The FY2009 omnibus appropriations bill hasn't gotten too much attention on this site. Until now. This is because Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) is attempting to tie passage of this essential bill to a congressional endorsement of anti-Palestinian bigotry.
The wonderful Americans for Peace Now Legislative Round-Up first alerted us to Sen. Kyl's activities. Kyl, the Senate minority Whip (aka the second most important Republican in the Senate), has proposed several amendments to
the bill aimed at advancing his neoconservative foreign policy agenda
at the risk of killing the entire $410 billion bill. One amendment, prohibiting
money from the bill to go to companies doing business with Iran's
energy sector, has already been voted down, but that hasn't stopped him.
Kyl has submitted several other amendments to be debated on Monday, the
most outrageous is S. Amdt. 629 in Section
7093 of H.R. 1105, that would ensure that: "None of
the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may
be available to resettle Palestinians from Gaza into the United
States."
What do Palestinian refugees have to do with the US omnibus bill? Absolutely nothing. But that isn't stopping Kyl's discriminatory and xenophobic attack. The Arab American Institute put it well:
As the second
ranking Republican in the Senate, it is shocking that Mr. Kyl would
continue to put his bigoted agenda ahead of the business of the
American people and the principles of his own party by making
anti-Palestinian bias a litmus test for the passage of the annual
appropriations bill.
What makes the Kyl amendment even more pathetic is that it appears to be based on a discredited Internet rumor. At the beginning of February the right-wing blogosphere was set off by a rumor that President Obama signed a "Presidential Determination Allowing Palestinians Loyal to Hamas to Resettle In US." The rumor gained traction and even received a rebuttal from the website snopes.com. Clearly Kyl didn't get the memo.
This isn't the first time Kyl has taken up the mantle of the fringe neocon right. Just last month he hosted a screening of the Islamophobic film Fitna along with its director Dutch MP Geert Wilders. This time however the rest of the Senate gets a vote. Let's hope they get back to dealing with issues that actually need to be addressed and repudiate such racism and baseless fear mongering.
> URGENT: Act Now Against Kyl's Anti-Palestinian Amendments in Senate
> From: ADC (adc@adc.org)
"….Act now to contact your representatives and let them know you do not support this disgraceful targeting of Palestinians(S. Amd. 629 and S. Amd. 631)…"
> To Send a Pre-Written E-Mail to Your Representatives – link to capwiz.com
It's slightly surprising to see Aaron Klein actually *refuting* the rumor at the WMD link you give:
link to wnd.com
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until you proceed on, and find that he is just using this refutation as a teaser, before propounding more of his fabricated atrocity propaganda against Hamas, as per usual.
The irony of this assessment, is that it is similar in goal to Lebanon not allowing long-term Palestinian residents of Lebanon to become Lebanese citizens, stated as in solidarity.
Well no Whitty, it is actually worse than the Lebanese position as it seeks to bar Gaza Palestinians from even entering the USA, not just from becoming citizens.
However Lebanon's position on Palestinians is indeed disgraceful, and in contrast to that of Jordan which gives them citizenship, or Syria which does not bar them from a range of employments. The reason is of course identical to Israel's reason for denying them the right to return – namely that to do so would contradict the desired communal basis of the political system – an demographically unassailable Jewish majority in the case of Israel, and a delicately engineered communal balance in the case of Lebanon.
Consistent defenders of human rights have no problem opposing both examples of communalist discrimination. Zionists however seem quite happy to uphold communalism in one case, and deplore it with crocodile tears in the other.
Yes, even the most benighted relativist can draw attention to a double standard when he or she sees one, and there is always something to be inferred from it, if one has the energy to perform the intellectual work involved in inferring it, which I don't always have.
That reminds me, you recall, we talked in previous threads about Kevin MacDonald and the pluses and minuses of 'socio-biology'. I claimed that it was based on an axiom that was in itself implausible, namely, a gene which, as I put it, 'strategises.' In other words, mere 'natural selection' in my view cannot perform the selections necessary for the relatively short-term political effects to which MacDonald wishes to draw our attention.
