I’m doing my little part to promote the speaking tour…Here’s the info, from the Santa Barbara Independent: "This Monday, February 8, [NYTimes Jerusalem bureau chief Ethan] Bronner will appear at UCSB’s Campbell Hall to deliver a free public lecture:Covering the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict in 2010: A Report from the Ground." Thanks to Seham.
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Promoting the “rage”?
It seems you’ve exhausted all your obfuscation arguments. You don’t even bother concealing your convoluted arguments.
I give you a month, perhaps two, until you start posting utter gibberish. That is, unless your Wittocracy can undergo some form of renewal, perhaps in time for the Spring that which is upon us, eh? Six more weeks says the groundhog.
“rage” is in quotes in Witty’s comment because it’s his own stupid label for the sentiment that values universal human rights over some idiotic, racist-nationalist fetish that is becoming uglier and costlier by the day, yet still gives Richard Witty warm, fuzzy Jewish feelings inside.
Richard, your three-word post was petulant. But at least it was devoid of flatulence this time.
The more rage the better.
If a journalist encourages rage at or disruption of a journalist, is that enhancing free speech, or suppressing it?
You’ve used that one already. Try to come up with something fresh and new.
RW, I think your discomfort with Phil, EI and countless others calling Ethan Bronner out on his conflict of interest is troublesome to you, because the MSM has had a free-ride on ethics/Zionist agenda for far too long. Following the disastrous consequences to this nation following the neo-con driven, Judith-Miller-cheerled Iraq-Afghanistan misadventures, some of us can vehemently say: We won’t get fooled again.
My issue with you is that you provide Hasbarachik nonsense that seems almost like the pablum of a stoned hippie from the 1960s, neither truly addressing the conflict or providing a sensible solution. You become the mere foil for many of the Mondo regulars, who have astounded me with the depth of their knowledge of history and politics in the M/E.
Ethan Bronner and the New York Times perpetuate a corruption of our culture, a corrosion of journalistic ethics that is nothing short of breathtaking. So Bronner is your voice of choice in reportage of the siege on Gaza. So be it. We’re with Phil Weiss. You take the New York Times, we’ll take the Guardian. Your hero is Lieberman, ours is George Galloway. You think the rockets falling into fallow fields of Sridot is the heinous crime against humanity, we think it’s US-taxpayer-funded 21st century technology white-phosphorus and fleschette bombs used against women and children in Gaza. You fully believe in the IDF report debunking Goldstone as an anti-Semite, we choose Goldstone as an impassioned beacon of reason.
May the truth be the victor.
I think its opportunistic of Phil, trivial, to engage in character assassination rather than journalism.
Bronner wrote earlier and more revealingly about Gaza than Phil, but Phil never gave him credit for going there, seeing for himself, presenting a mixed presentation of life in Gaza that most westerners hadn’t seen or heard of.
Phil doesn’t like that he’s not converted, and so willingly takes pot shots at him.
Its trivial
Sorry its not trivial to make the accusations that Phil has made.
It baffles me how you cannot understand that the man in charge of the ME section and the I/P issue is not only a “Zionist” but also has a son in the IDF.
If you don’t see that as a conflict of interest God help you.
And Bronners reports on Gaza were pathetic and incredibly misleading which is probably why you enjoyed them.
Just listened to Bronner’s Jan 27 2009 NPR interview on NPR. Also checking through some of his reports, not just the worst offenders.
Ethan Bronner is very like RW, except a lot more acute. When it comes to the question of whether Israel used white phosphorous on civilians, its all well, he’s been trying to determine that and its all “fog of war”. He interviews a woman who was hit by white phosphorous and her doctors, yet doubts that she was actually hit by it.
His “human interest” stories are OK. Its his analysis, in which he quotes Israeli military officials extensively and rather unquestionably. One example from Nov. 26 – he says:
“a casual observer could have concluded that each had carried out its duty and that peace talks would move forward. [...]
“But the casual observer would probably be mistaken. There are unlikely to be peace talks soon. In fact, tensions seem set to rise, partly because the claims of each side amount to half-truths, as the other is the first to note.”
