Rahm Emanuel, quoted in the Jerusalem Post, his speech to the Jewish Federations:
Beginning his speech by referring to his long-standing ties to Israel, Emanuel warned about the dangers of abandoning the effort to make a deal with the Palestinians.
"Demographics cannot be denied," he declared, referring to a situation whereby Israel would have to "attempt to preserve a democratic state, aJewish state when Jews will soon be a minority west of the Jordan River."
At the same time, he lashed out at Palestinians who advocated a one-state solution, which he described as "the false hope that this measure will eventually overwhelm Israel and lead to its demise."
Any of Rahm’s tea leaves here?
link to haaretz.com
“Post-racial”?
Where is race in this?
He is pro self-determination, pro-sovereignty, pro-self-governance.
As is Obama, as are all that are really democratic.
Yeah, OK, Richard, how about “Obama aide is not post-Israel First”?
Any listener to Rahm’s speech would think he’s not the gate-keeper for POTUS, but for
Israel. And, yeah, you and he are all for pro-self-determination on an equal basis. And
yeah, you can nit-pick at Phil’s article’s subject header because he used the term
“post-racial”; we all know Jews conceive of themselves, and are therefore conceived of by non-Jews as–pick a walnut shell: an ethnicity, culture, a religion, a race, a political persuasion, whatever, whatever suits the purpose. Perhaps Phil should have stated his article subject as “Obama aide is still a ‘kosher’ MOT”?
Pro-racial! Of course!
I keep wondering why Israel won’t just take the last step and complete their takeover of the American Govt. If you do very little research you will find they already have the Congress, the NSC, most foreign relations and security committees, US miltary establishment and companies, research institutes and so called think tanks who write papers 100% favoring support for Israel policies. They scare the heck out of any president and pretty well dictate what they want them to say. Every President or prospect like McCain and others before him go to AIPAC and apply there first.
Is President Benjamin Netanyahou a fantasy or simply a matter of how you look at things inside the US. Knesset or Congress, take your pick. How do Americans feel about becoming Israelis, of course all non jews would have to accept 2nd class status.
Well, on the plantation there were the Uncle Toms, the house slaves, and the field hand masses and their families. Today, most Americans are the field hands and their families. Ain’t Dennis Kuncinich uppity? And how about Carter, and M & W? Ron Paul and Baird are a couple more of those uppity negras to watch. And don’t forget Cynthia McKinney–they all need a good whippin’. Better see if the chief Uncle Tom
can talk to ‘em first–always wise not to make a spectacle right off.
The Israel-firsters control foreign policy in the middle east already.
Utterly.
I doubt they either need or have the manpower to do anything more than INFLUENCE (albeit heavily) the rest of the US Goverment. To think they do starts buying into the whole “they want to take over the world” crap.
The Israeli lobby may be extremely powerful in the United States but they hardly have complete control over anything that’s not related to American foreign policy in the United States.
Yes its a horrible situation to have a foreign government on the other side of the world virtually dictate our foreign policy in the Middle East, but to say that this same lobby also controls everything else is going a bit to far.
Following Abunimah’s lead, I would say that Emanuel was expressing “racist fears of the black and brown hordes”, and suggesting the establishment of two or more Palestinian homelands, in order to safeguard minority or soon-to-be minority Jewish rule. “At the same time, he lashed out against Palestinians who advocated” majority rule. The only anomaly here is that Emanuel is not director general of the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office, but White House chief of staff.
Shmuel.
“The only anomaly here is that Emanuel is not director general of the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office, but White House chief of staff.”
Thank you.
“”No one should allow the issue of settlements to distract from the goal of a lasting peace between Israel, the Palestinians and the Arab world,” …”
What the hell is this? Than we have the old “no docket” before talks, does anything ever change? It is similar to a shoe salesman trying to sell you the same pair over and over again, the ones that you don’t want. They need to be told to go fuck themselves.
No. With most of their lands taken by force and used to build more colonies, the Palestinians are expected to move to the basement, it’s the same acreage, but underneath the colonies [/snark].
Who really believes this post-racial nonsense, anyway? I seriously wish that everyone could live together peacefully, but that is not going to happen. And I don’t believe that most of the people who talk multiculturalism, post-racialism, one world, or any other sort of progressive garbage believe so, either. One would have to either ignore reality on many levels, or wish for chaos, to believe that culture, religion and group identity can be wiped away.
How long will people like Emanuel be able to play both sides of the fence to the great harm of America?
It’s interesting that Rahm acknowledges that a Jewish state is incompatible with democracy. But like all Zionists, he’s obsessed with Israel to the point where he assumes everyone else must be, particularly the Palestinians. They don’t want democracy, they don’t want citizenship and its rights – no, what they really want is to drive the Joooz into the SEEEEEEEE!