However, from the relativistic point of view, one does not have to decide the plausibility of the axiom. For instance, whether or not one personally approves of the social normalisation of homosexuality, it is obvious that, if two cultures compete over any time period longer than about two or three generations, and one of them normalises homosexuality while the other does not, then the one that normalises it will perish, and the one that does not will survive, simply because of the differential effect on their respective conditions of reproduction.
Kyl's approach does seem racist to me.
I was pointing out the irony of "solidarity".
But, Richard, you are thinking as a liberal individualist, as usual, whereas the way they see it is in terms of national survival – survival as nations. If the Palestinians are allowed to assimilate into other national cultures, then Palestine is dissolved as a nation. This is exactly the objection to assimilation advanced by anti-assimilationist Jews regarding diaspora Jews.
It is in fact possible to discuss this double standard with anti-assimilationist Jews, and they respond invariably by shifting the definitions, and saying that 'Palestinian' is not a distinct national identity in the first place, but just a subset of 'the Arab nation,' an argument which is clever in the sense that there are after all such people as 'pan-Arab nationalists,' who at first glance should agree with them. But, in the end, it's a shell game. One has to look at which populations, however defined, are really in danger of extinction and which are only claiming rhetorically to be in such danger, without genuinely being so.
At this point, the anti-assimilationist Jews will narrow their definition of 'Jewish identity', by making it exclusively religious, thus strengthening their claim that 'Jewish national identity' is indeed in perpetual danger of extinction and needs special protection not accorded to others.
All this is like chess: you can predict the 'discursive strategies' which will be used, and none of them constututes a complete discursive game plan by itself, so the decisive factor is who controls the media of communication within which the discussion takes place, because normally, those who control it can terminate it at whichever point appears to them to be advantageous in terms of the effect it leaves on the audience, which is unlikely to think the whole thing through for itself independently.
Just last month he hosted a screening of the Islamophobic film Fitna along with its director Dutch MP Geert Wilders.
Wilders is indicted for "hate speech/incitement" in the Netherlands, whatever you think about it:
Islam film Dutch MP to be charged, Wednesday, 21 January 2009
A Dutch court has ordered prosecutors to put a right-wing politician on trial for making anti-Islamic statements.
Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders made a controversial film last year equating Islam with violence and has likened the Koran to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf.
"In a democratic system, hate speech is considered so serious that it is in the general interest to… draw a clear line," the court in Amsterdam said.
Almost needless to say, Kyl is particularly close to the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC), Sheldon Adelson, etc.
Kyl loves Steven Emerson. See Subjugating American Muslims to Israel.
As far as I can tell, the RJC planned and paid for Wilders visit to the USA. (For more info see Collection: Wilders Visit to Boston.) Adelson and friends appear to be the main donors to his party in the Netherlands.
More info:
RJC and CUFI Incite Islamophobia
Almost an anti-Semitic Parody
Wendy Mann mentions that the Center for Islamic Pluralism (a Jewish Zionist Neocon front) has a good working relationship with Sen. Kyl.
Maybe the Senator can get his hands on the leaked EU report that accuses Israel of pursuing the illegal annexation of East Jerusalem.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1069206.html
After the Kyl-Lieberman Resolution (declaring the Islamic Revolutionary Guard a terrorist group), I'm a little surprised this guy is still pushing his race hatred, and not heading for the hills. One of those people who won't see the writing on the wall until they're buried under its rubble.
In light of the current state of things, it's interesting to note who voted against the Resolution: John Kerry, and Joe Biden (as well as 20 other senators).
As for the Gazan refugees, they are far more welcome in my country than treasonous racist imbeciles like Kyl.
If we allow Gazans in, I hope it's NOT indiscriminately. We don't want more shaheedi coming into this country. We were supposed to be more vigilant about that, and I hope Homeland security is not going to get lax on that!
this is not related to this discussion but i couldn't find another place on this site to post something like this so am putting it here.
i have a link to this site on my blog but i've noticed if i access my site through a verizon cell phone the link is disabled. i was able to reach the site from the phone in an around-about way but i believe Verizon is blocking the direct link.
here is the link as it appears on my blog:
Mondoweiss
it works in a browser but not from my verizon cell phone. the link just appears as black text. all other links around it do work from the cell phone.
just thought you might want to know.
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Better crawl under your bed and wait for the all-clear, Suzy. The Islamofascist terrorizers are coming for YOOOOOOOOOOS! :-) :-) Ha ha ha!