In this article, Bronner notes that the half-truth the Palestinians accuse the Israelis of is that their settlement “freeze” excluded East Jerusalem, settlements already authorized and was only for 10 months.
On the other hand, the half-truth the Israelis accuse the Palestinians of is that their own security efforts are inadequate because without constant Israeli raids into Palestinian territory there would be rockets fired from the West Bank.
This seems like the classic “balanced” reporting. The Palestinians are stating an obvious fact, the Israelis are making rather dubious claims about the future, and failing condition it with other possibilities such as Israel actually offering an honest, just peace (OK, maybe that’s not realistic, but it is a possibility), yet Bronner reports both as half-truths.
And there always a slant – sure, there’s Jewish terrorists, the ones who killed Rabin. Nothing about Begin or Shamir. Reports on settler violence buried in the middle of a human interest story about them. Israelis regarded all Palestinians as offenders because they elected Hamas, but nothing about Israelis electing Sharon. Well, one could analyze this forever.
My questions for Bronner:
You’ve accused Hamas of anti-semitism. Yet Israel is a state which excludes most of the indigenous population from citizenship because of their creed, it’s known for bulldozing Palestinians alive, destroying their homes and taking over their property. Israel has never been known to torture Jewish prisoners, rarely if ever arrests Jews for protesting in favor of settlements. Which group, Palestinians or Israel is more racist and why do you believe that?
We’ve heard a lot about the rockets raining down on Israel from Gaza. As you’re an even-handed and fair reporter, can you tell us from 2000 to the Dec. 27 2008 Gaza offensive, how much munitions originating in Israel or from Israeli armament such as tanks stationed in Gaza rained on Gaza?
As a Jew, do you think that Judaism should be tied to the state of Israel, a state based ethnic cleansing, mass murder, and known for killing people by exploding their houses over them?
Witty hates Beck, the American populist according to O Reilly, the simple crazy according to Jon Stew Daily, except as to Beck’s ignorance of the I-P history and situation now, both seem to agree let’s not show it on national usa tv. Joke. The American Jew and the American Mick
pretend to be honest in public view of what the USA has been supporting in the Middle East.
Goebbels would approve, as a matter of scholarship. Too bad, the USA masses, and the world, have to pay for this BS.
According to the Santa Barbara Independent this is “An Outsider’s Inside View of Israel.”
Sounds like Ethan came up with the title himself. More hasbara. “Hey, I’m still an outsider even if my kid voluntarily signed up for the IDF and not for the US Army!”
The Times must think its entire circulation is a bunch of rubes, except for its Zionist contingent, which gets a wink and a smirk. Stupid goyim.
Right from the jump hasbara applies the screws: “Conflict” ? As if tout court it were some sort of equal clash.
Yeah, as a true American, out for American values, paid for with all the lives and money in the USA past, and future, and for the world as a whole, I will
always support a son or daughter volunteering in the IDF.
Sample questions or shout-outs to Bronner at the Santa Barbara event for audience members to the spectacle:
1. Hey Bronner, why didn’t your son join the U.S. Army?
2. Why don’t you book a flight to Tel Aviv, renounce your U.S. citizenship and move to your favored country permanently?
3. If journalistic ethics plays any role at all in your line of work, how can you publish another word on the ME conflict while your son wears an IDF uniform?
4. When do you plan to resign your position as the main voice for the New York Times on ME issues?
5. Do you consider yourself a propaganda tool for israel?
I would have two questions.
After asking him to explain to the audience what “hasbara” means, I would ask where his reporting and that of the New York Times fits in to the hasbara effort.
The second question would be that having observed that it is more than common that many American Jews emigrate to Israel in order to act out white racist fantasies against Palestinian Arabs, I would ask what kind of upbringing did his son have that would impel cause him to act on such fantasies by joining the IDF.
I am curious what the questions of others might be. Please share.
“Bronner noted the almost surgical nature of the Gaza conflict in comparison to others. “The damage is not that extensive, but it’s difficult to report that and put things into proportion when there’s such a heated focus on the place.”
Amazing
…when there’s such a heated focus on the place
It seems like Bronner lives in a world similar to the one described in the movie The Invention of Lying. Does he really think readers are THAT gullible?