Now that everyone except Dick Cheney agrees that Iraq has dissolved into civil war, I grabbed a couple of neocons’ (and neolibs’) books off my shelf last night to see how they treated the issue of Sunnis and Shi’ites killing one another, back when these brains were pushing for the U.S. to invade Iraq.
Here are Bill Kristol and Lawrence F. Kaplan (in The War Over Iraq, 2003):
“That things might be worse without [Saddam] is of course a possibility. But… it is difficult to imagine how… Nevertheless, Powell and others have argued that if the United States alienates central Iraq’s Sunnis, say by overthrowing Saddam, Iraq could be plunged into chaos… But predictions of ethnic turmoil in Iraq are even more questionable than they were in the case of Afghanistan… Saddam has little support among any ethnic group, Sunnis included, and the Iraqi opposition [!] is itself a multiethnic force… Iraq was a multiethnic, multisectarian state before Saddam came to power… [T]he executive director of the Iraq Foundation, Rend Rahim Francke, says, ‘we will not have a civil war in Iraq. This is contrary to Iraqi history, and Iraq has not had a history of communal conflict as there has been in the Balkans or in Afghanistan… Iraq will not fall apart and will not be dismembered…’”
Then there’s Kenneth Pollack, in The Threatening Storm (the liberals’ manifesto for invasion), arguing that urban Iraq is way past such differences:
The Shi’ite clergy could represent the small percentage of Shi’ites who favor an Islamic form of government, but they probably constitute less than 15 percent of the Shi’ite population… [T]ribal Iraqis living in tribal circumstances (Sunni or Shi’ah) now comprise a fraction of the population, probably less than 15 percent. On the other hand, 70 percent of the population is urban, and evne those city dwellers who retain some links to their tribes probably would not want to be represented by shaykhs who know nothing about life in Iraq’s cities….[T]he mostly secular urban lower and middle classes… constitute the bulk of Iraq’s population…”
Then there’s David Wurmser, Cheney’s brainy adviser, arguing (in Tyranny’s Ally, 1999, published by the visionary American Enterprise Institute with support by Irving Moskowitz, who backs expansion of settlements in the West Bank) that liberating the Shi’ites would bring a modern, liberalizing spirit to the whole region, notably Iran:
“With totalitarian [Sunni] Ba’athism’s subjugation of the Iraqi Shi’ite centers… not just Iraq but the entire Arab and Islamic worlds have lost one of their most important models of civil society. These independent [Shi'ite] institutions could have served much as Protestantism did in the Anglo-Saxon world, as a levee against the inundating absolutism of the state and as a foundation of liberalism and civil society…With no clerical freedom in Iraq… no Shi’ite entity has the freedom to challenge the narrow, controversial, and revolutionary form of Shi’ite politics practiced by Ayatollah Khomeini [in Iran]… Liberating the Shi’ite centers in Najaf and Karbala… could allow Iraqi Shi’ites to challenge and perhaps fatally derail the Iranian revolution. Comparably, in the Soviet Union, communism was undermined when the people’s courts, the Politburo, and the cult of personality were abolished; without these weapons, power can again be diffused, civil society reestablished…”
I can offer only one comment on all this. Genius!
Related posts:
- ‘Vanity Fair’: Wolfowitz rejected Sunni overtures in Iraq in ‘04 by calling them ‘Nazis’
- Neocons’ Identity Politics Have Helped to Fuel Explosive Sectarianism in the Middle East
- Neocons will be talking up the greatness of the Iraq war forever, huddled in caves
- Nadler Blames Iraq War on Ignorant, Arrogant, Theorizing Neocons
- Perle denies neocons pushed for Iraq war, or something like that






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I love bashing the neocons as much as the next guy but few people anticipated Sunni Shia civil war back in 2003. Robert Fisk of the Independent (no neocon he) said in 2004 that civil war in Iraq was impossible, mostly because of the huge amount of intermarriage between between the two sects. Indeed, if you talk to educated Iraqis of either sect, they will ussually tell you of a cousin or brother in law or even wife of the other sect.
It is the anarchy unleashed by the US invasion and incompetant occupation that has led us to this civil war that would indeed have been unthinkable five years ago.
The reason to despise the neocons, then, is not because of any specific prediction that went wrong but instead for their hubris. We had no reason to go to war in Iraq. They destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis out of optimism and lack of imagination. The tragedy is that they are not paying the price for their mistakes.
Read SWAP by Sam Moffie
agree with Tom, there was alot of ideology and little factual analysis on both sides. at the same time, I doubt Robert Fisk was one of the ones pushing an invasion of iraq then. the post 9/11 PNAC letter said straight up if you don't invade Iraq the terrorists win.
pre-Iraq cloudy crystal ball-ism is always fun though, particualrly when the people are still around. David Horowitz's "everything the left said about the war was wrong" is my personal favorite.
and on the other side are pat Buchanan and ron Paul and others who got it right.
Phil thinks that, in Iraq, trying to impose democratic unity on a fractured polity rife with old grievances and religious/ethnic divides (don't forget the Kurds) was clearly foolish. I agree. So why does Phil seriously consider Tony Judt's idea of a 1-state solution in Palestine/Israel? That would mean trying to impose unity on a polity that is even more fractured and rife with just as many old grievances and ethnic/religious divides.
Its actually kind of fascinating to watch Phil and the rest of the crew pin intercine Arab barbarism on the JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
I'm going to take this up at the next meeting of the elders and see if we pulled the strings on this one. I'll report back later
Noted Neo-Nazi, Rowan Berkeley, tells Mary Rizzo (peacepalestine.blogspot.com, that she is a mossad provocateur!
Those who can read German may find this copybook example of guilt-by-association, is-he-an-antisemite, by someone Shamir claims used to support him and is now a "traitor", typically fatuous:
http://www.freitag.de/2006/06/06…06/ 06061502.php
I mention this because it illustrates the pointlessness of the endless discussion about whether people are 'anti-Semites' or not.
The only effective opposition to zionism, america, or the general imperial charade, will come from now on from people who regard the accusation of 'anti-Semitism' with contempt.
Rowan Berkeley | 04.27.06 – 11:55 am | #
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