Can academia be bought by ideological lobbyists? What about prestige academia?
Here is a stunning piece in the Yale Globalist (passed along by the tireless Bob Feldman) about a study on mathematical models for counter-terrorism strategy that has been undertaken by a Yale professor of management in conjunction with an Israeli dean at the Technion (Israel's MIT). How did this partnership come about? For ideological reasons; because a New York Jewish real-estate magnate named Daniel Rose was enraged by the academic boycott in England and set out to counter it. Globalist:
Rose
sought a way to show solidarity with Israelis and to demonstrate that
the American academic community would not follow Britain’s behavior. In
an interview with the Globalist, he explained the message he hoped to
convey: “Not only are American institutions not closing down discourse,
but they are ready to expand discourse with Israeli academics.”
…In response
to the boycott, Rose, an elderly Jewish man with connections to Yale
University and Israel’s Technion Institute, decided to launch a program
that would facilitate dialogue between the two renowned universities.
Given Israel’s expertise in the field, Rose saw international terrorism
as a logical focus.
Because he was familiar with the
philosophies of both universities— he is a Yale alumnus, and an
honorary lifetime member of the Technion board—Rose believed that
collaboration between Yale SOM and Technion could yield “a very happy
relationship.” He contacted the American Technion Society (ATS), an
organization that facilitates American coordination with Technion, to
see if any collaboration already existed between the two schools.
To
Rose’s delight, ATS connected him with [Yale's Edward] Kaplan, who had previously
worked with Technion’s [Boaz] Golany on a project that modeled resource
allocation in counterterrorism spending. The two were keen to further
their partnership. Encouraged by their enthusiasm, Rose donated $1.3
million in May for three years of collaborative research with virtually
no stipulations.
…[B]oth Kaplan and Golany see the value in fostering
connections with their respective governments. Kaplan hopes to share
his findings with agencies like the FBI, the CIA, the department of
defense, and various municipal police departments. He is encouraged by
what he described as “terrific lines of communication going on with
officials in the right places.” In Israel, Golany said he enjoys “close
collaboration with defense agencies,” providing both unclassified and
confidential information for their use.
I'm sure Kaplan and Golany are smart guys. But this is about the instrumentalization of scholarship: using big money to gain prestige for a particular policy, in this case the bad idea that Israel and the U.S. are in the same war. Yale is being used, the way thinktanks are used.
What would happen if a Yale scholar wanted to study the Israel lobby's effect on our foreign policy? Could he get funding?
By the way, Daniel Rose, who subsidized this amazing venture, is the father of Gideon Rose, the managing editor of Foreign Affairs, the journal of the Council on Foreign Relations. Foreign Affairs published an attack on Walt and Mearsheimer's book two years back written by Walter Russell Mead. Like father, like son? Well– I wonder.
"a study on mathematical models for counter-terrorism strategy"
counter-terrorism strategy:
a. get jewish thugs out of palestinian and iraqi homes
b. arrest jewish terrorists (includes pencil pushing liars at universities and swindling institutions)
all else that kaplan pretends is make work for someone useless like himself.
The number of assumptions this research pre-supposes is stunning. I will bet anyone on this board $1,000 (I will only pay once with proof) that this study does not include the effect (detailed) on the amount of terrorism if (1) Israel creates a two-state solution, and (2) if Israel creates a one-state solution with full rights for Israelis and former Palestinians no matter what their religion. This study does not include it. I can go to the bank with that. It is, therefore, in my view an academically bankrupt study at its core.
I don't understand, Phil. Arab nationals and Arab governments donate hundreds of billions of dollars to gain influence on US university campuses, all in an effort to foster a closer relationship with the Muslim and Arab world – which, for argument's sake, may or may not be a "bad idea", as you say. That's the way the American University system (in contrast to the British system) works, particularly with the large number of quality university that are almost totally dependent on endowments. What would happen if a Yale scholar wanted to study the Israel lobby's effect on our foreign policy? Could he get funding? Honestly Phil. I'm beginning to think that you are really shallow! What's to stop a Yale scholar from getting such funding?
I don't understand, Phil. Arab nationals and Arab governments donate hundreds of billions of dollars to gain influence on US university campuses You have a link for this claim? Hundreds of billions? Which campuses? Arab nationals: know any names? Which governments?
"What's to stop a Yale scholar from getting such funding?"____Alan Dershowitz: http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/the-case-against...
