Steve Rosen, the former AIPAC operative who is charged with being a spy for Israel, is pressuring the Israel Policy Forum to get rid of its policy analyst MJ Rosenberg because Rosenberg is standing up for a good man, Chas Freeman, Obama's pick as National Intelligence head:
Isn't this amazing: the federal case against Steve Rosen is stuck in the mud, and meantime Rosen has a platform at the Middle East Forum, a well-financed neocon cave, to push for an investigation of Ambassador Freeman because he has been friendly with the Saudis!
Memo to Americans: the Saudis for nearly 30 years have been for a two-state solution along the '67 lines. There is today world consensus that such a plan is fair, or at least will give Palestinians the right of self-government after 7 decades of being promised same and never getting it. The only way to achieve this goal is for the Obama administration to "see pressure on Israel."
The questions that must be asked of all Freeman's Jewish assailants (for like Rosenberg and myself, they are Jewish; but represent official precincts of Jewish life) are: How do they see the borders of a Palestinian state, if they you see them at all? Will those borders give the Palestinians anything like real sovereignty in their homeland? Will their plan end this festering issue?
And, do not forget, as Steve Walt reminds us re two leaders of the Freeman maumauing: Rosen is under indictment for espionage, sharing government secrets with the Israelis, and Jeffrey Goldberg's idea of service was to cross the ocean and join the Israeli army. Are these people who should guide American foreign policy in that region?
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and do not forget that the President's current Chief of Staff, rahm emmanuel, ALSO crossed the ocean to serve with the isreali defense force during Gulf War I.
isn't that amazing ???
@ Go Live There If You Like It That Much – It's not true. He volunteered for a few weeks. Check your facts. When you make allegations like that you completely undermine Rosenberg, Weiss eat al.'s legitimate criticisms by turning this issue into a conspiracy ala the protocols of the elders of zion.
edisb,
GLTIYLISM didn't lie. Emmanuel served with the IDF as a civilian volunteer working on Israeli military vehicles during the Gulf War. You undermine your own point by comparing what was said (which was truthful) to the false Protocols. If something that was true is equivalent to the Protocols in your mind, then you are implying something about the Protocols that you really don't want to be implying.
In other words, if you claim that something which is known to be true is equivalent to a historical forgery, then the false implication you are leading to is that the "equivalent" forgery was also true. If you claim something is a horrible lie when it is true, why would you expect anyone trust you to know what is a lie and what is the truth? Its crying wolf, and its dangerous.
rahm emanuel joined the isreali army in 1991 as a civilian volunteer during the first Gulf War
and your point, edisb, would be ….. ????
the guy, supposedly an amerikan citizen, went overseas and served with a FOREIGN military.
if you are an amerikan citizen and you choose to serve overseas with a FOREIGN military, you should not be allowed back in the usa.
and what in the world am i undermining ? by pointing out the truth ? there you guys go again, trying to shout down the truth. jeebus.
Serving in a foreign military is only a problem if that military is at war with the US. More on how the old standards were reversed can be found here. Note that a situation with Israel forced the change.
I am sure the same American Jews who eagerly push the idea of collective guilt for the Holocaust on the goyim gladly feel guilt over their own people's support for Lenin and Stalin, and for the sad history of Israeli spying in the USA. Because if they didn't accept that collective guilt, wouldn't they all be total hypocrites?
"Isn't this amazing: the federal case against Steve Rosen is stuck in the mud"
The Prosecutors keep appealing the Judge's decisions and losing. Is that stuck in the mud?
Will it still be "amazing" when Rosen is acquitted.
"Aipac Case: New Ruling May Lead to Acquittal"
http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2009/02/aipac_case-2.html
hmmmmm….I wonder if Rosen found out MJ Rosenberg posts here from time to time. That's enough to destroy anyone's career!
Ouch Suzanne! Good one!
Jews do shovel the Holocaust down the goyim's throat. It's a political tool. An ideological bludgeon.
All the ZioPuke here cannot grasp their Jewish identity without relating everything to the Holocaust/antisemitism/Nazis/blah blah.
Deep psychological issues.
LD is quickly rising up the ranks of Phil's Phools. Which is great as most quickly realize Weiss is becoming a bad joke.
Just a few of Chris and his Stools here today, huh?
The AIPAC spy case rests on the issue of classification of documents. The conspiracy count is not based
on such classification, but apparently the government intends to meet the criteria for the classification in question. What's new about this case is that a jury will decide if the data passed to and by the defendants
substantively meets the classification. The defendants will argue the data was overclassified in the first place and the data passed orally was just SOP leakage, "Backdoor" politics in Washington DC. For the first time the USA's politically whimsical secrecy standards and its simultaneous backdoor leaks will be put on trial, before a jury, not politically appointed judge. This is a very important case. Not surprising, AIPAC is
the organization the two defendants worked for…. Next court date is in April.
AIPAC and Steven Rosen are guilty and a full Grand Jury will indeed find them guilty.
The question is in the idea of the classification used, and such material is not just idle chatter all the time in D.C.
If it indeed was the case, then perhaps we should charge the whole Hotel hostel center in Washington and politicians for Espionage.
The kind of grandiose over embellishment of lies instigated by these men, Steven Rosen and Keith Weismann; falls high above the statute for classified information. They were not alleging anything, they were actively passing information on US military installations near Iran that are part of the national defense.
Make the case before a open Grand Jury. Clearly the data they leaked to the press had to do with deliberate information on our national defense. Let all of us come and be a part of that case, armed with the 2nd amendment.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
And let the Jury also decide to drop all the charges against the Nevada Sovereign Movement group and their cohorts.
That's what the justice system is for, to settle issues just like this and prevent them from happening again by the Jury box and power of its people.
Great, except for one small thing. Neither AIPAC nor Steven Rosen are guilty and a full Grand Jury never finds anyone guilty, only that enough evidence exists, whether or not the evidence is manufactured, for a trial to go forward.
of course whether or not they will be found guilty as alleged is THE BIG Thing; Grad Jury finding will take the case to the next level of inquiry
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