Don't listen to Suzanne. Listen to dalia mogahad at the gallup center for muslim studies. She gives you the character breakdown of muslims in the USA. Very impressive. The muslim american community here is
very diverse, has high socio-economic-and educational standards. She is on C-SPAN right now, taking your calls.
I wouldn't want to admit someone who would favor terrorist actions here. As far as supporting terrorist actions elsewhere, there's the usual moral consistency factor to consider. I don't like people who support the bombing and shelling of Palestinians in Gaza or people who support suicide attacks against Israeli teenagers, but if you let in one group it's a little hard to see how you forbid the other, at least on moral grounds. If a person isn't personally responsible for violent acts against civilians, I don't know that one should start prying into their (possibly unpleasant) political beliefs.
Anyway, the US has often allowed mass murderers in–there was that Haitian death squad leader (I forget his name) who was living in NYC and engaged in real estate fraud and we also had death squad leaders from places like El Salvador living in Florida, and so on. These murderers were on "our" side, from the US government's POV, so they had no problem letting them in so long as they didn't start killing people here.
Yes, Muslims in America are very diverse. Here's 19 of them:
The 11 September 2001 attacks were carried out by 19 hijackers, with planning and organization of the attacks involving numerous additional members of al-Qaeda. The first hijackers to arrive in the United States were Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who settled in the San Diego area in January 2000. They were followed by Mohamed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi, and Ziad Jarrah, who all arrived early in the summer of 2000, in order to undertake flight training in south Florida. The fourth pilot, Hani Hanjour, arrived in San Diego in December 2000. The other muscle hijackers, who were trained to help overpower and take over the aircraft, all arrived in the spring and early summer of 2001.
Don't listen to Suzanne. Listen to dalia mogahad at the gallup center for muslim studies. She gives you the character breakdown of muslims in the USA. Very impressive. The muslim american community here is very diverse, has high socio-economic-and educational standards. She is on C-SPAN right now, taking your calls.
Thanks Citizen! She's great.
And here is something for chris berel, just so he knows he's not forgotten–note Zaa Zaa Gabor and Larry King (he of the jeans and suspenders lately)–a MOT chris relishes, the resultslink to s.wsj.net
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
chris berel, wake up–we are tired of sending our GIs to aid Israel hegemony, equally tired of sending our tax dollars.
Don't give Berel the attention he so desperately needs. Suzanne too. You know why they are here. Talk over them, not to them. That's what they want.
I think I have worked out the solution to the problem I explained further up the thread. It's fairly abstract, but I think you'll all agree it's highly relevant. We have been stuck between the liberal individualist view of society (which as I pointed out, leads to the destruction of the family) and various so-called 'collectivist' solutions, which all seem to involve ideologies either communist or religious which people once having experienced the freedom of individualism find nightmarish.
I can actually see, I think, where the 'dialogue of civilisations' broke down, and it happened in the USA (specifically, on the East and West Coasts) as long ago as 1969, when I was 18, and already watching as sharply as I was able. What we failed to understand was that the needs of the family structure vary with relative – not absolute – affluence, in such a way that the more relatively affluent family can afford to relax its sexual mores in a way that the less affluent family cannot. This can be expressed in the form of a sort of social algebra, which I shall formalise on my own blog.
The practical consequence was that in 1969, with the explosion of radical feminism onto the US political Left, the class struggle got derailed, and splintered into opposed family-sustainable but culturally reactionary, versus non-family-sustainable but culturally 'progressive' factions. All the other disputes and divergences – and I mean all of them, including 'race', 'religion', and even the degeree of nationalism felt necessary, flow from this source. It is slightly oblique to traditional marxian class analysis, but not fundamentally so.
I gotta thank you guys, because your chaotic and undisciplined disputes have sort of knocked my thinking into shape here.
Amateurs think strategy. Professionals think logistics.
Heck of a job, Kylie.
i am jon kyl(pronounced kill)
bootlicker extraodinaire
my independence is nill
my moral drawer is bare
have understanding, please
i am a begging dog
my world controlled by blood sucking fleas
Glad to be of assistance Rowan.