All Arabs/Muslims that want to breathe freely, without fearing torture and coruption are nationalists. And if they keep quite, heads bent down, for fear of their familes lives, they are called cowards. Sometimes, instead of doing something productive, at least once a week, I like to sulk and feel sorry for our kind. No sympathy, no way out. (I guess I'm a nationalist and never knew it. I'm probably an Islamist fascist and don't know it either).
Sorry, that should have been "hundreds of millions", not "hundreds of billiions". You might want to start by taking a look at the donors for the endowed chair in memory of Edward Said at Columbia University. I believe that the United Arab Emerates is one of the donors. Prince Alwaleed of Saudi Arabia also comes to mind as a donor to endowed chairs and resarch grants.
I'm pretty sure the endowed chair in memory of Edward Said does not come with political strings attached. Otherwise by now the endowed chair and the money would be hounded out. We just don't have that kind of power yet. Whe and if we do, I'm sure the corrupt among us will rise to the occasion and behave exactly as the Jewish elites are doing right now.
Saleema, I don't think that Alan Dershowitz was capable of shutting up either Mearsheimer or Walt. As far as norman Finkelstein goes, well why don't you have a look at his CV and tell us why he deserved tenure: http://www.islamophobiaconference.org/cv/CV-Norman_G.FIN... target=”_blank”>http://www.islamophobiaconference.org/cv/CV-Norman_G.FIN... Remember, that collection represents the total academic work of a "scholar" of over 20 years, and includes obvious political screeds as well as a political brochure, not to mention that it does not include any peer reviewed articles. And this, is all added to the fact that Norm is an asshole with a violent temper, which I am sure did nothing to endear him to the faculty who would have to spend the rest of their careers at his side if he did get tenure.
You can't get tenure is you're an asshole and you have a temper? Your link didn't work, but here are the students who had him for a professor. http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?t... BTW, "obvious political screeds?" What do you think Dershowitz does? Recipes?
That's ONE CHAIR at ONE UNIVERSITY, and it was for a man who had a lot of stature within the university with academics of all religions and nationalities. He was there for ages. You wrote " gain influence on US university campuses." What are the others? Where?
BTW. You can't get tenure is you're an asshole and you have a temper? In reality, yes, that's the way it generally works. And you left out the critical adjective "violent". Generally, people don't like working around others with violent tempers who are prone to throw punches in addtion to hissy fits. Again, in reality, student ratings have a relatively minor influence on the tenure committees, who are more interested in what the candidate will contribute academically to the university. Students leave after a few years. Faculty stay on – likely for their entire careers.
JES49, Finklestein HAD tenure, he passed whatever rules there were at DePaul in order to achieve tenure, then Dershowitz went to work to deny him it, based on what you call a political screed and threatening the loss of money.
I wasn't. Dershowitz enacted his political screed to get Finkelstein dumped.
CAN WE GET A PREVIEW BUTTON ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
"…Norm is an asshole with a violent temper…" Dershowitz is an asshole with a violent temper and he got tenure. Norm doesn't kiss Zionist ass. That's the difference.
JES49 Here's your "hundreds of millions: reported by CampusWatch, the Zionist watchdog of university campuses in the USA. Edward Said Chair at Columbia : $4 million Harvard Divinity School (HDS): $2.5 million Total: $6.5 million Do me a favor in future because it gets to be a drag fact-checking every rabid Zionist claim, although I do it as a matter of course: do your homework. And dont expect the intelligent people on this board to drink kool-aid because it's written in the inimitably breathless style of ziocaine madness. We loves you babee, but we're all full up here.
It's called the 'Edit' feature.
Of course not, the Arabs would NEVER dream of trying to get political influence in the US. They, unlike the Jews, are completely altruistic. Right. Just like when Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar gave Secretary of State Powell a Jaguar automobile as a gift…he was simply being a good friend, not trying to buy influence.
When Edward Said died, I baweld. Something just broke inside me. I read the news while on campus. My friends thought I had gone nuts. Stragers looked quizzically at me. I decided it was best to go home and have a good cry there. I couldn't control my tears. Never met him. I discovered him through his book on Orientalism. I fell in love. His study on it gave me a good dose of the self-esteem I needed. I would sit amongst the book shelves at the library, on the floor, read it and then put it back, come back the next day and pick up where I left off. We have milions of writers in our world, but so few inspire people the way some of them do. Edward Said was one of them. Long live the memory of Edward Said. I was once told that when God loves someone, He makes the people love him too.
Yeah, that was embarrasing. I don't understand why Arabs have to do so much ass kissing. The door to power is always revolving. Now the Jews, tomorrow the Arabs? That's why we should all be wary of rich Jewish organizations as well as rich Arab monarchs.
