Journalist Ron Kampeas of JTA (a settler who owns property in illegally-annexed East Jerusalem) writes today that the American Jewish Committee has not
run from a debate with "bums" Walt and Mearsheimer. He says the AJC has merely postponed such a debate (forever):
[I]t is not out of the question that a more urgent matter might press the professional leader of a group that informally calls itself
drum roll
"the State Department of the Jewish people" to delay discussion of a topic that ain't exactly about to drop off the radar.
"One would hope there would be an appreciation of scheduling difficulties," Ken Bandler, the AJC's spokesman, told me. "The issues we would discuss with Professor Mearsheimer are not going away. Whether now or in a few months, there will be plenty to talk about."In other words, game still on.
Holding up my end of the discussion here, I asked Mearsheimer– He responds:
"[AJC spokesman] Ben Cohen did not say that the AJC was simply putting off or delaying the debate. He said, as I reported in my July 12 note to you, that we might revisit the issue in 2010. He gave no indication that the AJC was committed to having the debate we had been talking about. And given what happened in my negotiations between April and June, I have no reason to think that the AJC really wants to have a debate. But if they do, David Harris should call up some institution like YIVO or the 92nd Street Y and ask it (not the AJC) to set up a public debate with me and Steve on one side and Harris and another prominent figure from the lobby on the other side. I am sure that there is an institution in New York that would be happy to sponsor a serious debate involving that cast of characters and would do a fine job arranging it. David Harris would simply have to show up and he would even have a wingman to help him out. And I am sure that C-Span would happily cover the event so that people all around the country could see it."
Jerusalem is one city and the capital of the Jewish nation
"the State Department of the Jewish people" Wow. Back when Irgun front man Peter Bergsen was pestering Senator Harry S Truman for a US funded "Jewish Army" in the Middle East, Truman told him that based on his positive experience with his Jewish war buddies in the Great War, he thought they'd do better just to enlist in the Army (letter 1/28/1942). S where'd this new State Department come from? Where does it fall on the American org chart? Dotted line across, down, ….or up?
That is hysterical… "So here's my challenge: I may not be a "heavyweight," but I can wipe the floor with these bums." Kamps couldn't wipe the floor with 99% of the informed readers on this site much less W&M. And what is the …"the state department of the jewish people"? Is that a branch of the ADL or AIPAC or the Israel project or the RJC or the Jewish Council of Presidents amd so on. LOL How many organs do we have now of the "Jewish People 's International Governments of the Jewish people"? Pretty soon they will have more "departments" of the "Government for the World Jewish People" than they have world jews if this keeps up.
Introduction: The Virtual Colonial Motherland as Political Innovation In brief, the Zionist Virtual Colonial Motherland (Judonia) has created an imperial system in which the State of Israel is the linchpin or keystone and in which the USA is a dependent and intimidated client state. Occasionally, Judonia lends it personnel to client states just as the UK used to send advisers to princely states in India or to help Egypt deal with its debts. Dennis Ross, Larry Summers, Rahm Emanuel, Marty Feldstein, Elaine Kagan, etc. are all examples of such advisers.
an opinion, surely
So if the supply of Jews runs out, can't a rebbe just confer honorary jewdihood on a gentile?
A fact.
Maybe its also one city and the capital of the Palestinian nation.
Where is your evidence?
Incorrect Jerusalem is one city and the sovereign capital of the Jewish nation
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1980_1989/Ba...
Pretty obvious M&W are afraid of Dershowitz. They have been avoiding him for years and now they come out with the canard he called them anti Semites and their feelings were hurt. It had nothing to do with Dershowitz being a world class Lawyer with the ability to make the look like fools.
Anti-semite
Similarly, Truman signed the 1948 letter of recognition of Israel shortly after 6 PM, giving de facto recognition to the new state and its government. In the prepared statement, written before the name of the state was announced, he crossed out the words "the Jewish State" and wrote "Israel." There's a photo of the edited letter in the Truman Archives. http://www.mideastweb.org/
Judonia? Have you defeated it yet or are those Jews still winning nobel prizes and kicking your Jew hating butt.
