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You mustn't get too caught-up in all the US hoopla, Phil. What we're up against is Anglo-Jewish Fascism. Because it is easily distracted by genteel appearances, and because this is Jewish, a large part of the popular mind is willing to accept that this cannot be fascism, but must be anti-fascism, even when, as is the defining general characteristic of fascism that we might as well hang onto, it makes explicit policy of exterminating the natives of other continents like vermin.
Justin Raimondo has an interrogation of Goldberg at Anti-War.com:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/04/02/the-goldberg-syndrome/
Justin Raimondo's piece.
George Orwell of 1984 fame, was a Trotsky communist and member of the Anglo-Jewish establishment (Anglo meaning British to which the Jews were well married into). He worked for British intelligence. He also wrote reports on journalist categorizing them by two particular criteria. One was if they Jewish were they loyal to the tribe. Two was if they were anti-white. The anti-white could be used in conjunction with anti-colonialism, pro nationalism to over throw white rule and install a weak nationalist government that then could be controlled with loan and basically used to rape the country of their resources. The anti-white, pro national both could be used to break down any resistance to the push for Anglo-Jewish domination. I see the use of the word 'Fascist' as a diversion. This group is beyond an 'ism'. They have a totalitarian mindset and any ideology can be employed to further their power.
"I will never agree to our waiving all the clauses – I believe there are 48 of them – and going directly to the last clause, negotiations on a permanent settlement. No. These concessions do not achieve anything. We will adhere to it to the letter, exactly as written. Clauses one, two, three, four – dismantling terrorist organizations, establishing an effective government, making a profound constitutional change in the Palestinian Authority. We will proceed exactly according to the clauses. We are also obligated to implement what is required of us in each clause, but so is the other side. They must implement the
document in full."
Well said.
Pipes and Geert Wilders
David Shasha, Daniel Pipes, Obsession
Following his father's footsteps
Having identified 'Anglo' as British it is also a fact, as Phil has demonstrated, that Jews are also through marriage and talent will into the American elite.
Israel's behavior and individuals such as Bernie Madoff can be used to whip up antisemitism which just validates what the average Joe Jew has been taught to fear and therefore ensures his loyalty to the tribe or rather the Anglo-Jewish elite. Joe Jew is a pawn just as Joe six-pack is. This is one of the possible uses of this blog.
Laurie, Eric Blair was not a Trotskyite, he was a left anarchist. many have been misled by the complexity of his involvement in the Spanish Civil War, but the POUM was a marxist-anarchist grouping, in its actual practice, not a Trotskyite one. See this withing critique of it, from a communist point-of-view:
Well I beg to differ. And you will note that I said all 'isms' are used. To point to Fascism as the only evil is to ignore a boat load of history. You seems to have forgotten that anarchist and communists were bed fellows in the First International. Eric Author Blair loyalty was to the establishment. 1984's message was resistance is futile.
well, I suppose many would say you should take a politics degree course, but even that is pretty pointless in my view. I found I had to spend several decades reading all sorts of out-of-the-way material, some of it literally in the British Library Reading Rooms (just like Marx did), before I finally felt that things had started to make sense. And of course, I'm not infallible — I could still be completely deceived….
Laurie,your remarks on Orwell show absolute ignorance of the man. After his stint in the Burmmese Imperial Police he was a determined anti-imperialist.Your idea that he was involved in an 'Anglo-Jewish' conspiracy to rob newly independent countries of their resources is absolute and total bs. Furthermore, he never worked for British Intelligence. Also, he wasn't a Trotskyist though he sympathised with Trotskyist critique of the Soviet Union. He was for a while a member of the British Independent Labour Party but left it because of its pacifist streak. During the war he participated in a few BBC-broadcasts for India and was a member of the home guard.
His political stance was somewhat left of the Labour Party but he was an ardent supporter of democratic socialism as it is more or less embodied in European Labour Parties.
Why don't you read something of the man instead of coming up with these ridiculous views?
These are sufficiently infuriating for me to go on at greater length but it is midnight in this part of the world.
Is anyone else thinking what I'm thinking? Laurie meet Rowan, Rowan meet Laurie! Imagine the two of them, sitting there in their flat, unemployed, irrelevently ranting about Jews. Hated by their neighbours, ignored by their families, yet they would have each other!
Kind of off topic. But, I just put up a post on why Palestine is a conservative cause.
Oh, I'm sure you are not completely deceived Rowan.
Arie, please do go on and then copy down everything you say, after that go educate yourself and then we'll talk. Hint: Wikipedia isn't even close to getting started.