I’m sure the absurdity of Rahm’s arguments escapes him. Being raised by a terrorist sure left an impression on him.
Yeah, he doesn’t want his daddy to mistake him for an arab pushing a broom.
…,”the false hope that this measure will eventually overwhelm Israel and lead to its demise.”
He assumes, perhaps correctly I do not know, that the majority of Palestinians want an end to Israel rather than freedom from the Israeli prison guards ruling the open-air concentration camps into which they have been driven. My impression is that the majority want a separate state of their own, as long as it is sovereign and viable.
What makes a hope ‘false’? Calling a hope false doesn’t make it so nor does it make vanish the Israeli-labeled ‘demographic problem’. The generations-long process of normalization of relations between neighboring peoples rather than ephemeral governments, not always even possible, will never happen without justice for Palestinians. Will Israeli remain a militarized Spartan state in perpetuity? Their ability to maintain that condition is entirely dependent upon American largess.
They are gambling everything on the hope that AIPAC and other American Israel-first/America-second organizations can maintain policy discipline in the legislative and executive branches. If they ever lose both at once the game is over. Is it not a false hope to assume that they can avoid that in perpetuity? Cracks are forming in the dam holding back a widespread national discussion of whether the interests of the United States and the Israeli Lobby actually coincide. People who change their minds when they see the truth and know it for what it is rarely change it back. Israel no longer has a shred of justice on its side. The Israeli Lobby can at most slow the growth of fractures in the damn, but they will not be able to stabilize it.
Mr. Emmanuel? Could you maybe shelf the whole dual loyalty thing? We all know how much you have, er, invested in Israel (that you even volunteered for their military instead of ours!) but we could really use you to do you job on the whole health care refor — oh. Too late. I see your friend Joe Lieberman has already taken the whole universal coverage thing off the table.
Guess we’ll have to wait another long winter and hope the Zionist groundhog comes of from under the rock before the next time we’re trying to make sure we get health care in this country that is… well, even half as accessible as what you can get by going to your “homeland,” Mr. Emmanuel.
‘Israel is an ally, not problem of US’ (yeah right) from JPost
link to jpost.com
“Senior Israel officials on Wednesday adamantly rejected the latest media speculation over bad blood between Jerusalem and Washington, backed by one US official expressing anger at the Israeli leader’s conduct in the past weeks, which might have brought on the possibly punitive blackout imposed on Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s 100-minute talk with US President Barack Obama.
“The reception [of Netanyahu in the White House] was cordial and friendly in many aspects, and even included rolling-up sleeves and cracking open beer bottles when necessary, in line with the tradition of coordination between senior Israeli and US officials,” National Security Adviser Uzi Arad told Israel Radio from Paris, where the prime minister and his entourage have landed for talks with French President Nicolas Sarkozy and other officials.
This line was probably the best one:
“The reception [of Netanyahu in the White House] was cordial and friendly in many aspects, and even included rolling-up sleeves and cracking open beer bottles when necessary”
the false hope that this measure will eventually overwhelm Israel and lead to its demise.
The same bullsh*t lies all over again. Nice framing of the one-state idea by the son of a terrorist.
Chu, chummy report from JPost, I especially like this line –
“…bad blood between Jerusalem and Washington…” Who the fuck is in Jerusalem? It must be aunt Martha, because the rest are in Tel Aviv the last time I looked. This is the type of sneaky assed bullshit I despise.
I think there’s an island nation somewhere in the pacific that recognizes Israel’s sovereignty over Jerusalem, but I could be wrong :))
Yep. That would be Palau — one of two nations that votes in the General Assembly with us, unequivocally, in support of everything and anything Israel does (three guesses who the other nation is).
We would possibly have recognized it too, but there was a massive (and of course, untelevised) flap when we tried to move our embassy there, we were apparently going to put it on land owned by Palestinians. Fancy that. So now the United States is in the unenviable position of saying one thing (our embassy is in Jerusalem!) and doing another (…yeah, but it’s actually still in Tel Aviv).
But that’s part and parcel of Zionist influence, one supposes.
On cspan now, Rahm speaking about the settlements to the Jewish federation at 2:30 pm EST.
Alan Solow, Jewish community centers assn chairman, in his introduction equates the
Ft Hood dead and maimed GIs with the single IDF tank guy who the Pals hold captive.
(applause). The bond between the US & israel is unbreakable, and the goal is a JEWISH (oral stress by Solow) state of Israel forever. Obama rightfully spurned the Durban conference as it was anti-semitic; the Goldstone was misguided and unacceptanle; the US held joint military exercises with the IDF shows our common purpose; Uncle Sam is a devoted partner. Rahm is just like the group assembled here, he is part of our community, about helping Obama to make “the world” a safer place, so here is, Rahm Immanuel!