"Total: $6.5 million" My grandmother would describe mice as being far more fierce than they actually were. In the same manner, $6.5 million of Arab money equals hundreds of billions of dollars to a wool-dyed Zionist until you call them on it. Then six point five mill just becomes worth hundreds of millions of dollars. See how it works?
I guess this all really hinges on the nature of the project being funded. I often feel that the most dangerous thing about these projects is that they presuppose a definition of terrorism that just happens to include selected national liberation forces (which are of course, irregular, non-state actors, by definition). The 2006 UK Terrorism Act certainly does this, and it is presumably able to legitimise itself by referring to these endless studies.
Oh, and BTW, BTW, I'm pretty certain that Dershowitz began writing those screeds after he got tenure and not as an integral part of his academic qualifications for receiving tenure at Harvard!
Excuse me Saleema, but where exactlly does it say in Phil's post that there were "political strings attached"? We just don't have that kind of power yet. Excuse me again? There are 700 million Arabs and 1.5 billion Muslims sitting on top of several trillion dollars in wealth, and you don't have that kind of power yet? Get real, lady!
For something which never actually happened, the "British academic boycott of Israel" sure seems to have a lot of influence.
Finkelstein did not HAVE tenure. He had a tenure-track position. He had passed the minimum requirements fo achieve tenure, and he had passed the first hurdle of his immediate department (and even this, some report, was achieved with some degree of bullying).
Sure, and then you can add that to Prince Alwaleed's donations of $20 million each to Georgetown and Harvard: "In December, Harvard and Georgetown universities announced that they'd each received $20 million from Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Al Saud, for programs in Islamic studies." http://sandbox.blog-city.com/georgetown_yankees_i... Which brings us to precisely $46.5 million. (Which, BTW, is about 36 times what Rose donated to Kaplan and Golany.) You're so good at fact checking, babee, I'm certain you could continue and find some more endowments, but please spare us the cheap-shot insults.
And, if I may ask Saleema, why is this Germane? (Personally, I don't think that Said contributed much to the study of the history of the Middle East, apart from providing people with the ability to make the baseless accusation of "orientalist" when confronting someone whose opinion they didn't agree with. And I really didn't care much for his flowery writing style at all.)
I don't think that Dershowitz has a violent temper. I seem to remember that, when I was in graduate school, during one of their debates Chomsky threatened to punch Dershowitz, and I think the Norm looked like he was getting ready to punch Dershowitz during one of their debates, but I don't recall Dershowitz ever becoming, or threating to become, violent. (Of course, jdva, if you have any information on this important subject, please feel free to correct me!)
And here's another set of endowments for $7 million: "The Al-Falah ("Success") Program was established with a $2 million endowment from the Alireza family to support a better understanding of Muslims and to promote technology transfer to the Muslim world, particularly Saudi Arabia. The Sultan Endowment for Arab Studies, established by a $5 million gift from the Sultan ibn 'Abd al-'Aziz Charity Foundation, is dedicated to broadening understanding of the Arab and Islamic worlds." http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200301/the.... The same source, yields still another totally $2 million: "Harvard received two major endowments for Arabic lectureships in 2001. One, a $500,000 gift early in the year from Khalid Alturki, a Saudi businessman, was in addition to the $1.5 million he had given to establish the Contemporary Arab Studies Program at the Harvard center." We're up to $55.5 million now.
And then we have this: "Clearly, Gulf Arab countries have a particularly strong interest in US universities. If we focus only on gifts and exclude contracts, most of which seem related to oil production and research, Gulf Arabs gave a total of $88 million to 14 US universities between 1995 and the present. The biggest recipients (in order) are the University of Arkansas (where I am a professor), Georgetown University, George Washington University and Harvard University." http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?st...
William Buckley did threaten to punch Chomsky in the face once, but I would like to see your evidence for Chomsky threatening Dershowtiz.
"In their study entitled Mega-Gifts in American Philanthropy (2003), Tobin and his colleagues offer some compelling data on the patterns of giving of this new class of American Jewish wealth. Of the 502 mega- donors in the United States, 123 or nearly 25% of this total category of philanthropists were Jewish. Between 1995 and 2000 these 502 funders made a large number of signifi- cant gifts in excess of $10 million dollars each, accounting for more than $29 billion in total contributions: “Jewish donors made 188 or 21.7% of the 865 total gifts, contrib- uting $5,260,700,000 (18%) of the mega gift dollars” (Tobin et al., 2003, p. 17). This study also noted the Jewish mega-donors directed the bulk of their giving to higher education (49%)…" http://www.jcsana.org/upimagesjcsa/SecondAmerJewishRevol...
