Israeli and US flags flying at home in California

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Photo by John Shubert, of a gated community in Newport Beach, California

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  1. JES says:

    Gee Phil. How many American and Mexican flags do you think you'll see flying in California in two week?

  2. seethelight says:

    Priceless photo! Now, why would a member of the House of Representatives of the US Congress fly a foreign flag next to the American flag at her home? Let's see how long before the Israeli flag comes down. I can't wait to hear the explanation. I also can't wait to hear the explanation why the Israeli flag is flying. Harman is not an Israeli citizen, is she? Is she an honorary Israeli citizen, perhaps?

  3. Witness says:

    She's Jewish, the one thing no one wants to report.

  4. David F. says:

    JES, your point is well made. Speaking for myself, when I saw all the Mexican flags at the huge pro-amnesty rallies I immediately joined FAIR.

    seethelight, I don't think this photo has any context. How do you know where it is?

  5. Me says:

    So is this indeed Jane Jarmans house?

    @JES: Dual loyalty is okay if the person in question is some random citizen (like Mexicans in California). When it's am Member of Congress, a committee head no less, then there is a problem.

    Serve your own country first and foremost, that's what the tax payers pay you for.

  6. Scott says:

    I'm pretty sure Jane Harman isn't stupid enough to fly flags like that at her house. My guess it's typical AIPAC supporter, rich enough not to give a damn what people think.

  7. 5 dancing shlomos says:

    dual loyalty as someone(sobran?) said would be an improvement. they(non jews in politics) have one loyalty and that is to jewry. jewry, the jews, have one loyalty and that is to themselves. israel is part of jewry.

  8. 5 dancing shlomos says:

    have s/b has

  9. D. says:

    Shlomos, you're frothing again. Wipe your mouth.

  10. Mooser says:

    "they(non jews in politics) have one loyalty and that is to jewry. jewry, the jews, have one loyalty and that is to themselves"

    And this is the best we have done? That does it, my next bath is going to be in a baptismal font. I have hesitated until now, because I know how disappointed my wife will be when my foreskin doesn't grow back after baptism. I would hate to see her deepest religious assumptions smashed to flinders. I heard that poppies grow good in flinders, anyway.

  11. JES says:

    You, oh I'll be willing to bet that they'll be a whole lot of elected officials – from the local level all the way up to the congressional level – flying Mexican flags on Cinqo de Mayo!

  12. Me says:

    JES,

    ah. Didn't know there's a special day coming up. Well if the hypothetical Israeli flag in front of a lawmakers house only flyed during some special day, why not.

  13. 5 dancing shlomos says:

    eyes wide shut. mouths wide open. ears filled with wax and dirt. minds mushed by media.

  14. rykart says:

    The Israeli flag is no less offensive than the swastika. It has become a hate symbol. Small wonder the IDF goons are fond of desecrating arab homes and graves with the star of David, as their German counterparts once disgraced Jewish homes and graves with the swastika.

    Israel is a disease.

  15. JES says:

    Well You, just so happens that Yom Ha'atzmaut – the Israeli equivalent of Cinqo de Mayo – is a week from today, so nah, nah, nah, nah, nah…

    Besides, as has been pointed out, the location of the flags is not mentioned anywhere.

    Oh, and BTW, the past tense of fly is "flew" not "flyed" (which of course should be spelled "flied").

  16. Me says:

    I appreciate your spelling lesson :-)

  17. JES says:

    Small wonder the IDF goons are fond of desecrating arab homes and graves with the star of David, as their German counterparts once disgraced Jewish homes and graves with the swastika.

    Sure Rykart. You tell 'em, but I'd like to see a bit of graphic evidence. The only evidence I saw was a photo published by HRW that showed a Star of David on the wall of a Palestinian house. Only problem was that this was clearly recognizable as the logo of Maccabi Tel Aviv – the local sports team. I don't really see how this is "desecration" unless the the owners of the home were fans of an opposing team!

  18. rykart says:

    As everyone knows, JES, such grotesque acts of racism by your shithole country are commonplace, reported on frequently in Ha'aretz and elsewhere.