I symphathize with the Palestinians, but there is no need on the part of Americans for them to come to the United States, anymore than there is a need for Israelis to come here. I don't see any reason to make this issue more of a problem in this country than it already is. America doesn't need more immigrants from anywhere, and that sentiment is very mainstream.
Also, why aid the Israelis in emptying Palestine? Why should the U.S. be Israel's safety-valve? I don't see how supporting Israel or Palestine is good for America. The U.S. needs to somehow start to distance itself from Palsetine and Israel, and support justice for Palestinians in their own land in the process.
I actually saw a Laotian and a Cambodian have a hammer fight on a job once because one was a Laotian and the other was a Cambodian. Rival Mexican and other Latin American gangs are already hashing out their differences on U.S. soil. Do we ever learn? America first doesn't just mean putting America's interests above those of Zionists.
Glad to be of assistance Rowan.
You're kind to humor Krazee like that. Misguided but kind. haha!
Glad to be of assistance Rowan. Posted by: Dan Kelly | March 07, 2009 at 11:04 AM
I'm gonna totally choose to not see even a wisp of irony in that, Dan, and thank you. My concept of "social algebra" seems to me rather reminiscent of the concept of "psycho-history" developed by Hari Seldon in Asimov's "Foundation" trilogy (it was a trilogy to begin with, until his publrs. persuaded him to add worthless pot-boiling further volumes).
"relatively affluent family can afford to relax its sexual mores in a way that the less affluent family cannot"
The richer the family is, the more it can absorb and entertain deviance from the norms. Duh.
Sen. Kyl has been a paid stooge for the Lobby for a very long time.
The richer the family is, the more it can absorb and entertain deviance from the norms. Duh. Posted by: comment | March 07, 2009 at 11:31 AM
– it may seem 'duh' if you leave it at the level of individual families, but I am talking about political interaction between whole cultures, whether internationally or infra-nationally, where they would be politely called 'ethnicities,' or less politely, 'races'.
Rowan, although I was being sarcastic, I nevertheless thoroughly enjoy your writing and points of view.
Why is Ziopuke even tolerated here? Why dont you get a clue and go elsewhere because you arent going to convert anyone here. We already know the truth, and maybe someday, you'll open your eyes and see what we already know.
And Suzanne…stfu. You're probably just a disgruntled ex-drug addict who sits on the computer all day and types idiotic responses until it's time to collect your government check and fritter it away on alcohol.
BTW those checks come off the backs of hard-working taxpayers, many of whom are Muslim. If I were you I'd stop in my tracks and think about that.
from the earth times via kei & yuri:
"Ankara – A US citizen caused delays to a Turkish Airlines (THY) flight between Istanbul and New York after complaining that there were "Arab-types" on board, Milliyet newspaper reported on Tuesday. In a news piece headlined, "Racism crisis on THY flight", Milliyet reported that police were called after US national Daniel Sussman Pincus started to shout complaints about "Arab-types" on board Monday's THY Istanbul-New York flight.
After escorting Pincus off the plane, all other passengers were forced off the flight to undergo security checks in accordance with international practice. The flight eventually took off after a delay of about two hours. Pincus was released by police and later caught a flight to London."
minds so diseased.
Rowan writes: the decisive factor is who controls the media of communication within which the discussion takes place, because normally, those who control it can terminate it at whichever point appears to them to be advantageous in terms of the effect it leaves on the audience, which is unlikely to think the whole thing through for itself independently.
Such a good point.
Write the word "shaheed" and a rabid suicide bomber shows up on Mondo. Who would have thought???? haha!
How can a suicide bomber post on a blog!?
Gosh Suzanne, even when you're trolling you don't make sense.
@Zainab
She's a repugnant coward. Like Berel and the rest of the ZioPuke here. They are a great representation of the chauvinism of Zionism. Clearly, these sort of people are so used to living in their bubble that they don't have any minimal level of civility to people with a different point of view.
Remember that these losers are only effective behind a computer. They thrive on that anonymity. It allows them to be as disgusting as they want to be.
