generous! NOT!

      granted i have not opened your first link but the second is completely incomprehensible. you can't build " final status negotiations." on something that doesn't exist. there was no "Israeli acceptance of the 1967 borders" which was made clear with the release of the palestine papers. also made clear when israel refused to put forth a proposal for borders at the request of the quarter in 2011 and again in 2014.

      Molho and his counterpart were busy reconstructing their understanding from 2010, and transforming it into an outline of the terms for serious final status negotiations. Building from the Israeli acceptance of the 1967 borders (with land swaps) and Palestinian flexibility on the "nation state of the Jewish people" (with equal rights for Arab citizens) demmand, additional components were added.

      ....

      Netanyahu was willing to work with the fruits of the secret channel (although he insisted on airing his reservations, and the negotiations his advisers held with Indyk over the exact wording were endless). But Abbas completely rejected what had already, supposedly, been accepted by his own negotiator. He wasn't willing to show any flexibility on the Jewish state issue, and the idea of excluding any clear reference to a Palestinian capital in Jerusalem seemed like political suicide.

      israel refused to even put forward a framework for -BORDERS- and wanted to push it down the road after another 9 months of negotiations for "final status issues". that is why, along with israel's refusal to release the prisoners, as per the previous agreement, Abbas would not comply. even kerry stated it was the continued settlement expansion and as i stated earlier palestinians agreed to turn over almost all of jerusalem before and israel would not comply (palestine papers). excluding any clear reference to a Palestinian capital in Jerusalem is not just political suicide, it's as unacceptable as israelis excluding any clear reference to a Jewish capital in Jerusalem. not going to happen.

  • Pro-Israel parliamentary group in Europe says Israelis suffered 'worst' of Gaza conflict
    • it appears that temporarily there is something helpful for Israel in what the Jihadists do.

      wonders never cease.

      in reality the Jihadists are a huge headache for everybody, Israel included.

      but it's worth it now isn't it ivri, or else they wouldn't do it. what's a headache if it means securing the motherland?

      look on the upside, with Jihadists there right on the border it makes the job of the pr hacks so much easier. the little oasis on the side of the volcano. the reality i'm facing ivri, is that all israel ever changes is the pr, not the agenda. headache or no headache "it appears that ..there is something helpful for Israel in what the Jihadists do."

    • ivri, perhaps you are unaware israel is facilitating/supporting jihadists /al nusra etc in syria and just attacked forces combatting that threat. there's only so much hasbara one can stomach when lobby henchmen are advocating the fanatics take over syria. give it a rest.

    • It is widely recognized now that Israel was just unlucky enough to be the first to encounter a global issue of our times, simply because of its physically proximity

      don't get ahead of yourself. while this hasbara theme has been around for a long long time, the only so called 'recognition' is that israel would love everyone to agree and internalize. what's widely recognized is the talking pt; 'tiny island in a sea of fanatics' or 'tiny israel on edge of volcano' etc.

      but there is wide recognition that israel, along with the US, has been inciting and instigating instability in the ME for a long long time and that this serves israel's expansion. the excuse israel needs to expand and control occupied palestine for its so called security. people are not stupid ivri, it will never be "widely recognized" the colonial oppressor is "just unlucky".

  • Update: On MLK Day, lots of folks are talking Palestine
    • 1) Does the BDS plan end Israeli’s national existence?
      2) Does Annie think ending Israel’s national existence is the right policy?

      Your claiming because (2) is true that (1) isn’t true.

      this is fruitcake logic.

      BDS doesn’t advocate genocide they advocate the positions that historically become the motivation for genocide. To use your words, it is time you own that. I’m perfectly happy to say that Israel has created a situation where getting justice for the Palestinians likely results in genocide. I have no problem owning it.

      you're sick. good bye.

    • The annexation of Jerusalem was July 30, 1980. King didn’t do anything after that or for many years before that.

      king's statement was in 67. he was assassinated apr.'68, so saying he didn't do anything for many years before or after 1980 is an understatement.

      What you mean is the conquest of Jerusalem.

      yes, pardon my faux pas, or martin's you could say. those were his words, representing his motivation for not going, not mine: "Most of it [the pilgrimage] would be Jerusalem and they [the Israelis] have annexed Jerusalem and any way you say it they don’t plan to give it up "

      The conversation takes place with Stanley Levison.

      no, your own link confirms it was "a conference call of King and his advisers, on July 24, 1967". it was picked up, allegedly from the FBI tapping of levison's phone but it was with several people.