Let him, and his memory, stay dead. It's not every day that a badly written, sloppily researched and mean-spirited book captures the academic imagination so powerfully that it changes the way in which people regard a particular field of inquiry. Such was the case, though, with Said's "Orientalism." Since 1978, this screed has become something of a gospel for the uninformed. Meanwhile, the quaint designation "orientalist" has become a term of opprobrium — both in English and in Arabic — and whole new disciplines, usually of dubious merit, have been spawned, of which "Post-Colonial Studies" is probably the most meretricious. by Eric Ormsby The Wall Street Journal November 4, 2006 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB11625957657261305...
My god you are a light-weight! What on earth does this paper have to do with the subject (which, I remind you, is gifts to universities)? And since when is philanthropy a bad thing?
Your link doesn't work and alot of us are very familiar with Finkelstein's academic work thanks very much – and regard it very highly. His tenure should have been based soley on his academic works -which have been ground breaking and if not peer reviewed, rated very highly by some very significant and highly respected scholars. How old are you JES49? You strike me as someone very young and not too bright…
I wouldn't worry too much about American Zionist-support money, now that Madoff is hor's de combat. Sure, there are lots of ziocaine addicts among American Jews. The vast majority of American Jews will be disgusted and cut off contributions when they find out the facts about Israel. Unless, of course, they run into JES, or Bar Kochba, or their ilk. Then, when they see what kind of mensch these ziocaine devotees are, they will open their checkbooks, pronto. Better hoppe Madoff gets off.
Philanthropy is a bad thing when Muslims or Arabs do it.
No it isn't.
the jewish donations/bribes/strong-arming are why universities censor re the shitty entity and why there are so many jews (profs, students, other) at the better known universities. not because they are such geniuses.
"The vast majority of American Jews will be disgusted and cut off contributions when they find out the facts about Israel" no the vast majority of the mega rich, mega demented will contribute even more to counter, destroy truth
The Muslim people in their own countries are not empowered. Everyone who knows a l ittle about politics knows it. If it serves you to deny it, then–well go right ahead and deny it. Are the Chinese people empowered? Nearly all Muslims live in banana republics and the only powerful pepole there are the the ruthless rulers. You are being disingenous.
The vast majority of American Jews will be disgusted and cut off contributions when they find out the facts about Israel. Well aren't you the omniscient one. You have just the right amount of yiddishkeit (FYI, the plural of mensch is menschen.) I bet you even enjoy a Reuben sandwich on occasion. (I just settle for a ham and cheese.) At any rate, I imagine that you're the stereotypic wise-ass-know-it-all-Jewboy.
"study on mathematical models for counter-terrorism strategy(CTS) " CTS: a. get jewish thugs out of palestinian and iraqi homes and off their land b. arrest jewish terrorists (includes the pencil pushing liars in universities, propaganda tanks, swindling institutions)
Chomsky threatened to punch Dershowitz? What a load of bullshit. Chomsky's exchanges with Dershowitz, both in email and in-person are widely reported within the academic world. So give us a source. I recall William F. Buckley threatening to punch Chomsky in 'the goddamn face' on his show decades ago. Dershowitz is certainly a hack and imbecile on the Israel-Palestine conflict. I don't recall him being violent but he is an asshole. Anyone who's seen his debates can confirm that. He is a buffoon and hides his ignorance by shouting down his opponents and resorting to purely rhetorical tactics rather than anything of substance and relevance.
E. Said was a great man. very much hated and feared by jews. that is why he was and still is attacked. ad hominem attacks. jews and their pets cant touch ES intellectually. his phone was tapped for 30 years. not so noam chomsky. maybe ES was poisoned as was arafat?
A very small handful of Arabs hold virtually all of that wealth you attribute to all arabs collectively; it's no secret they do not care about their own people, but we don't care as a government as it serves our purpose. Can you say Shah Of Iran? Just one example, but readers will get my point. Further Israel has been propped up by the Western white countries since inception, and white Russia too, while the arabs have had no such support, comparatively speaking. You feign ignorance of world history by claiming that mere demography controls which way the wind blows in terms of power. To cut this short, money and control of the media is everything; Israel is immensely helped by Jews taking full advantage of Western diaspora Jewish influence–this has led to forgiving Israel where no other state would be so forgiven, nor given so much marketing and financial support–no strings attached. In the end, it's the difference between Christian moral guilt, based on character integrity, and Jewish double moral standards in the same realm. This in turn is obviously very talmudic in origin, the same basis for how Jews gained influence in the diaspora since the Middle Ages, when Christians were not allowed to be doctors or usurers, for example. What's more important than physical health and compound interest?
possibly a double post. thought i had commented as reply to saleema re Edward Said but cant find. Edward Said was a great and brilliant man. that is why jewry hated and feared him. ad hominem attacks continue. they cant touch him as a scholar. for over 30 yrs his phone was tapped. not so with noam chomsky. maybe Said was poisoned/infected (leukemia) similar to arafat.