But not as many definitions as the Jews have of who is a Jew. What color is a chameleon? LOL
I think you misspoke. Didn't you mean to say Dershowitz is a world class Liar? No one can win a debate with a Liar, becuase they don't play by an accepted set of rules. There is no point in debating a Liar like Dershowitz. Also, he'll likely try to bite off your ear when he's losing.
Jewish girls are promiscuous. Just as ridiculous of an assertion and hopefully as aggravating to you.
Bring it on Mearsheimer! These cowards are like flies in an outhouse. Open the door and they dive back in the bowl to feed.
Ah – Israel goes it alone. Where have we heard this one before… I know – Germany did the same about 60 years ago.
Well argued.
These negotiations between JTA and M%W are reminiscent the Israeli position in the IP negotiations: Sure you can have your state but not until sometime in the future.
Berlin, Hauptstadt der DDR ist die Hauptstadt der DDR. Berlin, capital of the GDR, is the capital of the GDR. So basically East Germany created a second Berlin, "Berlin" in the West and "Berlin, capital of the DDR" in the East.
Ya, why send me to a declaration by the Israeli Foreign Ministry? The Nazi Foreign Ministry made similar fiat assertions. I asked for evidence.
Actually more of them are pulling a Madoff or Milkin, or are busy writing up new opaque "securities."
The plan is up on the shelf. Here's a one-legged stool to help you reach it.
"Dershowitz, who publicly challenged Walt and Mearsheimer to a debate last week, said that Mearsheimer had been scheduled to debate him on the BBC at 10:30 p.m Eastern time Thursday. But Dershowitz said that he received a call at 10:35 p.m. saying that Mearsheimer had cancelled the debate. " http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=512389 This is the reality. Meirsheimer cancelled a debate after it was due to start.. He ran from Dershowitz . You can spin it any way you want. Meirsheimer ran and he continues to run from Dershowitz.
Someone like Joe Massad should be a participant in the debate. Obviously Jewish Zionists and the American policy crowd are concerned parties, but so are Palestinians.
From Gary Rosenblatt: Noah Feldman and the Confrontation of American with Jewish or Zionist Values — … since the 10th century at least (probably earlier) Jerusalem has had much more importance for Jews as a spiritual concept than as a physical place. Vilna was the Jerusalem of Lithuania. Thessalonika was la chica Yerushalayim. Amsterdam was the Jerusalem of the North. While for Palestinians there is only one Jerusalem, it probably would not be hard to come up with 50-100 cities that Jews called Jerusalem over the last millennium. I could write a nice coffee table book with several interesting chapters on some of the most picturesque of these "Jerusalems." The actual physical Jerusalem became, especially for ethnic Ashkenazim, sort of a dumping ground for trouble-makers or eccentrics and not a place of tremendous emotional significance or attachment. A young woman, the Virgin of Ludmir, is getting uppity and trying to play the role of a Tzaddik or Rebbe. The community sends her to Jerusalem in Palestine, and for the most part no one hears of her again.
Third Fraud: Longing for Zion: Sholem Aleichem describes how much ethnic Ashkenazim really wanted to emigrate to Palestine.
What does winning nobel prizes have to do with anything thedhimmi? There haven;t been that many Chines, black and Indians nobel prize winners, so I guess you're saying that they are sub human too, am I right?
No Dershowitz is easy to debate because as we saw with the Chomsky debate, he loses it too easily and quickly strats hurling insults. I recall when Carter's book came out, Dersh bag wall all over the shop trying to denounce it as being full or errors, but as soon as Carter had a reprint done to fix one sentence, Dersh said he had no problem with the book. Dersh is a sleazy wind bag. Finkelstrin had his for breakfast the last time they debated.
Meirsheimer has no reason to run from Dershowitz. Dershowitz is a wimp and a piece of cake to debate. Finkelstein tore him apart. "link to thecrimson.com
You sure about this link? it is dated April 1, 2006.