Suzanne's one of those types that presumably got hit on the head by a piece debris from the Towers and she never recovered from that. There's quite a few of these trolls, after 9/11 their weltanschauung changed completely (just like the Jihadists wanted of course) and they go around calling their opponents 'cyber-jihadists' and other nonsense like that. For some reason these people, whether they're Jewish or not, tend to be strong Zionutzis too. Not quite sure how that works…
hit on the head by a piece debris from the Towers
brilliant image.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-eu-sweden-israel-protests,0,3524573.story
Is this what we want in the U.S.? Wouldn't it make sense to purge both sides? It isn't my fight, no matter how much people on both sides wish to make it so. Sweden had similar problems with pro and anti-Shah immigrants fighting in the streets of Stockholm in the 70s and 80s. Enough is enough! We can deal with the rest of the world without importing the populations.
Er…guys, Suzanne is SOG. It's he not she.
The 'fuck', 'asshole','anti-semite' hurling, the preoccupation with Phil's gentile wife ,porny type sexual referencs, the childish bravodo….he's toned it down a bit but it's him.
hit on the head by a piece debris from the Towers
The first time was an accident. Now she does it cuz it feels so good.
Gert–your remark about the Towers shows you for the nasty coldblooded jihadist whore you are.
I worked at the WTC for a few years, the fireman from our enginehouse ALL perished, my family is a mile away from ground zero, and I was down there 2 days after the bombs. So shove it up your fucking gnarly ass.
You hit a nerve, bitch. Normally I just laugh at you assholes. I want to see you and the other fake humanitarians gloat. Go ahead twat. Here's your chance.
Jim, all I am seeing there is the tripod logo, not the image you presumably intended.
I have another general theoretical question for you all: could the difference between the JHVH and EL cults be ultimately that JHVH is, esoterically at least, a god incarnate, a god-king? Whereas EL remains a truly transcendental, universal figure? This would explain why the Rasta concept of JAH, about which they are very insistent, as I know because I love their music and have a lot of it, "Almighty JAH is a living man," is as acceptable and welcome as it is. It would also explain why the actually existing Judaism of the West lends itself so readily to the aristocratic god-king esotericism I mentioned in connection with the freemasonic and chivalric cults that European royalty has traditionally sponsored, again as I explained earlier today on some earlier thread.
People keep saying Europe doesn't have an Islamist problem…but I guess masked rioters are just another day in Swedish paradise. la di da
now Phil's Phools are laughing about 9/11. Is anyone surprised?
Like I said, Phil has a self destructive streak as wide and deep as a moon crater….enuf said!
Correction: not bombs…airplane attacks. That stupid cow got me upset.
That stupid cow got me upset.
S. takes a break from a sweaty afternoon at the keyboard.
Nobody cares Suzanne…your virulent racism towards my people pretty much sizes up who you are as a person. Get pissed all you want, how do you think I feel when I hear you call my dead 6 year old and 14year old cousins "shaheedis" and say they arent allowed into America, my second nation. My people work hard and respect each other, and yes, while they fight for their homeland, so would you if ever faced with such repression. I'm sick of you saying "Get out of Israel", but then when they come here, you say "Get out of America", so…..where are they to go? The camps are full, lady, and your country put this burden upon my people. So normally we'd travel to the nation where we are allowed to flourish.
Take my family for instance. We were evicted from our tiny home in Tul Karm, went to Jordan, camps were full so we went to Lebanon, camps were filthy so we went to Egypt. No real opportunities there so we came in on my grandmother's visa who had been here since '49. Since then my family went on to establish a very prosperous wood-flooring business, and we made a nice living doing such.
Not all of us are shaheedis, and honestly, martyrdom isn't a bad thing when fighting oppression. Frankly if you ask anyone living in Dearborn what they did when first entering America, you'll find a large consensus that they got down to business when they came. Literally. Most small businesses in America are owned by Arabs, and thats no coincidence. We're hard working individuals whose only goal in life is same as yours—to live a normal, peaceful life with our families and leave a positive influence on the society which we lived.
Why don't you take those comments back to the Klan meeting from which they originated.
LD you speak words of wisdom. Never thought of it like that.
Truth? You are worried about anti-Palestinian wording calling it bigotry? Yet, the Palestinian Authority refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist? The PA executes any Arab that sells land to a Jew? Just say what you mean. Anti-Semitism is OKAY! I don't know Mr. Kyl but I do know that Anti-Semitic Terrorists should not be getting our dollars or our protection!