Federal law requires that all schools fill disclosure forms on foreign donation and describe any conditions or restrictions. One can rest assured that various organizations,i.e. Campus Watch and clones, will be reviewing those disclosure forms. One can only imagine the pressure that will be put on any school by Dershowtz and clones regarding any and all "suspect" gifts. If these types sit in classrooms monitoring professors for any suspect antiSemitism, should there be any doubt what such fevered minds may discover in some disclosure form? Most schools just don't need the extra grief, and this is probably the major reason donations to American universities by Arab entities are not higher.
JES49 my, my you are an ultra-lightweight. You better have your Jewish credentials double checked. The comment is a response to relative funding of universities by arabs and jews in the USA. What's 1/2 of $5, 260,700,000.00 compared to the early figures on this thread of Arab mega-donor's to US universities? LOL
" I imagine that you're the stereotypic wise-ass-know-it-all-Jewboy" I've been called "Jewboy" before by anti-semites a time or two. I can take it.. But you do have a point JES, it is too bad that Judaism, or Jewry, is plagued by people like me. We're not the stuff of settler-colonies, no sir. So how can you fix that, how do you plan to improve the breed?
Like I've been doing up until now: By simply ignoring you and all your khokhmologias.
No one here's saying much about the substance of this report, about this ridiculous "center" based at Yale. Let's review: Yale has accepted a pile of money from Zionist doners and has appointed as the director this guy Charles Small, who is an assistant prof at Southern Connecticut State Uni — he's not Yale faculty cause he'd never make the grade (although he often plays down his real appointment, and has Yale U biz cards he hands out wherever he goes). Small is an unqualified idiot, I saw him speak once and not only was he your more-than-usual hysterical Zionut, but worse (or better) still, he was a terrible, disorganized and completely incoherent speaker, whose only thought was to communicate that Iran was on the cusp of enacting another holocaust. He reacted badly to the critical comments of the audience, basically accusing anyone who merely wished for an iota of proof for his claim that they were complicit in the coming slaughter of the Jews, and hence are anti-Semites,etc. What an embarrassment for Yale, I must say. In any case someone really needs to make a subject of study this "antisemitism center" that's appeared with little academic merit in this elite university…
Perhaps that's because you've confused two separate issues: The Yale Initiative for the Interdiciplinary of Antisemitism (YIISA) – which is indeed headed by the lecuterer at Yale whom you mentioned – and a joint research project between a professor at the Yale School of Management and a mathematician at the Technion that is funded by a Jewish philanthropist to the tune of $1.3 million over three years. It is the latter that is the topic of the article in the "Yale Globalist" and what is being discussed here. I don't know where you came by the information that "Yale has accepted a pile of money from Zionist doners…" to establish the YIISA.
But this is about the instrumentalization of scholarship: using big money to gain prestige for a particular policy, in this case the bad idea that Israel and the U.S. are in the same war. Yale is being used, the way thinktanks are used. Once again, Phil, I think you've missed the point. To quote Kaplan: “'The majority of academic research on terrorism is either on the sociological or political economy side of it—the root causes of terrorism, the macro policy work, what things a given country is doing that are encouraging terrorism,'” Kaplan explained. “'We deal at the operational level. We want to prevent people from launching a successful attack.'” [emphasis added] In other words, and I will explain this slowly, the goal is, in fact, to depoliticize the study of terrorism to save lives. Now do you understand the difference between this research project and, say, a "study the Israel lobby's effect on…US foreign policy"?
No. Phil is on point. You ignore the total historical and current politicalization of the word "terrorism." We won't drink your Kool-Aid.
I'm sure that Phil will be quite pleased to hear that you think he's on point. One cannot take the fact that two Jewish professors – one at Yale and the other at the Technion – are building mathematical models on, for example, the spread of bacteria and claim that this is an attempt to further the "bad idea that Israel and the U.S. are in the same war," even if the research is financed by a wealthy Jew. In other words you can't take two plus two and convince rational people that the sum is five!