Rahm: When my DC rabbi heard I was pitch-hitting for Obama he mailed me a bunch of talking points. Obama’s consoling our fallen GIs, our heroes, to protect our safety and freedom; let’s have a moment of silence in honor of them. Thank you (about 5 seconds of honor). Comforting the sick kids and seniors, the Federation represents these traditional values; we have a duty to our community and country–a voice for those in need; the spirit of our people; my Israeli dad gave me these values. Obama’s first act was to help those who most need it, the Recovery Act, the expansion helping
kids and woman caught between the cracks, the support of stem cell research, the support of education, new clean energy with green jobs, for comprehensive health reform so every American is covered, to wash away the sin of being seriously ill;
we are closer than anytime in the last century; the white house values are the same as those here, climate change reform, anti-terrorism, anti-nuclear Iran, aim to reduce nuclear arms and proliferation. I’m getting sick.
Hey, I suppose if 9/11 was good for Israel, so was the Fort Hood massacre! I shouldn’t be holding my breath waiting for Rahm to reject that exploitative bit of political capital, right?
Nowhere is our bond with you and all usa stronger than the bond of the usa with israel; a bond that grows stronger daily as a beacon to peace; it is not the intent or the case that the Obama regime will ever weaken its total support for Israel; its the contrary. Obama is the best chance ever for two states living side by side in peace;
when Obama took office the Gaza attack had just concluded; this moment is fragile;
history tells us nothing stands still in the middle east; we need to move forward, the path to peace is not one Israel should walk alone, so Pals should recognize Israel right to exist, etc; we are not singling out Israel for special attack; the goal is a jewish state and a pal state, both with peace and security. All issues to be resolved multilaterally; no unilateral decisions. Israel secure and with recognizedborders, and Pals with a viable and secure state. Arab states need to help the Pals and recognize Israel. Since Begin all israeli regimes have recognized the importance to move the peace process forward. Skeptics say the 2ss is impossible and the peace process has made it so. “fact is” Israel & Obama-USA will not let the 2ss solution fail; what if we fail? This is the last best chance of a peaceful and secure israel and Pal land. My family has deep roots in Israel (elaboration); so I will always know the importance of Israel–my kids will bar mitzvah in Israel. I know, that’s cheap applause–I will take your check. I see the values Israelis and Americans share. We both love equal opportunity to make tomorrow a better day. Appeals to the principles of the nation (which one; oh, yeah, they are the same). God bless America. (applause)
Chaos – of course it was good for Israel. Anything that demonizes Muslims and paints them as enemies of the US is good for Israel.
“Comforting the sick kids and seniors, the Federation represents these traditional values; we have a duty to our community and country–a voice for those in need; the spirit of our people; my Israeli dad gave me these values.”
Did his father teach him that after he blew up Palestinian marketplaces and schools or during? Must have been something he picked up after the mass murder. His father is so proud of him because he is not “a janitor or sweeping floors like Arabs.”
“Since Begin all israeli regimes have recognized the importance to move the peace process forward.”
Which essentially translated means, nothing of consequence will happen for the Palestinians.
Does anyone know Rahm’s address, I would like to deliver a rotten fish to him.
To all the fellow US military veterans who come here on this blog, I dedicate my above
typing, typos and all, of what Rahm told the Jewish community as I listened, and typed while he talked. I leave it to you to decide if he the gate-keeper honoring what you sacrificed for; I will only point out one last thing; a very disproportionate of the homeless are US military veterans. Whether the whole package is one of grace of disgrace, I leave up to you and any interested parties. It is veterans day in the USA after all; I worked in the corporate legal world for 20 years and not once did anyone there ever even recognize
Veterans Day.
Does it add insult to injury to point out that all of Rahmbo’s experience with the military, comes from his participation in a foreign military?
Yeah, Chaos, you got that rhetorical question right.
A demographica Jewish state?
Should not it be New York State – which has more Jews than in the occupied Palestine?
It’s in the US that Jewish communities are losing their members to other faiths more than anywhere else. Should not AIPAC demand an ISRAEL in the US before the Jews become a less than current 2% minority??
A food for thought for Abraham Foxman too!!
Israel – Occupation based on myths
link to rehmat1.wordpress.com
The head of J Street thought it was a lovely speech:
As Max Ajl said at Jewbonics, “What is worth it is highlighting J Street’s relentless drive to occupy the political space to the left of AIPAC. All of it, including that space directly butting up against AIPAC policy positions.“