    A Star of David is scrawled in drying blood on the floor in damaged house that was bombed by Israeli military yesterday near a UN-run school building on Janaury 7, 2009 in Jabalia, northern Gaza. An Israeli attack killed at least 42 people who had sought shelter in the UN-run building after they fled their homes at the Jabalia refugee camp. The United Nations has denied Israeli army allegations that militants were inside the school compound. (Photo by Abid Katib/Getty Images)

    http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2009/01/07/updates-from-gaza/

    Now on this one, JES…you'll have to migrate down the page to get to the star of david graffiti. The good news is, you'll get to see a lot of dead and disfigured Arab children from the Gaza massacre. I know that will cheer you up.

    http://ingaza.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/next-time-it-will-hurt-more/

  19. Shafiq says:

    JES,

    You're evidence is here, here, here and here.

    What would happen if someone flew the Iranian flag outside his/her home?

  20. Shafiq says:

    http://iadiedee.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/gaza-israeli-graffiti2-560x.jpg

    http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/03/30/idf-gaza-momentos-of-hate/

    http://api.ning.com/files/wlyes0IMaYEvNrPvNmW9Grhec8gAruMQg5HhiC9nrvjiFqApn62IoaEE*0h9O3Ua1hiiS92V4PzvJNRzKbdiaTLTONNgNjjd/hebron_graffiti_5.jpg

    http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2009/01/29/welcome-to-your-friendly-bigoted-state/

  21. Ed says:

    Shafiq: "What would happen if someone flew the Iranian flag outside his/her home?"

    Some Zionist would probably come along and burn it down, and burn a Star of David on the lawn.

  22. JES says:

    An Israeli attack killed at least 42 people who had sought shelter in the UN-run building after they fled their homes at the Jabalia refugee camp.

    Just for the record, Rykart, the UN later retracted their version that the shells hit inside the UNRWA compound, and the IDF presented evidence that it was responding to fire outside the compound. (cf. the international rules of warfare covering combat in a populated area)

    The caption says:

    A Star of David is scrawled in drying blood on the floor in damaged house that was bombed by Israeli military yesterday near a UN-run school building on Janaury 7, 2009 in Jabalia, northern Gaza. An Israeli attack killed at least 42 people who had sought shelter in the UN-run building after they fled their homes at the Jabalia refugee camp.

    But the IDF never got to the UNRWA school, Rykart, and certainly not while the blood was drying. So it must have been someone else who scrawled the Star of David!

    As everyone knows, JES, such grotesque acts of racism by your shithole country are commonplace, reported on frequently in Ha'aretz and elsewhere.

    Yes, if I may, shithead, and they are commonplace and reported in your country and pretty much every country in the Western world. That's unfortunate. But it is not policy in Israel (nor in the United States), and is the product of individuals, not by the "shithole" country.

    And now, if you could provide some evidence of the desecration of graves?

    What would happen if someone flew the Iranian flag outside his/her home?

    Well, Shafiq, I don't really know. Maybe you should run one up the pole and find out.

  23. rykart says:

    "They are commonplace and reported in your country and pretty much every country in the Western world. "

    Baloney.

    And the IDF T-shirts with their racist abominations, approved by the IDF commanders…those are also "the product of individuals, not by the shithole" country." ??

    hmm??

    Cat got your tongue?

    Sure.

    I keep trying to come up with SOME reason why your Nazi pigsty shouldn't be burnt to the ground with napalm.

    I draw a blank.

  24. JES says:

    Sure, Rykart, and what about the imams calling Jews the sons of apes and pigs?

    We can keep on going back and forth like this, trading insults. I really don't see any point. You don't like my "Nazi pigsty"? Fine don't come here. You don't like supporting what you perceive as racist settlers? Fine, work to get your government's policy changed.

    Funny, but I don't feel half as threatened by you as you apparently do by me.

  25. rykart says:

    "Funny, but I don't feel half as threatened by you as you apparently do by me."

    Nothing strange about that, JES.

    You're a dangerous psychotic.

    You're quite right. I am afraid, not to mention utterly repulsed by racist, atrocity-denying Israelis like you. You people have absolutely zero regard for human life. You brutalize and massacre children without a second thought and rationalize it the way textbook serial killers do. It's chilling.

    Who wouldn't be afraid?

  26. rykart says:

    And you call yourselves JEWS.

    Pick a new term!!

    Stop disgracing the Jewish people. You have nothing to do with us. Nothing to do with our history.

    You're whole country is an anti-Semitic LIE.

  27. JES says:

    Rykart, who died and made you representative of the Jewish people? When have I brutalized and massacred children?

    Get professional help, Rykart. Get it now.

  28. Ed says:

    JES: "When have I brutalized and massacred children?"