Watch Chas Freeman online at 18:33-19:00 GMT (Friday 03/April/2009), appearing on the weekly "Face to Face" show of PressTV (link to
In this exclusive interview with PressTV, Freeman casts doubt whether israel can continue to survive in the Middle East.
This is the link: mms://217.218.67.228/presstv
Just in case you missed the show, you can download it later on.
link to presstv.com
is where you can find prevously aired shows.
Wikipedia isn't even close to getting started.
But Stormfront et al, the extreme right and certain antisemitic strains of US liberalism, versus rational critique of US/Israel middle East policy, are her sources. Right wing conspiracy lore has the advantage for Laurie to be both entertaining and simplistic.
Besides, that wasn't Jim Haygood. Jim Haygood has never been obsessed with this subject:
Imagine the two of them, sitting there in their flat, unemployed, irrelevently ranting about Jews.
Which is a standard theme from a certain groupthink. I imagine Laurie would prefer to rant with Ed/Chris Moore. Rowan is not exactly "her cup of tea".
Arie, you are erring too far in the opposite direction, in my opinion: Blair, aka Orwell, was actually in charge of propaganda broadcasts on the BBC's Indian service for a while during the latter part of WW2, and you don't get that kind of responsibility unless you are, how can I put this, frequently invited to lunch by Intelligence officers at their London clubs.
@ Jim Haygood; you are correct in a way; Laurie and I are old sparring partners from the Xymphora blog, which I no longer visit, because its comments threads seem to have been taken over by anti-Semites of the most boring boiler-plate kind in the last few months, very possibly provocateurs, or stool-pigeons with the task of providing the authorities with pretexts to close such blogs down.
I have just stated my agreement with a major plank of the Synarchist thesis, by the way, though not the principal one: on one of these threads, I have said that what we are up against is an Anglo-Jewish conspiracy. You wait and see: they can take the wrecking balls to Wall Street, but the City of London, the fabled 'Square Mile', will stay just as much of a global finance hub as before.
The "great" Noam Chomsky?
Wow.
OK. not great. The so-so Noam Chomsky.
Orwell's main link with the British Intelligence Service was as a subject. For long years they kept a file on him because they labored under the suspicion that he was a communist until that idea became too ridiculous.
And so is the idea of Orwell sitting in a London club having tea (he liked it very black) with intelligence types.
During the war intellectuals who were unfit for military service (Orwell was – he suffered from tuberculosis and was moreover badly wounded in the Spanish Civil War) often tried to contribute to the war effort in a different way. Orwell did so through the BBC's Indian service. He was, after all, born in Bengal in an Anglo-Indian family and served later in Burma. There was some worry that more Indians could follow the lead of Subhas Chandra Bose and take the side of Nazi Germany. It is worth mentioning here that Bose worked at that time in Berlin for a Nazi special Bureau for India, led by Adam von Trott zu Solz, that made regular broadcasts to India in English as well as in a number of Indian languages.
Orwell quitted the BBC counterpart when, in 1943, he became literary editor of 'Tribune', a left wing journal, neither communist nor Trotskyite but linked to the maverick Labour leader Aneurin (Nye) Bevan.
I have read most of Orwell's work and some of the major biographies about him. I cannot recall that there is any hint, anywhere, that he worked for British intelligence. The bit about that 'Anglo Jewish' conspiracy he was allegedly involved in is of course too silly for words.
Laurie impressively hints that ultimately s/he will come up with his/her sources. S/he should do so.
You should read his diaries, and maybe learn to read between the lines. But really, this is a distraction.
I read his diaries !! Tell me what you read between the lines.
It's a distraction, and I am not interested in pursuing it any further, and anyway, I have already told you what I "read in between the lines." You seem like one of these people who wants to drag threads off on tangents.
Both a certain segment of England, and a certain segment of Weimar/Nazi Germany were for
a unity between the two. Animal Farm and 1984 were directed against red group think, though since those original publishing days, they have been directed against the right-wing version of
group think, rather than the leftist version. The principles of rebellion of both books remain intact
against either. That's why those fictional books are classical greats, along with novels such as Lord Of The Flies, or Conrad's Heart Of Darkness–or Moby Dick….
Who cannot claim they are the bug in Kafka's Metamorphism?
Obviously, the ones in power at the moment.
Phil's blog's whole reason to exist.
Rowan, this will not do. I didn't bring up this topic. Laurie did, smearing Orwell in the process. You commented on it. My comments came after that.
I merely asked you in my last post to back up your assertion about Orwell (entirely new to me) with some quotes or other.
Orwell happens to be one of my heroes – and I haven't got many.