      Your version of the quote completely misrepresents what he was saying by dropping the political context.

      it's directly from the version quoted from the FBI conference call as recorded in numerous places as well as the source link: link to jewishvirtuallibrary.org and i quoted more of it below here - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

      how anyone could claim the annexation of jerusalem (his words) as dropping the political context is beyond me. granted, i didn't mention "the Arab world, and of course Africa and Asia for that matter" but so what. i would love to see the entire conversation. i will concede it is open for interpretation, but when he talks about following his "instincts" i think he is very much referencing "and they [the Israelis] have annexed Jerusalem and any way you say it they don’t plan to give it up". it's wrong. "would interpret this as endorsing everything that Israel has done, and I do have questions of doubt", meaning he does doubt [the morals or rightness] of israel's actions. his instincts are telling him he would be crossing the lines by going, that he would come out scathed. he made a judgement call, and it was the right one.

      p.s. your whole "end their national existence" is hypocritical hasbara. assigning to ones enemies ones own actions. everyone knows very well who (israel/zionism) is in the business of ending national existence. it's israelis who ethnically cleanse palestine, not the other way around. flipping that over to demonized the bds movement is a joke. it's israels own damn fault it's national existence depends on the ethnic cleansing of another. palestine doesn't have that problem. it's yours, own it.

    • The BDS movement goes out of its way to cause offense. Fundamentally it is trying to offend people (particularly Jews) and provoke a reaction which then creates attention to the cause.

      do you know the meaning of fundamentally? fundamentally the BDS movement goals are equality, and they do that not by "offending people (particularly Jews)" but by trafficking in truth and promoting boycotts, divestment and sanctions, a very typical tactic countries (including the US) use to change the behavior of other countries.

      your hasbara is absurd as saying the fundamental purpose of iran sanctions is to offend people and create attention.

      he would totally disagree with you on how to achieve it.

      oh really, that's odd because king himself, after years of lobbying cancelled his trip to israel after the annexation of jerusalem. it's a very fundamental sort of action that one takes when one doesn't agree, when ones instincts are to distance themselves from a person or a country's immoral actions. have you read the latest update in the article - his words during the conference call before canceling the trip to Israel?

      " if I go.... would interpret this as endorsing everything that Israel has done, and I do have questions of doubt...[the Israelis] have annexed Jerusalem...they don’t plan to give it up… ...my instincts – and when I follow my instincts so to speak I’m usually right – I just think that this would be a great mistake."

      and he knew enough to cancel his plans before there was a bds movement to pressure him. he did it on his own, in his own words: instinctually.

    • love that update:

      Most of it [the pilgrimage] would be Jerusalem and they [the Israelis] have annexed Jerusalem, and any way you say it they don’t plan to give it up… I frankly have to admit that my instincts – and when I follow my instincts so to speak I’m usually right – I just think that this would be a great mistake.

  • To counter radical Islam, we must confront our own hypocrisy
    • i don't know about "kind", just. but that was just too funny to pass up.

    • Anti American Muslim organizations are pushing for establishing Sharia law in the US

      LOL. uh oh, we've been invaded by the tin hat brigade.

  • Netanyahu and Europe’s far right find common ground after the Paris attacks
    • supporters of multiculturalism seem to encourage tribal attachment to “communities” and thus subvert civic attachment to the state and the community of citizens.

      that depends on what culture you come from. i think the UK uses a different definition of multiculturalism than we use in the US.

      link to en.wikipedia.org

      Two main different and seemingly inconsistent strategies have developed through different government policies and strategies. The first focuses on interaction and communication between different cultures. Interactions of cultures provide opportunities for the cultural differences to communicate and interact to create multiculturalism; this approach is also often known as interculturalism. The second centers on diversity and cultural uniqueness which can sometimes result in intercultural competition.[citation needed] Cultural isolation can protect the uniqueness of the local culture of a nation or area and also contribute to global cultural diversity.[5][6] A common aspect of many policies following the second approach is that they avoid presenting any specific ethnic, religious, or cultural community values as central.[7]

  • #JeSuisUnJuifBritannique
  • US calls ICC decision to investigate Gaza 'tragic irony'
  • Two Palestinians are killed near Gush Etzion settlement bloc in West Bank
    • actually now that i am reading the links i do recall an article about this someone posted a couple weeks ago. maybe it was you zofia...not more than a couple weeks ago tho. possibly business insider or something.

    • Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly objects to revealing any information about the “oil arbitration” case that has been conducted between Israel and Iran in European courts for more than 20 years, the details of which were exposed on Haaretz.com this weekend. Netanyahu signed a secrecy order in November 2013 banning the publication of information on the arbitration, because it “could possibly bring about harm to national security and foreign relations.”

      oh my, i missed this entirely.

    • on reflection i think you're probably correct wrt "giving air support to ISIS/Nusra". it's really provocative.

    • walid, i didn't mean it was retaliation for shawraba but i can see how it sounded like that. maybe it was a form of bragging. b at moa said the attack means israel surely have other assets unless it was damn luck. i have no idea. i hear about something like this and my mind is all over the map. for it to happen right after nasrallah's speech..the cajones.