    When has the average contemporary German? In fact, when did the average German even in Nazi Germany? None of that has prevented you Jewish Zionists from extrapolating guilt onto all Germans and leveraging the Holocaust on behalf of your own financial benefit at the expense of all Germans for generations. It's called "collective guilt." And Jewish Zionists believe that they can impose it upon the world, but not have it imposed upon them. Sorry, no can do.

  29. tommy says:

    I live in a Southwestern city and never see Mexican flags. What I do see are a lot of automobiles with bumper stickers with the American and Israeli flags joined together and flags from Ireland.

  30. Suzanne's logic mentor says:

    "Only problem was that this was clearly recognizable as the logo of Maccabi Tel Aviv"
    Surely the Star of David, a sacred and age old symbol of Judaism, is not being used as the logo of a basketball team? Say it ain't so, JES!

  31. Chris Berel says:

    Of course it is. The Symbol is not itself sacred. But then, if you knew anything, you wouldn't be the idiot we know you to be.

  32. Citizen says:

    Well, here's some historical data on the symbol. After reading it one could reasonably conclude
    that the symbol was not too important (for example, compared to the menorah) until the Nazis used it to ID jews; the Jews then put it on their subsequent state flag. Sort of like blacks taking over the word N—-.

    I'm wondering what would happen if suddenly people went beyond bumper stickers indicating
    their ethnic pride, and everyone put up the flag of the ethnic group they ID most with, along with
    the red, white, blue. Say, on flag day, or July 4th, or any holiday? I dunno, just wondering if it
    would be talked about at all in the MSM… Would it mean more we are united as a nation of immigrants, or we are breaking apart?

  33. Citizen says:

    Here's the url reference:
    link to en.wikipedia.org
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  34. JES says:

    Sorry citizen. The Zionist (Israeli) flag with blue stripes and Star of David on a field of white predated the Nazis by about 40 years.

  35. JES says:

    None of that has prevented you Jewish Zionists from extrapolating guilt onto all Germans and leveraging the Holocaust on behalf of your own financial benefit at the expense of all Germans for generations.

    Ed, I got news for you. It's not just "Jewish Zionists" who've extrapolated guilt onto all Germans. When I was growing up, even thinking of buying a German product was anathema to non-Zionists and Zionists alike.

    Of course, it's a bit easier to place collective guilt when, over a period of less than a decade, roughly a third of the Jewish population – 6 million – are killed, as opposed to nine years since 2000 and the second intifada during which Israel killed just under 5,000 Palestinians (the majority of them armed).

  36. Ed says:

    You forgot the tens of millions of Christians killed in Soviet Russia by the Jewish Bolsheviks, "JES." And yes, the Jewish Bolsheviks were indeed Zionists (aka Jewish supremacists); only their "Holy Land" was the Communist Party, which they (you) merely took ethnocentric and transplanted to Israel.

    That's a lot of goy blood on Zionist hands, JES. Far more than vice-versa. You're damn lucky you still exist at the pleasure of a (nominally) Christian nation. If it was the other way around, there’s no doubt there wouldn't be a Christian left on the face of the earth. But Christian charity only goes so far.

    Don't push your friggin luck, rat.

  37. JES says:

    Hey Ed. Your barber called. He wanted to remind you about your appointment to get your head shaved.

    You know, you should really get your facts straight. The tens of millions of Soviet citizens were killed by a former Georgian Christian seminary student – Josef Stalin. By the mid-1930s, Stalin had purged all of the Bolsheviks, including the Jews. Stalin wasn't Jewish, and neither were his henchmen Khrushchev and Beria.

    At the time of his death, Josef Vassarionavich Djugashvili was planning to deport the Soviet Union's remaining Jews to Siberia where he could finish the job that the Nazis had started.

    Maybe you should get your histor straight you friggin mouse!

  38. Shafiq says:

    Sorry Jes

    I live in Britain where you're unlikely to see any flags (not even British or English flags). The only exception to this rule is today (St. George's Day), during the World Cup (or any other major sporting event), and a Royal Jubilee of some sort. We just don't do blind patriotism – it's unpatriotic ;-)

    And it also seems you didn't bother looking at my links – You should do, they have nice Stars of Davids in the photos – very cute.

  39. JES says:

    Shafiq, I did look at them. Tell me what is the significance of the graffiti on the walls painted by individuals. As I said before, it's not policy. It's pretty much like what was reported yesterday in Ha'aretz:

    http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1080554.html

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