    • another thing, imho, the over riding objective of israel is expanding it's territory. hezbollah's long range missiles in the bekka valley .. that is a big deal. i wish i knew more about this particular region, but geo-strategically any escalating conflict in this region israel's objective would be more territorial control, i would imagine. i'm not sure it is because of iran talks, it could be. i just can't dismiss the thought that hezbollah finding out what information shawraba discloses squeezes israel. plus, the fact shawraba is not mentioned at all in any of the news reports related, not even a mention at the end -nothing. when things happen simultaneously i notice. possibly shawraba, as an asset, was worth more to israel than taking certain these actions now, and once that asset was gone, they let loose.

      it's just an instinct. i think they are connected. especially since, according to israel, shawraba helped foil retributions against the assassination of Mughniyeh (albeit we don't know if that's true or just israel bragging).

      oh i just saw this link to nsnbc.me

      Probably not by chance, to replace the disbanded secret services unit 910 of Hezbollah, a new secret department was created, to be administered directly to the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps of Iran, and in this movement, according to Sheikh Naim Kassem, measures will be taken to preserve the purity of its ranks.

      i wonder if this attack was related to the 'new secret department'. ("senior Iranian officer, Abu-Ali Tabtabani")

    • Israel’s hit on Hizbullah has more to do with Israel giving air support to ISIS/Nusra fighting the Syrian Army on the Syrian side of Quneitra on the Golan.

      thanks walid. this is what i meant in my comment about the spy. wasn't he in charge of the bekka valley/border region? wasn't he allegedly wrapped up in hezbollah feeding false info to israel, which was how they caught him, and if that is the case then didn't israel just lose an important ally regarding their actions in that region... "Israel giving air support to ISIS/Nusra fighting"...

    • whiz, i think you make a salient point on the elections, but i also notice when israel, or netanyahu more specifically, get bad pr (and the press in israel has been very thorough regarding netanyahu's foibles in france) some huge thing happens that wipes out that coverage. election or no election, it happens time and again.

    • i wonder if it has anything to do with the hezbollah/israel spy on trial. israel claimed, or someone claimed , perhaps the nyt recently attributing arab press, that the spy helped foil retribution for killing Mughniyah. there was some recent hasbara about it. hmm. perhaps stuff is coming out in the trial that's bad news for israel. also, the claim israel targeting syria based on ..oh, i have to think this out.

      this is awful.

    • you are smart enough to understand what I meant.. and still, you are ignoring...

      don't play games with me. answer the question. a joke that they killed someone, or that they called him a young palestinian man. then i will respond further to your allegations.

    • a joke, that they killed someone, or that they called him a young palestinian man?

      This site promoting so many lies, such as the cartoonist who been sentenced for few months because “Israel didn’t like his works” or similar. What’s really bothers me is that people are reading this and thinks that’s actually the true.

      the hate site "palestinian media watch" had numerous links to cartoons of his for months prior to his arrest. they had nothing on him and held him for 2 months without even charging him. they never had anything on him. in this article, i link to palwatch with just one example:
      link to mondoweiss.net

      link to palwatch.org

      this was one of many. at the time that i wrote that article many links were available at pmw. here's one more link with 3 of his cartoons from 2011, 2012:

      link to palwatch.org

      i could have written an entire article on how pmw went after saba'aneh. in fact i thought about it at the time i was so pissed. and you have the nerve to tell me i "lied" by saying israel didn't like his work? ha! as if pmw works independently of the israeli gov. i don't think so. these are all saba'aneh:

      link to palwatch.org

      link to palwatch.org

      they are obsessed w/him

      link to palwatch.org

      link to palwatch.org

      there's more, should i go on, or do you get the message? i was being nice by barely mentioning it in passing. don't push me, there's enough here for an article for sure.

  • There is no pride for Jews in the state of Israel
    • btw, anyone can do a search of sean's comments ("mooser" here's the first 100 comments link to mondoweiss.net ) to follow the trajectory of his obsession conversations with mooser. the new rules policy thread from 10/2012 is instructive link to mondoweiss.net

      this one's funny, 2 years ago....

      seanmcbride January 3, 2013 at 2:40 pm
      Mooser,

      Sean, do you ever worry about getting, well, gosh, I hate to put it like this, but I can’t think of another word, about getting a bit tiresome?

      Is this yet another example of your analytical prowess?

      I think a full public discussion of the role of Judaism in Zionism and the role of the Jewish lobby in the Israel lobby would be enlightening, not tiresome, and might help effect a change in Israeli policies that currently, in the opinion of many people, are bad for Israelis, bad for Jews, bad for Americans and bad for the world.

      Clearly these are emotional and hot button topics for you. When you manage to get your emotions under control, perhaps we can pursue a civil and friendly discussion on them.

      lol, sound familiar?

      - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

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